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21.  Magoo  
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 More options Sep 24 2005, 4:11 pm
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From: "Magoo" <mago...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:11:27 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 24 2005 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun

<chuckbeatt...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:1127423395.869003.148990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

  Just a guess...........but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't want
his name now mentioned at all with theirs, due to it no doubt bringing up
the endless spam queen, BS, with his.

  Once again, just shows what utter hypocrites they are. They're like
"Mommy Dearest" when she cut her BF out of all the photos.

  My husband did that, by the way, out of ALL our Wedding picutures......
BEFORE we had decided to get a divorce. And he says I left him?
  HA!

  Tory/Magoo~~Dancing in the Moonlight~~happy to be free :)


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22.  Dilbert Perkins  
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 More options Sep 24 2005, 5:04 pm
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From: Dilbert Perkins <dilbert.perk...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:04:28 GMT
Local: Sat, Sep 24 2005 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun
I thought someone posted a few months back that he left.


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23.  Barbara Schwarz  
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 More options Sep 25 2005, 3:35 pm
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From: "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2005 12:35:10 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 25 2005 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun

Dilbert Perkins wrote:
> I thought someone posted a few months back that he left.

You mean the same person who fabricates all the lies on L. Ron Hubbard
that you constantly post and re-post, Dilberto?

Barbara Schwarz
***********
Tilman Joerg Hausherr from Berlin, Germany (hired by Siemens and
married to Ilse) is an anti-religious harasser, a defamer. He is pro
Eugenics, defends psychiatrists who sexually or otherwise abused
patients, is a German governmental agent and wants to hurt American
tourism.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/whistle/cwletters/cw2.html
Tilman Hausherr posted approx. 24000 aniti-religious hate messages on
Usenet and his thinking is compared to that of Hitler.
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
Tilman Hausherr is cold, cruel, fanatic and unprofessional
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Tilman+Hausherr&btnG...
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/sitemap.htm
***************
About OPC agent Tilman Hausherr and his company Siemens which made and
delivered WMD to Saddam and covered it up:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/7d8f...
***************
Wikipedia founder Jim Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales was the owner/ CEO of porn
search engine Bomis.com. That may also explain why Wikipedia is such a
libel machine in which "contributor" gangs, as the one supporting
Tilman Hausherr or Marty Sharp of Chillicothe, MO 64601 libel good
people.  Sharp lives at home with his dad and stole the ID's of many
people and forged them on his website. Sharp posts with "Anus Simkatu"
(Yuk!) on Usenet and stole the ID "Vivaldi" to spread lies about me on
Wikipedia. Geocities just canceled his criminal website
http://www.geocities.com/martysharpgolf/
*******************
Brian J. Bruns is a convicted computer crime felon. He lied about me
maliciously in his AHBL website. He is the abuser. He tried to bully me
from the web as he dislikes that I have a right of free speech. Despite
Bruns noticed thousands of  malicious spam forgeries posted by Garry
Scarff, he never tried to block his server Earthlink.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/4ee7c26c8...
About Bruns and other NANAE punks:
www.freespeechstore.com
******************


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24.  Analytical Publications  
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 More options Sep 26 2005, 6:22 am
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From: "Analytical Publications" <barbaraschw...@mad.scientist.com>
Date: 26 Sep 2005 03:22:11 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 26 2005 6:22 am
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun
***********
Barbara Bretschneider Schwarz from Berlin, Germany (who spent much of
her
adult life in mental asylums and was Scientology president in Munich
for a few
short months is a mentally deranged, delusional schizophrenic, a
hate-monger,
a convicted criminal, an anti-religious harasser, a defamer. She is pro
Eugenics,
defends psychiatrists who sexually or otherwise abused patients, is a
German
governmental agent and wants to hurt American tourism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html

Barbara Bretschneider Schwarz posted approx. 24000 anti-religious hate
messages on
Usenet and his thinking is compared to that of Hitler.
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbara-schwarz2.htm

Barbara Bretschneider Schwarz is cold, stupid, cruel, fanatic and
unprofessional.
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/barbara_schwarz21.htm

About OPC agent Barbara Schwarz and her imaginary spy agency, SMEGAPUSS
which made and delivered WMD (Weely Minny Dildos) to Saddam and covered
it up.

