Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
Patty Pieniadz
2007 New Year's event.
There are 10 pictures on my flickr site. 9 of the pictures show
violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
grenades. The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
New Year's event. In the front row you will also see Tom
and Katie Cruise.
Critics of Scn are welcome to use these photo's to alert
the media and others of the violence and hatred that
the cult promotes toward psychiatry.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/792781179/in/photostream/
Patty P
knok_knok
These photos prove that the CULT openly inciting hatred and violence
towards a particular group of people, (hate crimes) and that it is
recommending the use of explosives in order to achieve its goals.
(terrorist activity)
If Keith Henson was found guilty for the phrase "Tom Cruise
Missile".. DM should be jailed for these legitimate threats of death
and violence.
cultxpt
So why does a hate group get tax exemption?
cultxpt
By the way, has someone alerted the American Psychiatric Association?
I'm sure they'd be interested that a religious organization is
promoting grenades being thrown at psychiatrists.
thorazine shuffle
Much thanks for the post. That's good stuff.
Do you have any of those those in a higher resolution?
Gerry Armstrong
Because a religion can be a hate group. The granter of tax exemption
is the U.S. Federal Government, and it's the same U.S. Federal
Government that says any organization, without any qualification, can
itself, without any qualifier, determine itself to be religious. A
hate group, a commercial enterprise, a scam, an intelligence network,
a totalitarian cult, a criminal conspiracy against people's rights, or
a threat to democracy and to reason, as Scientology proves for all
these categories, can determine to be religious, and with "enough"
people (even headless ones) can constitute a religion.
The Scientology hate group got tax exemption because a strategic
decision was made within the U.S. Federal Government to "create" the
above policy.
Up to a certain date, organizations that were hate groups, commercial
enterprises, scams, intelligence networks, totalitarian cults,
criminal conspiracies, or threats to democracy and to reason were not
granted automatic religion status and automatic tax exemption, but
there was a public examination, significantly in the nation's courts,
but by various federal departments, to determine the organization's
"religiousness" apart from its nature and activities as a hate group,
commercial enterprise, scam, intelligence network, totalitarian cult,
criminal conspiracy or threat.
The U.S. Federal Government then created the International Religious
Freedom Act of 1998, now 22 USC § 6401, et seq., to give its strategic
decision some additional effect and additional channels to create
effects.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00006401----000-.html
It is clear that this strategic decision and the creation of the IRFA
were motivated by, among other factors, Scientology's nature and
activities, and it is clear that the U.S. Federal Government has acted
to protect its decision and protect the nasty, sociopathic cult the
decision favors.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Quaoar
Actually, Pate', there are 70 photos on this flickr site. Notably, you
have posted the photos of the principals of the #altreligionscientology
IRC channel cabal. It is strange that the cabal all *appear* to be adults.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283968/in/photostream/
"The Voice of Truth Award": Rob Clark. WTF? Rob can't put a sentence
together without searching his gutter for words that no intelligent
person would present in an argument. Truth? One wonders if Clark has
age-dependent dementia.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283909/in/photostream/
"The Lone Wolf Award": Deana Holmes. WTF? She can no longer present
anything of value on any venue after her vituperative attacks on one and
all using words she threw into the gutter that Rob Clark picked up for
free. There is no wonder she is now a "lone wolf".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283780/in/photostream/"Admiral
of the Marcab Confederacy": Dave Touretzky.
I always thought that Dr. Dave was an up-front guy until I tuned into
#altreligionscientology and engaged his pre-pubescent antics. "His"
valuable sites must be composed by mature graduate students.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283722/in/photostream/
"The 'Tough as a Clamshell Award'": Clair Swazey. Fluffy needs to be
tough since she is the singular Scientology apologist on every critical
venue. She has defied personal acknowledgment of what even new critics
know as her Scientology HAT.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210222842/in/photostream/
Photo of Henri (Rob Clark). He is French, of course, as a denial of U.S.
citizenship as an effective blow to the current U.S. government. One
wonders what he is to do now that the right-wing Nicolas Sarkozy is in
charge of France? What country and name shall he choose? I suggest
North Korea: Kim Ill Spoken.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/209195299/in/photostream/
Photo of Cody: Guaranteed the only honest person in the party.
