DemocRAT's SHAME! Snarling Weasel DemocRATs Caught Trying to Kill Off Seniors!
Patriot Games
Tempers Flare in Senate Healthcare Debate
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
A Republican senator asserted Tuesday during a rancorous floor debate
that President Barack Obama's health care overhaul will shorten the
lives of America's seniors by cutting Medicare.
"I have a message for you: You're going to die sooner," said Sen. Tom
Coburn, R-Okla., an obstetrician-turned-lawmaker.
A senior Democrat decried such comments as scare tactics designed to
kill legislation that he said would improve some benefits for seniors.
At times, the debate recalled the raw charges and countercharges of
the summer's town hall meetings.
Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., defended the health
care legislation, saying it would make Medicare a smarter buyer and
improve prescription coverage and preventive benefits for seniors.
"I hate to say it ... these are scare tactics," Baucus said.
"Sometimes you've got to call a spade a spade." The Senate was
debating an amendment by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that would strip
from the bill more than $400 billion in Medicare cuts to home health
providers, hospitals, hospices and others.
Polls show that seniors are concerned that expanding coverage for the
uninsured will come at their expense. Earlier this year, former GOP
vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin warned of "death panels" that
would deny coverage to frail seniors _ a charge that was widely
debunked. Medicare spending actually would keep growing under the
Democrats' legislation, albeit at a slower rate.
Despite the partisan sparring over Medicare, the first health care
amendment offered was bipartisan, a measure to increase preventive
care for women co-sponsored by Sens. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., and
Olympia Snowe, R-Maine. Snowe was the only Senate Republican to vote
in favor of Democrats' health care legislation in committee.
Their amendment would give the Health and Human Services secretary
authority to require health plans to cover additional preventive
services for women and was inspired in part by controversial
recommendations last month that women undergo fewer mammograms and Pap
smears to test for cancer. Republicans seized on those recommendations
as early signs of rationing of care they say would happen under the
Democrats' 10-year, nearly $1 trillion health bill.
The Mikulski amendment "makes clear, no matter what the Republicans
claim, that the decision whether or when to get a mammogram should be
left up to the patient and the doctor," said Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid, D-Nev. "That decision should not be made by some
bureaucrat, a member of Congress or someone they've never met."
However the amendment doesn't specifically address mammograms or spell
out what additional services would be covered, leaving that to the
discretion of the HHS secretary. The Congressional Budget Office said
the amendment would cost $940 million over a decade.
Last month, a government-appointed but independent panel of doctors
and scientists said women generally should begin routine mammograms in
their 50s, rather than their 40s. Then, in an apparent coincidence,
the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said most
women in their 20s can have a Pap test every two years _ instead of
annually _ to catch slow-growing cervical cancer.
Neither the task force, which provides advice to government officials
who may or may not act on it, nor the doctor's group sets federal
policy.
But the recommendations could not have come at a worse time for
majority Democrats, especially Senate leaders trying to hold together
the 60 votes required to advance the health care overhaul.
"We know that some in Washington have wanted government-run health
care for years. And it's hard to escape the conclusion that these same
people saw the current economic crisis as their moment," said Minority
Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "Earlier this year, some in the
administration said that a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.
Americans are hoping this bill isn't what they meant. But they're
concerned it is."
The legislative struggle is expected to last for weeks in a test that
pits GOP senators determined not to give ground against Senate
Democrats intent on delivering on Obama's signature issue.
Dozens of amendments are likely to be offered, with the measures
seemingly designed as much to court a skeptical public as to reshape
Reid's 2,074-page bill.
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that 31 million
uninsured individuals would receive insurance if the bill were
enacted, many of them assisted by federal subsidies. The legislation
would be paid for through a combination of cuts in projected Medicare
payments, a payroll tax on the wealthy and taxes on drug makers,
medical device manufacturers, owners of high-cost insurance and
others.
AnAmericanCitizen
Of course it will increase the cost of health care for seniors, some of whom are the
least that can afford it. Obama's first plan is to completely gut the present
Medicare Advantage Program and allow AARP to offer three programs each one increasing
in cost to seniors for various benefits (the reason AARP threw seniors under the bus
and soundly endorse Obama). We still don't know at this time what benefits will be
pricier, discontinued or more difficult to get.
In addition to seniors, anyone with elderly relatives and/or friends should be
fighting the good fight for them, keeping in mind they too will be seniors someday.
Make phone calls, send letters, faxes and emails to your Senators. Ask your friends
and relatives to do the same. This can all be stopped in the Senate.
E-mail: (http://www.senate.senator'slastname)
U.S. Mail: Senators by name at: Senate Office Building, Washington DC, 20510
Telephone: You may phone the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A
switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office you request.
.....AAC
Patriot Games
<NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Lemme see if I got this correct...
30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
will make healthcare MORE accessible?
80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
AnAmericanCitizen
>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>
>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>
>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
Tater Gumfries
> Snarling Weasel DemocRATs Caught Trying to Kill Off Seniors!
Never happen, phony soldier.
Tater
Patriot Games
<NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
Hahahahahaha!!
Yes, I miss President George Bush!
(They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
option!")
clams_casino
>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>>>
>>>
>>Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>>
>>
>
>Hahahahahaha!!
>
>Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>
>
>
Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
gains. Hardly ever paid such under GW.
GW knew how to reduce taxes - massive job loses, lower pay & minimal
stock gains.
Wildbilly
AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
That will be a cold day in Hell.
--
"When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist."
-Archbishop Helder Camara
http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
Wildbilly
> Miss George Bush yet?....UnAC
You mean that anal sphincter of a President, who paid for his vanity
wars with a credit card for our kids and grand kids to pay off? You mean
the CEO President, who turned his back on Katrina victims (Heck of a
job, Brownie.), and let lobbyists (not to mention Kenny boy) write his
legislation? The coke snorting drunk, who got by on his family's name,
and stole at least one election?
It still would be a very, cold day in Hell, before I miss that bum.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
> >wrote:
> >>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
> >><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>Lemme see if I got this correct...
> >>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
> >>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
> >>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
> >>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
> >Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>
> Hahahahahaha!!
>
> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>
> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
> option!")
You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
a CIA agent? Barf.
Patriot Games
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>>>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>>>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>>>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>>>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>>>Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>>Hahahahahaha!!
>>Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>gains.
You seriously think ANYBODY believes that, coming from a Proven Liar?
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:29:48 -0500, clams_casino
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Since you are obviously too challenged to do a simple search (as opposed
>to listening to Rush, Beck, etc), I'll try to keep this very simple:
>http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22287.html
>"While the media spotlight shines on federal income taxes each April,
>many Americans may be surprised to learn that federal income taxes make
>up only 26 percent of the nation's total tax bill. The remaining 74
>percent�nearly three-fourths of the U.S. economy's total tax burden�is
>comprised of the other federal, state and local taxes paid by American
>households every year."
