Is the Holocaust just a Fraud?
Fritz Wuehler
order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: �The death rate in the
concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
book, The Final Solution.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
away from production to waste. Isn�t this holocaust claim incredible
just from this consideration alone?
Kenneth McVay OBC
Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: �The death rate in the
>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>book, The Final Solution.
1941, eh? What do you feel is the significance of the date? Does
this mean that you accept Reitlinger as a credible source?
>Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
>away from production to waste. Isn�t this holocaust claim incredible
>just from this consideration alone?
Actually, since the record establishes - beyond even a shred of
doubt - that the Nazis *did* shift vital resources away from war
in order to facilitate the murder of 12 million or more innocent
victims, your question is moot.
Thanks for playing, though.
--
"this mite hold with the uneducated fools but any man
with brains will see it full of holes" ("Irving Supporter,"
a Leading Revisionist Scholar)
http://www.nizkor.org
george
Why are nazis so stupid?
The evidence presented at Nuremberg was sufficient to convict the
architects of the Holocaust in a court of law.
A nazi quoting a nazi author apologist just doesn't cut it.
jos boersema
On 2009-11-22, Kenneth McVay OBC <kmc...@oldshell.vex.net> wrote:
> In article <d43a0ed922df6ffd...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
> Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>>Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>>order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: �The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>>book, The Final Solution.
>
> 1941, eh? What do you feel is the significance of the date? Does
> this mean that you accept Reitlinger as a credible source?
>
>>Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>>the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>>material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
>>away from production to waste. Isn�t this holocaust claim incredible
>>just from this consideration alone?
>
> Actually, since the record establishes - beyond even a shred of
> doubt - that the Nazis *did* shift vital resources away from war
> in order to facilitate the murder of 12 million or more innocent
> victims, your question is moot.
>
> Thanks for playing, though.
What is really going on has nothing to do with whether the holocaust
did or didn't happen. Yes of course it did happen, that entire issue
is however besides the point. The point is that jews keep to the Torah
law, so that they can show The Nations (not a derogatory title, at all,
imho), so they can show the nations how to resolve the economic
question. No free trade in business credit, free trade in labor, in
services and in products and with an outlook for "fair prices" (fair
trade) *not* with an outlook to be come rich from scoring profitable
deals. Then: to distribute the soil. Also to allow free business
initiative. Yes, that's what it's all about !
The nations did in fact honor the ideals of democracy already. Though
the democracy can still be polished up further, and indeed the Torah
economy can be polished up some more as well (adding the power of
taxed fed funds for the common good in particular, and pairing that
to the democratic state; which is a powerful combination against
ills in the economy, while providing liquidity for business upstarts
without the dangers of for profit investment (which is most profitable
where labor is squeezed out of most wages as possible).)
That's what it is all about: humanity needs to do a proper economy,
a model that will be much tougher for criminals to take control over.
That will spread work and wealth in a good and stable way. The Torah
has that model, albeit in a simple form. Nothing wrong with it at all.
But, the jews don't want to do it. And the nations haven't yet
discovered why we need that kind of economy, and Israel in fact has
neither. But if Israel merely did it, kept to the Torah, the nations
would notice. The nations would not normally notice, but at the point
of crisis they would. I have already read that people from the nations
have asked rabbis how the Torah does economics !
STRATEGIC ALERT !!!!!!!
That's what it's all about ! That point, where the nations come around
during an economic crisis and ask a jew, can be any jew: hey dudes,
how do you do these kinds of things, seems we got a little stuck here.
It's not about having the nations recite psalms all day, it's of course
neither about spreading some insane idea of jewish control. It is about
the people all over the world having to suffer less at the hands of
their own home grown criminals (bankers, landed nobility, business
tyrants). Then the nations, ideally, see that and the jew shows how
it's done - not even comprehending it himself/herself probably - and
the nations then start to experiment and may very well find out the
real reasons for it. And that in turn would liberate Israel, as they
finally find out the why, why they're doing it. This then leads to
even more powerful versions of the Torah economy, which are easy enough
to dream up. Israel would liberate the nations (the how) and then the
nations would liberate Israel (the why). And then both go hand in hand
to make it even better.