Apologies to those not named, but found themselves in the company of
critics with disreputable portfolios.
Q
Patty Pieniadz
Have you lost your fucking mind?
I post pictures from the 2007 New Years event showing
violence toward psychs and all you can do is bitch and whine
about my friends.
Get some help and grow some balls you anon coward.
Patty P
WolfyRik
Well said and thanks for posting the photos. It's disgusting how far
these cult maniacs of the so called "church" of scientology will go.
Now they're actively inciting murder, guess they've moved up from
killing people through policies.
I've noticed a tendency for them to lash out at medical doctors on the
boards here at late, does that mean they will be advocating the murder
of those in the medical profession next?
navy.intern...@gmail.com
This morning I sent an email with these pictures, and the "Code of
Honor" (it reads like a terrorist handbook), to the Dutch Parlement
Commission of Justice, to the National Coordinator Against Terrorism
and, of course, to the Amsterdam Org. I requested to look into it,
because in my opinion it is plain terrorism, promoted by this
organization.
realpch
Thanks Patty. Imagine what the Church would say if someone produced a
piece substituting Scientology for Psychiatry using the same imagery.
Peach
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Emma
"Patty Pieniadz" <ppie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5foobhF...@mid.individual.net...
What she said.
Emma
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http://www.forum.exscn.net
realpch
Oh fer crissakes. Are you back to doing this dumb stuff?
Eldon
Thank you for obtaining these photos and making them available.
This is like a rerun of the Nazi stuff from the 1930s. It boggles the
(hopefully partly sane by now) mind.
You previously apologized for your involvement in Scientology's hate
campaign against Rick Ross and others, and the Narconon scam. I told
you not to bother with guilt trips.
If you think you did any damage to humankind, you have already WAY
more than made up for it. You have graduated to the level of heroine.
Now have a donut, pin on the medal and cutely blush. Thank you, your
needle is floating. ;-)
We are saving lives here. We may never know how many, but we know what
LRH wanted to do to two percent of humanity. And we have at least
limited that.
Jinkii
As a frequent visitor to the IRC channel i do not recognise any of
these descriptions, sour grapes because Henri kicked you out of it no
doubt
Jinkii
Hartley Patterson
> > Get some help and grow some balls you anon coward.
> > Patty P
>
> What she said.
>
> Emma
What they said. People you disagree with are not necessarily your Enemies.
It is part of totalitarian conditioning to persuade people to think this
way, and one of the more difficult distortions to escape from.
Your relative disagrees with you? Disconnect.
Your partner won't do everything you ask? Divorce.
Your workmates invalidate you? KR them.
--
FREEDOM is a trademark owned by
Religious Technology Center
http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/stolgy_0.htm
R. Hill
I say that to make a stronger case, include as much evidence as
possible. To the above, you can add Michael L. Tilse's account of 2003
(the hanging of 'psychs'):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/47bf851842856fbc
And the Evening Standard's article in which the reporter attended a
Scientology event where images of 'psychs' being machine-gunned where shown:
http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/media/articles/es231006.html
Martin Ottman's affidavit contains excellent material that it's more
than mere 'expose' of psychiatry going on at the Church of Scientology
and its fronts. They clearly can be held accountable of preventing
people from getting proper treatment through their hate-filled propaganda:
«I was indoctrinated for four years with the idea that the world in
which we lived was the product of a conspiracy of psychologists and
psychiatrists.»
— former scientologist Martin Ottman, in "Affidavit of Martin Ottmann
(19 April 1996)"
Ask someone to seek proper treatment with a psychologist/psychiatrist
after that four years of brainwashing that "psychiatrists are evil"...