 ***************
Wikipedia founder Jim Jammy Jolly "Jimbo" Whales was the owner/ CEO of
porn
search engine Schwarz-Sucks-Dick.com. That may also explain why
Wikipedia's
expose of Barbara Schwarz is so popular among readers and a wonderful
facts machine in which "contributor" gangs, as the one supporting
Barbara
Schwarz or Patrick Michael Sullivan of  Nanaimo, BC, Canada libel good
people.  Sullivan, who the lunatic Barbara Schwarz calls her "baby
brother"
spent years locked up in a penitentiary and stole the ID's of many
people
and forged them on the Usenet. Sullivan posts with Baby Bro" (Yuk!)
on Usenet and stole the ID "Kearsley Curse"" to spread  the awful
truth
about Barbara Schwarz on Wikipedia. Geocities has canceled many of her
websites because they were criminal slander and libel.

Brian J. Bruns is a computer technician. He told the truth about
Barbara Schwarz
in his AHBL website and it pisses her off. She is not the mentally
disturbed abuser.
People are tired of Barbara Schwarz trying to bully them from the web
as she hates
that they have a right of free speech. Despite Bruns noticed thousands
of malicious
spam forgeries posted by Barbara Schwarz, he never tried to block her
server UEN.

About the fraudulent website, Freespeechstore, that Barbara Schwarz
likes to reference
in her spamming posts:
http://ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff60400.htm
http://www.interocitor.net/freespeechstore.html
**************


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25.  Barbara Schwarz  
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 More options Sep 25 2005, 3:34 pm
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From: "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara.schw...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2005 12:34:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun

Victoria Lee Christman, trying to alienate me from Marty? I post since
2002 that I am in love with Marty. The RTC website went up AFTER
everybody knew how dear Marty is to me. Marty never wrote to me that I
shall forget about him, only Garry Scarff did under his name, but I was
able to trace the mails to his computer. The site was not taken off
because Marty does not want to have anything to do with me. He just has
to tell me to not more mention him, if that is wished by him, and I
will do so. There is no reason to take a site down.

I never forged Marty as Scarff did. So, if the site is taken down
because of Usenet, then because Scarff took over his identity.

>   Once again, just shows what utter hypocrites they are. They're like
> "Mommy Dearest" when she cut her BF out of all the photos.

You certainly are not "Mummy dearest" as you walked out of not just
your husband, but also your son.

>   My husband did that, by the way, out of ALL our Wedding picutures......
> BEFORE we had decided to get a divorce. And he says I left him?
>   HA!

I doubt that very much. Perhaps one day your son comes forward and
clears the matter up. I think you hurt your husband so badly that he
could not bare to see your face anymore.

>   Tory/Magoo~~Dancing in the Moonlight~~happy to be free :)

Bobody will be never free as long people have case officers who radio
and maipulated them through ear implants.

Anyway, back to Marty:

I am convinced that he is wrongfully incarcerated since a long time and
despite he is the best and able of Scientologist, the RTC website
should have not gone up with Marty's picture portraying him wrongfully
in freedom. It seems that somebody realized that and took the site off.