YOU SAID: [The bottom 50% paid 3% of income taxes...] "and essentially
all the payroll tax with a significantly higher share of property,
sales & excise taxes."
Your CITE SHOWS: The highest income group paid 23-cents per tax dollar
to Federal Payroll taxes and the lowest income group paid 21-cents per
tax dollar to Federal Payroll taxes.
YOU LIED.
YOU SAID: [The bottom 50% paid 3% of income taxes...] "and essentially
all the payroll tax with a significantly higher share of property,
sales & excise taxes."
Your CITE SHOWS: The Total State and Local Taxes Averaged is $9,400
per taxpayer, with the LOWEST FOUR income groups paying $28,666
COMBINED and the SINGLE highest income groupo paying $24,421.
YOU LIED.
Patriot Games
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
Oops! Caught LYING!
Bush's BEST Month: 4.2% (Jan, Feb 2001)
Buckwheat's BEST Month: 8.1% (Feb 2009)
Buckwheat is 93% WORSE than Bush...
Bush's WORST Month: 7.2% (Dec 2008)
Buckwheat's WORST Month: 10.2% (Nov 2009)
Buckwheat is 42% WORSE than Bush...
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <7odlh51h7h5v5tdef...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>> >wrote:
>> >>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>> >><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>> >>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>> >>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>> >>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>> >>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>> >Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>> Hahahahahaha!!
>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
>> option!")
>You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
>a CIA agent? Barf.
From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
> AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>That will be a cold day in Hell.
From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
> AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Miss George Bush yet?....UnAC
clams_casino
>On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:06:51 -0500, clams_casino
><PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Patriot Games wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>>>><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>>>>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>>>>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>>>>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>>>>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Hahahahahaha!!
>>>Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>>>
>>>
>>Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>>gains.
>>
>>
>
>You seriously think ANYBODY believes that, coming from a Proven Liar?
>
>
>
Have you passed that 4th-grade remedial math course yet? Until you do,
kindly refrain from replying to any of my postings.
Thank you.
clams_casino
Are you a total moron or do you just play one on the internet?
Eight years under Bush = 22% decline in the Dow, 45% decline in NasDaq
and 37% in the S&P 500.
In less than 7 months, the Dow has recovered 25% in the Dow, 43% in the
NasDaq and 30% in the S&P 500 under Obama.
I can see where that fourth-grade remedial math class is real challenge
for you. Math is hard.
clams_casino
> Patriot Games wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:06:51 -0500, clams_casino
>> <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>>> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games
>>>>> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>>>>> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>>>>> 30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>>>>> will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>>>>> 80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>>>>> $500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush
>>>>> yet?....AAC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hahahahahaha!!
>>>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>>> gains. Hardly ever paid such under GW.
>>> GW knew how to reduce taxes
>>>
>>
>>
>> Oops! Caught LYING!
>>
>> Bush's BEST Month: 4.2% (Jan, Feb 2001)
>> Buckwheat's BEST Month: 8.1% (Feb 2009)
>> Buckwheat is 93% WORSE than Bush...
>>
>>
>
>
>> Bush's WORST Month: 7.2% (Dec 2008)
>> Buckwheat's WORST Month: 10.2% (Nov 2009)
>> Buckwheat is 42% WORSE than Bush...
>> http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
>>
>>
>>
>
> Are you a total moron or do you just play one on the internet?
>
> Eight years under Bush = 22% decline in the Dow, 45% decline in NasDaq
> and 37% in the S&P 500.
>
> In less than 7 months, the Dow has recovered 25% in the Dow, 43% in
> the NasDaq and 30% in the S&P 500 under Obama.
>
> I can see where that fourth-grade remedial math class is real
> challenge for you. Math is hard.
Oops - That should have been <11 months. I'm pointing that out since
you are so easily confused.
clams_casino
>>
>>Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>>gains. Hardly ever paid such under GW.
>>GW knew how to reduce taxes - massive job loses,
>>
>>
>
>Oops! Caught LYING!
>
>Bush's BEST Month: 4.2% (Jan, Feb 2001)
>Buckwheat's BEST Month: 8.1% (Feb 2009)
>Buckwheat is 93% WORSE than Bush...
>
>Bush's WORST Month: 7.2% (Dec 2008)
>Buckwheat's WORST Month: 10.2% (Nov 2009)
>Buckwheat is 42% WORSE than Bush...
>http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
>
>
According to your reference, the jobless rate increased by 90% under GW
(4% to 7.6%) and 34% under Obama (7.6% to 10.2%), where only you could
possibly believe the significant jump in the spring isn't a result of
the piss-poor GW policies / leadership.
As I said, GW decimated the economy with the end result being massive
job losses.
Of course.........math is hard - especially at your learning level.
ray
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
And lets not forget how these jobs got lost in the first place: the
housing crisis. You know, the one that was started by the CRA's Clinton
signed into law? Not that Republicans are blameless in that scam, but
to blame Bush alone for the falling economy is simply ridiculous.
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:29:34 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <7odlh51h7h5v5tdef...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, UnAmericanCitizen
> >> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, UnAmericanCitizen
> >> >><NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>Lemme see if I got this correct...
> >> >>30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
> >> >>will make healthcare MORE accessible?
> >> >>80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
> >> >>$500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
> >> >Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
> >> Hahahahahaha!!
> >> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
> >> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
> >> option!")
> >You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
> >a CIA agent? Barf.
>
> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
>
> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
Yes, ladies and gents, "Games" is the cranial-rectally inverted,
foul-mouthed shill of the insurance companies, telling you what to do.
Patriot Games is indeed what he is all about: games. The Elmer Gantry of
politics.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
-----
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that
all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are
equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to
see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality." -
George Washington
You remember George: "The Father of our Country".
http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2009/12/01/truth_of_christmas/index.
html
TUESDAY, DEC 1, 2009 17:02 PST
Republicans play Scrooge, minus the change of heart
The truth of Christmas -- rejoice and show mercy to the poor -- is
tested as we move toward universal healthcare
BY GARRISON KEILLOR
A new study, "Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults," published
by the American Journal of Public Health, tells us what everyone already
knows -- the uninsured are in a dangerous place. An estimated 45,000
deaths a year are associated with lack of health insurance. Uninsured
Americans of working age run a 40 percent higher risk of death than
those of us who are covered. If you have diabetes or heart disease, and
you can't afford to see a doctor, you're in deep trouble.
The big lie that Republicans have inflicted on us, starting with St.
Ronald, is that government is a morass of inefficiency, and private
enterprise is the Enlightenment. (Republicans have practically
disappeared from the Snow Belt. I just point this out.) My own
experience is that when I go to get a new driver's license in St. Paul,
or deal with the city inspector when a sewage line breaks, or walk into
a post office to mail letters, or talk to the police when our house
alarm goes off, I find public employees to be cheerful and competent and
highly professional, and when I go for blood draws at Quest Diagnostics,
a national for-profit chain of medical labs, I find myself in tiny,
dingy offices run by low-wage immigrant health workers who speak
incomprehensible English and are rude to customers and take forever to
do a routine procedure. An hour in a Quest office will ruin your whole
day.