Clearly they are interfering with the medical profession.
Ray.
--
"I started thinking, and I got carried away"
- Dan Garvin, former scientologist
"We simply do as [L. Ron Hubbard] says"
- Dennis Clarke, scientologist
barb
Man, the dwarf is aging badly, and swiftly!
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
barb
1. You don't seem to comprehend Flickr at all.
2. What is your fucking problem? Who the hell are you to be passing
judgment on these people?
Henri is one of the finest writers here, and one whose skill I admire.
Dr. Dave, 'nuff said.
All of these people you publicly dissed have accomplished a lot, from
offering thought-provoking arguments to providing valuable research
tools and content.
Now, I don't want to get into the Durks' mode of "Oh yeah, what have YOU
done?" which is the equivalent of waving peepees on the playground, but
just who the hell do you think you are?
If you had a modicum of the respect I have for these people, I'd be the
first to extoll your accomplishments.
Strangely, I can't think of any. All you seem to do is add your two
cents to every thread. They got bots that can do that. And they're not
anonymous.
Cecil
"barb" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:fPLli.501895$JN6.4...@newsfe17.phx...
> Patty Pieniadz wrote:
>> A spy inside the C of S has forward pictures taken during the
>> 2007 New Year's event.
>>
>> There are 10 pictures on my flickr site. 9 of the pictures show
>> violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
>> grenades. The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
>> New Year's event. In the front row you will also see Tom
>> and Katie Cruise.
>>
>> Critics of Scn are welcome to use these photo's to alert
>> the media and others of the violence and hatred that
>> the cult promotes toward psychiatry.
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/792781179/in/photostream/
>>
>>
>>
>> Patty P
>>
>>
> Outstanding!
> Man, the dwarf is aging badly, and swiftly!
And shriiiiiiiinking!
Man, he looks tiny with a too big and oily slick head for a leader.
I read about the characteristics of a great leader and he doesn't
score one single point
Are these scieno's so completely blind and deaf that they cannot see
and hear a con-man straight from Hubbard's hell?
Right, a high school dropout as well!
WolfyRik
> "barb" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message
MWahahahahaha! You're entirely right, probably about the shrinking
too! ;)
barb
greasy head and dying seabirds would be washing up on the beach from
Malibu to Huntington Beach!
WolfyRik
> Cecil wrote:
> > "barb" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
> insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
> Scientology."
> -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
An eco-disaster of epic proportions. I wonder if the oil-eating
microbes used in oil-spills would work on Davey-boy's head grease......
Eldon
What about Black's Beach? If some paparazzi caught Davie and Tommy
there with a telephoto lens, the pic might be worth a fortune!
Oh, forget I said that.
> --
> Barb
> Chaplain, ARSCChttp://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
R. Hill
Many thanks for these. I actually read accounts about this at OCMB a
while ago, these pictures are welcomed evidence.
http://www.xenu-directory.net/topics/miscavige-vs-psychiatry.html
Quaoar
To both Pate' and Emma: please explain to the world at large how the
degradation of you fellows makes any sense whatsoever?
Of course, it makes perfect sense if your cabal considers itself to be
the intellectual center of Scientology criticism.
What have any of you done recently, openly? BTW, it is clear to me that
your benefactor, Patricia P., was instrumental in "turning" Bob Minton.
Q
Quaoar
Nope. Not until the cabal of which you must be a part decide to abandon
their dumb stuff.
Q
Q
Quaoar
I have the logs that I will forward for your review.
Q
Quaoar
>
> 1. You don't seem to comprehend Flickr at all.
What do I not comprehend about Flickr, other than the fact that Pate'
was in error about how many photos were posted to here site?
> 2. What is your fucking problem? Who the hell are you to be passing
> judgment on these people?