That's the idea and it can most assuredly work. It would have worked
already if the jews had done the Torah. But ... they do not. And that
frankly leaves only one avenue of solution: finding out through logic
directly, then trying and finding it works. There are 2 ways for that:
inspired from the Torah directly, or using clear headed thinking. Much
to the shame of some perhaps, there have been scholars in Holland I
heard, who did analyze the Torah economy, and did show that it would
work properly, and did proposed that to our politicians here. But they
did not do it, which imho is a tremendous shame because it could have
saved the whole planet ! Much credit goes to those scientists, but
sadly, it didn't work. Then of course there's the non-Torah assisted
(or unknown assisted) method, which I guess i'm having on my site.
Which still requires people to agree, which seems to be some kind of
big step.
Anyway, then there's that last method: attempt to somehow pressure
Israel in performing its obligation to the Torah.
But what does Israel do: they break all commandments and head for
the holy land, without doing the law. Needless to say they make a big
chaos there, because they have no propor economy.
How did these zionists excuse themselves for their actions: holocaust.
Constantly they bring out the holocaut card, until the whole world is
sick and tired of these zionists sucking some more blood from the
holocaust victims for political purposes. Yes you did that Israel,
you did that. Constantly trying to play the victim to excuse yourselve
for all that you did in the holy land. You where to be considdered an
untouchable people that could commit any crime "because of the
holocaust." You played that card for all it was worth.
And that caused a resentment. And you still didn't do the Torah, so
there was still this chance you would after being pressured. Right ?
Like a small child, getting spanked and then learning how to behave.
Then if you would behave, the nations could see economics, and then
all could be won. The world could be saved from heading down to its
doom. Do note how that doom is a deadly thing, not different from
a holocaust, presumably bigger and worse. This always is forgotten,
that the world is on a track to doom anyway. Isn't it ? Sure it is.
Okay then, the clue: the holocaust card was going to be taken away
from Israel, and that happened through holocaust-denail.
Israel, you caused that holocaust denial, by denying to do the Torah
and to abuse the holocaust for an excuse for the bad things you did
and do in the holy land. The thinking is very simple: you claim you
can do everything and commit every crime conceivable "because of
the holocaust" ? Well then, "the holocaust didn't happen," game over.
What you're left with is what you're supposed to do: do the Torah.
That's what this holocaust yes/no is all about. It's not about the
holocaust, it is about pressuring Israel to do the Torah, because
it seems to be the only way to prevent certain doom for all, including
Israel itself.
This is at least how I understand it, and it seems to make some sense.
Notice how it line up with the Torah, where the nations are used to
beat Israel to a pulp, until the confroms back to the Torah, and all
that in the interest of everyone too. Why do the nations bother so much
with Israel, objectively it makes no sense whatsoever. But deep down:
there is the solution that everyone needs, in the Torah law. Israel
doesn't even comprehend that, their own laws, who are the nations then
to comprehend it for them. Who is for example now understanding my site,
which has all that stuff in plain English, and still it's not
understood. For some reason it will have to be done and it will have
to be SHOWN. Monkey see, monkey do. That's what may work. Preferably
on a national scale, or who else would take it serious.
Want the shortcut, pass all the misery that might be lined up now ?
Do the Torah, or indeed do my model (see site), see how that goes.
I'm confident it will work, and all kinds of adjustments can always
be made. Many forms of merging of familiar law systems are possible,
because it's merely a scientific way to design an economy.
http://www.jhwh.be/post/002/merged/usa-BillOfRights-merged-constitution-.txt
http://www.jhwh.be/post/002/merged/france-declaration_des_droits-merged-constitution-.txt
It is truly amazing to me that nobody seems to understand these
obvious things ... What is difficult about all this ?! Why the
obstinacy ?! You think I make that all up any way I want to ?
Of course not, I'd have to make that all conform to how it is.
Can't make up a new mathematics, it has to WORK. There is only
one answer to 1 + 5 and that's 6, 8 / 4 = 2. Only one way it
works. It's not making things up, it's making them be correct.
Which doesn't preclude there being /mistakes/, in fact I did make
some mistakes and that's not hidden either. But on the whole I think
it will be ok, it'll have so few mistakes that we can correct that,
i think.
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hoser1605
Nah Fritz
Kenneth McVay OBC
Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
>Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>wrote:
> during the actual war, they WERE counting on slave
> labor. Had the axis won however ... they would have
> been locked inside the camps without food or water
> until nature took its course. Then bulldozers would
> have buried the evidence ....
There was continuing conflict between those who wanted
to keep Jews alive for their labour, and those who wanted them
destroyed regardless. In the end, the numbers tell us the
destroyers carried the argument.
> That said, there ARE signs that the holocaust gets
> "over-sold" sometimes. Deliberate genocide gets
> mixed-in with slave-labor deaths and there seems
> an absolute mania to protect that "six million"
> count - as if 5.5 million wouldn't be evil enough.