If the government took over this miserable operation, paid the people
decently and trained them to smile and speak softly to the clientele,
civilization would be advanced. If we simply extended Medicare to anyone
who wished to sign up for it, the vast Kafkaesque bureaucracy of
for-profit insurance would come crashing down, and the public would be
healthier.
Instead, Democrats fashioned a patchwork plan, trying to meet the
objections of Republicans, who then opposed it anyway as socialistic. As
long as any sort of reform is going to be attacked as socialistic, why
not go ahead and be socialistic, just as Social Security is. It is Big
Government and runs pretty well, and I don't see many Republicans
calling for it to be privatized. Mr. Obama needs to learn that it is a
foolish goose who attends the foxes' church. Don't worry about
bipartisanship, please. Just do what's right.
------
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ad
xnnlx=1260115311-BiNi0TLyQYXqiL+fsJVFhg
December 4, 2009
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Reform or Else
By PAUL KRUGMAN
The Republican campaign against health care reform has rested in part on
the traditional arguments, arguments that go back to the days when
Ronald Reagan was trying to scare Americans into opposing Medicare --
denunciations of "socialized medicine," claims that universal health
coverage is the road to tyranny, etc.
But in the closing rounds of the health care fight, the G.O.P. has
focused more and more on an effort to demonize cost-control efforts. The
Senate bill would impose "draconian cuts" on Medicare, says Senator John
McCain, who proposed much deeper cuts just last year as part of his
presidential campaign. "If you're a senior and you're on Medicare, you
better be afraid of this bill," says Senator Tom Coburn.
If these tactics work, and health reform fails, think of the message
this would convey: It would signal that any effort to deal with the
biggest budget problem we face will be successfully played by political
opponents as an attack on older Americans. It would be a long time
before anyone was willing to take on the challenge again; remember that
after the failure of the Clinton effort, it was 16 years before the next
try at health reform.
That's why anyone who is truly concerned about fiscal policy should be
anxious to see health reform succeed. If it fails, the demagogues will
have won, and we probably won't deal with our biggest fiscal problem
until we're forced into action by a nasty debt crisis.
So to the centrists still sitting on the fence over health reform: If
you care about fiscal responsibility, you better be afraid of what will
happen if reform fails.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2009/12/01/truth_of_christmas/index.
html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ad
xnnlx=1260115311-BiNi0TLyQYXqiL+fsJVFhg
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2009/12/01/truth_of_christmas/index.
html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ad
xnnlx=1260115311-BiNi0TLyQYXqiL+fsJVFhg
Poetic Justice
> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:29:34 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
>> In article <7odlh51h7h5v5tdef...@4ax.com>,
>> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:50:22 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:04 -0500, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:09 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
>>>>> <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Lemme see if I got this correct...
>>>>> 30,000,000 NEW healthcare patients and ZERO new doctors. And that
>>>>> will make healthcare MORE accessible?
>>>>> 80,000,000 retiring baby boomers over the next 20 years and
>>>>> $500,000,000 cut in Medicare. And that will be BETTER for Seniors?
>>>> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>>> Hahahahahaha!!
>>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>>> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
>>> option!")
>> You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
>> a CIA agent? Barf.
Wildbilly
Poetic Justice <PoeticJustice@talk-n-dog...com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Libby
Irve[1] Lewis "Scooter" Libby (born August 22, 1950) was an Assistant to
the former President of the United States, George W. Bush and Chief of
Staff to the former Vice President, Dick Cheney, and Assistant to the
Vice President for National Security Affairs, serving from 2001 to 2005,
and is a convicted felon.[2][3][4]
Libby resigned all three government positions immediately after he was
indicted on federal charges of obstruction and perjury resulting from
the grand jury investigation into the leak of the covert identity of
Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame. In his trial for his
role in the Plame affair, United States v. Libby,[4][5] the jury
convicted Libby on four of the five counts in the indictment: one count
of obstruction of justice; two counts of perjury; and one count of
making false statements to federal investigators.[6]
The day after his conviction in that trial, he resigned his later
appointment as senior advisor at the Hudson Institute (January 1, 2006 �
March 7, 2007).[7][8]
Libby is the highest-ranking White House official convicted in a
government scandal since Henry Cisneros, Secretary of Housing and Urban
Development under Clinton pled guilty to one count of lying to the FBI.
Cisneros was eventually pardoned by Clinton.[9][10]
On June 5, 2007, the presiding trial judge, Reggie B. Walton, sentenced
Libby to 30 months in federal prison, a fine of $250,000, and two years
of supervised release, including 400 hours of community
service,[11][12][13][14] and then ordered Libby to begin his sentence
immediately.[15] On July 2, 2007, when Libby's appeal of Judge Walton's
order failed, President Bush commuted Libby's 30-month prison sentence,
leaving the other parts of his sentence intact.[16][17] In commuting
Libby's prison term, Bush stated: "I am commuting the portion of Mr.
Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison. ...
My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh
punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of
public service and professional work in the legal community is forever
damaged."[16] After Libby paid his monetary fine and penalty totaling
$250,400, Judge Walton queried aspects of the presidential
commutation,[14][18] and lawyers filed their briefs supporting Libby's
serving supervised release, resolving the issue and thus clearing the
way for Libby to begin the rest of his sentence, the two years of
supervised release and 400 hours of community service.[19][20]
------
Wat you got, Sport?
Oh, and I was born by American citizens at St. Joseph's Hospital, in
Orange, California, idiot.
Patriot Games
No thanks, I feel it my personal responsibility to alert people to
LIARS, like YOU.
Get used to it.
It will never end.
Patriot Games
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
YOU LIED.
Patriot Games
>Oops...
Oops! Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
YOU LIED.
Patriot Games
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>>>Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>>>gains. Hardly ever paid such under GW.
>>>GW knew how to reduce taxes - massive job loses,
>>Oops! Caught LYING!
>>Bush's BEST Month: 4.2% (Jan, Feb 2001)
>>Buckwheat's BEST Month: 8.1% (Feb 2009)
>>Buckwheat is 93% WORSE than Bush...
>>Bush's WORST Month: 7.2% (Dec 2008)
>>Buckwheat's WORST Month: 10.2% (Nov 2009)
>>Buckwheat is 42% WORSE than Bush...
>>http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
>According to your reference, the jobless rate increased by 90% under GW
>(4% to 7.6%)
Oops! Caught LYING, again.
4.2% to 7.6% = 81%
>and 34% under Obama (7.6% to 10.2%),
Oops! Caught LYING, again.
7.6 to 10.0 = 32%
Patriot Games
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>Patriot Games is...
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Patriot Games
As many as possible.