Barbara Schwarz

***********
Tilman Joerg Hausherr from Berlin, Germany (hired by Siemens and
married to Ilse) is an anti-religious harasser, a defamer. He is pro
Eugenics, defends psychiatrists who sexually or otherwise abused
patients, is a German governmental agent and wants to hurt American
tourism.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/whistle/cwletters/cw2.html
Tilman Hausherr posted approx. 24000 aniti-religious hate messages on
Usenet and his thinking is compared to that of Hitler.
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
Tilman Hausherr is cold, cruel, fanatic and unprofessional
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Tilman+Hausherr&btnG...
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/sitemap.htm
***************
About OPC agent Tilman Hausherr and his company Siemens which made and
delivered WMD to Saddam and covered it up:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/7d8f...
***************
Wikipedia founder Jim Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales was the owner/ CEO of porn
search engine Bomis.com. That may also explain why Wikipedia is such a
libel machine in which "contributor" gangs, as the one supporting
Tilman Hausherr or Marty Sharp of Chillicothe, MO 64601 libel good
people.  Sharp lives at home with his dad and stole the ID's of many
people and forged them on his website. Sharp posts with "Anus Simkatu"
(Yuk!) on Usenet and stole the ID "Vivaldi" to spread lies about me on
Wikipedia. Geocities just canceled his criminal website
http://www.geocities.com/martysharpgolf/
*******************
Brian J. Bruns is a convicted computer crime felon. He lied about me
maliciously in his AHBL website. He is the abuser. He tried to bully me
from the web as he dislikes that I have a right of free speech. Despite
Bruns noticed thousands of  malicious spam forgeries posted by Garry
Scarff, he never tried to block his server Earthlink.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/4ee7c26c8...
About Bruns and other NANAE punks:
www.freespeechstore.com
******************


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26.  Michael Reuss  
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 More options Sep 27 2005, 3:55 am
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From: Michael Reuss <michaelere...@spam.this.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:55:08 -0600
Local: Tues, Sep 27 2005 3:55 am
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun

> "Magoo" <mago...@charter.net> wrote:
>   My husband did that, by the way, out of ALL our Wedding picutures......
> BEFORE we had decided to get a divorce.

I've always wondered about people who, after their marriage has ended in
an unpleasant divorce, decide to keep the wedding pictures, but cut off
the half of the photo containing the ex-spouse.  Or worse yet, who keep
the entire photo, but cut out the outline of the ex.

What does one do with such pictures? Do you keep them in an album and
show them to your friends?

And what would you say to someone you showed them to, anyway?  "Yeah,
"this was me and a few of my best buddies, back in 82, hanging out at
the alter of some church in our rental tuxes.

Then, maybe your friends would say, hey, all the guys got pretty lucky
at that church. You all seem to have picked up chicks dressed in
identical purple taffeta gowns!

Or maybe you keep the pictures just for yourself, so you can look at
them and feel bad. There you are, all alone and lonely. Maybe you like
to look at them just to have a good cry every now and then. I suppose
there's nothing wrong with that, if done in moderation. But if so,
wouldn't you have an even better cry if you left the ex-spouse in?

Or maybe, you did it because... do you have any idea how much money
those things cost? I'll be damned if ever look at that son of a bitch,
again, but by GOD I will not just throw that much money into the garbage
(a dilemma similar to that which many OwE tEE Scientologists face, by
the way)!

Could someone who has done this, explain it to me?

Michael Reuss
Honorary Kid


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27.  barb  
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 More options Sep 27 2005, 9:56 am
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From: barb <bwa...@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:56:51 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 27 2005 9:56 am
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun

Maybe it's like Voodoo...or poking a drawing of a mammoth with a stick.

--
--barb
Chaplain,ARSCC
xenub...@netscape.net

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."
This assistance might involve holding you against your
will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
friends and family, and denying you access to
appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
the release form absolves your caretakers of all
responsibility for your suffering and death.

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

              --Dr. Dave Touretzky
                Peter Alexander


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28.  mad_kow  
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 More options Sep 27 2005, 1:02 pm
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From: "mad_kow" <mad_...@bellsouth.net>
Date: 27 Sep 2005 10:02:03 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 27 2005 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun
Maybe this falls into the category of "what's true for you is true". If
you cut out the offending portion of the picture, it never existed in
the first place.

Mad Kow (Kid!)