Given Fleming's long-standing estimate of 4,975,477
Jewish victims, I'd say you're mistaken.
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influence on governments. Not believing it would be anti emetic."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
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NefeshBarYohai
What is incredible is how stupid you are. I hope the police shot you.
ZuLu
> In article <d43a0ed922df6ffd...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
> Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>> book, The Final Solution.
>
> 1941, eh? What do you feel is the significance of the date? Does
> this mean that you accept Reitlinger as a credible source?
Exposing your bad faith, Kiny?
REPORT BY POHL TO HIMMLER, 30 SEPTEMBER 1943, ON DEATHS IN THE CONCENTRATION
CAMPS, AND HIMMLER'S ANSWER, 8 OCTOBER 1943
Berlin, 30 September 1943
Secret
Reich Leader
Although in the month of December the mortality rate was still approximately
10 percent, in January 1943 it fell to 8 percent and continued to fall.
This reduction in the mortality rate is due primarily to the fact that the
hygienic measures which have long been demanded have now been carried out, at
least to a larger extent. Furthermore, it has been ordered in the field of
nutrition that one-third of the food, raw and properly chopped, be added shortly
before distribu- [.tion]
[distribu.] tion, to the cooked food. Cooking too long has been avoided.
Supplementary rations of sauerkraut and similar foods have been issued. In
regard to clothing, it has been ordered that the prisoners may keep their coats
on in the winter, insofar as their work permits. Unnecessary prolongation of
roll calls has also been avoided. Permitting prisoners to receive food shipments
individually has had a favorable effect.
The experiments with the distribution of yeast preparation were also
favorable.
The above measures were aided by the fact that selected prisoners were
incorporated in a special cooking course in the training kitchen at Dachau. It
is intended to conduct a new cooking course inmthe near future.
Two tables [charts] are enclosed.
1. Comparison of deaths in the second half of 1942 with the first half of
1943 - this comparisonshows that the over-all average of the second half of 1942
was 9.89 percent while the over-all average of the first half of 1943 was only
5.72 percent.
2. Deaths in the month of August 1943 - since January 1943 the death rate
has fallen steadily, so that in the month of August it was only 2.09 percent.
A graph is also enclosed, illustrating the figures for the Sachsenhausen
concentration camp extremely well. Sachsenhausen contains 26,500 people, 194
cases of death or 0.73 percent. Similar graphs could be obtained for all the camps.
Although when bad weather begins, an increase in the death rate must be
expected, it is nevertheless certain that it will no longer exceed five or six
percent.
In Stutthof also, the death rate for the month of August 1943 fell to 3.45
percent while in the previous month it was still 5.69 percent. Only in the
Lublin concentration camp did the percentage figures rise again to two or three
percent. It is to be expected that when the planned hygienic measures are
carried out the mortality figures here will also no longer differ from those
elsewhere.
Heil Hitler
[Signed] POHL
SS Obergruppenfuehrer
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0379.htm
----> Himmler answer
Field Command Post, 8 October 1943
[Stamp]
Personal Staff of Reich Leader SS
Document administration
No. Secret 64
The Reich Leader SS
Journal No. 38/133/43g
RF/Bn
Subject: Deaths in concentration camps.
Reference: Your letter of 30 September 1943 -
Ch. /Po/Ha-VS No. 933/43
SECRET
Dear Pohl:
I received your report of 30 September 1943-- concerning death in concentration
camps and can only more express to you and Your co-workers my thanks and my
gratitude for the result achieved. I am convinced that the latest difficulties
will also decrease to the extent when sewerage and better sanitary installations
are possible.
Heil Hitler!
Your
[Signed] H. H.
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0381.htm
...
Enclosure II
Death cases for the month of August 1943
Over-all average for August 1943..........2.09
Over-all average for July 1943............2.23
...............................[Decrease]-0.14
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0382.htm
To be noted that SS did make ANY DIFFERENCE on their lists and statistics between
Auschwitz and other camps considered nowadays as "concentration" or "labor" camps.
Auschwitz had ANY specific installation which could make it different also from other
main camps of the list.
____
To the
Reich Leader SS
Berlin SW 11
Prinz Albrechtstr. 8
Subject: Security measures in Auschwitz.
Reference: Your letter of 24 March 44 Diary
No. 38/32/44 secret Bra/H.
Enclosures: 2 plans*
Reich Leader!