Buckwheat knows he can't destroy the CIA today without taking a
hollowpoint. So he trying to destroy the CIA tomorrow by killing
recruiting and morale today.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <gl9oh5lfnf5lg3h9n...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:02:04 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
>> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush yet?....AAC
>> >That will be a cold day in Hell.
>> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
>> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
>> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
YOU are an Aussie Faggot, and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <rl9oh51f237gclvkr...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:26:47 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
>> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> Miss George Bush yet?....UnAC
>> >You mean...
>> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
>> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
>> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Could we have a citation supporting that contention? I thought not.
>
> Buckwheat knows he can't destroy the CIA today without taking a
> hollowpoint. So he trying to destroy the CIA tomorrow by killing
> recruiting and morale today.
So you are a foul-mouth, homophobe, and racist who can't prove what he
says, our little ubermench. Now why don't you run along, and play in
traffic, cretin? You don't even respect George Washington.
Don't like government? Why don't you try Romania? Better yet, try
Somalia, no regulations, no government control. Heaven on Earth for you
neo-liberals.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
And you are a brown shirt, who can only be persuasive with intimidation.
You know what you want to know, and won't be persuaded by little things
like facts.
Unfortunately, you aren't alone.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021
502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR
washingtonpost.com > Opinions > Outlook
The Dumbing Of America
Call Me a Snob, but Really, We're a Nation of Dunces
By Susan Jacoby
Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01
"The mind of this country, taught to aim at low objects, eats upon
itself." Ralph Waldo Emerson offered that observation in 1837, but his
words echo with painful prescience in today's very different United
States. Americans are in serious intellectual trouble -- in danger of
losing our hard-won cultural capital to a virulent mixture of
anti-intellectualism, anti-rationalism and low expectations.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:20:07 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <rl9oh51f237gclvkr...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:26:47 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
> >> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> Miss George Bush yet?....UnAC
> >> >You mean...
> >> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> >> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
> >> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
> >> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
> >Yes, ladies and gents, "Games" is...
>
> Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
>
> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
As usual, you are wrong on all three counts. Don't you get tired of
being wrong and showing your brutish stupidity?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021
502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR
washingtonpost.com > Opinions > Outlook
The Dumbing Of America
Call Me a Snob, but Really, We're a Nation of Dunces
By Susan Jacoby
Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01
. . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:19:55 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <gl9oh5lfnf5lg3h9n...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:02:04 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
> >> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush
> >> >> yet?....AAC
> >> >That will be a cold day in Hell.
> >> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> >> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
> >> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
> >> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
> >Yes, ladies and gents, "Games" is...
>
> Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
>
> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
And you are a joke.
You can't find your own ass with both hands.
Look at the path bozo,
Path:
news.sonic.net!nnrp0.nntp.sonic.net!199.245.68.20.MISMATCH!spool0.nntp.so
nic.net!news-xfer.nntp.sonic.net!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!Xl.tags.g
iganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.d
ca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
See sonic.net? That's me. See giganews (Uncensored Newsgroups
Giganews provides access to over 109,000 uncensored newsgroups. You'll
be able to find all the information you're looking for without having to
worry about missing articles in your favorite groups.), that's you.
Can you google sonic.net? I didn't think so. It's in Santa Rosa,
California, moron.
The man with all the answers, has none.
'Nuff said.
Patriot Games
Patriot Games
YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
clams_casino
>
>
>YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>
>
>
And YOU are a total embarrassment for all Americans.
Ever pass that 4th-grade remedial math class?
Patriot Games
Oops! You FORGOT this:
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<wldbilly-69118C...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
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>The man with all the answers, has none.
>'Nuff said.
The LIAR AUSSIE FAGGOT is now BUSTED!
Hahahahahahaha!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <jnoqh51co3kke6n86...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:20:07 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <rl9oh51f237gclvkr...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:26:47 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
>> >> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> Miss George Bush yet?....UnAC
>> >> >You mean...
>> >> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> >> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
>> >> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
>> >> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
>> >Yes, ladies and gents, "Games" is...
>> Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
>> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>As usual, you are wrong on all three counts.
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:50:12 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
wrote:
>In article <kloqh513jc5nd2h8r...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:19:55 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <gl9oh5lfnf5lg3h9n...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:02:04 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >In article <ba0kh5h7h6rlm27ho...@4ax.com>,
>> >> > AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> Of course we all know the answer here is no. Miss George Bush
>> >> >> yet?....AAC
>> >> >That will be a cold day in Hell.
>> >> From: Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> >> Message-ID: <@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
>> >> 61.68.245.199 - Perth, Australia.
>> >> Don't concern yourself, Aussie Faggot, its none of your business.
>> >Yes, ladies and gents, "Games" is...
>> Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
>> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
You have no argument.
You have no information, just vacant eyes and a mirthless smile.
And you are a cretin.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that
all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are
equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to
see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
- George Washington
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
And you are a foul mouthed shill working for health insurance companies.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/september/harvard_study_finds_.php
Posted on September 17, 2009
Harvard study finds nearly 45,000 excess (American) deaths annually
linked to lack of health coverage.
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that
all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are
equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to
see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality." -
George Washington
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
And you are an ignorant "brown shirt" whose only gift is talking dirty
on the internet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021
502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR
The Dumbing Of America
By Susan Jacoby
Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01
. . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
And you have all the intellectual prowess of a parrot.
Wildbilly
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
And you are a waste of space.
So, how would you describe a curve when its' slope is zero?
Wildbilly
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
Sorry Casino, the previous post was for the "scoundrel".
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
Patriot Games
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>>YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>And YOU are a total embarrassment for all Americans.
And YOU are a Proven Liar:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:06:51 -0500, clams_casino
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Patriot Games wrote:
>>Yes, I miss President George Bush!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <wsuUm.90412$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad>,
> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> Patriot Games wrote:
>> >YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>> And YOU are a total embarrassment for all Americans.
>> Ever pass that 4th-grade remedial math class?
Learn how to use your Newsreader, DUMBASS!
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <58s4i595cu83gob3g...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>And you have all the intellectual prowess of a parrot.
True OR untrue it does NOT change the FACT that YOU are an Aussie
Faggot and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Let's recap:
1) You PROVED you're too STUPID to mind your own business.
2) You PROVED you're too STUPID to use a simple Newsreader.
I think I know why:
www.nationmaster.com
Average years of schooling of adults (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 12
#6 Australia: 10.9
Literacy > Adults at high literacy level (most recent) by country
#9 United States: 19%
#12 Australia: 17.4%
Universities > Top 10 (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 7
(Australia doesn't have ANY.)
Universities > Top 50 (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 20
#3 Australia: 6
Universities > Top 100 (most recent) by country
#1 United States: 31
#3 Australia: 12
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <uas4i5l5kbh9tp3qc...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>> >> >>>> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
>> >> >>>> option!")
>> >> >>> You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
>> >> >>> a CIA agent? Barf.
>> >> >How many is Obama "outing"
>> >> As many as possible.
>> >Could we have a citation supporting that contention? I thought not.
>> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>And you are an ignorant "brown shirt" whose only gift is talking dirty
>on the internet.
"Brown shirt?" What would YOU know about that? NOTHING.
YOUR involvement in World War II was NEVER in Europe and your ONLY
claim to fame was getting YOUR ASS WHOOPED by the Japs and Americans
had to come SAVE YOU at the Battle of the Coral Sea (May, 1942).
Hahahahhahahahaha!!!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <cfs4i5d11n8ts3rri...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> The LIAR AUSSIE FAGGOT is now BUSTED!
>> Hahahahahahaha!!!
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
UNSTOPPABLE.
Now that YOU have been BUSTED for PRETENDING to be an American look
forward to others using YOU as their PERSONAL TOILET!
Hahahahahhhha!!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <gat4i5hsheonmv3uv...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>You have no argument.
I don't need one.
>You have no information
You were BUSTED.
Case closed.
Game over.
clams_casino
Will someone please put this moron back into his cage?
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:00:44 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <gat4i5hsheonmv3uv...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >You have no argument.
>
> I don't need one.
>
> >You have no information
>
> You were BUSTED.
>
> Case closed.
>
> Game over.
http://motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <v128i5t88aofmp5gc...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:00:44 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <gat4i5hsheonmv3uv...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >You have no argument.
>> I don't need one.
>> >You have no information
>> You were BUSTED.
>> Case closed.
>> Game over.
>http://motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline
Your attempt to change the subject has FAILED.
Message-ID:
<wldbilly-69118C...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>
61.68.245.199 = Perth, Australia.
61.68.245.199 =
inetnum: 61.68.0.0 - 61.69.255.255
netname: AAPT
descr: AAPT Limited
descr: 180-188 Burnley Street
descr: Richmond VIC 3121
country: AU
phone: +61 3 8687 5770
fax-no: +61 3 8414 3115
http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Tools/whois.php
AAPT Limited = http://aapt.com.au/
The LIAR AUSSIE FAGGOT is now BUSTED!
Learn to like being BUSTED.
It will NEVER go away...
Patriot Games
Why do Pussy DemocRATS ALWAYS BEG others to do their work for them?
Hahahahahahahahahah!!!
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Polly want a cracker?
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
You are such a sack of crud, a true American bigot, appealing to the
worst in us.
If Obama had followed Clinton (with his budget surplus), instead of the
the disaster of the "Worst President Ever", his numbers would look much
better.
http://www.alternet.org/story/108863/america_out_of_work/
America Out of Work
By Marie Cocco, Washington Post Writers Group. Posted November 27, 2008.
Unemployment is soaring and it may be March before we feel the first
dollar
of an Obama recovery plan.
WASHINGTON -- There will be no freedom from want. The only thing we
might
now hope for is freedom from fear. Even that is a distant state of mind.
It is not just the wild fluctuations in the stock market, the
water-cooler
jokes about retirement accounts that are now 201(k)s. It is the
incomprehensible dithering of our current president through his
lame-duck
period, his bizarre refusal to give approval to any economic package
that
aided anyone or anything that is not a big bank or a Wall Street
financial
institution.
This delay may well be the scariest development of these frightening
times.
What are the reasons for President George W. Bush to have blocked the
post-election congressional effort to make a down payment on an
anti-recession program aimed at job-creation and sending money to the
squeezed states, which must balance their budgets while struggling with
ever-rising demand for basic services such as Medicaid and what remains
of
the program we used to call welfare? Bush has argued, at various times
in
the past few weeks, either that such a package isn't really necessary or
that it might be possible if it were tied to a long-term trade deal with
Colombia. The reasoning tortures the mind.
Besides inheriting an economic crisis of historic proportions,
President-elect Barack Obama must make up for the squandered time. But
at
the earliest, it is likely to be at least February or March before the
first
dollar of an Obama recovery plan is felt.
This is a national disgrace.
Consider, for example, that one of the leading indicators of poverty --
a
rise in the number of people eligible for food stamps -- climbed 10
percent
between August 2007 and August 2008. According to the Center on Budget
and
Policy Priorities, which studies the impact of federal policy on the
poor
and working class, one in five children already receives food stamps, a
rate
that is comparable to the recessions of the early 1980s and the 1990s.
Advocates for the poor are expecting that a record number of Americans
will
be receiving food stamps once new numbers are tallied over the coming
weeks.
And we aren't deep into this recession yet. Economists believe that
unemployment will climb to 8 percent or even 9 percent next year.
As it happens, right around the time we became politically enamored of
de-regulating whole industries -- and so prepared the ground for the
current
economic morass -- we also became politically obsessed with shrinking
the
social safety net. It was too generous, the thinking went, and had to be
made less so to encourage work and discourage dependency.
We are entering a recession the likes of which we haven't seen in about
three decades or perhaps longer. Since the last time the economy fared
so
poorly, changes in the unemployment compensation system, coupled with a
transformation of the labor force to include vastly more part-time and
low-wage workers, have left a majority of workers unprotected by this
basic
benefit. "Unemployment benefits cover a smaller set of workers than they
did
in the late 1970s and early 1980s," says Sharon Parrott, director of
welfare
reform and income support research at the Center on Budget and Policy
Priorities. Fewer than 40 percent of unemployed workers now are eligible
for
benefits.
And we haven't yet tested -- not on this scale anyway -- what really
happens
to the welfare-to-work system when there is no work.
Welfare revision was a signature cause of the 1990s, a centerpiece of
President Bill Clinton's drive to remake the Democratic Party's image
and a
relentless demand of congressional Republicans determined to dry up what
they considered wasteful social spending. Basic cash assistance to the
poorest families has shrunk substantially since the 1970s and 1980s. In
most
states, adults who have no children and are not disabled are ineligible
for
any aid. Single mothers who may have lost their jobs now have time
limits on
the number of months they can receive public assistance. To cope,
Parrott
says, "they'll double up, they'll live with friends, they'll move from
house
to house, which is very bad for kids."
We have lavished hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars on the
financial
masterminds whose collective genius has brought us these desperate
times.
Some of those taxes were paid by the now-unemployed workers who don't
qualify for benefits. Having socialized the financial system, there is
no
excuse now for failing to repair the social safety net.
Marie Cocco's e-mail address is mariecocco(at)washpost.com.
(c) 2008, Washington Post Writers Group
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
You didn't answer the question, Einstein. What is the significance of a
zero slope on a curve or are all you are good for is being a pork rind
eating bigot?
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> True OR untrue it does NOT change the FACT that YOU are an Aussie
> Faggot and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Wrong as usual ;O)
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/11/how-is-the-bailout-
going-henry-paulson.html
MotherJones.com / Commentary / Columns
How's That Bailout Going?
COMMENTARY: Henry Paulson's bank-rescue program was always a turkey of a
deal.