How do YOU justify these people's back-channel shenanigans? Where is the
broom?
>
> Henri is one of the finest writers here, and one whose skill I admire.
> Dr. Dave, 'nuff said.
Rob Clark has a fine mind, but his choice of vituperative response and
presentation is indicative of a very troubled persona. His
presentations would be far better if he removed the personal invective
and gutter words from what he writes. His current presentations are
seriously compromised by his invective.
Dr. Dave is only one of several highly educated and degreed people on
this newsgroup. His C-M sponsored sites are undeniably valuable. His
behavior on his private #altreligionscientology channel is
reprehensible, much like an out-of-control teenager. He should be
reflective of what constitutes his reputation.
>
> All of these people you publicly dissed have accomplished a lot, from
> offering thought-provoking arguments to providing valuable research
> tools and content.
>
> Now, I don't want to get into the Durks' mode of "Oh yeah, what have YOU
> done?" which is the equivalent of waving peepees on the playground, but
> just who the hell do you think you are?
I know who I am. Who the hell are you to even ask? Gotta psychological
or psychiatric degree? Got jack boots? Where is the document that says
that everyone posting on usenet or forums must conform to whatever
standards?
Which arm are we to use for the salute?
>
> If you had a modicum of the respect I have for these people, I'd be the
> first to extoll your accomplishments.
That would be "extol". Your attitude is the very reason, IMO, that so
many posters over the years have left ARS and most other venues of kult
criticism. PS: I have never denied that many of these people have made
extremely valuable contributions; their contributions should be
accompanied by some type of adult behavior.
Post the by-laws of your ARS club and perhaps I can qualify. Otherwise,
have a nice day!
Q
barb
Oh for fuck sake.
Give it a rest, will you? Try not to seem more of a moron than you
actually are; remember, the world is reading this forum.
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
barb
Dude...
the only dumb stuff here is coming from you, in spades.
Cabal? In your fucking moronisphere only. One sign that an idiot is on
the loose is when someone starts seeing connections that aren't
there...as in this case.
Sheesh, man. Sheesh! Nothing, NOTHING is as you assume!
You can take my word for that.There is no cabal. No seekrit society.
No decoder rings. The goats/lime jello thing is a JOKE.
Get it?
barb
Why the hell were you logging, bitch?
Gawd, I'm glad you got booted. I hate loggers.
Emma
I see many similarities between Quaoar & Durks.
None of them flattering.
- Emma
barb
> barb wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. You don't seem to comprehend Flickr at all.
>
> What do I not comprehend about Flickr, other than the fact that Pate'
> was in error about how many photos were posted to here site?
>
>> 2. What is your fucking problem? Who the hell are you to be passing
>> judgment on these people?
>
> How do YOU justify these people's back-channel shenanigans? Where is the
> broom?
>
>>
>> Henri is one of the finest writers here, and one whose skill I admire.
>> Dr. Dave, 'nuff said.
>
> Rob Clark has a fine mind, but his choice of vituperative response and
> presentation is indicative of a very troubled persona. His
> presentations would be far better if he removed the personal invective
> and gutter words from what he writes. His current presentations are
> seriously compromised by his invective.
Are you speaking for the world at large now?
>
> Dr. Dave is only one of several highly educated and degreed people on
> this newsgroup. His C-M sponsored sites are undeniably valuable. His
> behavior on his private #altreligionscientology channel is
> reprehensible, much like an out-of-control teenager. He should be
> reflective of what constitutes his reputation.
You got spanked, and resent it. Patently obvious. Talk about acting like
a sulky teenager, pot, kettle, black! Get over it.
>
>>
>> All of these people you publicly dissed have accomplished a lot, from
>> offering thought-provoking arguments to providing valuable research
>> tools and content.
>>
>> Now, I don't want to get into the Durks' mode of "Oh yeah, what have
>> YOU done?" which is the equivalent of waving peepees on the
>> playground, but just who the hell do you think you are?
