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Patty Pieniadz  
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From: "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:51:28 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 12 2007 9:51 pm
Subject: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
A spy inside the C of S has forward pictures taken during the
2007 New Year's event.

There are 10 pictures on my flickr site.  9 of the pictures show
violence toward psychiatry including blowing them up with
grenades.  The last picture shows the Scn elite at the 2007
New Year's event.  In the front row you will also see Tom
and Katie Cruise.

Critics of Scn are welcome to use these photo's to alert
the media and others of the violence and hatred that
the cult promotes toward psychiatry.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/792781179/in/photostream/

Patty P


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From: knok_knok <fp_do...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:15:25 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 12 2007 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 13, 11:51 am, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:

These photos prove that the CULT openly inciting hatred and violence
towards a particular group of people, (hate crimes) and that it is
recommending the use of explosives in order to achieve its goals.
(terrorist activity)

 If Keith Henson was found guilty for the phrase "Tom Cruise
Missile".. DM should be jailed for these legitimate threats of death
and violence.


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From: cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:33:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 12, 6:51 pm, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:

So why does a hate group get tax exemption?

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From: cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:37:33 -0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 12 2007 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 12, 6:51 pm, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, has someone alerted the American Psychiatric Association?
I'm sure they'd be interested that a religious organization is
promoting grenades being thrown at psychiatrists.

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From: "thorazine shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:51:17 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 12 2007 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Much thanks for the post. That's good stuff.

Do you have any of those those in a higher resolution?


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(1 user)  More options Jul 12 2007, 11:32 pm
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From: Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:32:24 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 12 2007 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Because a religion can be a hate group. The granter of tax exemption
is the U.S. Federal Government, and it's the same U.S. Federal
Government that says any organization, without any qualification, can
itself, without any qualifier, determine itself to be religious. A
hate group, a commercial enterprise, a scam, an intelligence network,
a totalitarian cult, a criminal conspiracy against people's rights, or
a threat to democracy and to reason, as Scientology proves for all
these categories, can determine to be religious, and with "enough"
people (even headless ones) can constitute a religion.

The Scientology hate group got tax exemption because a strategic
decision was made within the U.S. Federal Government to "create" the
above policy.

Up to a certain date, organizations that were hate groups, commercial
enterprises, scams, intelligence networks, totalitarian cults,
criminal conspiracies, or threats to democracy and to reason were not
granted automatic religion status and automatic tax exemption, but
there was a public examination, significantly in the nation's courts,
but by various federal departments, to determine the organization's
"religiousness" apart from its nature and activities as a hate group,
commercial enterprise, scam, intelligence network, totalitarian cult,
criminal conspiracy or threat.

The U.S. Federal Government then created the International Religious
Freedom Act of 1998, now 22 USC § 6401, et seq., to give its strategic
decision some additional effect and additional channels to create
effects.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00006401--...

It is clear that this strategic decision and the creation of the IRFA
were motivated by, among other factors, Scientology's nature and
activities, and it is clear that the U.S. Federal Government has acted
to protect its decision and protect the nasty, sociopathic cult the
decision favors.

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org


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From: Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:35:17 -0600
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 12:35 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Actually, Pate', there are 70 photos on this flickr site.  Notably, you
have posted the photos of the principals of the #altreligionscientology
IRC channel cabal.  It is strange that the cabal all *appear* to be adults.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283968/in/photostream/
"The Voice of Truth Award": Rob Clark. WTF?  Rob can't put a sentence
together without searching his gutter for words that no intelligent
person would present in an argument.  Truth?  One wonders if Clark has
age-dependent dementia.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283909/in/photostream/
"The Lone Wolf Award": Deana Holmes.  WTF?  She can no longer present
anything of value on any venue after her vituperative attacks on one and
all using words she threw into the gutter that Rob Clark picked up for
free. There is no wonder she is now a "lone wolf".