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29.  Hartley Patterson  
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 More options Sep 25 2005, 2:53 pm
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From: Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:53:24 +0100
Local: Sun, Sep 25 2005 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun
 chuckbeatt...@aol.com:

> It looks definitely like Marty Rathbun has minimally fallen.  He is no
> longer listed on the Religious Techonology Center web site.

> Anyone with info on him, please share it.

The CoS webmeisters have been deleting him all over the place. I tried
googling on 'mark rathbun', here's the first two pages:

www.rtc.org/mark-rathbun.htm - 404 not found

www.scientology.org/scnnews/rathbun.htm - 404

www.aola.org/ - still there at the Grand Reopening of AOLA. Not an obvious
one, maybe they missed it.

Press Office Profiles: David Miscavige and Others
www.humanrights-germany.org/profile/ - google thinks he's there, but he
isn't!

markrathbun.rtc.org/spn/rathbun.htm - 404

Who is "Marty" Mark Rathbun? The Man, The Myth, The Legend
www.wwwaif.net/scn/scn_marty.php - a biography by Kady. Paging Kady, get
ready to update. :-)

www.humanrights-france.org/profile/ - repeat of germany, not there either!!

www.theta.com/goodman/Profile/ - Leisa has deleted him from her list of
special friends.

The Google Directory entry for 'notable scientologists' links him to
http://markrathbun.rtc.org/ but this just redirects to http://www.rtc.org/

http://www.godserver.com/directory/Religions_Of_The_World/Scientology...
e/index.shtml
has a link to 'Biographies - David Miscavige, Mark Rathbun etc' at
http://www.scientologytoday.org/bio/
same list, but no Marty again. This suggests that not only was he there but
that he was in the Page Title.

http://faq.scientology.org/rtc.htm
Heber's never asked questions. Google quotes from a Marty mention that is
no longer there.

danish.rtc.org/mark-rathbun.htm - 404
norwegian.rtc.org/mark-rathbun.htm - 404

http://www.approvedscientology.org/profiles.htm - no Marty

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/directory/organizations/churches/r...
ty-rathbun/
This is Marty's entry in the online copy of the Handbook. Since every CoS
member has access to a copy, I guess there would be no point in deleting
him here.

The Official Biography was in 13 languages, and they have all been deleted.

Conclusion: he's lost his job. Actually I think that's all we deduce from
the above, as Inspector General of Religious Technology Center was his
official title and all the above deleted pages refer to this so they had to
be changed.

Googling on Warren McShane shows that similar pages to those above have
also gone 404. So he's lost his job too. One top exec gone is interesting,
but two at once is... very interesting.

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30.  Zinj  
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 More options Sep 25 2005, 3:13 pm
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From: Zinj <zinji...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:13:33 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 25 2005 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Marty Rathbun
In article <MPG.1da1027b55fcb74b989...@nntp.lightlink.com>,
hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk says...

<snip>

> Googling on Warren McShane shows that similar pages to those above have
> also gone 404. So he's lost his job too. One top exec gone is interesting,
> but two at once is... very interesting.

It's redundant to say that something Scientology is bizarre, but it's
hard to avoid in this case.

Of any of the possible options, the 'Church' has chosen the 1984ish
'unperson' route; bad juju all around.

But why?

What are the possibilities?

Mark and Warren are fertilizing the chaparral near Gold Base.
Mark and Warren are demoted, and assigned to punitive duties, but
otherwise fine.
Mark and Warren have blown; whether quietly or to become 'enemies'
Or, the least likely; they've been arrested.

Only for options 3 or 4 does the 'unperson' gambit make any sense. In
the others, it would have made far more sense to announce that the
inspector general's office was being 'reorganized', but *thank* Mark and
Warren for their valuable work, which is far less likely to raise
questions than this 'disappear them' game.

But, and again, Scientology doesn't have to make sense, and doing
counter-productive things is in character.

If we begin to see demonization of the two, internally or publicly, we
can pretty much bet on options 3 or 4.

Zinj
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