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ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 4, 2013, 5:01:32 PM4/4/13
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On Apr 5, 2:06 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >On Apr 4, 7:41 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:51:18 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ><alan...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i meddelelsen
> >> >news:6f46daf4-1a7d-41eb...@kx7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>On Apr 3, 9:26 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> >>> >So how does that work, Duke?
>
> >> >>> The real question is why you continue to fabricate lies like that?
>
> >> >>> >How do allegorical parents conceive real flesh and blood offspring?
>
> >> >>> Beats me. You said it, not me.
>
> >> >>> >At what point in the bible did the narrative switch from being
> >> >>> >allegorical to real?
>
> >> >>> Actually, Abraham of about 2000BC (4000 years ago for dummies like you)
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> considered the first real man in the bible.
>
> >> >>So how come Paddy thinks Cain and Abel were real people? Are you two
> >> >>guys even in the same religion?
> >> >According to the Bible Abraham is a descendant of Adam and Eve, but now we
> >> >are told that Adam and Eve were not real people but Abraham was. I find it
> >> >rather funny that, no matter how many times this is pointed out, that people
> >> >such as Puke are unable to see the problem.
>
> >> Good grief. An atheist that denies evolution. Does this mean he accepts
> >> creation? It's the only other choice.
>
> >You're kidding!
> >You think allegorical people (Adam and Eve) eventually evolved into
> >real people (Abraham et al)?
>
> Have you got a better answer?
>
> >But where are the transitional fossils?
> >Is there a half-allegorical half-real missing link?
Well, Paddy? Do you agree with this latest ridiculous idea that Duke
is peddling?
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >On Apr 4, 7:41 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:51:18 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ><alan...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i meddelelsen
> >> >news:6f46daf4-1a7d-41eb...@kx7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>On Apr 3, 9:26 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> >>> >So how does that work, Duke?
>
> >> >>> The real question is why you continue to fabricate lies like that?
>
> >> >>> >How do allegorical parents conceive real flesh and blood offspring?
>
> >> >>> Beats me. You said it, not me.
>
> >> >>> >At what point in the bible did the narrative switch from being
> >> >>> >allegorical to real?
>
> >> >>> Actually, Abraham of about 2000BC (4000 years ago for dummies like you)
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> considered the first real man in the bible.
>
> >> >>So how come Paddy thinks Cain and Abel were real people? Are you two
> >> >>guys even in the same religion?
> >> >According to the Bible Abraham is a descendant of Adam and Eve, but now we
> >> >are told that Adam and Eve were not real people but Abraham was. I find it
> >> >rather funny that, no matter how many times this is pointed out, that people
> >> >such as Puke are unable to see the problem.
>
> >> Good grief. An atheist that denies evolution. Does this mean he accepts
> >> creation? It's the only other choice.
>
> >You're kidding!
> >You think allegorical people (Adam and Eve) eventually evolved into
> >real people (Abraham et al)?
>
> Have you got a better answer?
>
> >But where are the transitional fossils?
> >Is there a half-allegorical half-real missing link?
Well, Paddy? Do you agree with this latest ridiculous idea that Duke
is peddling?
MarkA
Apr 4, 2013, 5:36:00 PM4/4/13
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--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 4, 2013, 5:51:40 PM4/4/13
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you digress.
Patrick
Apr 4, 2013, 5:53:35 PM4/4/13
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:36:00 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
ATTN: alvinp...
I kill-filed you and don't read your junk.
Stop talking to me.
wrote:
I kill-filed you and don't read your junk.
Stop talking to me.
Syd M.
Apr 4, 2013, 6:53:58 PM4/4/13
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Must mean that you do.
PDW
Smiler
Apr 4, 2013, 7:43:54 PM4/4/13
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--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 4, 2013, 7:53:10 PM4/4/13
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In article <chtrl8hbrhefrmfim...@4ax.com>,
Awesome. That means he can talk any shit he wants behind your back.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
duke
Apr 5, 2013, 6:58:55 AM4/5/13
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
>you digress.
All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
>you digress.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 5, 2013, 7:06:55 AM4/5/13
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In article <6ibtl85s1hqinst02...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
Poor poor dukie.
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
Patrick
Apr 5, 2013, 7:09:13 AM4/5/13
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I don't have to listen to his whiney lies anymore.
It wouldn't be so bad if he actually was here to discuss rather than
insult EVERY SINGLE TIME. In case you are wondering, I also
kill-filed duca. Another one line whiner.
Patrick
Apr 5, 2013, 7:33:21 AM4/5/13
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Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 5, 2013, 11:09:56 AM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
But
> >you digress.
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
But
> >you digress.
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
> The dukester, American - American
> ********************************************
> Repeal Obama
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
Terry
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 5, 2013, 11:28:12 AM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:09:56 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> >But you digress.
>
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
Duke and RHW are certainly insane.
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> >But you digress.
>
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
They live in a word of deluded fantasy and imagine everybody else is
part of it.
>Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
What a fucking moron.
A liar as well as an idiot.
>It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
>never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
your pretend friend?
duke
Apr 5, 2013, 11:48:54 AM4/5/13
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>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>But
>> >you digress.
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
>It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
>never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
Well, hecky darn. <g>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>But
>> >you digress.
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
>It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
>never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
duke
Apr 5, 2013, 11:49:43 AM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:28:12 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:09:56 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
><badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>>> >But you digress.
>>
>>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
>Duke and RHW are certainly insane.
>
>They live in a word of deluded fantasy and imagine everybody else is
>part of it.
Speaking of one of deluded fantasy.
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:09:56 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
><badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>>> >But you digress.
>>
>>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
>Duke and RHW are certainly insane.
>
>They live in a word of deluded fantasy and imagine everybody else is
>part of it.
>>Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>>lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>>which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
>See what I mean?
>
>What a fucking moron.
>
>A liar as well as an idiot.
>
>>It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>>taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
>>never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
>Why can't you stop lying about those who have no reason to believe in
>your pretend friend?
thomas p.
Apr 5, 2013, 10:22:50 PM4/5/13
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"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:almarsoft.5739...@news.astraweb.com...
tactic when there is no logical way to defend one's own beliefs.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:almarsoft.5739...@news.astraweb.com...
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
>> >you digress.
>
>
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their lives,
> perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured which led them
> to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever taught
> them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will never
> abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
The above is an example of the use of personal insult. It is a necessary
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
>
>> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
>> >you digress.
>
>
>> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their lives,
> perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured which led them
> to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever taught
> them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will never
> abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
tactic when there is no logical way to defend one's own beliefs.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 5, 2013, 10:25:30 PM4/5/13
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On Apr 5, 8:58 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
hater.
For me to hate something, it needs to -
a) exist and
b) have a reputation for being really nasty and totally useless
Your god qualifies for (b) but fails on (a).
You dooky qualify for both a and b. However, due to your abject
stupidity, I decided to let you off. besides, now that Paddy isn't
talking to me any more, you are the only god-bot I can have fun trying
to educate.
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
I'm not a god hater. I'm not a tooth-fairy hater, or a leprechaun-
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
hater.