The extent and the high number of inmates of the Auschwitz concentration camp induced
me already last October to suggest a three way division of the camp. After your
approval, it has been carried out as of 10 November 1943. Therefore there are now 3
concentration camps in Auschwitz.
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0384.htm
Observe if that kind of documents could reflect the activity of an "extermination
camp" as we are told Auschwitz was.
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0385.htm
http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0386.htm
ZuLu
> On Nov 23, 7:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
> <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>> book, The Final Solution.
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
>> just from this consideration alone?
>
> Why are nazis so stupid?
> The evidence presented at Nuremberg was sufficient to convict the
> architects of the Holocaust in a court of law.
> A nazi quoting a nazi author apologist just doesn't cut it.
Evidences of what, georgy?
Which ones do you prefer?
Evidences exhibited by Russians of "steam chambers", "electrical floors" as murder ways?
Evidences of human soap factories?
Evidences of human skin lampshades workshops?
All those "evidences" were presented at Nuremberg.
Now, respecting the material evidences about "massive gassings" we are still waiting
for...
Why didn't they made some real forensic examination of the supposed "weapons of
crime" at that time to find some real evidence about gassings?
Joe Bruno
Malakh
"ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
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> george escribi�:
>> On Nov 23, 7:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
>> <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>>> book, The Final Solution.
>>>
>>> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>>> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>>> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
>>> just from this consideration alone?
>>
>> Why are nazis so stupid?
>> The evidence presented at Nuremberg was sufficient to convict the
>> architects of the Holocaust in a court of law.
>> A nazi quoting a nazi author apologist just doesn't cut it.
>
> Evidences of what, georgy?
>
> Which ones do you prefer?
>
> Evidences exhibited by Russians of "steam chambers", "electrical floors"
> as murder ways?
>
> Evidences of human soap factories?
>
> Evidences of human skin lampshades workshops?
>
> All those "evidences" were presented at Nuremberg.
>
> Now, respecting the material evidences about "massive gassings" we are
> still waiting for...
>
> Why didn't they made some real forensic examination of the supposed
> "weapons of crime" at that time to find some real evidence about gassings?
The charter for the Nuremberg so-called trials, makes mention that the
normal rules of evidence do not apply.
Kenneth McVay OBC
And yet, for the most part, they did. No one was charged with
using "steam chambers" o;r "electrical floors," for instance.
Funny, that.
Soap from human remains, however, was introduced and accepted as
evidence (and proven forensically in later years), and human skin
artifacts can be seen to this day in Arlington, at the US
National archives.
Funny that Holocaust deniers never mention that. Why do you
suppose that is?
SOAP MADE FROM HUMAN REMAINS
7.10.2006. 10:52:34
The Nazis used human fat to make soap during the Second World War
in a medical academy located in what is now the Polish Baltic
sea port city of Gdansk, Polish war crimes prosecutors confirmed
today.
Officials with Poland's Institute for National Remembrance (IPN)
based their findings on a laboratory analysis of a piece of soap
found in 1945 in the medical academy which was run by German
Professor Rudolf Spanner.
A new laboratory analysis of the soap revealed human fat was one
of its components, spokesperson for IPN Paulina Szumera told Deutsche
Presse-Agentur in a telephone interview.
Human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been
brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and the Stutthof Nazi German
concentration camp located about 30 km from Gdansk.
The IPN investigation found that the soap in question was used to
clean operating and autopsy rooms.
The piece of soap was used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremburg
Trials where prominent German Nazis were prosecuted for crimes against
humanity.
At the time, prosecutors lacked the technology to determine
whether the soap contained human tissue.
= 30 =
http://www.ejpress.org/article/11052
Polish study confirms Nazis made soap from human bodies
Updated: 09/Oct/2006 22:14
WARSAW (AFP)--- Poland's Nazi German occupiers used "substances" from the bodies of
concentration camp prisoners to make soap, a study carried out by Poland's National
Remembrance Institute (IPN) to counter the arguments of negationists showed Friday.
"We have determined that, without the shadow of a doubt, soap was produced using
substances obtained from human bodies at the anatomical insitute of the Medical Academy
of Danzig, led by Professor Rudolf Spanner," Paulina Szumera of the IPN told AFP.
Danzig is the German name for the Polish city of Gdansk.
"We launched our investigation to still the voices denying that this ever happened," she
said.
For the IPN probe, Polish scientists studied a bar of soap that was presented as
evidence during the Nuremberg Nazi war crime trials after World War II, that was in the
archives of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Szumera said.