>
> I know who I am. Who the hell are you to even ask? Gotta psychological
> or psychiatric degree? Got jack boots? Where is the document that says
> that everyone posting on usenet or forums must conform to whatever
> standards?
Geez, what a snob! You think a piece of paper is of any significance
outside certain circles? Hell, DM never graduated high school.
>
> Which arm are we to use for the salute?
This finger, right here.
>
>>
>> If you had a modicum of the respect I have for these people, I'd be
>> the first to extoll your accomplishments.
>
> That would be "extol". Your attitude is the very reason, IMO, that so
> many posters over the years have left ARS and most other venues of kult
> criticism.
That would be "cult." Now say you spelled it wrong on purpose. :P
PS: I have never denied that many of these people have made
> extremely valuable contributions; their contributions should be
> accompanied by some type of adult behavior.
Extoll, ya think? Wow, is that why it's underlined in red? I like how
you're throwing a fit of pique while simultaneously demanding adult
behavior from others. Like you're some stellar model for us all to
follow, eh?
>
> Post the by-laws of your ARS club and perhaps I can qualify. Otherwise,
> have a nice day!
Check out the definition of "herd of cats." There is no club. If you got
off on the wrong side of people on IRC, it's because you were some kind
of a pompous twit, I would imagine. They're not well-tolerated there.
Pity I wasn't there, I'm sure your filleting was a hoot. Sucks to be
toppled off your self-important pillar, eh?
>
> Q
barb
>
> None of them flattering.
>
> - Emma
>
>
The thought crossed my mind, but didn't want to mention it for fear of
sparking another Durks dorkfest. Plus, there's always the danger that
they will breed...
Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:33:00 -0000, cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 12, 6:51 pm, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> A spy inside the C of S has forward pictures taken during the
> >> 2007 New Year's event.
>
> >> There are 10 pictures on my flickr site. 9 of the pictures show
> >> violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
> >> grenades. The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
> >> New Year's event. In the front row you will also see Tom
> >> and Katie Cruise.
>
> >> Critics of Scn are welcome to use these photo's to alert
> >> the media and others of the violence and hatred that
> >> the cult promotes toward psychiatry.
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/792781179/in/photostream/
>
> >> Patty P
>
>
> Because a religion can be a hate group. The granter of tax exemption
> is the U.S. Federal Government, and it's the same U.S. Federal
> Government that says any organization, without any qualification, can
> itself, without any qualifier, determine itself to be religious. A
> hate group, a commercial enterprise, a scam, an intelligence network,
> a totalitarian cult, a criminal conspiracy against people's rights, or
> a threat to democracy and to reason, as Scientology proves for all
> these categories, can determine to be religious, and with "enough"
> people (even headless ones) can constitute a religion.
>
> The Scientology hate group got tax exemption because a strategic
> decision was made within the U.S. Federal Government to "create" the
> above policy.
>
> Up to a certain date, organizations that were hate groups, commercial
> enterprises, scams, intelligence networks, totalitarian cults,
> criminal conspiracies, or threats to democracy and to reason were not
> granted automatic religion status and automatic tax exemption, but
> there was a public examination, significantly in the nation's courts,
> but by various federal departments, to determine the organization's
> "religiousness" apart from its nature and activities as a hate group,
> commercial enterprise, scam, intelligence network, totalitarian cult,
> criminal conspiracy or threat.
>
> The U.S. Federal Government then created the International Religious
> Freedom Act of 1998, now 22 USC § 6401, et seq., to give its strategic
> decision some additional effect and additional channels to create
> effects.http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00006401--...
>
> It is clear that this strategic decision and the creation of the IRFA
> were motivated by, among other factors, Scientology's nature and
> activities, and it is clear that the U.S. Federal Government has acted
> to protect its decision and protect the nasty, sociopathic cult the
> decision favors.