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283780/in/photostream/"Admiral
of the Marcab Confederacy": Dave Touretzky.
I always thought that Dr. Dave was an up-front guy until I tuned into
#altreligionscientology and engaged his pre-pubescent antics.  "His"
valuable sites must be composed by mature graduate students.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210283722/in/photostream/
"The 'Tough as a Clamshell Award'": Clair Swazey.  Fluffy needs to be
tough since she is the singular Scientology apologist on every critical
venue.  She has defied personal acknowledgment of what even new critics
know as her Scientology HAT.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/210222842/in/photostream/
Photo of Henri (Rob Clark). He is French, of course, as a denial of U.S.
citizenship as an effective blow to the current U.S. government.  One
wonders what he is to do now that the right-wing Nicolas Sarkozy is in
charge of France? What country and name shall he choose?  I suggest
North Korea: Kim Ill Spoken.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattypieniadz/209195299/in/photostream/
Photo of Cody: Guaranteed the only honest person in the party.

Apologies to those not named, but found themselves in the company of
critics with disreputable portfolios.

Q


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Patty Pieniadz  
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From: "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:36:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Have you lost your fucking mind?

I post pictures from the 2007 New Years event showing
violence toward psychs and all you can do is bitch and whine
about my friends.

Get some help and grow some balls you anon coward.

Patty P


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From: WolfyRik <Wolfy...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:22:43 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 13, 8:36 am, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well said and thanks for posting the photos. It's disgusting how far
these cult maniacs of the so called "church" of scientology will go.
Now they're actively inciting murder, guess they've moved up from
killing people through policies.

I've noticed a tendency for them to lash out at medical doctors on the
boards here at late, does that mean they will be advocating the murder
of those in the medical profession next?


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navy.internetoplicht...@gmail.com  
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From: navy.internetoplicht...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:28:33 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 5:28 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On 13 jul, 03:51, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:

This morning I sent an email with these pictures, and the "Code of
Honor" (it reads like a terrorist handbook), to the Dutch Parlement
Commission of Justice, to the National Coordinator Against Terrorism
and, of course, to the Amsterdam Org. I requested to look into it,
because in my opinion it is plain terrorism, promoted by this
organization.

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 More options Jul 13 2007, 5:37 am
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:37:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Thanks Patty. Imagine what the Church would say if someone produced a
piece substituting Scientology for Psychiatry using the same imagery.

Peach
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From: "Emma" <emmm...@bonbon.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:35:13 +1000
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 5:35 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

"Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:5foobhF3dupblU1@mid.individual.net...

What she said.

Emma

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From: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:44:32 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 5:44 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Oh fer crissakes. Are you back to doing this dumb stuff?

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 More options Jul 13 2007, 7:02 am
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From: Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:02:01 -0000
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 7:02 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
Patty,

Thank you for obtaining these photos and making them available.

This is like a rerun of the Nazi stuff from the 1930s. It boggles the
(hopefully partly sane by now) mind.

You previously apologized for your involvement in Scientology's hate
campaign against Rick Ross and others, and the Narconon scam. I told
you not to bother with guilt trips.

If you think you did any damage to humankind, you have already WAY
more than made up for it. You have graduated to the level of heroine.

Now have a donut, pin on the medal and cutely blush. Thank you, your
needle is floating. ;-)

We are saving lives here. We may never know how many, but we know what
LRH wanted to do to two percent of humanity. And we have at least
limited that.

On Jul 13, 3:51 am, "Patty Pieniadz" <ppieni...@gmail.com> wrote:


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 More options Jul 13 2007, 9:04 am
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:04:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On 13 Jul, 05:35, Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.com> wrote:

As a frequent visitor to the IRC channel i do not recognise any of
these descriptions, sour grapes because Henri kicked you out of it no
doubt

Jinkii


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From: Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:10:31 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
emmm...@bonbon.net:

> > Get some help and grow some balls you anon coward.
> > Patty P

> What she said.

> Emma

What they said. People you disagree with are not necessarily your Enemies.

It is part of totalitarian conditioning to persuade people to think this
way, and one of the more difficult distortions to escape from.

Your relative disagrees with you? Disconnect.

Your partner won't do everything you ask? Divorce.

Your workmates invalidate you? KR them.

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 More options Jul 13 2007, 10:06 am
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:06:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

I say that to make a stronger case, include as much evidence as
possible. To the above, you can add Michael L. Tilse's account of 2003
(the hanging of 'psychs'):

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/47bf85184...

And the Evening Standard's article in which the reporter attended a
Scientology event where images of 'psychs' being machine-gunned where shown:

http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/media/articles/es231006.html

Martin Ottman's affidavit contains excellent material that it's more
than mere 'expose' of psychiatry going on at the Church of Scientology
and its fronts. They clearly can be held accountable of preventing
people from getting proper treatment through their hate-filled propaganda:

«I was indoctrinated for four years with the idea that the world in
which we lived was the product of a conspiracy of psychologists and
psychiatrists.»
— former scientologist Martin Ottman, in "Affidavit of Martin Ottmann
(19 April 1996)"

Ask someone to seek proper treatment with a psychologist/psychiatrist
after that four years of brainwashing that "psychiatrists are evil"...
Clearly they are interfering with the medical profession.

Ray.

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- Dan Garvin, former scientologist

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 More options Jul 13 2007, 10:16 am
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From: barb <xenub...@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:16:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Outstanding!
Man, the dwarf is aging badly, and swiftly!

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"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
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 More options Jul 13 2007, 10:40 am
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From: barb <xenub...@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:40:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

1. You don't seem to comprehend Flickr at all.
2. What is your fucking problem? Who the hell are you to be passing
judgment on these people?

Henri is one of the finest writers here, and one whose skill I admire.
Dr. Dave, 'nuff said.

All of these people you publicly dissed have accomplished a lot, from
offering thought-provoking arguments to providing valuable research
tools and content.

Now, I don't want to get into the Durks' mode of "Oh yeah, what have YOU
done?" which is the equivalent of waving peepees on the playground, but
just who the hell do you think you are?

If you had a modicum of the respect I have for these people, I'd be the
first to extoll your accomplishments.
Strangely, I can't think of any. All you seem to do is add your two
cents to every thread. They got bots that can do that. And they're not
anonymous.

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insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
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From: "Cecil" <greatwh...@planet.nl>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:01:04 +0200
Local: Fri, Jul 13 2007 11:01 am
Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

"barb" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:fPLli.501895$JN6.471530@newsfe17.phx...

And shriiiiiiiinking!

Man, he looks tiny with a too big and oily slick head for a leader.

I read about the characteristics of a great leader and he doesn't
score one single point

Are these scieno's so completely blind and deaf that they cannot see
and hear a con-man straight from Hubbard's hell?

Right, a high school dropout as well!


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 More options Jul 13 2007, 11:16 am
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:16:05 -0700
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 13, 4:01 pm, "Cecil" <greatwh...@planet.nl> wrote:

MWahahahahaha! You're entirely right, probably about the shrinking
too! ;)

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:05:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Geez, lets hope the dwarf never takes up surfing! One dunk of that
greasy head and dying seabirds would be washing up on the beach from
Malibu to Huntington Beach!

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"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:12:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 13, 5:05 pm, barb <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:

An eco-disaster of epic proportions. I wonder if the oil-eating
microbes used in oil-spills would work on Davey-boy's head grease......

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:37:42 -0000
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry
On Jul 13, 6:05 pm, barb <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote:

What about Black's Beach? If some paparazzi caught Davie and Tommy
there with a telephoto lens, the pic might be worth a fortune!

Oh, forget I said that.


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 More options Jul 14 2007, 1:24 pm
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:24:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: Scientology promotes violence toward psychiatry

Many thanks for these. I actually read accounts about this at OCMB a
while ago, these pictures are welcomed evidence.

http://www.xenu-directory.net/topics/miscavige-vs-psychiatry.html

Ray.

--
"I started thinking, and I got carried away"
- Dan Garvin, former scientologist

"We simply do as [L. Ron Hubbard] says"
- Dennis Clarke, scientologist


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