Polish television station TVN24 cited IPN investigators as saying the bodies of
prisoners at the Nazi concentration camp of Stutthof, in northern Poland, and at Gdansk
municipal jail were used to make the soap.
The bodies of patients at a psychiatric hospital in Gdansk were also used, the
investigators told TVN24.
Several dozen kilogrammes of soap were produced by the Nazis in Gdansk and used to clean
Spanner's laboratory work surfaces, the IPN said.
Almond extract was added to the soap to give it a palatable scent.
Soaps are usually made from fats and oils that react with lye (sodium hydroxide).
Human touch in Nazi soap
Published: Saturday, 7 October, 2006, 10:00 AM Doha Time
WARSAW: Poland?s Nazi German occupiers used ?substances? from the bodies of concentration
camp prisoners to make soap, a study carried out by Poland?s National Remembrance
Institute (IPN) to counter the arguments of negationists showed yesterday.
?We have determined that, without the shadow of a doubt, soap was produced using
substances obtained from human bodies at the anatomical institute of the Medical Academy
of Danzig, led by Professor Rudolf Spanner,? Paulina Szumera of the IPN told AFP.
Danzig is the German name for the Polish city of Gdansk.
?We launched our investigation to still the voices denying that this happened,? she said.
For the IPN probe, Polish scientists studied a bar of soap that was presented as evidence
during the Nuremberg Nazi war crime trials after World War II, that was in the archives
of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Szumera said.
Polish television station TVN24 cited IPN investigators as saying that the bodies of
prisoners at the Nazi concentration camp of Stutthof, in northern Poland, and at Gdansk
municipal jail were used to make the soap.
Several dozen kilogrammes of soap were produced by the Nazis in Gdansk and used to clean
Spanner?s laboratory work surfaces, the IPN said.
Almond extract was added to the soap to give it a palatable scent.
Soaps are usually made from fats and oils that react with lye (sodium hydroxide). ? AFP
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> In article <hfc642$11h$1...@aioe.org>, Malakh <Mal...@home.net> wrote:
>> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b18...@news.x-privat.org...
>>>> On Nov 23, 7:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
>>>> <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>>>>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>>>>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>>>>> book, The Final Solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>>>>> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>>>>> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
<quote zulu>
THE *RJF* SOAP'S HOAX
I previously explained why "human soap" can be found eventually at every
laboratory working with human bones and skeletons' cleansing by mean of caustic soda.
Oil or fat reacts with an alkali (it can be lye - caustic soda/sodium hydroxide
or potassium hydroxide) to form glycerin plus soap. That reaction is much older
than the Roman empire.
<< The Ebers papyrus (Egypt, 1550 BC) indicates that ancient Egyptians bathed
regularly and combined animal and vegetable oils with alkaline salts to create a
soap-like substance. Egyptian documents mention that a soap-like substance was
used in the preparation of wool for weaving.
.../
Historically, soap was made by mixing animal fats with lye. Because of the
caustic lye, this was a dangerous procedure (perhaps more dangerous than any
present-day home activities) which could result in serious chemical burns or
even blindness. Before commercially-produced lye (sodium hydroxide) was
commonplace, potash, potassium hydroxide, was produced at home for soap making
from the ashes of a hardwood fire.>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#History
The "RJF soap" hoax, starting like a mere joke at the camps by using the letters
'RIF' from a German manufacturer label[*], came at light to the world when, at
Nuremberg Trial, Russian prosecution used a "finding" at a Medical Center in
Danzig to accuse the nazis of having "made attempts to start a commercialization" by
preparing in mass such "soap" which was actually a mere residue of a white cleansing
operation. That Medical Center was in fact preparing skeletons and bones to
educational purpose as part of its activity.
To charge nazis with that hoax was not a hard job to the Russians who had worked
hard to charge Katyn on them. It was only a little part of the accusation together
with the attempts of semi-industrialization of "tanned human skin".
<quote IMT Proceedings>
"Beside this I now submit to the Tribunal the samples of semi-tanned human skin
(Exhibit I]SSR-394). The samples which I now submit prove that the process of
manufacturing soap was already completely worked out by the Institute of Danzig; as
to the skin it still looks like a semi-finished product. The skin which resembles
most the leather used in manufacture is the one you see on top at the left. So one
can consider that the experiments on the industrial fabrication of soap from human
fats were quite completed in the Danzig Institute. Experiments on tanning of human
skin were still incomplete and only the victorious advance of the Red Army put an end
to this new crime of the Nazis."
</quote IMT Proceedings>
Tuesday, 19 February 1946
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/02-19-46.htm
That kind of "human soap" can be found even nowadays at every laboratory which
prepares skeletons or bones with caustic soda or other alkali to its use for
medical education purpose. The "soap" is merely a residue of the white cleansing
operation coming from the reaction of caustic soda with the fat contained in
remains of flesh attached to the bones.
To pretend that nazis made "special experiments" with human bodies at Danzig
Medical Center in order to study a "commercialization of human soap" is proper
to make every chemist laugh at loud.
[*] RIF was a label on a soap which meant "Reichstelle f�r Industrielle
Fettversorgung" (National Center for Industrial Fat Supply)
and at the camps a morbid joke was spreaded by twisting the letters "RJF, Rein
J�disches Fett" (Pure Jewish fat).
</quote zulu>
However there were good stories about that soap manufacture
One of the best stories of Wiesenthal the liar:
THE GIGANTIC JEWS' FAT *R.I.F* SOAP FACTORY
According with Wiesenthal, that BIG FACTORY was in Belzec.
Not less than 900,000 of JEWS were used as RAW MATERIAL from April 1942 up to May 1943.
I guess that to process such quantity of people, it must have been a
GIANT SOAP'S FACTORY.
"The last week of March (1946), the Rumanian press announced an
extraordinary news: in the small Rumanian city of Falticeni, have
solemnly been buried at the Jewish cemetery, during a burial's ceremony
in conformity with the rules, twenty cases of soap [... ] the cases
carried the mark RIF - "Rein j�disches Fett" [...] It is at the end of
1942 that was pronounced for the first time the horrible expression
"soap's transportation!"
It was in the General Government and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. Nine hundred thousands of Jews were used as raw material in this
factory from April 1942 up to May 1943 [... ] perhaps the cultural world
cannot conceive the pleasure with which the Nazis and their wives
contemplated this soap in the General Government. They saw in each piece
of soap a Jew that one had made there disappear by enchantment and that
one had thus prevented from raising a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein
[... ] the burial of the soap in a small Rumanian city has something of
supernatural. The bewitched pain which lays in this small object of
daily use breaks the heart already petrified of the XXe century's man.
At the atomic era, the return in the dark medieval kitchen of the
witches makes the effect of a spectrum! And yet it is the truth!"
(Simon Wiesenthal, Der neue Weg, Vienne, n� 17/18, 1946)
http://www.revisionists.com/photos/jewish_soap_article2.jpg
http://www.revisionists.com/photos/jewish_soap_article3.jpg
http://www.revisionists.com/photos/jewish_soap_article1.jpg
Keep on trying, kiny, you are paid for it.
I'll Always Be 05/12/09
<4b19...@news.x-privat.org>,
ZuLu <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote:
> Kenneth McVay OBC escribi�:
> > In article <hfc642$11h$1...@aioe.org>, Malakh <Mal...@home.net> wrote:
> >> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4b18...@news.x-privat.org...
> >>> george escribi�:
> >>>> On Nov 23, 7:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
> >>>> <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: �The death rate in the
> >>>>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
> >>>>> book, The Final Solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
> >>>>> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
> >>>>> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
> >>>>> away from production to waste. Isn�t this holocaust claim incredible
Can you provide proof that the "human
soap" being discussed was the result of
cleaning human bones and skeletons?
> [*] RIF was a label on a soap which meant "Reichstelle f�r Industrielle
> Fettversorgung" (National Center for Industrial Fat Supply)
> and at the camps a morbid joke was spreaded by twisting the letters "RJF,
> Rein
> J�disches Fett" (Pure Jewish fat).
>
>
> </quote zulu>
>
> However there were good stories about that soap manufacture
>
> One of the best stories of Wiesenthal the liar:
>
> THE GIGANTIC JEWS' FAT *R.I.F* SOAP FACTORY
>
> According with Wiesenthal, that BIG FACTORY was in Belzec.
> Not less than 900,000 of JEWS were used as RAW MATERIAL from April 1942 up to
> May 1943.
> I guess that to process such quantity of people, it must have been a
> GIANT SOAP'S FACTORY.
>
> "The last week of March (1946), the Rumanian press announced an
> extraordinary news: in the small Rumanian city of Falticeni, have
> solemnly been buried at the Jewish cemetery, during a burial's ceremony
> in conformity with the rules, twenty cases of soap [... ] the cases
> carried the mark RIF - "Rein j�disches Fett" [...] It is at the end of
> 1942 that was pronounced for the first time the horrible expression
> "soap's transportation!"
> It was in the General Government and the factory was in Galicia, in
> Belzec. Nine hundred thousands of Jews were used as raw material in this
> factory from April 1942 up to May 1943 [... ] perhaps the cultural world
> cannot conceive the pleasure with which the Nazis and their wives
> contemplated this soap in the General Government. They saw in each piece
> of soap a Jew that one had made there disappear by enchantment and that
> one had thus prevented from raising a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein
> [... ] the burial of the soap in a small Rumanian city has something of
> supernatural. The bewitched pain which lays in this small object of
> daily use breaks the heart already petrified of the XXe century's man.
> At the atomic era, the return in the dark medieval kitchen of the
> witches makes the effect of a spectrum! And yet it is the truth!"
>
> (Simon Wiesenthal, Der neue Weg, Vienne, n� 17/18, 1946)
Kenneth McVay OBC
I'll Always Be 05/12/09 <aussie...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
[denier claptrap flushed down the zulu]
>> THE *RJF* SOAP'S HOAX
Oopsie! There is no connection between your imaginary "RJF Soap"
and the forensics carried out on the soap samples from Stuthof.
Why did you change the subject, zulie?
= 30 =
http://www.ejpress.org/article/11052
Joe Bruno
Major Evidence of the Holocaust
> Nizkor Websitehttp://www.nizkor.org/
> Testimony of Auschwitz Commandant Hoesshttp://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/hoesstest....
> Statement by the American Historical Association:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6bc3bf4f1df8fc08
> The Avalon Project-Transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials
> None of the defendants ever denied the exterminationshttp://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/imt.htm#proc
> Where Does the Six Million Number Come Fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/73663db2f3555bfe
> NOTE: The 4 million number for Auschwitz was a estimate, based on
> faulty assumptions, compiled by Soviet forensic scientists in a hurry
> for Stalin. It is not included in the six million computation.
> The Holocaust History Projecthttp://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> The Postwar SS escape Attempts:Behavioral Evidence of Guilt
> It was notable that none of the German Soldiers, Sailors or Airman
> Tried to Escape
> The secret organization ODESSA who helped only SS men escape Justice;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cb5bcd0558fd5ebd
> Holocaust Denial on Trial at Emory University:http://www.hdot.org/
> Adolf Eichmann in His Own Words:He never denied the exterminations.
> His sole defense was
> that he was just following Orders:http://remember.org/eichmann/ownwords.htm
> Dr Hoettl Speakshttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f701f5aa3ff24bf5?d...
> The Einsatzgruppenhttp://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/einsatzgruppen.html
> Gas Chamber Linkshttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2306745faea77d78
> Diary entry of Goebbels-The Fuhrer says the Jews must be annihilated:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2ef0cf9e3a71db4b
Hitler's Promise- To Annihilate The Jews
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/browse_thread/thread/f...
Jewdas
> On Nov 22, 10:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
> <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
>> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
>> book, The Final Solution.
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
>> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
>> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
He apparently failed and now we have to listen to the incessant whining
of you insane inbred Jew assholes. We will have to have a much more
competent Hitler.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/browse_thread/thread/f...
>
>
>
>
Kenneth McVay OBC
Jewdas <Jew...@circumcision.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Hitler's Promise- To Annihilate The Jews
>He apparently failed and now we have to listen to the incessant whining
>of you insane inbred Jew assholes. We will have to have a much more
>competent Hitler.
The only whining I have heard during my 23 years on UseNet has
come from gutter trash racists like you. If you'd just crawl back
into your gutter with the rest of the cowards, UseNet would be a
much more pleasant, quiet place.
170 Statements Illustrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the highest intellectual standards of Holocaust
denial... folks, with intellects like Knoll's to guide them, Holocaust
deniers cannot but achieve monumental failures and continuing
humiliations:
(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for
the first 164 -- (Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)
165. "What Nazi crab look at your own fabrications."
<gSwnm.42278$Db2.2387@edtnps83>, Sept. 3, 2009
166. "I personally think the use this holocaust denial crab
to scare others." <NXRom.42961$Db2.7658@edtnps83>,
Sept. 6, 2009
167. "Intersting what date what posings heading i am courious."
<0igpm.44144$PH1.22994@edtnps82>, Sept. 7, 2009
168. "We are talking about gassings don't we."
<vEgpm.44148$PH1.40649@edtnps82>, Sept. 7, 2009
169. "Only the naive will belive what Wiesenthal says edjucatet
people can think for themselfs."
<vNvqm.43567$Db2.12876@edtnps83>, Sept. 12, 2009
170. "People who wend to university should have a higher education.
When they come out latter on the are full of arrogance and
not considered normal human being. We say here this fuckers
did have their education in a slime factory and their arrogance
is very apparent visible. " <qG7vm.46534$PH1.45557@edtnps82>,
Sept.25, 2009
--
'I fully accept this, it's a fact. The discussion on Auschwitz, the gas
chambers and the Holocaust is finished ... it's useless to dispute it'.
(David Irving on Holocaust denial, as quoted by his Austrian lawyer)
ZuLu
If not, where did such soap come form?
List the activities performed at the anatomical institute of the
Medical Academy of Danzig, moron.
Do you believe that such "Medical Academy" was the more appropriated place to make
"attempts of commercialization of human soap"?
I'll Always Be 05/12/09
<4b1a...@news.x-privat.org>,
ZuLu <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote:
From the bodies used for the purpose but
not in the lab
> List the activities performed at the anatomical institute of the
> Medical Academy of Danzig, moron.
List the activities performed at the
morgues in the camps
>
> Do you believe that such "Medical Academy" was the more appropriated place to
> make
> "attempts of commercialization of human soap"?
Why would a "medical academy" be the
proper place to produce soap from human
fat on an industrial basis?
I'll Always Be 05/12/09
> Joe Bruno wrote:
> > On Nov 22, 10:28 am, Fritz Wuehler
> > <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> >> Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
> >> order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: �The death rate in the
> >> concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.� - from Reitlinger�s
> >> book, The Final Solution.
> >>
> >> Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
> >> the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
> >> material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
> >> away from production to waste. Isn�t this holocaust claim incredible
Apparently? No wonder you have so many
problems with history
failed and now we have to listen to the
incessant whining
> of you insane inbred Jew assholes. We will have to have a much more
> competent Hitler.
Oxymoron of the day: Competent Hitler
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/browse_thread/thread/f...
> >
> >
> >
> >
coaste...@yahoo.com
> In article <d43a0ed922df6ffdcb4f9a9bb8b6d...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
> Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-200911.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>
> >Heinrich Himmler, Chief Commandant of the Concentration Camps, issued an
> >order, dated Dec. 28, 1942, stating: “The death rate in the
> >concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” - from Reitlinger’s
> >book, The Final Solution.
>
> 1941, eh? What do you feel is the significance of the date? Does
> this mean that you accept Reitlinger as a credible source?
>
> >Ladies and gentlemen, the Germans were fighting a war, and they needed
> >the productive capacity of the inmates of the camps to produce war
> >material. An extermination policy would have shifted vital resources
> >away from production to waste. Isn’t this holocaust claim incredible
> >just from this consideration alone?
>
> Actually, since the record establishes - beyond even a shred of
> doubt - that the Nazis *did* shift vital resources away from war
> in order to facilitate the murder of 12 million or more innocent
> victims, your question is moot.
>
> Thanks for playing, though.
There was also the infamous process of separating those fit to work
for a while from those not, the moment they exiited the boxcars.
ZuLu
Did he actually "annihilate" the jews?
Just a tip:
an⋅ni⋅hi⋅late
–verb (used with object), -lat⋅ed, -lat⋅ing.
1. to reduce to utter ruin or nonexistence; destroy utterly: The heavy bombing
almost annihilated the city.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/annihilate
Were jews reduced to "nonexistence", was any jew left after Hitler?
First news, or maybe some issue with vocabulary. Any progress, what an idiot you are.
I'll Always Be 06/12/09
<4b1bd46c$1...@news.x-privat.org>,
ZuLu <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote:
> I'll Always Be 05/12/09 escribi—:
That he may have failed to reduce the
Jews to non-existence does not in the
least change his intention.
>
> Just a tip:
>
> an·ni·hi·late
>
> –verb (used with object), -lat·ed, -lat·ing.
> 1. to reduce to utter ruin or nonexistence; destroy utterly: The heavy
> bombing
> almost annihilated the city.
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/annihilate
>
> Were jews reduced to "nonexistence", was any jew left after Hitler?
>
> First news, or maybe some issue with vocabulary. Any progress, what an idiot
> you are.
You should talk. You made the assertion
that proper refractory bricks would cost
more, yet you can offer no proof to that
"assumption".