Nomi Prins
November 26 , 2008
Perhaps this is stating the obvious, but the big US bailout plan hasn't
worked so far. I don't just mean the $700 billion granted by Congress
through the Economic Emergency Stabilization Act on October 3. I mean
none of the related measures have worked, either.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson convinced Congress that the sky would
fall without a $700 billion cushion. The Fed has initiated a loan
program for troubled financial firms, spending trillions of dollars to
bail out any company that ever overleveraged anything, and it has
chopped interest rates in concert with its global central bank brethren.
And yet, the bloodbath continues. This week jobless claims clocked in at
a 16-year high--and these figures don't even include the 53,000 job cuts
announced by Citigroup, 3,000 by JPMorgan Chase, or up to 6,000 by Sun
Microsystems. Nor do they count the cuts that will come from the auto
industry, which will be in the tens of thousands if the Big Three
survive, and in the millions if they don't. Last week, the Department of
Labor announced that in October the US Consumer Price Index had staged
its biggest drop in 61 years.
Why are we still listening to painful debates about whether to fix the
bad decisions made by top corporate executives, rather than addressing
the people at the foundation of the economy?
Recently, Sheila Bair, chair of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation, deftly explained the very sensible idea of helping
homeowners in danger of foreclosure, as opposed to Paulson's idea of
injecting arbitrary amounts of money into banks. This isn't a
shot-in-the-dark solution Bair's offering; it's one that the FDIC has
made work in a very short period of time. The same period during which
Paulson's decisions have, well, not worked.
Bair wants private lenders to do what the FDIC has done successfully:
help distressed borrowers. Since the FDIC seized Pasadena-based IndyMac
in July, it's been able to reduce loan payments for some borrowers to 38
percent of their income by reducing interest rates, extending terms, or
deferring principal payments.
According to the FDIC, "IndyMac has sent out more than 23,000
modification letters to eligible borrowers and has completed more than
5,300 modifications..." With that kind of proven efficiency, Bair
proposed a similar $24 billion government-backed bailout program to be
used for homeowners more generally.
Paulson didn't warm to her approach.
Since the bailout package was signed into law in October, the global
economy has nose-dived. Maybe that wasn't Paulson's fault, but buying
equity in banks was his choice.
In mid November, members of Congress on both sides of the aisle were
incensed that Paulson flip-flopped on the original intent of his
Troubled Asset Relief Program, which was purchase toxic assets from
imperiled financial firms, deciding that injecting capital into troubled
banks was the best way to dethaw the frozen credit markets. The rest of
us can let that concern go. Buying junky assets would have been just as
ineffective as buying stock in the companies that processed the junk. On
October 28, the Treasury Department spent $125 billion to purchase
preferred shares in Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America,
JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, State Street, and Bank of New
York Mellon. Since then, shares in those firms have plummeted an average
of 55 percent. That makes the $125 billion investment worth about $69
billion right now.
The big lie was that this capital would go toward easing credit, but it
hasn't. Nor will it, for three reasons. First, with banks like Citigroup
trading at roughly 10 percent the price of McDonald's shares and
struggling for survival, they need to conserve all the capital they can.
Second, as long as there is uncertainty among banks as to what kinds of
losses lurk within their books, there will be no true credit flow in the
industry. And third, consumers will always come dead last on their list
of priorities.
But as the nation turns to the next bailout question, whether to come to
the rescue of the auto industry, we've got to ask if capital injections
or loans are the best way to go. Perhaps the leaders of the Big Three
need what the finance industry needs: a Sheila Bair-style solution.
The problem with automakers is their lack of operating cash, not
withstanding the group CEO trip to DC to ask for $25 billion more of it.
Simply providing cash will only prolong the problem. If Bair's plan can
convert 5,300 loans to manageable assets rather than declining ones, and
keep people in their homes, maybe a similar program could help GM, Ford,
and Chrysler. Say the FDIC took these firms over. A comparable plan
could negotiate affordable loans (since banks are sitting on their
money) for consumers to purchase auto inventory with appropriate
incentives, like upgradeability to energy-friendly cars as they get
produced. A sustainable program providing ongoing cash infusion through
inventory movement while reducing leverage could have a shot.
But even that might be too late. The fact that their cars weren't
selling (first because the companies weren't forward thinking, and then
because consumer throttle back on big ticket purchases in general) has
created a potentially irrevocable cash shortage. There are those who
blame this on pension and health care programs. But GM had $17 billion
pension surplus at the end of 2006. Ford recorded a one-time $2.2
billion accounting gain on health care expenses this quarter. So really,
it's the income shortfall that's the bigger problem.
Maybe it's wishful thinking, but it would be a good idea to get Bair's
advice on this. She seems to be on the right track.
Photo from flickr user The Joy of The Mundane used under a Creative
Commons license.
Nomi Prins is a reformed Wall Streeter and a frequent Mother Jones
contributor.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Humorless, foul-mouthed bigots, the wave of the future?
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:19:57 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <uas4i5l5kbh9tp3qc...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
> >> >> >>>> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
> >> >> >>>> option!")
> >> >> >>> You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
> >> >> >>> a CIA agent? Barf.
> >> >> >How many is Obama "outing"
> >> >> As many as possible.
> >> >Could we have a citation supporting that contention? I thought not.
> >> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
> >And you are an ignorant "brown shirt" whose only gift is talking dirty
> >on the internet.
>
> "Brown shirt?" What would YOU know about that? NOTHING.
>
> YOUR involvement in World War II was NEVER in Europe and your ONLY
> claim to fame was getting YOUR ASS WHOOPED by the Japs and Americans
> had to come SAVE YOU at the Battle of the Coral Sea (May, 1942).
>
> Hahahahhahahahaha!!!
So this is what the Republicans give us, ignorant and offensive bigots,
who insult citizens and allies alike.
"Brown Shirts" (stormtroopers), bozo, were Hitler's thugs, until he
mulched them in favor of the more lethal Schutzstaffel (SS).
Only the mirthless laughter is the same.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:08:21 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <cfs4i5d11n8ts3rri...@4ax.com>,
> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> The LIAR AUSSIE FAGGOT is now BUSTED!
> >> Hahahahahahaha!!!
> >> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
> >And you are...
>
> UNSTOPPABLE.
>
> Now that YOU have been BUSTED for PRETENDING to be an American look
> forward to others using YOU as their PERSONAL TOILET!
>
> Hahahahahhhha!!
Republican politics at its' best.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/17/ex_asst_treasury_sec_paul_craig
October 17, 2008
Ex-Asst. Treasury Sec. Paul Craig Roberts on Wall St. Bailout: "Has
Deregulation Sired Fascism?"
Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury
Department in the Reagan administration and a former associate editor of
the Wall Street Journal. He has taught at Georgetown University and
Stanford University and is the author of many books, including
Supply-Side Revolution: An Insider's Account of Policymaking in
Washington.
JUAN GONZALEZ: What about this issue of the government's bailout being
aimed primarily at the financial institutions rather than the homeowners
who--and the defaults that are at the root of the crisis?
PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS: Yes. Well, it suggests that the bailout is either
incompetence or fraud, because the problem, according to the government,
is the defaulting mortgages, so the money should be directed at
refinancing the mortgages and paying off the foreclosed ones. And that
would restore the value of the mortgage-backed securities that are
threatening the financial institutions. If the value was restored, the
crisis would be over. So there's no connection between the government's
explanation of the crisis and its solution to the crisis.
October 17, 2008
October 17, 2008
October 17, 2008
clams_casino
>In article <lb18i5hmf979919ks...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>True OR untrue it does NOT change the FACT that YOU are an Aussie
>>Faggot and America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>>
>>
>
>Wrong as usual ;O)
>
>
>
Facts are of no concern for this troll.
No one could be as ignorant as he portrays on the internet.
Just kill file him.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <h718i5ljep95oe6m0...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:28:04 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <wsuUm.90412$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad>,
>> > clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> >> Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> >YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>> >> And YOU are a total embarrassment for all Americans.
>> >> Ever pass that 4th-grade remedial math class?
>> >Sorry Casino, the previous post...
>> Learn how to use your Newsreader, DUMBASS!
>> Hahahahahahahaha!!!
I lecture Aussie Faggots (when I'm not whopping their sorry dumb ass)
and I do NOT answer questions from Aussie Faggots.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <7418i5tha6sf35240...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:30:26 -0500, clams_casino
>> <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> >Patriot Games wrote:
>> >>YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>> >And YOU are a total embarrassment for all Americans.
>> And YOU are a Proven Liar:
>> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:06:51 -0500, clams_casino
>> <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> >Patriot Games wrote:
>> >>Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>> >Big problem this year is that I will have taxes on stock capital
>> >gains. Hardly ever paid such under GW.
>> >GW knew how to reduce taxes - massive job loses,
>> Oops! Caught LYING!
>> Bush's BEST Month: 4.2% (Jan, Feb 2001)
>> Buckwheat's BEST Month: 8.1% (Feb 2009)
>> Buckwheat is 93% WORSE than Bush...
>> Bush's WORST Month: 7.2% (Dec 2008)
>> Buckwheat's WORST Month: 10.2% (Nov 2009)
>> Buckwheat is 42% WORSE than Bush...
>> http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&s
>> eries_id=LNS14000000
Go fuck yourself, Aussie Faggot.
>If Obama....
Don't concern your Aussie Faggot, its none of your business Aussie
Faggot.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <il18i59qi7ovc8mmg...@4ax.com>,
> Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:19:57 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
>> wrote:
>> >In article <uas4i5l5kbh9tp3qc...@4ax.com>,
>> > Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> Yes, I miss President George Bush!
>> >> >> >>>> (They're trying to draft Cheney for 2012! Now THAT IS the "nuclear
>> >> >> >>>> option!")
>> >> >> >>> You mean Big Dick Cheney, who's personal assistant "outed"
>> >> >> >>> a CIA agent? Barf.
>> >> >> >How many is Obama "outing"
>> >> >> As many as possible.
>> >> >Could we have a citation supporting that contention? I thought not.
>> >> YOU are an Aussie Faggot, America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>> >And you are an ignorant "brown shirt" whose only gift is talking dirty
>> >on the internet.
>> "Brown shirt?" What would YOU know about that? NOTHING.
>> YOUR involvement in World War II was NEVER in Europe and your ONLY
>> claim to fame was getting YOUR ASS WHOOPED by the Japs and Americans
>> had to come SAVE YOU at the Battle of the Coral Sea (May, 1942).
>> Hahahahhahahahaha!!!
We give you our laundry and you do our laundry.
In Iraq we let you dig our latrines.
In Afghanistan we let you wash our cock & balls.
Austalians are SHIT descended from Europe's discarded SHIT.
Go fuck yourself.
Patriot Games
Aussie want Aboriginigger dick to suck?
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
So you don't like the truth, people of color, gays, Australians, or
people smarter than yourself. How are you with gypsies, and Slaves?
You know, you are sounding a lot like the people we fought in WWII.
You fascist, foul-mouthed "Brown Shirts" are back again? What do you
call yourselves these days? Republicans?
Sounds like its' time to give you Nazis another good ass kicking.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712
The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy
of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz,
sees a generation-long struggle to recoup.
by Joseph E. Stiglitz December 2007
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Is that what you bigoted, foul-mouthed, Nazi Republicans think about?
There are financially conservative Republicans too, you know, but they
don't want anything to do with your "Brown Shirt" ways.
How do you fell about Jews, dumb-shit?
Patriot Games
hahahahhaha!!!
>There are financially conservative Republicans too, you know, but they
>don't want anything to do with your "Brown Shirt" ways.
American Republicans are none of your Aboriginigger business.
>How do you fell about Jews, dumb-shit?
I never felt a Jew. I have always assumed they feel the same as
anyone else.
But I've seen pictures of you Aboriginiggers and I'm sure you feel
'scratchy."
Patriot Games
You wouldn't the Truth if he pulled his dick outta your ass and
slapped you with it.
>people of color,
I like people of color, just not niggers or criminal beaners.
>gays,
Got no use for them.
>Australians,
Nobody has any use for them.
>or people smarter than yourself.
I wouldn't know, since there aren't any.
>How are you with gypsies,
Never met one.
>and Slaves?
See "Australians" above.
>You know, you are sounding a lot like the people we fought in WWII.
You mean the Japs who whooped your ass?
Hahahahahah!!
>What do you call yourselves these days? Republicans?
Its none of your business, Aussie Faggot.
>Sounds like its' time to give you Nazis another good ass kicking.
Australians have NEVER kicked ANYONE's ass, EVER.
clams_casino
>
>
>You wouldn't the Truth if he pulled his dick outta my ass and
>slapped you with it.
>
So the redneck with the 4th-grade education is gay.
Who would have guessed. Makes much sense.
clams_casino
>
>
>I never felt a Jew. I have always assumed they feel the same as
>anyone else.
>
>
>
>
Just like little boys, eh? Were you born in kentucky?
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Nazis, especially American Nazis, and "brown shirts" like you, are
everybody's business. Real Americans don't like your kind.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
I meant the decent people of the world.
It's time to give you Nazis and your yellow dog Republicans another good
ass kicking.
Wildbilly
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
No reason to besmirch the reputations of forth graders, gays or red
necks. This is just another impotent guy, whose only hope for
importance, is that he is white. He doesn't want to compete against
people of color, gays, or women, because he knows he is incompetent.
He doesn't know how to make a case or an argument. He only knows
invectives and ad hominems. Not the kind of person that any employer
would want.
Patriot Games
Why would ANYONE waste their time replying to someone WHO EDITS THIER
WORDS?
You exist now only as my personal toilet:
'clams casino' is MALICIOUS, UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Don't believe ANYTHING the Faggot 'clams casino' posts.