>
> © Gerry Armstronghttp://www.gerryarmstrong.org
>From my earlier post Aug 26 2006:
Swedish government lables Co$ a undemocratic and antisocial
organisation!
Druginformer Peter Brych wrote a letter to the Government Office of
Sweden , in wich he questioned and warned about Co$ and its frontgroup
Narconons activities. He informed the office that Narconon had
infiltrated other (true non-profit ) anti -drug groups in Sweden and
that Narconon offered lectures about drugaddiction to schools for a
charge of approx. 300$.
Answer from the office of the Swedish Government ( my translation)
qoute:
Best regards Peter,
On behalf of primeminister, Goran Persson I thank You for your e-mails
concerning religious movements and the Church of Scientology in
Sweden.
I have been told to give You an answer.
Your emails have been read and registered in the office diary.
In Sweden we have freedom of religion and free speech. This means that
people has the right to think and believe as well as publish whatever
opinion and belives they have. This also applies to members and
spokespersons from the Church of Scientology in Sweden. In Sweden we
have a right to meet and practise our faith within the boundaries of
contemperary law.
The Government wishes to forward organisations and "churches" that
promotes dialogue,multitude,democracy and equality.A demand on all
organisations and "churches" granted governmental subsidaries (
economic) are therefore that they share the basic values our society
rests upon. The Church of Scientology applied last year (2005) to be
entitled to such governmental grants given to churches and non-profit
organisations.
The Swedish government has after a collected evaluation come to the
conclusion that the Church of Scientology do not meet the demands of
contributing and strenghtening the common basic values our society
rests upon. Their request was therefore denied.
Best regards
Per Karlsson
Political advisor
end qoute.
Peter Brych has been extremely active counteracting Narconon in the
press and espescially in his local
community Härryda outside Gothenburg. He has managed to get Narconon
banned from the local schools as well.
Ulf Brettstam
Senior psychiatrist
Sweden
"This volume probably contains more promises and less evidence per
page
than has any publication since the invention of printing."
- Review of "Dianetics", Scientific American, 1951
Eldon
> On Jul 12, 6:51 pm, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > A spy inside the C of S has forward pictures taken during the
> > 2007 New Year's event.
>
> > There are 10 pictures on my flickr site. 9 of the pictures show
> > violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
> > grenades. The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
> > New Year's event. In the front row you will also see Tom
> > and Katie Cruise.
>
> > Critics of Scn are welcome to use these photo's to alert
> > the media and others of the violence and hatred that
> > the cult promotes toward psychiatry.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/792781179/in/photostream/
>
> > Patty P
>
> I'm sure they'd be interested that a religious organization is
> promoting grenades being thrown at psychiatrists.
BOTH American APAs (psychiatry and psychology) are pretty gutless when
it comes to speaking out about cults, including not only Scientology
and the Moonies, but secular "personal development" offshoots like
Landmark and Avatar. Those also mess up vulnerable people to some
extent as well as milking devotees for big money and volunteer labor.
As I recall, the psychiatric association put out a press release after
Tom Cruise did his berserk rant about Brooke Shields, and a few
individual shrinks spoke out. But it takes something of that magnitude
to shake them out of their torpor.
Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam
I wouldn´t explain my american collegues lack of action against the
cult as them being in a torpor. I believe they, sadly enough, are
rather ignorant of the dangers with the cult of scientology. The cult
are probably, percieved as a marginal group of incurable zelaous
nutheads. Also I do believe my collegues to be hard working with
people in need of psychiatric treatment.
Ulf
realpch
>
> realpch wrote:
> > Quaoar wrote:
> > Oh fer crissakes. Are you back to doing this dumb stuff?
> >
> > Peach
>
> Nope. Not until the cabal of which you must be a part decide to abandon
> their dumb stuff.
>
> Q
>
> Q
Get a grip. Get two!
Peach
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Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com
Eldon
Not all are as individuals, but the professional associations do very
little either to educate their members or to inform the public. There
are some individual psychiatrists and psychotherapists who speak out
on their own.
Unfortunately the two biggies in that area, Jolyon West and Margaret
Singer, are no longer with us.
Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam
That is true and sad.
Ulf
Patty Pieniadz
"Quaoar" <qua...@marcabfleet.com> wrote in message
news:RNednf1j__Up7gTb...@comcast.com...
BTW, it is clear to me that
> your benefactor, Patricia P., was instrumental in "turning" Bob
> Minton.
Really? I'd love to read your thesis on this.
Patty P
Patty Pieniadz
The logs will show that you came to irc and started
insulting the people there with your insane accusations.
You were treated with disrespect because you were
disrespectful and offensive from the start.
Your sole purpose was to disrupt the channel and for
that you were told to fuck off and then kicked out.
Your plan from the beginning was to have this happen
so you could use this as "evidence".
You're a conspiracy nut and a pompous and arrogant one
at that. You enjoy looking down your nose at me and others
and when we don't properly acknowledge your genius you
invent a conspiracy to explain it away.
Get some help.
Patty P
Patty Pieniadz
> Sheesh, man. Sheesh! Nothing, NOTHING is as you assume!
> You can take my word for that.There is no cabal. No seekrit society.
> No decoder rings. The goats/lime jello thing is a JOKE.
> Get it?
The seekrit handshake too? Damn what the hell am I gonna
do with all this lime jello!
Patty P
Patty Pieniadz
> barb wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. You don't seem to comprehend Flickr at all.
>
> What do I not comprehend about Flickr, other than the fact that Pate'
> was in error about how many photos were posted to here site?
You big dope. There's a bunch of pictures on the Flickr site. It's
a site for putting up pictures. 10 of them were about the 2007 New
Years event.
What's so hard to understand about that.
>
>> 2. What is your fucking problem? Who the hell are you to be passing
>> judgment on these people?
>
> How do YOU justify these people's back-channel shenanigans? Where is
> the broom?
Back-channel shenanigans? IRC is a place where people meet and talk.
The fact that your social skills are so completely lacking, does not
mean
that the channel is a secret cabal.
People come and go on that channel all the time. Only the ones that
come there to disrupt the peace of the channel are kicked out.
You arrived with a big chip on your shoulder and dared everyone to
knock it off. You got your ass handed to you and were shown the door.
Get some help.
Patty P
>
>>
Patty Pieniadz
>>
>> Dr. Dave is only one of several highly educated and degreed people on
>> this newsgroup. His C-M sponsored sites are undeniably valuable.
>> His behavior on his private #altreligionscientology channel is
>> reprehensible, much like an out-of-control teenager. He should be
>> reflective of what constitutes his reputation.
>
> You got spanked, and resent it. Patently obvious. Talk about acting
> like a sulky teenager, pot, kettle, black! Get over it.
He was downright offensive toward Dave and others on the channel.
He got what he wanted. He was kicked out. Then he came to ars
and started whining about it.
<snip>
>>
>> Post the by-laws of your ARS club and perhaps I can qualify.
>> Otherwise, have a nice day!
You'll never qualify. Pompous asses are not allowed, only
people that want to talk without insulting others.
Patty P
Chris P. Bacon
>A spy inside the C of S has forward pictures taken during the
>2007 New Year's event.
How about just simply saying that Scientology promotes violence (and war and
terrorism and religious persecution). Wow, that's the same thing that Modern
Christian Religion promotes as it's central tenet. Strange co-incidence? No.
http://www.war-is-terrorism.net
>There are 10 pictures on my flickr site. 9 of the pictures show
>violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
>grenades. The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
>New Year's event. In the front row you will also see Tom
>and Katie Cruise.
Ah the TomKitten
http://www.scientomogy.com
http://www.scientomogy.info
http://jedi.apana.org.au/~mib
CPB.
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