For me to hate something, it needs to -
a) exist and
b) have a reputation for being really nasty and totally useless
Your god qualifies for (b) but fails on (a).
You dooky qualify for both a and b. However, due to your abject
stupidity, I decided to let you off. besides, now that Paddy isn't
talking to me any more, you are the only god-bot I can have fun trying
to educate.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 5, 2013, 10:54:06 PM4/5/13
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On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
believe it exists?
Allow me to explain. (shouldn't have to explain, but you christers are
sure dumb).
OK. If I'm a god-hater, then you must be a thor-hater or an odin-
hater. Plainly, that's ridiculous. I prefer to hate the easter bunny,
coz one year my chocolate egg was broken when I opened the wrapper.
No, I made that up, just to help you understand how stupid it is to
hate (or even love) something that doesn't actually exist.
Get it? Got it? Good.
>Disappointed. At some time in their
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with an
atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians rarely
if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
christians more than anything else that turned me off religion. People
like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
you.
you to Duke and Paddy too.
wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
> > >you digress.
> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
> > >you digress.
> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
believe it exists?
Allow me to explain. (shouldn't have to explain, but you christers are
sure dumb).
OK. If I'm a god-hater, then you must be a thor-hater or an odin-
hater. Plainly, that's ridiculous. I prefer to hate the easter bunny,
coz one year my chocolate egg was broken when I opened the wrapper.
No, I made that up, just to help you understand how stupid it is to
hate (or even love) something that doesn't actually exist.
Get it? Got it? Good.
>Disappointed. At some time in their
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with an
atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians rarely
if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
christians more than anything else that turned me off religion. People
like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
you.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big thank
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
you to Duke and Paddy too.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 5, 2013, 11:03:32 PM4/5/13
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On Apr 5, 9:09 pm, Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:53:10 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
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> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:53:10 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
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> >In article <chtrl8hbrhefrmfim8rc9s652i0kdm2...@4ax.com>,
protecting lying piss-weak borderline retarded biblebot slug doesn't
want to talk to me anymore?
Oh, the humanity!! How devastating for me.
Meh.
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 5, 2013, 11:14:29 PM4/5/13
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:22:50 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
My point was to observe the path this insidious disease usually
takes. It is a disease because it is an anomalous human condition
which invites so much anxiety, and alienates the victim from the only
source of lasting peace.
Often the first step in getting well again, physically or spiritually
is the ingestion of some foul tasting medicine, yes?
I don't derive any joy from pointing out these things. I say them
because atheism has so curved your thinking process that you are
unable to see the elephant in the room. Best wishes for a speedy
recovery, truly. :)
> --
> thomas p
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
> David Hume
--
Terry
wrote:
takes. It is a disease because it is an anomalous human condition
which invites so much anxiety, and alienates the victim from the only
source of lasting peace.
Often the first step in getting well again, physically or spiritually
is the ingestion of some foul tasting medicine, yes?
I don't derive any joy from pointing out these things. I say them
because atheism has so curved your thinking process that you are
unable to see the elephant in the room. Best wishes for a speedy
recovery, truly. :)
> --
> thomas p
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
> David Hume
Terry
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 5, 2013, 11:26:06 PM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:14:29 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:22:50 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> "Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:almarsoft.5739...@news.astraweb.com...
>> > On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually
>insane.
>> > But
>> >> >you digress.
>> >
>> >
>> >> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>> >
>> > Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>> > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>> > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:22:50 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> "Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:almarsoft.5739...@news.astraweb.com...
>> > On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually
>insane.
>> > But
>> >> >you digress.
>> >
>> >
>> >> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>> >
>> > Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
>> > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>> > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
>> > It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>> > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
>> > will never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
Your mental illness isn't just that you live in your own little
>> > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
>> > will never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
deluded fantasy world, but you think everybody else does too.
>> The above is an example of the use of personal insult. It is a
>> necessary tactic when there is no logical way to defend one's
>> own beliefs.
has always rudely and stupidly presumed they are fact where he knows
they are just so much question-begging bullshit.
>My point was to observe the path this insidious disease usually
>takes. It is a disease because it is an anomalous human condition
>which invites so much anxiety, and alienates the victim from the only
>source of lasting peace.
Religion IS the disease.
Look what it's done to you.
>Often the first step in getting well again, physically or spiritually
>is the ingestion of some foul tasting medicine, yes?
>I don't derive any joy from pointing out these things. I say them
>because atheism has so curved your thinking process that you are
>unable to see the elephant in the room. Best wishes for a speedy
>recovery, truly. :)
How can the exact equivalent of not believing in the fairies at the
bottom of the garden, curve anybody's thinking, imbecile?
You're a perfect example of religion destroying a mind that might once
have been able to think.
Were you both stupid and sociopathic before you got religion, or did
it make you so?
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 5, 2013, 11:29:52 PM4/5/13
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that - they just hate the foul image of God they've built up in their
head), after a few days in a.a.
Often this hate spills over into what I can only call a neurotic
mistrust of the intentions of theists. There is an overriding
inability to recognize that theists may have good motives.
However I don't dislike atheists. I think you're rather a likeable
bunch, in fact. That's why I'm still here! I just think you're
mistaken and deluded, carried away by an unnatural way of looking at
the world, a perverse way in fact.
> >Disappointed. At some time in their
> > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
> No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
> arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
> are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
perception into outright bigotry. Christianity taken in its entirety
is not shallow, my friend. Modern life, which atheists love to trump
is _decidedly_ so.
> I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with
an
> atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians
rarely
> if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
> christians more than anything else that turned me off religion.
People
> like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
> stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
> you.
> >
> > It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
will
> > never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
that _can_ show you something new. Certainly, that support group of
fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't. It's merely
positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well simply
recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
intellect.
> Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
thank
> you to Duke and Paddy too.
discussion. I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
--
Terry
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 5, 2013, 11:45:43 PM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:29:52 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>No one can say atheists are not God haters (well, they're not really
>that - they just hate the foul image of God they've built up in their
>head), after a few days in a.a.
Why can't you stop lying about atheists, shit-for brains?
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>No one can say atheists are not God haters (well, they're not really
>that - they just hate the foul image of God they've built up in their
>head), after a few days in a.a.
>Often this hate spills over into what I can only call a neurotic
>mistrust of the intentions of theists. There is an overriding
>inability to recognize that theists may have good motives.
> However I don't dislike atheists.
> I think you're rather a likeable
>bunch, in fact. That's why I'm still here!
of religious harassment.
> I just think you're
>mistaken and deluded, carried away by an unnatural way of looking at
>the world, a perverse way in fact.
>> >Disappointed. At some time in their
>> > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
>> > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>> No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
>> arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
>> are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
>
>I submit that the neurotic mistrust referenced above has skewed your
>perception into outright bigotry. Christianity taken in its entirety
>is not shallow, my friend. Modern life, which atheists love to trump
>is _decidedly_ so.
>> I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with
>> an atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians
>> rarely if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
>> christians more than anything else that turned me off religion.
outside it.
So they amateur psychologise all sorts of falsehoods about us as if we
were inside it.
Even though it's hardly rocket science that their god/religion
combination is just one out of hundreds.
And just like all the others, it is only taken seriously by its own
believers.
The fact that they can't grasp this remarkably obvious fact, is just
one of the reasons they get treated as the idiots this tells us they
are.
>> People like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making
>> sure I stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a
>> thank you.
>> > It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
>> > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
>> > will never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>Christians are the _only_ people you are likely to have contact with
>that _can_ show you something new.
> Certainly, that support group of
>fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't. It's merely
>positive reinforcement that you are after.
> One might as well simply
>recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
>intellect.
understand why we conclude that you are seriously mentally ill.
>> Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
>> thank you to Duke and Paddy too.
>
>But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
>discussion. I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
It's hatred that makes you stalk atheists where they hang out and
behave the way you do to them.
Decent people don't do that sort of thing.
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 1:31:43 AM4/6/13
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seriously. You really need to chill out!
Off to bed. G'night or good morning as the case may be...
--
Terry
thomas p.
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ability to read minds. I wonder if you feel any shame at all by your
descent into such shabby tactics.
thomas p.
Apr 6, 2013, 5:29:18 AM4/6/13
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> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 1:09Â am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
snip
>
> But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
> discussion. I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
thomas p.
Apr 6, 2013, 5:33:44 AM4/6/13
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I rather expected this. His recent posts have been increasingly incoherent
perhaps in response to the utter failure of his attempt at rational
argument.
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perhaps in response to the utter failure of his attempt at rational
argument.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 6, 2013, 5:46:49 AM4/6/13
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On Apr 6, 1:29 pm, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
wrote:
So now you are saying that only those atheists who have been exposed
to alt.atheism are god haters? The vast majority of atheists in the
world have never even heard of alt.atheism.
who tell lies often. Sadly, this seems to be a defining characteristic
of most theists I have encountered.
> However I don't dislike atheists. I think you're rather a likeable
> bunch, in fact. That's why I'm still here! I just think you're
> mistaken and deluded, carried away by an unnatural way of looking at
> the world, a perverse way in fact.
I see nothing "natural" about worshiping thor or odin or yahweh or
baal. Can you explain what you mean here?
> > >Disappointed. At some time in their
> > > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> > > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
> > No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
> > arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
> > are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
>
> I submit that the neurotic mistrust referenced above has skewed your
Nothing neurotic about it. Have a look at Duke, for example. As venal
and profane and self-absorbed as he is, I see very little in him that
I don't see in most other christians.
> perception into outright bigotry. Christianity taken in its entirety
> is not shallow, my friend.
It's a lot shallower than buddhism.
>Modern life, which atheists love to trump
> is _decidedly_ so.
I do agree that some aspects of secular "modern life" are no less
inane and irritatingly pointless as any of the mindless rituals you
will find within an organized religion. The Kardashians come to mind,
pro wrestling is another, monster truck racing... I'm sure you can
think of a few more.
> > I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with
> an
> > atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians
> rarely
> > if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
> > christians more than anything else that turned me off religion.
> People
> > like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
> > stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
> > you.
>
> > > It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> > > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
> will
> > > never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
> Christians are the _only_ people you are likely to have contact with
> that _can_ show you something new.
I admit that Duke's idea that a mythological Adam and Eve can "evolve"
thru hundreds of generations of successively less mythological
characters, to finally arrive at a non-mythological Abraham, is an
ENTIRELY new idea!
But be honest now, isn't that the most profoundly idiotic idea you
have ever heard of?
>Certainly, that support group of
> fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't.
I don't need a support group. I think non-recovering catho-holics like
Duke and Paddy could benefit from some sort of rehab program though.
>It's merely
> positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well simply
> recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
> intellect.
Wouldn't be as entertaining though.
> > Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
> thank
> > you to Duke and Paddy too.
>
> But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
> discussion.
Are you one of those theists who run away when an atheist begins to
ask awkward questions?
> I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
I've seen worse philosophies of life.
Maybe you and I can have a useful discussion, after all. Perhaps we
can start by discussing the subject of this thread?
I hope you don't have some misguided sense of loyalty to a fellow
theist (Duke) which will prevent you from giving your honest opinion
of his "allegorical people >---> real people" evolutionary
transformational theory. :)
wrote:
to alt.atheism are god haters? The vast majority of atheists in the
world have never even heard of alt.atheism.
>
> Often this hate spills over into what I can only call a neurotic
> mistrust of the intentions of theists. There is an overriding
> inability to recognize that theists may have good motives.
It's a bit difficult to attribute good motives to a class of people
> Often this hate spills over into what I can only call a neurotic
> mistrust of the intentions of theists. There is an overriding
> inability to recognize that theists may have good motives.
who tell lies often. Sadly, this seems to be a defining characteristic
of most theists I have encountered.
> However I don't dislike atheists. I think you're rather a likeable
> bunch, in fact. That's why I'm still here! I just think you're
> mistaken and deluded, carried away by an unnatural way of looking at
> the world, a perverse way in fact.
baal. Can you explain what you mean here?
> > >Disappointed. At some time in their
> > > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> > > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
> > No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
> > arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
> > are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
>
> I submit that the neurotic mistrust referenced above has skewed your
and profane and self-absorbed as he is, I see very little in him that
I don't see in most other christians.
> perception into outright bigotry. Christianity taken in its entirety
> is not shallow, my friend.
>Modern life, which atheists love to trump
> is _decidedly_ so.
inane and irritatingly pointless as any of the mindless rituals you
will find within an organized religion. The Kardashians come to mind,
pro wrestling is another, monster truck racing... I'm sure you can
think of a few more.
> > I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with
> an
> > atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things. Christians
> rarely
> > if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
> > christians more than anything else that turned me off religion.
> People
> > like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
> > stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
> > you.
>
> > > It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> > > taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he
> will
> > > never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
> Christians are the _only_ people you are likely to have contact with
> that _can_ show you something new.
thru hundreds of generations of successively less mythological
characters, to finally arrive at a non-mythological Abraham, is an
ENTIRELY new idea!
But be honest now, isn't that the most profoundly idiotic idea you
have ever heard of?
>Certainly, that support group of
> fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't.
Duke and Paddy could benefit from some sort of rehab program though.
>It's merely
> positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well simply
> recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
> intellect.
> > Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
> thank
> > you to Duke and Paddy too.
>
> But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
> discussion.
ask awkward questions?
> I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
Maybe you and I can have a useful discussion, after all. Perhaps we
can start by discussing the subject of this thread?
I hope you don't have some misguided sense of loyalty to a fellow
theist (Duke) which will prevent you from giving your honest opinion
of his "allegorical people >---> real people" evolutionary
transformational theory. :)
duke
Apr 6, 2013, 7:30:19 AM4/6/13
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> But
>> > >you digress.
>> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>
>Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>believe it exists?
You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I believe in
>On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> But
>> > >you digress.
>> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>
>Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>believe it exists?
but you don't is very clear.
duke
Apr 6, 2013, 7:31:21 AM4/6/13
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Patrick
Apr 6, 2013, 7:41:36 AM4/6/13
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with whiners and liars like alanp. His posts becames so hateful and
insulting to me that I finally kill-filed him. Sometimes I just don't
understand why he (and his pals) can be so hateful. It wouldn't have
been so bad if he had struck a conversation once in a while. Hpwever,
he became so much like duca and WTF, I invited him to join them in my
kill file. Perhaps in a month, he may learn to lighten up. Good luck
to you in your quest to get him to at least listen.
> ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
>Christians are the _only_ people you are likely to have contact with
>that _can_ show you something new. Certainly, that support group of
>fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't. It's merely
>positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well simply
>recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
>intellect.
>
>> Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
>thank you to Duke and Paddy too.
>
>But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
>discussion. I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
Good for you, RH. You have much more patience than I do - especially
>
>Christians are the _only_ people you are likely to have contact with
>that _can_ show you something new. Certainly, that support group of
>fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't. It's merely
>positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well simply
>recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
>intellect.
>
>> Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
>thank you to Duke and Paddy too.
>
>But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
>discussion. I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
with whiners and liars like alanp. His posts becames so hateful and
insulting to me that I finally kill-filed him. Sometimes I just don't
understand why he (and his pals) can be so hateful. It wouldn't have
been so bad if he had struck a conversation once in a while. Hpwever,
he became so much like duca and WTF, I invited him to join them in my
kill file. Perhaps in a month, he may learn to lighten up. Good luck
to you in your quest to get him to at least listen.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 6, 2013, 8:10:58 AM4/6/13
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On Apr 6, 9:30 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
All I'm doing is asking questions. Do you think you have the right to
not have your pronouncements and assertions questioned?
For example, you have agreed that Adam and Eve didn't exist at all.
You OTOH also claim that Abraham was a real person, as real as you and
I.
You further claim that Abraham is a direct descendant of Adam and Eve.
How can this be?
Oh yes, you already answered this. Evolution, you say.
Why can't you just admit you were mistaken?
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> >> But
> >> > >you digress.
> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>
> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
> >believe it exists?
>
> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I believe in
> but you don't is very clear.
Bitterness? What bitternes Dukie?
> >On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> >> But
> >> > >you digress.
> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>
> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
> >believe it exists?
>
> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I believe in
> but you don't is very clear.
All I'm doing is asking questions. Do you think you have the right to
not have your pronouncements and assertions questioned?
For example, you have agreed that Adam and Eve didn't exist at all.
You OTOH also claim that Abraham was a real person, as real as you and
I.
You further claim that Abraham is a direct descendant of Adam and Eve.
How can this be?
Oh yes, you already answered this. Evolution, you say.
Why can't you just admit you were mistaken?
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 6, 2013, 8:28:11 AM4/6/13
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:33:44 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
He's never once attempted rational argument.
Just talked about his god as if it were as "real" for us as it was for
him, taking no notice whatsoever of repeated explanation that it
isn't.
Or insisted that everybody see his religion and its history through
rose tinted gasses.
wrote:
Just talked about his god as if it were as "real" for us as it was for
him, taking no notice whatsoever of repeated explanation that it
isn't.
Or insisted that everybody see his religion and its history through
rose tinted gasses.
thomas p.
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himself something of a scholar; but all he had was equivocation and special
pleading - ie word games.
>
> Just talked about his god as if it were as "real" for us as it was for
> him, taking no notice whatsoever of repeated explanation that it
> isn't.
>
> Or insisted that everybody see his religion and its history through
> rose tinted gasses.
>
competently defend Catholic or Christian doctrine, but true believers are
not going to admit that even to themselves.
thomas p.
Apr 6, 2013, 10:51:34 AM4/6/13
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You realize that you are trying to have a discussion with a black hole -
allegorically speaking that is : )
news:4337e297-fae4-41ac...@lg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
allegorically speaking that is : )
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 11:31:17 AM4/6/13
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:25:53 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
I am not trying to be insulting; I am stating what I believe to be
the nature of the case.
> --
> thomas p
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
> David Hume
--
Terry
the nature of the case.
> --
> thomas p
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
> David Hume
Terry
Patrick
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"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You realize that you are trying to have a discussion with a black hole -
>allegorically speaking that is : )
Then, stop posting to alvin.
>You realize that you are trying to have a discussion with a black hole -
>allegorically speaking that is : )
Rockinghorse Winner
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> > However I don't dislike atheists. I think you're rather a
likeable
> > bunch, in fact. That's why I'm still here! I just think you're
> > mistaken and deluded, carried away by an unnatural way of looking
at
> > the world, a perverse way in fact.
> I see nothing "natural" about worshiping thor or odin or yahweh or
> baal. Can you explain what you mean here?
against their natures, which makes them, in a way, perverse (not
sexually, you understand).
> > > >Disappointed. At some time in their
> > > > lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event
occured
> > > > which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
> > > No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
> > > arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most
christians
> > > are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
> >
> > I submit that the neurotic mistrust referenced above has skewed
your
> Nothing neurotic about it. Have a look at Duke, for example. As
venal
> and profane and self-absorbed as he is, I see very little in him
that
> I don't see in most other christians.
matter right often enough.
Plus, he does not pick and choose which posts to respond to as I do,
so he is dealing with many different OPs at once, which is much
harder, especially when some of them are profane and blasphemous.
history to go on. Instead of a dry genealogy, they constructed a
psychologically rich fable of our 'first parents' and included many
profound theological insights on the nature of God, man, sin,
creation and death.
Even taken just as a work of literature, it is a major achievement
and worth reading on that basis. If you have never taken a Bible as
literature course, I recommend it for the appreciation it will give
you.
> >Certainly, that support group of
> > fellow atheists you've gathered around you can't.
> I don't need a support group. I think non-recovering catho-holics
like
> Duke and Paddy could benefit from some sort of rehab program though.
> >It's merely
> > positive reinforcement that you are after. One might as well
simply
> > recite in fro.t of a mirror for all the good it will do your
> > intellect.
> Wouldn't be as entertaining though.
> > > Lovely line of BS you got there, RHW. Thanks for that. And a big
> > thank
> > > you to Duke and Paddy too.
> >
> > But nice talking at you and look forward to continued threads of
> > discussion.
> Are you one of those theists who run away when an atheist begins to
> ask awkward questions?
> > I hate no one, even those I dislike. :)
> I've seen worse philosophies of life.
> Maybe you and I can have a useful discussion, after all. Perhaps we
> can start by discussing the subject of this thread?
talking about oral histories, and there is no way to prove Abraham
ever existed.
But the Israelites did not share our historical precision. Their
concerns were primarily religious and ethical.
Now, religion and ethics are serious topics, and it is to the Jews'
credit that they tackled such serious issues in their literature. We
should read the Bible with an eye toward understanding what the Jews'
intent was in writing it, and not try to fit it in some post-modern
mold of what qualifies as history. That is a fruitless task, imho.
> I hope you don't have some misguided sense of loyalty to a fellow
> theist (Duke) which will prevent you from giving your honest opinion
> of his "allegorical people >---> real people" evolutionary
> transformational theory. :)
Terry
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 1:39:59 PM4/6/13
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> The dukester, American - American
> ********************************************
> Repeal Obama
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
Terry
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 1:44:37 PM4/6/13
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 07:41:36 -0400, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>
wrote:
> to you in your quest to get him to at listen.
The abuse both you and Duke receive would be beyond my ability to
respond to, as well. That is why I am selective in which posts I
respond to, or I would be at my wits end. :0
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Terry
wrote:
The abuse both you and Duke receive would be beyond my ability to
respond to, as well. That is why I am selective in which posts I
respond to, or I would be at my wits end. :0
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Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 1:46:08 PM4/6/13
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:30:19 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
> >On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually
insane.
> >> But
> >> > >you digress.
> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
> >>
> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
> >
> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
> >believe it exists?
> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I
believe in
> but you don't is very clear.
It is rather odd, isn't it?
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:
> >On Apr 6, 1:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net>
wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually
insane.
> >> But
> >> > >you digress.
> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
> >>
> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
> >
> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
> >believe it exists?
> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I
believe in
> but you don't is very clear.
> The dukester, American - American
> ********************************************
> Repeal Obama
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
Terry
duke
Apr 6, 2013, 1:58:09 PM4/6/13
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>On Apr 6, 9:30�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> >On Apr 6, 1:09�am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> >> But
>> >> > >you digress.
>> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>>
>> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>> >believe it exists?
>>
>> You've managed to pull it off. �Your bitterness towards something I believe in
>> but you don't is very clear.
>
>Bitterness? What bitternes Dukie?
>
>All I'm doing is asking questions.
You gave that up long ago.
>On Apr 6, 9:30�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> >On Apr 6, 1:09�am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> >> But
>> >> > >you digress.
>> >> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> >> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>>
>> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>> >believe it exists?
>>
>> You've managed to pull it off. �Your bitterness towards something I believe in
>> but you don't is very clear.
>
>Bitterness? What bitternes Dukie?
>
>All I'm doing is asking questions.
>Do you think you have the right to
>not have your pronouncements and assertions questioned?
>For example, you have agreed that Adam and Eve didn't exist at all.
>You OTOH also claim that Abraham was a real person, as real as you and
>I.
>You further claim that Abraham is a direct descendant of Adam and Eve.
>How can this be?
>Oh yes, you already answered this. Evolution, you say.
>Why can't you just admit you were mistaken?
duke
Apr 6, 2013, 1:58:57 PM4/6/13
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:46:08 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>> >believe it exists?
>> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I
>believe in
>> but you don't is very clear.
>It is rather odd, isn't it?
Yeah, he's a strange bird.
<badass....@gmx.com> wrote:
>> >Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>> >believe it exists?
>> You've managed to pull it off. Your bitterness towards something I
>believe in
>> but you don't is very clear.
>It is rather odd, isn't it?
duke
Apr 6, 2013, 1:59:43 PM4/6/13
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duke
Apr 6, 2013, 2:05:26 PM4/6/13
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>On Apr 6, 1:09�am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> But
>> > >you digress.
>> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>believe it exists?
>Allow me to explain. (shouldn't have to explain, but you christers are
>sure dumb).
>OK. If I'm a god-hater, then you must be a thor-hater or an odin-
>hater. Plainly, that's ridiculous.
I don't hate what I know isn't real. You believe God doesn't exist, but you
>On Apr 6, 1:09�am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
>> But
>> > >you digress.
>> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>>
>> Not insane, Duke, not at all.
>Not god-haters, either. How can you hate something when you don't
>believe it exists?
>Allow me to explain. (shouldn't have to explain, but you christers are
>sure dumb).
>OK. If I'm a god-hater, then you must be a thor-hater or an odin-
>hater. Plainly, that's ridiculous.
hate God anyway.
>No no no. Rather, it's a lifetime of observing how shallow and
>arrogant and uninformative and just generally ditzy most christians
>are, compared to the agnostics and atheists I have met.
>I always learn something new every time I have a conversation with an
>atheist or agnostic, and I like to learn new things.
>Christians rarely
>if ever teach me anything new. So it just happens that it was
>christians more than anything else that turned me off religion. People
>like Duke and Patrick and yes, you, do a great job of making sure I
>stay away from any sort of religion. Probably I owe you all a thank
>you.
thomas p.
Apr 6, 2013, 4:02:28 PM4/6/13
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"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:almarsoft.2589...@news.astraweb.com...
and indulging in a personal attack based on a complete strawman.
Furthermore, even if we pretended that you were correct about our
motivations, it would be completely irrelevant. The fact that you are
unable to provide any objective evidence for any god would not be affected
in the least, and the non-existence of any evidence for any god is the
reason we actually give for our non-belief. Perhaps Darwin (to name one
other example of a silly strawman actually being used) presented his theory
because he didn't like the Church of England; the theory would still be
valid. Your accusations are every bit as silly and pointless as the
accusations of moral depravity directed against Darwin.
thomas p.
Apr 6, 2013, 4:05:44 PM4/6/13
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"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:31:21 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 02:46:49 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
>
>> >On Apr 6, 1:29Â pm, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 02:46:49 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
>
>> >> > On Apr 6, 1:09Â am, Rockinghorse Winner
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 6, 2013, 5:44:20 PM4/6/13
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* It may have been the liquor talking, but
Methinks you are overly sensitive. :)
Terry
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"I look at the radio as gone. Piracy is the new radio. That's how music gets
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Terry
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around."
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Smiler
Apr 6, 2013, 8:01:37 PM4/6/13
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:44:20 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
> * It may have been the liquor talking, but thomas p. <gud...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:almarsoft.2589...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:25:53 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
<snip>
> * It may have been the liquor talking, but thomas p. <gud...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:almarsoft.2589...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:25:53 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the insults continue. They are, of course, absurd based on an
>>>> implied ability to read minds. I wonder if you feel any shame at all
>>>> by your descent into such shabby tactics.
>>>
>>> I am not trying to be insulting;
>>> I am stating what I believe to be the nature of the case.
>>
>> What you are doing is running away from the issue that was being
>> discussed and indulging in a personal attack based on a complete
>> strawman. Furthermore, even if we pretended that you were correct about
>> our motivations, it would be completely irrelevant. The fact that you
>> are unable to provide any objective evidence for any god would not be
>> affected in the least, and the non-existence of any evidence for any
>> god is the reason we actually give for our non-belief. Perhaps Darwin
>> (to name one other example of a silly strawman actually being used)
>> presented his theory because he didn't like the Church of England; the
>> theory would still be valid. Your accusations are every bit as silly
>> and pointless as the accusations of moral depravity directed against
>> Darwin.
>
> Methinks
--
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The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Smiler
Apr 6, 2013, 8:21:18 PM4/6/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:03:32 -0700, alanp-s wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:09 pm, Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:53:10 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >In article <chtrl8hbrhefrmfim8rc9s652i0kdm2...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:36:00 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:01:32 -0700, alanp-s wrote:
>> >> >> On Apr 5, 2:06 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >On Apr 4, 7:41 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:51:18 +0200, "thomas p."
>> >> >>> >> <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> ><alan...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i meddelelsen
>> >> >>> >> >news:6f46daf4-1a7d-41eb...@kx7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com
>> >> >>> >> >...
>> >> >>> >> >>On Apr 3, 9:26 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> >>> >> >>> alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>> >So how does that work, Duke?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> The real question is why you continue to fabricate lies
>> >> >>> >> >>> like that?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> >How do allegorical parents conceive real flesh and blood
>> >> >>> >> >>> >offspring?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Beats me. You said it, not me.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> >At what point in the bible did the narrative switch from
>> >> >>> >> >>> >being allegorical to real?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Actually, Abraham of about 2000BC (4000 years ago for
>> >> >>> >> >>> dummies like you) is
>> >> >>> >> >>> considered the first real man in the bible.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>So how come Paddy thinks Cain and Abel were real people? Are
>> >> >>> >> >>you two guys even in the same religion?
>> >> >>> >> >According to the Bible Abraham is a descendant of Adam and
>> >> >>> >> >Eve, but now we are told that Adam and Eve were not real
>> >> >>> >> >people but Abraham was. I find it rather funny that, no
>> >> >>> >> >matter how many times this is pointed out, that people such
>> >> >>> >> >as Puke are unable to see the problem.
>>
>> >> >>> >> Good grief. An atheist that denies evolution. Does this
>> >> >>> >> mean he accepts creation? It's the only other choice.
>>
>> >> >>> >You're kidding!
>> >> >>> >You think allegorical people (Adam and Eve) eventually evolved
>> >> >>> >into real people (Abraham et al)?
>>
>> >> >>> Have you got a better answer?
>>
>> >> >>> >But where are the transitional fossils? Is there a
>> >> >>> >half-allegorical half-real missing link?
>>
>> >> >> Well, Paddy? Do you agree with this latest ridiculous idea that
>> >> >> Duke is peddling?
>>
>> >> >Misuse of the word "literally" drives me figuratively insane.
>>
>> >> ATTN: alvinp...
>> >> I kill-filed you and don't read your junk. Stop talking to me.
>>
>> >Awesome. That means he can talk any shit he wants behind your back.
>>
>> Yes, it is awesome.
>> I don't have to listen to his whiney lies anymore. It wouldn't be so bad
>> if he actually was here to discuss rather than insult EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>> In case you are wondering, I also kill-filed duca. Another one line
>> whiner.
>
> Let me get this straight - I am supposed to be upset that a pedo-
> protecting lying piss-weak borderline retarded biblebot slug doesn't want
> to talk to me anymore?
>
> Oh, the humanity!! How devastating for me.
>
> Meh.
My deepest symp^H^H^H^H congratulations, Alan.
> On Apr 5, 9:09 pm, Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:53:10 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >In article <chtrl8hbrhefrmfim8rc9s652i0kdm2...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:36:00 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:01:32 -0700, alanp-s wrote:
>> >> >> On Apr 5, 2:06 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >On Apr 4, 7:41 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:51:18 +0200, "thomas p."
>> >> >>> >> <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> ><alan...@hotmail.co.uk> skrev i meddelelsen
>> >> >>> >> >news:6f46daf4-1a7d-41eb...@kx7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com
>> >> >>> >> >...
>> >> >>> >> >>On Apr 3, 9:26 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> >>> >> >>> alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>> >So how does that work, Duke?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> The real question is why you continue to fabricate lies
>> >> >>> >> >>> like that?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> >How do allegorical parents conceive real flesh and blood
>> >> >>> >> >>> >offspring?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Beats me. You said it, not me.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> >At what point in the bible did the narrative switch from
>> >> >>> >> >>> >being allegorical to real?
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>> Actually, Abraham of about 2000BC (4000 years ago for
>> >> >>> >> >>> dummies like you) is
>> >> >>> >> >>> considered the first real man in the bible.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >>So how come Paddy thinks Cain and Abel were real people? Are
>> >> >>> >> >>you two guys even in the same religion?
>> >> >>> >> >According to the Bible Abraham is a descendant of Adam and
>> >> >>> >> >Eve, but now we are told that Adam and Eve were not real
>> >> >>> >> >people but Abraham was. I find it rather funny that, no
>> >> >>> >> >matter how many times this is pointed out, that people such
>> >> >>> >> >as Puke are unable to see the problem.
>>
>> >> >>> >> Good grief. An atheist that denies evolution. Does this
>> >> >>> >> mean he accepts creation? It's the only other choice.
>>
>> >> >>> >You're kidding!
>> >> >>> >You think allegorical people (Adam and Eve) eventually evolved
>> >> >>> >into real people (Abraham et al)?
>>
>> >> >>> Have you got a better answer?
>>
>> >> >>> >But where are the transitional fossils? Is there a
>> >> >>> >half-allegorical half-real missing link?
>>
>> >> >> Well, Paddy? Do you agree with this latest ridiculous idea that
>> >> >> Duke is peddling?
>>
>> >> >Misuse of the word "literally" drives me figuratively insane.
>>
>> >> ATTN: alvinp...
>> >> I kill-filed you and don't read your junk. Stop talking to me.
>>
>> >Awesome. That means he can talk any shit he wants behind your back.
>>
>> Yes, it is awesome.
>> I don't have to listen to his whiney lies anymore. It wouldn't be so bad
>> if he actually was here to discuss rather than insult EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>> In case you are wondering, I also kill-filed duca. Another one line
>> whiner.
>
> Let me get this straight - I am supposed to be upset that a pedo-
> protecting lying piss-weak borderline retarded biblebot slug doesn't want
> to talk to me anymore?
>
> Oh, the humanity!! How devastating for me.
>
> Meh.
My deepest symp^H^H^H^H congratulations, Alan.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 6, 2013, 8:38:13 PM4/6/13
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Notice he only decided to kill-file me after I put him on the spot by
asking him if he agreed or disagreed with Duke's ludicrous beliefs?
thomas p.
Apr 7, 2013, 4:27:02 AM4/7/13
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"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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Bye now.
duke
Apr 7, 2013, 7:47:00 AM4/7/13
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:05:44 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:almarsoft.8384...@news.astraweb.com...
>> On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:31:21 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 02:46:49 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >On Apr 6, 1:29� pm, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
>"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:almarsoft.8384...@news.astraweb.com...
>> On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:31:21 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 02:46:49 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >> > On Apr 6, 1:09� am, Rockinghorse Winner
understood.
Budikka666
Apr 7, 2013, 8:01:08 AM4/7/13
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On Apr 5, 5:58 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
No one hates yoru fictional god. We hate *your* lies, *your*
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane. But
> >you digress.
>
> All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
cowardice, *your* vacuity and *your* hypocrisy, all of which Usenet
theists like you demonstrate in lavish abundance:
All Flee & Hide All-Seeing-| Ran:
http://tinyurl.com/3zmbfku
http://tinyurl.com/6w3mbrr
http://tinyurl.com/cp8de7y
http://tinyurl.com/77tkgdk
All-Seeing-| denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/836mqf8
http://tinyurl.com/6lj584p
http://tinyurl.com/7pz5ljp
BrailJOB the LiarBoi Loonbag DENYING Jesus THRICE, shrinking away like
a limp Peter at the passion:
http://tinyurl.com/6kck7b5
http://tinyurl.com/7d2s93z
http://tinyurl.com/6wyp6se
The above are included in the following examples of BrailJOB running
in
every single case when he was given ONE HUNDRED Opportunities to
witness for his LORD:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/msg/c69a90d07c0a4d79
Here is BrailJOB the Liarboi running from me for one hundred
consecutive days in his *own* debate challenge thread:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8b50cdfc13197e8?hl=en&scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admits he has nothing to
offer:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/f5d95451e8d8c4a1?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/4bb6ab05a33bab1a?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/dae5640e44de4e8b?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/52822b1a5c47205a?hl=en&scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank's most recent admission that his
omnipotent god is worthless in four threads simultaneously:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/f5d95451e8d8c4a1?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8b50cdfc13197e8?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/7b801d93211e51e7?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank admits he has no faith in his own
god:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank admits that even he doesn't believe:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&
More excuses from Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/cbe97ddc53be5a00?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/59b246e0c8e3e4f9?scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from challenges in SIX THREADS
simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/8cpp6ru
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
authenticity of the "Shroud of Turin", Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby
proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god.
If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had*
any faith, he would have trusted that god to support him and he would
have taken me up on my debate offer.
http://tinyurl.com/9rm86aj
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
existence of Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning
tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that
he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were
an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.
http://tinyurl.com/8o3wsmg
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/ec1a84272b3493f1?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
Noahic flood, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly
admitted that he could not support his LIES by turning tail and
running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he has
ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an
omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.
http://tinyurl.com/9hpgy2v
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/db798efe8d1d0c97?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and present scientific
evidence in support of many wild claims he had made, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning tail and running like the rank coward that
he is, thereby proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and
fictitious god. If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this
loser actually *had* any faith, he would have trusted that god to
support him and he would have taken me up on my debate offer.
http://tinyurl.com/986crjk
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/fb6771658c489b66?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate ENCODE's
latest data, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly
admitted that he could not support his LIES by turning tail and
running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he has
ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an
omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.
http://tinyurl.com/ckeaadm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c786b453f00abb9a?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate his 8
unsupported claims about information, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby
proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god.
If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had*
any faith, he would have trusted that god to support him and he would
have taken me up on my debate offer.
So now you know the truth about Andrew-a-Blank - even *he* does not
truly believe in this god he espouses!
End of story.
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a simple question in
*another* SIX THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zghp7o
http://tinyurl.com/76a8chm
http://tinyurl.com/6q3q498
http://tinyurl.com/6n2swsr
http://tinyurl.com/7rvtlyu
http://tinyurl.com/7x4m3fv
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a debate on DNA in *yet
another* TEN THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zcuwsb
http://tinyurl.com/7t47anq
http://tinyurl.com/7wvegqc
http://tinyurl.com/6rg67wc
http://tinyurl.com/8yqo8fw
http://tinyurl.com/77bopo8
http://tinyurl.com/86zwhj6
http://tinyurl.com/7zlzxtd
http://tinyurl.com/7eknx73
http://tinyurl.com/6lgcwpq
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank denies Christ thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7x9c5wn
http://tinyurl.com/74h455e
http://tinyurl.com/7kl4hc7
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank ran from debate:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7dd8ed410470f4c2?hl=en
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e9b89ac33e01ce5b?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/836bea1f79468d9b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/728ceae4eb1d55e3?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/3a31410d460b908e?hl=en&scoring=d&
BilliBoi Chicken Bill Ran:
http://tinyurl.com/3pabgsu
Coward-For-Christ™ Calvin Ramsey Denying Christ Thrice:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e789f4adad4e8fad?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5ddc9354493b62b3?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5cfb83a18dbc7442?scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Calvin Ramsey Ran Away:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/ebdeac2fb584efac?scoring=d&
Coward-For-Christ™ Codebreaker Ran:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5868cad2d0302527/f756e4d43ab0ae9f?q=Where+is+the+Soul%3F+group:alt.atheism+author:Budikka#f756e4d43ab0ae9f
Duck & Run Duke Ran:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/0cb3889ae3bd41dd
Duck & Run Duke Denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/867lax4
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
Flatnads Fasghnad RAN:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/58c9df7a83bdd7e3?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/3ae847be1ee9305a?hl=en&scoring=d&
Gordon ran:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/676741e6e30738f6?hl=en&scoring=d&
IlNeverBeBauck IlBeBauck Ran:
http://tinyurl.com/3efeute
http://tinyurl.com/7ppk3mq
http://tinyurl.com/7trpdte
http://tinyurl.com/82fte2a
http://tinyurl.com/6n5pj4u
IlNeverBebauck denies Christ thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7kl4hc7
http://tinyurl.com/7od78wt
http://tinyurl.com/7abfajg
Jahnu ran away:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5348d62ac3358230?hl=en&
Joe Bruno Ran away:
http://tinyurl.com/8m38v5w
Jope ran away:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/f73b5397e9553a65?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/787f72a77ea8f2c2?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/d37f5283ea264961?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/dae5640e44de4e8b?hl=en&scoring=d&
Patrick denies Christ thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7l5hyw5
Patrick RAN:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/7b6f623dc1c0947e?hl=en&scoring=d&
US4Lyin' US4ZION Ran
http://tinyurl.com/79f9oxx
US4ZION Denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7oqwbqq
http://tinyurl.com/7rpq6ch
http://tinyurl.com/7pj5ut5
Old Man Joke Old Man Joe ran:
http://tinyurl.com/887lhzh
Ray H Johnson ran:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/4bb6ab05a33bab1a?hl=en&scoring=d&
Zacharias Mulletstein Denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7a47jy8
Zacharias Mulletstein ran away:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8b50cdfc13197e8?hl=en&scoring=d&
Budikka
Budikka666
Apr 7, 2013, 8:07:18 AM4/7/13
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On Apr 5, 10:09 am, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com>
wrote:
right here in this thread?
You go ahead and post your top five *very* *best* items of evidence
for this god. They can consist of positive scientific evidence, or of
independent objective evidence, or even of intelligent rationale or
any mix of the three; then we'll see what you have to offer.
This is your chance to do what your god supposedly wants you to do: to
witness and to win people to him. Are you going to step up to the
plate and embrace this chance or not? Are you going to go the extra
mile, or run a mile? Are you going to give your coat, or throw in the
towel? Are you going to cross the street or cross your wires?
Budikka
wrote:
> Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
Why don't you and I formally debate the existence of this god of yours
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
right here in this thread?
You go ahead and post your top five *very* *best* items of evidence
for this god. They can consist of positive scientific evidence, or of
independent objective evidence, or even of intelligent rationale or
any mix of the three; then we'll see what you have to offer.
This is your chance to do what your god supposedly wants you to do: to
witness and to win people to him. Are you going to step up to the
plate and embrace this chance or not? Are you going to go the extra
mile, or run a mile? Are you going to give your coat, or throw in the
towel? Are you going to cross the street or cross your wires?
Budikka
Smiler
Apr 7, 2013, 7:01:11 PM4/7/13
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duke
Apr 8, 2013, 4:03:56 PM4/8/13
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Budikka666
Apr 8, 2013, 7:58:10 PM4/8/13
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On Apr 8, 3:03 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> Some of you people are too stupid to bother with.
So then you'd have to ask yourself how profoundly *stupid* you have to
> Some of you people are too stupid to bother with.
be to bother with people whom you yourself think aren't worth
bothering with. lol!
But here's where you're a hypcorite: According to NT fiction, you were
expressly instructed to witness to people and lead them to your god.
How come you don'tdo that - or mroe to the point, how come you fail so
comprehensively when you do what you *think* is going to achieve that
end, and then failing to achieve that end, you expressly reject the
instruction of your lord and master to shake the dust off your feet
and depart? Is it because you have such a clean pair of heels?
Or are you just a good-for-nothing liar, hypocrite, coward and vacuous
blowhard?
Budikka
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 8, 2013, 9:52:07 PM4/8/13
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Kermit
Apr 9, 2013, 4:08:50 PM4/9/13
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On 5 Apr, 08:09, Rockinghorse Winner <badass.super...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Terry
This has a great gospel tune, also:
Delta Dawn (Tanya Tucker)
********************************************************
Delta Dawn, what's that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say he was a-meeting you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
She's forty-one and her daddy still calls her "baby"
All the folks around Brownsville say she's crazy
'Cause she walks around town with a suitcase in her hand
Looking for a mysterious dark-haired man
In her younger days they called her Delta Dawn
Prettiest woman you ever laid eyes on
Then a man of low degree stood by her side
And promised her he'd take her for his bride
Delta Dawn, what's that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say he was a-meeting you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
**************************************************
It occurred to me that most of the people listening to this country
hit some bunch of years ago were going to church two or three times a
week, and yet felt sorry for this fictional character. They never saw
the irony in that.
kermit
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:58:55 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
> > >you digress.
> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:51:40 -0700 (PDT), alan...@hotmail.co.uk
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >People who take the bible figuratively are only virtually insane.
> But
> > >you digress.
> > All of you God haters are insane PERIOD.
>
> Not insane, Duke, not at all. Disappointed. At some time in their
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
> lives, perhaps as a child, perhaps as an adult, an event occured
> which led them to doubt God's concern for them.
>
> It was then quite easy to deny the existence of God. No one ever
> taught them that god may allow you to suffer for a time, but he will
> never abandon those who love and wait for Him. Never.
>
> > The dukester, American - American
> > ********************************************
> > Repeal Obama
> > You simply can't fix stupid.
> > ********************************************
>
> --
> > ********************************************
> > Repeal Obama
> > You simply can't fix stupid.
> > ********************************************
>
> Terry
This has a great gospel tune, also:
Delta Dawn (Tanya Tucker)
********************************************************
Delta Dawn, what's that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say he was a-meeting you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
She's forty-one and her daddy still calls her "baby"
All the folks around Brownsville say she's crazy
'Cause she walks around town with a suitcase in her hand
Looking for a mysterious dark-haired man
In her younger days they called her Delta Dawn
Prettiest woman you ever laid eyes on
Then a man of low degree stood by her side
And promised her he'd take her for his bride
Delta Dawn, what's that flower you have on
Could it be a faded rose from days gone by
And did I hear you say he was a-meeting you here today
To take you to his mansion in the sky
**************************************************
It occurred to me that most of the people listening to this country
hit some bunch of years ago were going to church two or three times a
week, and yet felt sorry for this fictional character. They never saw
the irony in that.
kermit
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Apr 9, 2013, 4:34:10 PM4/9/13
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hoping for some superior being(s) to take pity on them and shower them
with undeserved gifts and unearned approval. They think that if they
humiliate themselves sufficiently before these superior beings, they
will gain some unfair advantage over those fellow tribesmen who chose
instead to maintain their dignity by refusing to worship.
Dreamer In Colore
Apr 9, 2013, 4:35:53 PM4/9/13
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:08:50 -0700 (PDT), Kermit <free...@charter.net>
wrote:
I've always found that it's infinitely more appealing to listen to
beautiful country singers when you just turn off the sound.
Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306
wrote:
beautiful country singers when you just turn off the sound.
Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306
Alex W
Apr 9, 2013, 7:15:55 PM4/9/13
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On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:35:53 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>
> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
Dolly Parton.
>
> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
linuxgal
Apr 9, 2013, 9:29:24 PM4/9/13
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--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
duke
Apr 10, 2013, 5:04:35 PM4/10/13
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>But I see the xtians as being more like cargo cultists, wishing and
>hoping for some superior being(s) to take pity on them and shower them
>with undeserved gifts and unearned approval.
Wow, no kidding. Where did you get that silly idea. The last I notices,
>But I see the xtians as being more like cargo cultists, wishing and
>hoping for some superior being(s) to take pity on them and shower them
>with undeserved gifts and unearned approval.
scripture shows Jesus calls us to love and obey God and love and serve our
fellow man.
Btw, what is a "xtian"?
> They think that if they
>humiliate themselves sufficiently before these superior beings, they
>will gain some unfair advantage over those fellow tribesmen who chose
>instead to maintain their dignity by refusing to worship.
Smiler
Apr 10, 2013, 7:57:46 PM4/10/13
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On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:29:24 -0800, linuxgal wrote:
> Alex W wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:35:53 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
>>
>> Dolly Parton.
>>
>>
> You actually looked at her face?
Are you accusing him of being gay?
> Alex W wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:35:53 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
>>
>> Dolly Parton.
>>
>>
> You actually looked at her face?
:-)
Dreamer In Colore
Apr 10, 2013, 8:36:42 PM4/10/13
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:04:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
>>But I see the xtians as being more like cargo cultists, wishing and
>>hoping for some superior being(s) to take pity on them and shower them
>>with undeserved gifts and unearned approval.
>
>Wow, no kidding. Where did you get that silly idea. The last I notices,
>scripture shows Jesus calls us to love and obey God and love and serve our
>fellow man.
>
>Btw, what is a "xtian"?
>
You've been posting on Usenet for a decade, in the atheism group, and
>On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT), ala...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
>>But I see the xtians as being more like cargo cultists, wishing and
>>hoping for some superior being(s) to take pity on them and shower them
>>with undeserved gifts and unearned approval.
>
>Wow, no kidding. Where did you get that silly idea. The last I notices,
>scripture shows Jesus calls us to love and obey God and love and serve our
>fellow man.
>
>Btw, what is a "xtian"?
>
you don't know that Xtian means Christian? Like Xmas means Christmas?
Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306
linuxgal
Apr 10, 2013, 11:15:06 PM4/10/13
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Smiler wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:29:24 -0800, linuxgal wrote:
>
>> Alex W wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:35:53 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
>>>
>>> Dolly Parton.
>>>
>>>
>> You actually looked at her face?
>
> Are you accusing him of being gay?
> :-)
>
No, but doesn't she have to wear one of those t-shirts with an arrow
> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:29:24 -0800, linuxgal wrote:
>
>> Alex W wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:35:53 -0400, Dreamer In Colore wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are there any unattractive popular female country singers?
>>>
>>> Dolly Parton.
>>>
>>>
>> You actually looked at her face?
>
> Are you accusing him of being gay?
> :-)
>
that say "Hey, I'm Up Here!"
duke
Apr 11, 2013, 8:15:14 AM4/11/13
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