My ORIGINAL Message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/593da9b04e25904b?hl=en
From: Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:23:17 -0500
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:41:57 -0800, Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net>
wrote:
>So you don't like the truth
You wouldn't the Truth if he pulled his dick outta your ass and
slapped you with it.
Maliciously EDITED by Faggot 'clams casino'
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/e361d8bece9008aa?hl=en
Patriot Games wrote:
>You wouldn't the Truth if he pulled his dick outta my ass and
>slapped you with it.
'clams casino' is MALICIOUS, UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Don't believe ANYTHING that 'clams casino' posts.
Best thing you could do is KILLFILE the MALICIOUS LIAR 'clams casino'.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In article <i%VVm.23093$y%5.2...@newsfe03.iad>,
> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> Patriot Games wrote:
>This is just another impotent guy, whose only hope for
>importance, is that he is white. He doesn't want to compete against
>people of color, gays, or women, because he knows he is incompetent.
>He doesn't know how to make a case or an argument. He only knows
>invectives and ad hominems. Not the kind of person that any employer
>would want.
hahahahahahahah!!
Poor stupid Aboriginigger...
I was the employer.
Now I'm retired...
Poor stupid Aboriginigger, try again...
Patriot Games
Just like an Australian Faggot, ASKING OTHERS to do their work for
them...
Go ahead and fuck off now...
Patriot Games
Sucks to be you, as a PROVEN LIAR you will now be IGNORED by most...
As a Malicious Poster you will now be IGNORED by even more...
(And it will never end...)
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:29:48 -0500, clams_casino
<PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Since you are obviously too challenged to do a simple search (as opposed
>to listening to Rush, Beck, etc), I'll try to keep this very simple:
>http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22287.html
>"While the media spotlight shines on federal income taxes each April,
>many Americans may be surprised to learn that federal income taxes make
>up only 26 percent of the nation's total tax bill. The remaining 74
>percent�nearly three-fourths of the U.S. economy's total tax burden�is
>comprised of the other federal, state and local taxes paid by American
>households every year."
YOU SAID: [The bottom 50% paid 3% of income taxes...] "and essentially
all the payroll tax with a significantly higher share of property,
sales & excise taxes."
Your CITE SHOWS: The highest income group paid 23-cents per tax dollar
to Federal Payroll taxes and the lowest income group paid 21-cents per
tax dollar to Federal Payroll taxes.
YOU LIED.
YOU SAID: [The bottom 50% paid 3% of income taxes...] "and essentially
all the payroll tax with a significantly higher share of property,
sales & excise taxes."
Your CITE SHOWS: The Total State and Local Taxes Averaged is $9,400
per taxpayer, with the LOWEST FOUR income groups paying $28,666
COMBINED and the SINGLE highest income groupo paying $24,421.
YOU LIED.
Patriot Games
Since YOU aren't one YOU would have NO CLUE.
Hahahahahahaha!!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
You smokin' crack, Gamy?
http://www.demos.org/inequality/ByNumbersMay31.pdf
By the Numbers
The latest and fullest data on income, wealth, CEO pay, etc.
Compiled by Chris Hartman.
Income
The top one percent of households received 21.8 percent of all pre-tax
income in 2005, more
than double what that figure was in the 1970s. (The top one percent�s
share of total income
bottomed out at 8.9 percent in 1976.) This is the greatest concentration
of income since 1928,
when 23.9 percent of all income went to the richest one percent.
(Piketty and Saez)
The above figures include capital gains, which are strongly affected by
the ups and downs of the
financial markets. Excluding capital gains, the richest one percent
claimed 17.4 percent of all
pre-tax income in 2005, more than double what that figure was in the
1970s. (It bottomed out at
7.8 percent in 1973.) This is the greatest concentration of income since
1936, when the richest
one percent received 17.6 percent of total income. (Piketty and Saez)
Between 1979 and 2005, the top five percent of American families saw
their real incomes
increase 81 percent. Over the same period, the lowest-income fifth saw
their real incomes decline
1 percent. (Census Bureau)
In 1979, the average income of the top 5 percent of families was 11.4
times as large as the
average income of the bottom 20 percent. In 2005, the ratio was 20.9
times. (EPI, State of
Working America 2006-07, Figure 1J)
All of the income gains in 2005 went to the top 10 percent of
households, while the bottom 90
percent of households saw income declines. (EPI Snapshot, March 28, 2007)
Unprecedented levels of capital income are fueling inequality in the
current business cycle. In
the third quarter of 2006, the share of corporate income going to
capital (profits and interest) hit
an all-time high of 23 percent, with the remaining 77 percent going to
employee compensation.
Since capital income disproportionately goes to the top of the income
scale, this shift towards
capital income increases the income gap. (EPI Snapshot, Jan. 17, 2007)
-----
And this doesn't even get into the fact that working people pay 30% -35%
on their income, whereas rich people only pay 15% capital gains.
Sheesh, your dumber than dirt.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
You're so stupid, Gamy, you probably even think that there is a remote
chance that that might happen. But we Americans have already shown that
we don't like brown shirted, fascist bigots like you. We kicked your
asses once and we can do it again.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:39:46 -0500, clams_casino
> <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> >Patriot Games wrote:
> >>You wouldn't the Truth if he pulled his dick outta my ass and
> >>slapped you with it.
> >So the redneck with the 4th-grade education is gay.
> >Who would have guessed. Makes much sense.
>
> Why would ANYONE waste their time replying to someone WHO EDITS THIER
> WORDS?
>
> You exist now only as my personal toilet:
>
> 'clams casino' is MALICIOUS, UNTRUSTWORTHY.
>
> Don't believe ANYTHING the Faggot 'clams casino' posts.
If anyone wants to follow an ignorant, brown shirted, Nazi bigot, here's
your chance.
Gamy, is long on invectives, but pitifully short on facts but then he is
proud of his ignorance.
The Dumbing Of America
By Susan Jacoby
Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01
. . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
Ah, so you are one of the blood suckers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/28/business/28wages.html
August 28, 2006
Real Wages Fail to Match a Rise in Productivity
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE and DAVID LEONHARDT
With the economy beginning to slow, the current expansion has a chance
to become the first sustained period of economic growth since World War
II that fails to offer a prolonged increase in real wages for most
workers.
The median hourly wage for American workers has declined 2 percent since
2003, after factoring in inflation. The drop has been especially
notable, economists say, because productivity -- the amount that an
average worker produces in an hour and the basic wellspring of a
nation's living standards -- has risen steadily over the same period.
As a result, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of the
nation's gross domestic product since the government began recording the
data in 1947, while corporate profits have climbed to their highest
share since the 1960's. UBS, the investment bank, recently described the
current period as "the golden era of profitability."
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Don't get too comfortable, Gamy. You and your blood sucking buddies will
still have some dues to pay.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
Wildbilly
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
As if a real American would let a Nazi get away. Your real name is
Shickelgruber, isn't it?
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson