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Russia's Putin may well be a party to the hijacking of British soldiers, by the Iranian "government" - Re: (The) Criminal Minds (of Iran) ONLY WANT and ENJOY to do Evil {HRI Note 20070330}

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Koos Nolst Trenite

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With data just in from the news services,

it seems, that Russia's Putin (being a Criminal Mind himself) is
in on (is part of) the hijacking of British soldiers on duty, by
the Iranian "government."

A suggestion worth investigating.

It even looks like Russia's Putin may have ORIGINATED or pre-approved
the hijacking action by the Iranian Islamic "military" and propaganda
machine, obviously promising them his "international," "objective"
support.

'

DO NOT JUST LOOK WHERE THE ENEMY WANTS (where Criminal Minds want)
THAT YOU LOOK (others will do that already for you),

but look wider, much wider - there, where you should look.

- KNT hrp&p

'

AP News service:

"Iranian official (says for MOSCOW TV, that [it is not a pirating and
hijacking action by the Iranian government, BUT, "it is"] ):

'British Sailors may be tried in court in Iran'"

TEHRAN, Iran -
"Iran's ambassador to Russia renewed a threat Iranian officials
made earlier this week, saying 15 British sailors held by Iran
could be tried for violating international law, Iran's state
news agency IRNA reported Saturday."

"Gholam-Reza Ansari told Russian television Friday that Iran had
launched a legal investigation of the British sailors and said:
"They will be tried if there is enough evidence of guilt," IRNA
reported on its Web site."

'

'

On Mar 31, 8:59 am, "Leonardo Been" <leonardo_b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You are certainly right, that it is very Evil, to create disturbances
> and on top of that, it is very Evil, that some do so in order to
> drive up the price of oil.
>
> KNT hrp&p
>
> ________________________________________________
> On Mar 30, 11:50 am, Domingol...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > No te pongas trascendente, tio, que aqu=ED de lo que se trata es,
> > especialmente, de que suba el precio del barril de petroleo.
> > Ya lo est=E1 haciendo. Se benefician los curas persas y las
> > cias. petrol=EDferas.
> > Todo lo dem=E1s est=E1 muy bi=E9n, y estoy de acuerdo.
>
> ______________
> in response to:
>
> (The) Criminal Minds (of, in this case, Iran's "government") ONLY WANT
> and ENJOY to do Evil.
>
> '
>
> BUT - as you have seen so many times -
>
> Criminal Minds (and their followers, the Destructive Cowards or
> "Peace Activists") do lie about their motives, and want Crimes
> not looked at, and
>
> they accuse you - they accuse ANY sane and caring person, you - that
>
> "YOU are 'MAKING them (do) Evil' IF YOU POINT OUT THEY ARE EVIL."
>
> '
>
> (Britain's) Blair can not face that, (America's) Bush literally
> stopped facing that since he met (China's) Hu Jintao
>
> - so you will have to face that (and any evil) that they do NOT face.
>
> - KNT hrp&p {HRI Note 20070330}


Rights Of Criminal Minds

8 January 2004
{HRI 20040108-V1.0.1}

(Version 1.0.1
on 12 Nov 2005)

'

1=2E Criminal Minds have the right to be looked at.
*(1),*(2),*(3),*(4)

'

2=2E Criminal Minds have the right to be exposed. *(5),*(6),*(7),*(8)

'

These are kind (nice, friendly, caring) things to do to
a Criminal Mind.

On the other hand, to NOT look at him or her and to NOT
expose him or her, is a very mean thing to do to a
Criminal Mind.

They ARE that mean, intentionally that mean, to
each other (and to themselves too);

they do so in order to deliberately let others be
more evil, to thereby deliberately let others
degrade themselves even further by doing more evil,
and

they do so by intending neither to expose nor to
stop the evil activities of other Criminal Minds.

This then gives them as well their desired feeling
of 'looking down' on other Criminal Minds.

'

3=2E Criminal Minds have the right not to be hated by normal people.

'

You can however not demand or ask of other Criminal Minds
not to hate them, because that's what Criminal Minds do,
they are always Hating:

They are Hating, and hiding that they are Hating,
and they are sometimes pretending to care in order
to camouflage and so exert the control in order to
Hate in a hidden manner. *(9)

So, telling Criminal Minds not to Hate, is as useless as
telling a pig not to eat -

he (or she) won't be able to follow your request
and he (or she) will only pretend to comply,
pretending it

by deceiving you and others, by creating a
pretended personality as himself or as herself,
that he or she even believes in,
*(3),*(10),*(16)

by preventing you from seeing or from
understanding his or her activities of Hating.
*(6)
'

Normal people should not Hate Criminal Minds,

no matter how much a Criminal Mind begs or goads (teases)
normal people into being Hateful as well - even to the
Criminal Mind -

that is, a Criminal Mind will try to get normal
people into radiating Hate as well, into being for
some time like a Criminal Mind, and even into a
state of wanting to destroy a Criminal Mind further.
*(11)

'

4=2E Criminal Minds must not be in a position where other people or
children are forced or asked to depend on some of the judgments
of a Criminal Mind about them or to have to somehow follow the
directions of a Criminal Mind, or the directions from Destructive
Cowards who are the underlings of a Criminal Mind. *(12)

'

5=2E Criminal Minds may be asked to leave a location.

That may be necessary in order to protect others, or to
maintain somewhere an atmosphere of understanding and
perception necessary for

(sometimes even the basic needs such as food and
shelter and communication and decency, of)

life to restore and grow and be healthy and joyful.
*(13),*(14),*(15)


Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet

'All the kings of the earth
sought audience with Solomon
to hear the wisdom
God had put in his heart.'

2 Chronicles 9:23

_________
Footnotes (Updated on 12 Nov 2005):

[ see however:
'Checklist of Human Rights Issues up to 17 March 2007 and
since 11 Feb 2007'
{HRI update list 20070317 since 20070211}
(17 March 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/73f43e03f0ce04a8
]

(1) 'Fine Particle Physics To Understand Psychosis'
{HRI 20030227-V2.2} (27 Feb 2003 - Version 2.2 on 23 Jan 2005)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.med/msg/a3940363702cebcf

(2) 'The Trinity Of Science - Truth, Love and Beauty (Version 2.1)
{HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1}' (7 March 2003 - V2.1 on 17 Oct 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840e

(3) 'Criminal Minds ENJOY LYING, And THEY Know They Intentionally
Lie'
{HRI 20050527-V3.5} (27 May 2005 - Version 3.5 on 10 June 2005)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/human-rights-issues/msg/ecc4b12aaae92dcf

(4) 'On Those Who Want Awareness Not Understood' {HRI 20030416-V1.0}
(16 April 2003 - Version 1.0)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/640e381f8fc938c0

(5) 'Detecting Criminal Minds By Their Intentional Omission Of Vital
Truth' {HRI 20020819-V2.2.3}
(19 August 2002 - Version 2.2.3 on 12 May 2005)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/53a97b173ef36240

(6) 'Standard Behavior Of Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030509-V3.1}
(9 May 2003 - Version 3.1 on 2 Dec 2004)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.fine/msg/a83e5c14a4cbf0b3?fcw=3D1

(7) 'Understanding Eternal Criminally Minded Individuals'
{HRI 20031124} (24 November 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/9c378e7f32b5b016

(8) 'Two More Tools To Detect Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030716}
(16 July 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/7585a3f78ab01b75

(9) 'Defining Love And Hate - A Law Of Life' V2.0i
(29 July 2002 - Version 2.0i on 7 January 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/40d2a6d4cadc84b1

(10) 'Theory Of Repairing Criminal Minds' (13 Dec 2002)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/fb5a1b66=
a55476cd

(11) 'Definition Of Schizophrenic' {HR 20021125} (25 Nov 2002)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.psychology.misc/msg/f34d97fee2a0b84d

(12) 'The First International Law' (Version 2.0) {HRI 20021124-V2.0}
(24 November 2002 - Version 2.0 on 23 Sept 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/e6fd1197b1678b70

(13) 'Understanding Of Those Who Harm Life
- Criminal Minds Radiate Lies' {HRI 20030611-II}
(11 June 2003)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/9973dabee57b8edf

(14) 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies
- As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds'
{HRI 20030611} (11 June 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/782f862bb3548129

(15) (nn) 'Not WHY Is There Suffering, But WHO Causes It - Is The
Question'
{HRI 20030610} (10 June 2003)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.usa/msg/216b68d8105d28ba

(16) 'Genuine Art - Producing It, Recognizing It' {HRI 20021220}
(20 Dec 2002)
http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/dc1388ffc08294fb
'

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Chief

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"Koos Nolst Trenite" <Ambassador...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> With data just in from the news services,
>
> it seems, that Russia's Putin (being a Criminal Mind himself) is
> in on (is part of) the hijacking of British soldiers on duty, by
> the Iranian "government."
>
> A suggestion worth investigating.


Not unless you've spoken with my personal contacts within the Romulan Guard, who
at this very moment, have ships hiding behind the moon, ready to strike the
earth at my command.

Duncan Patton

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Koos Nolst Trenite is incapable of wanking.

Dhu

Robbie

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Blimey, this bloke is not only involved in killing off people in London
by poisoning their sushi, he now organises hijackings of British sailors!

He must have long tentacles indeed...

--
Robbie

Chief

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"Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Koos Nolst Trenite wrote:
>
> Blimey, this bloke is not only involved in killing off people in London by
> poisoning their sushi, he now organises hijackings of British sailors!
>
> He must have long tentacles indeed...

I'm still somewhat dubious about the recent revelation and confession by Khalid
Shaikh Mohammed regarding the recent pet food poison affair, in addition to his
planning of the WTC attacks, the 1993 Jack In The Box E. coli bacteria scandal
and the assassination of actor Robert Blake's wife.

The jury is still out when it comes to confessions under duress.


Lee

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"Koos Nolst Trenite" <Ambassador...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> With data just in from the news services,
>
> it seems, that Russia's Putin (being a Criminal Mind himself) is
> in on (is part of) the hijacking of British soldiers on duty, by
> the Iranian "government."
>
> A suggestion worth investigating.
>

Nope, Ahmadinejad's a stereotypical raghead, he was involved in the Iran
hostage crisis, he is wanted for murder in Austria and he is also a
holocaust denier.

The man is a loose cannon and it has been said that the mad mullahs who are
ultimatly in charge (praise be to bullshine) have kept him out of the
hostage situation at a public level to prevent further escalation of the
this impasse.

Hopefully the Iranian people will realise that they have a complete
goat-humper for a president and depose him soon before he sullies their
countries reputation any further.

Lee

Peter Worth

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"Lee" <me@localhost> wrote

> Hopefully the Iranian people will realise that they have a complete
> goat-humper for a president and depose him soon before he sullies their
> countries reputation any further.
>


Good point. The Iranians who I've met are OK, good folks (and I've heard that
from other sources as well). It's said that the governments ambitions or style
isn't representative of the populace.

Their a highly educated people by developed world standards, English is spoken
there. They're not a bunch of stinking, ignorant rag heads who show up at
government organized protests and burn American flags shouting gibberish.

Lee

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"Peter Worth" <pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On the other hand Iran groups have been turning up outside the Iran embassy
in London protesting very loudly about the present regime in their country.
Media censorship though is a powerful thing and well exploited by the crazy
ragheads running that country at present.

Lee


Peter Worth

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"Lee" <me@localhost> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter Worth" <pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote

>> Their a highly educated people by developed world standards, English is
>> spoken there. They're not a bunch of stinking, ignorant rag heads who show
>> up at government organized protests and burn American flags shouting
>> gibberish.
>>
>>
>>
>
> On the other hand Iran groups have been turning up outside the Iran embassy in
> London protesting very loudly about the present regime in their country. Media
> censorship though is a powerful thing and well exploited by the crazy ragheads
> running that country at present.

Not really representative of the people though.

I recall when a bunch of looney tunes showed up in front of the US Consulate in
Toronto, protesting something or another, tossed Molotov Cocktails at the
building and a hand full of rabble rousers were arrested and found to be
carrying bottles of gasoline (with wicks) in their pockets.

It wasn't representative of the ethnic group over all, in fact it was shouted
down by the community leaders as being irresponsible and dumbass (my word)
actions.

Peter Worth

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"Peter Worth" <pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote in message
> news:460e986e$1$21849$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>> "Peter Worth" <pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Their a highly educated people by developed world standards, English is
>>> spoken there. They're not a bunch of stinking, ignorant rag heads who show
>>> up at government organized protests and burn American flags shouting
>>> gibberish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> On the other hand Iran groups have been turning up outside the Iran embassy
>> in London protesting very loudly about the present regime in their country.
>> Media censorship though is a powerful thing and well exploited by the crazy
>> ragheads running that country at present.
>
> Not really representative of the people though.

My respective correction, it *is* representative of the people. Most likely.


Lee

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"Peter Worth" <pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I don't know the numbers in Iran, but usually with dictatorships there is a
nutter at the helm (Hitler, pol pot, idi amin) once the 'nutter' is removed
the population tend to get on with their lives and try to forget that part
of their history. It is difficult to dislike moderate Iran people that speak
on the news and writing them off because of their crazy splintered
Government seems wrong.

The militant talk about invading the country which can be great fun if you
are in your 20's with a free assault rifle and unlimited ammo. But there is
always debts to be paid after the fireworks.

Nipping a dictatorship in the bud either politically or by killing the
leaders seems a far more cost effective way of doing things. It also is less
traumatic for everyone else involved.
Appeasement though is the most dangerous route to go.

Lee

Chief

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"Lee" <me@localhost> wrote

> I don't know the numbers in Iran, but usually with dictatorships there is a
> nutter at the helm (Hitler, pol pot, idi amin) once the 'nutter' is removed
> the population tend to get on with their lives and try to forget that part of
> their history. It is difficult to dislike moderate Iran people that speak on
> the news and writing them off because of their crazy splintered Government
> seems wrong.
>
> The militant talk about invading the country which can be great fun if you are
> in your 20's with a free assault rifle and unlimited ammo. But there is always
> debts to be paid after the fireworks.

That's where George W. Bush's idea of borrowing money to sustain the government,
hence the military, whilst cutting taxes, comes in handy! He wants to cut
funds for Cancer research, claiming that the military is more important! Sieg
Heil!

Nothing beats a lowering taxes and increasing debt to finance a war! It's never
been done in the USA until now!


>
> Nipping a dictatorship in the bud either politically or by killing the leaders
> seems a far more cost effective way of doing things. It also is less traumatic
> for everyone else involved.
> Appeasement though is the most dangerous route to go.

"Nation building" is a joke, brought to you from the same people who accuse the
left of "Social Engineering"

What a country!


Lee

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"Chief" <chi...@excite.com> wrote in message
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I am only a poor limey who is in the process yet again of being futbucked by
a nation building state.

Its wake up time, fight back democratically if possible, or like WW2 stick
by your principles till you get another pearl harbour.

Lee


Chief

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"Lee" <me@localhost> wrote

>
> I am only a poor limey who is in the process yet again of being futbucked by a
> nation building state.
>
> Its wake up time, fight back democratically if possible, or like WW2 stick by
> your principles till you get another pearl harbour.


Canada's current Prime Minister wanted us to be in Iraq.

In 2002, the Canadian special forces, along with the British and Aussie SAS and
US Rangers took Afghanistan.

Even then, the Prime Minister at the time, a French Quebecker, said this about
going into Iraq:

(excuse his poor English, his French is no better)

"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And
when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

He was challenging the bull shit pronounced by the Bush Administration that led
to the war in Iraq.

We didn't go into Iraq.

I don't like the guy, but his point turned out to be "proven"

It's the only good thing that the bastard ever did!

Scott

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Never mind. Bush has a cunning plan. He's financing a terrorist group called
Jundallah (God’s Brigade) to destabilize Iran in a covert military operation.
Unfortunately a group of the same name operating from the same country
(Pakistan) just happens to have close links with Al Qaeda! It's incredible but
its true - you'd think they'd learn from all the money they poured into the
Taliban in the 80s.

Another one the US is sponsoring is MEK (Mujahedin-e Khalq). They operate out
of Iraq. They're Sunni and they used to carry out atrocities for Saddam. They
were declared a terrorist organisation in 1997 by the US State Dept. The Iraqi
government understandably want to close them down (they're not beyond doing a
bit of freelance 'work' inside Iraq). However the camp from which they operate
(Camp Ashraf) is under the protection of the U.S. military, and American
soldiers chauffeur MEK leaders. They claim to be the primary U.S. source for
intelligence on Iran.

Just because car bombs and assassinations in Iran don't get reported in western
media, don't assume that they're not happening. The US has been working for
years, even before the Iraqi invasion, to get the Iranian regime replaced with
a er ... Taliban style government....

Peter Worth

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When I did my MBA, some of my friends were Iranians, some were Iraqis.

I knew folks from Northern Ireland who promised to go back home (once things
settled down), and did.

They're living like Kings now.

My hope is that the others I knew from "shit holes" have done the same or will
one day.

All of the foreigners cared a lot about their nest and heritage. Getting their
education was a goal, but being change-agents after returning home was one too.

I suppose they're "patriots'.

It's hard to be bigoted when you meet people like them.

Scott

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Mar 31, 2007, 8:23:10 PM3/31/07
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I know exactly what you mean. Some of my friends were Iranians and Iraqis. The
difference between them and how the population of their countries are portrayed
by the media, could not be bigger.

Midex

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On Mar 31, 12:40 pm, "Koos Nolst Trenite"

<AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> With data just in from the news services,
>
> it seems, that Russia's Putin (being a Criminal Mind himself) is
> in on (is part of) the hijacking of British soldiers on duty, by
> the Iranian "government."
>
> A suggestion worth investigating.
>
> It even looks like Russia's Putin may have ORIGINATED or pre-approved
> the hijacking action by the Iranian Islamic "military" and propaganda
> machine, obviously promising them his "international," "objective"
> support.
>
> '
>
> DO NOT JUST LOOK WHERE THE ENEMY WANTS (where Criminal Minds want)
> THAT YOU LOOK (others will do that already for you),
>
> but look wider, much wider - there, where you should look.
>
> - KNT hrp&prea


Quoted this fool who still believes the Official story of 9/11 and
hasn't googled around enough to witness the blatantly obvious evidence
that it was an inside job?
The question is not "Was 911 an inside job" the question is now "Who
did it? Was it mostly Zionists/Mossad or was it mostly Oil Mongers?"

> (17 March 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/73f43e03f0ce04a8


> ]
>
> (1) 'Fine Particle Physics To Understand Psychosis'

> {HRI 20030227-V2.2} (27 Feb 2003 - Version 2.2 on 23 Jan 2005)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.med/msg/a3940363702cebcf


>
> (2) 'The Trinity Of Science - Truth, Love and Beauty (Version 2.1)

> {HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1}' (7 March 2003 - V2.1 on 17 Oct 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67...


>
> (3) 'Criminal Minds ENJOY LYING, And THEY Know They Intentionally
> Lie'

> {HRI 20050527-V3.5} (27 May 2005 - Version 3.5 on 10 June 2005)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/human-rights-issues/msg/ecc4b12aaae...


>
> (4) 'On Those Who Want Awareness Not Understood' {HRI 20030416-V1.0}

> (16 April 2003 - Version 1.0)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/640e381f8fc938c0


>
> (5) 'Detecting Criminal Minds By Their Intentional Omission Of Vital
> Truth' {HRI 20020819-V2.2.3}

> (19 August 2002 - Version 2.2.3 on 12 May 2005)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/53a97b173ef3...


>
> (6) 'Standard Behavior Of Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030509-V3.1}

> (9 May 2003 - Version 3.1 on 2 Dec 2004)http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.fine/msg/a83e5c14a4cbf0b3?fcw...


>
> (7) 'Understanding Eternal Criminally Minded Individuals'

> {HRI 20031124} (24 November 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/9c378e7f32b5...


>
> (8) 'Two More Tools To Detect Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030716}

> (16 July 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/7585a3f78ab0...


>
> (9) 'Defining Love And Hate - A Law Of Life' V2.0i

> (29 July 2002 - Version 2.0i on 7 January 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/40d2a6d4cadc...
>
> (10) 'Theory Of Repairing Criminal Minds' (13 Dec 2002)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/fb...
> a55476cd
>
> (11) 'Definition Of Schizophrenic' {HR 20021125} (25 Nov 2002)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/sci.psychology.misc/msg/f34d97fee2a...


>
> (12) 'The First International Law' (Version 2.0) {HRI 20021124-V2.0}

> (24 November 2002 - Version 2.0 on 23 Sept 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/e6fd1197b167...


>
> (13) 'Understanding Of Those Who Harm Life
> - Criminal Minds Radiate Lies' {HRI 20030611-II}

> (11 June 2003)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/9973dabee57b8edf


>
> (14) 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies
> - As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds'

> {HRI 20030611} (11 June 2003)http://www.googlegroups.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/782f862bb354...
>
> (15) (nn) 'Not WHY Is There Suffering, But...
>
> read more »


Midex

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:22:51 AM4/1/07
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On Mar 31, 5:51 pm, "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote:
> "Koos Nolst Trenite" <AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1175341246....@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>
> > With data just in from the news services,
>
> > it seems, that Russia's Putin (being a Criminal Mind himself) is
> > in on (is part of) the hijacking of British soldiers on duty, by
> > the Iranian "government."
>
> > A suggestion worth investigating.
>
> Nope, Ahmadinejad's a stereotypical raghead, he was involved in the Iran
> hostage crisis, he is wanted for murder in Austria and he is also a
> holocaust denier.


What is a holocaust denier? Is it someone who has looked into the
arguments and history of that incident and discovered that the so
called holocause was a fabrication of Zionist agency?
Like for example, have you seen www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com?
Have you actually seen that four hour documentary?
It would thus take a 12 hour documentary to cover the whole claims of
the holocaust.

Have you actually read anything about these arguments or is it just
Hollywood films and novellas that led you to believe that the poor
little innocent jews were persecuted because of a mysterious disease
called 'anti-semitism'?


>
> The man is a loose cannon and it has been said that the mad mullahs who are
> ultimatly in charge (praise be to bullshine) have kept him out of the
> hostage situation at a public level to prevent further escalation of the
> this impasse.

Loose Canon? Wouldn't that be Bush? Sorry did Amadinejad invade
Afghanistan under false pretenses and kill 30,000 innocent civilians
in order to hunt down Osama? Did Amadenejad invade Iraq under
deliberately fabiricated lies to the UNSC about WMDS and then murder
650,000 innocent civilians?

Which Loose Canon were you talking about? The one that fires or the
one that sits on the coast to guard its people from the threat of
violence that Bush relentless uses on everyone and anyone who doesn't
agree with McDonalds?

Midex

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:25:18 AM4/1/07
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On Mar 31, 5:58 pm, "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote
>
> > Hopefully the Iranian people will realise that they have a complete
> > goat-humper for a president and depose him soon before he sullies their
> > countries reputation any further.
>
> Good point. The Iranians who I've met are OK, good folks (and I've heard that
> from other sources as well). It's said that the governments ambitions or style
> isn't representative of the populace.

Its not just said by proven that the 2000 and 2004 US elections were
rigged.
This is what makes me sick about dumbed down fools like you - your
views are so obviously illinformed and uneducated and ungoogled to
everyone who has taken the proper time to investigate the charges
against American war crimes - YOU NEVER LOOK AT AMERICA. YOU ASSUME
THAT AMERICA DOES NO WRONG.

AMERICA AND ISRAEL ARE THE WORST TERRORISTS IN THE FUCKING WORLD MAN.
GO ASK ANY MOTHER FUCKER IN SOUTH AMERICA.

Midex

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:31:06 AM4/1/07
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On Mar 31, 6:21 pm, "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote:
> "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:eum40c$m2t$1...@news.datemas.de...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote
> >> Hopefully the Iranian people will realise that they have a complete
> >> goat-humper for a president and depose him soon before he sullies their
> >> countries reputation any further.
>
> > Good point. The Iranians who I've met are OK, good folks (and I've heard
> > that from other sources as well). It's said that the governments
> > ambitions or style isn't representative of the populace.
>
> > Their a highly educated people by developed world standards, English is
> > spoken there. They're not a bunch of stinking, ignorant rag heads who
> > show up at government organized protests and burn American flags shouting
> > gibberish.
>
> On the other hand Iran groups have been turning up outside the Iran embassy
> in London protesting very loudly about the present regime in their country.
> Media censorship


Bwahahahaha!!! Media censorship? You mean like all the anti-zionist
jews whose protests you never see on the zionist owned western media
televions? All the jews burning the flag of Israel? All the Americans
progessive jews who protest publically and refer to Israel as the
worst terrorist regime in the world?
You mean that media censorship? You mean the western media who never
played WTC7 collapse footage to Americans after 9/11 such that in late
2006 a poll discovered that 60% of Americans dont' even know that
there was a third tower that free fall collapsed on 9/11?

You realise that WTC7 is the same height as the tallest building in
Brazil?

>though is a powerful thing and well exploited by the crazy
> ragheads running that country at present.

Yeh man. Back to the television of you WEST and be sure to come back
to Usenet without googling anything outside of the western mainstream
television and newspaper websites and be sure to come back here a
parrot your stupid Bill O'Reilley synonomous stupidity liek a good
little Nazi Drummer Boy. LAP IT UP. LAP IT UP MATE - YOU ARE THE BEST
IN THE WORLD. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS WRONG AND YOU WESTERN BOY YOUR
GOVERNMENT DOESNT LIE AND YOUR MEDIA OWNED BY A HANDFUL OF
CORPORATIONS, NATRUALLY, TELLS YOU THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.

GO GET YOUR GUNS FUCKER. GET READY FOR CIVIL WAR. BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T
EDUCATE YOU CUNTS DONT THINK WE ARE GOING TO STAND AROUND AND WATCH
YOU DUMB NAZIS MASS MURDER THE MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLES.

>
> Lee


Midex

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:33:02 AM4/1/07
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On Mar 31, 6:34 pm, "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote in message
>
> news:460e986e$1$21849$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
>
>
>
> > "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote

Christ, you sound like youi just walked over to Usenet from your
television and like some kind of fucking robopath preprogrammed
opinions just spewed the same shit all over Usenet.

USE GOOGLE YOU IGNORANT FUCK. GOOGLE FOR THE NEWS - LOOK AT ALL THE
OPINIONS> YOU ARE BEING LIED TO 100% OF THE TIME ON WESTERN MEDIA.


Sunny

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Apr 1, 2007, 3:13:33 AM4/1/07
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"Midex" <jbmc...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175409066.6...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

| GO GET YOUR GUNS FUCKER. GET READY FOR CIVIL WAR. BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T
| EDUCATE YOU CUNTS DONT THINK WE ARE GOING TO STAND AROUND AND WATCH
| YOU DUMB NAZIS MASS MURDER THE MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLES.

Your nurse on stress leave Jake ?

fiend999

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:08:32 AM4/1/07
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In article <eum40c$m2t$1...@news.datemas.de>, Peter Worth
<pworth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

So why does the US government pretend that all Iranians fit that
description?

--
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fiend999

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:12:03 AM4/1/07
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In article <eumu4i$s8p$1$8300...@news.demon.co.uk>, Scott
<blac...@nowhere.com> wrote:


They are portrayed as raging idiots who need the US to parent them.
They need no such thing.

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~~~

chuckie

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:35:10 AM4/1/07
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Quit the Putin bashing, Ziopig.

Midex

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Apr 1, 2007, 11:24:22 AM4/1/07
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On Mar 31, 7:19 pm, "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote:
> "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:eum63s$p6v$1...@news.datemas.de...
>
>
>
> > "Lee" <me@localhost> wrote in message
> >news:460e986e$1$21849$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> >> "Peter Worth" <pworth_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote

> >>> Their a highly educated people by developed world standards, English is
> >>> spoken there. They're not a bunch of stinking, ignorant rag heads who
> >>> show up at government organized protests and burn American flags
> >>> shouting gibberish.
>
> >> On the other hand Iran groups have been turning up outside the Iran
> >> embassy in London protesting very loudly about the present regime in
> >> their country. Media censorship though is a powerful thing and well
> >> exploited by the crazy ragheads running that country at present.
>
> > Not really representative of the people though.
>
> > I recall when a bunch of looney tunes showed up in front of the US
> > Consulate in Toronto, protesting something or another, tossed Molotov
> > Cocktails at the building and a hand full of rabble rousers were

arrested
> > and found to be carrying bottles of gasoline (with wicks) in their
> > pockets.
>
> > It wasn't representative of the ethnic group over all, in fact it was
> > shouted down by the community leaders as being irresponsible and dumbass
> > (my word) actions.
>
> I don't know the numbers in Iran, but usually with dictatorships there is a
> nutter at the helm (Hitler, pol pot, idi amin

GWB, blair - we're talking about mass murderers here who fucking lied
to

us about the existence of WMDs in Iraq, they lied to the UNSC - we're
not

talking about misinterpreted intellegence - we're talking about the

deliberate fabrication of evidence while they knew Suddam did not
have

any WMDS. Or means to make them. Amnesty International warned the an

invasion of Iraq would cost the lives of 500,000 innocent civilians
(that

includes CHILDREN AND WOMEN!!! - FUCKING CHILDREN MAN. YOUR SONS AND
YOUR

DAUGHTERS WERE OR ARE CHILDREN - TELL ME ARE YOU THE PERSONIFICATION
OF

EVIL?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

??????????????????????????????????????


Go look it up on google, go see the live testimonies of lies on
YouTube,

on the internet pasted everywhere for YOU.

FOR YOU

FOR YOU TO HOPEFULLY STUMBLE ACROSS SO THAT YOU FIND OUT THE TRUTH.
THE

GOD DAMNED FUCKING TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IS GOING ON.

AND NOW ACCORDING TO YOUR WORDS AI WRITE AMONGST YOU ARE GOING TO
FALL

FOR THEIR PROPAGANDA EXACTLY LIKE YOU FELL FOR IT WITH THE IRAQ
INVASION.

)

>once the 'nutter' is removed
> the population tend to get on with their lives and try to forget that part
> of their history. It is difficult to dislike moderate Iran people


You've never even seen the full letters that Amadinejad has written
to

the American people because you brainwashing censored western media
cabal

owned by only four corporations won't show it to you because that
would

cause you to realise you are being PROPAGANDERED BY A NAZI REGIME THAT
IS

IN YOUR OWN CORRIDORS OF POWER.

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND GET ON GOOGLE AND DO SOME FUCKING

RESEARCH OR GOD FORGIVE YOU YOU WILL GO TO HELL FOR VINCIBLE
IGNORANCE.


> that speak
> on the news and writing them off because of their crazy splintered
> Government seems wrong.
>
> The militant talk about invading the country which can be great fun if you
> are in your 20's with a free assault rifle and unlimited ammo. But there is
> always debts to be paid after the fireworks.


DEBTS? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MASS

MURDERING. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MASS MURDERING PEOPLE SUCH AS YOUR
FAMILY

AND FRIENDS - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING HUMAN BEINGS LIVING THEIR

LIVES HERE.

>
> Nipping a dictatorship in the bud either politically or by killing the
> leaders seems a far more cost effective way of doing things.


DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD ASSASSINATE JOHN HOWARD AND THE WHOLE CAUCUS,
GWB

AND THE WHOLE CONGRESS, AND TONY BLAIR AND THE WHOLE FUCKING BRITTISH

PARLIAMENT THEN? WE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY COVER UP
THE

TRUTH OF 911? WE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY COVER UP THE
LIES

THEY TOLD ON WMDS THEN?????

>It also is less
> traumatic for everyone else involved.

Did you know that those anthrax attacks post 911 came from fort
Detrix?

Did you know that that also was an inside job?
Go look it up. Go look up everything you can find via google about
the

anthrax.

You have America who manufactures biological weapons, nuclear wepoans
and

uses them illegally on their own people and other nations and you
have

the fucking audacity to call Amadinejad a despot and lunatic because
he

is developing his own nuclear industry. You're talking about Israel,
who

for 40 years hid from the whole world and the UN a nuclear weapons

development and biological weapons development program breaking every

international law imaginable and we never till this day have heard
squat.

Its because of those fuckers developing WMDs that the whole area was

thrown into an arms race. You realise that JFK was going to pressure

Israel to stop their nuclear development?

Look man, as painful as it may be for you, in order that you are
allowed

into the Gates of Heaven I advise you to research these issues on
Google

and discover the truth otherwise you are worse than all of germany
who

supported the Nazi regime.

You know Pol Pot who genocided a million - did you know that
roosevelt

when he was General in germany after their defeat deliberately held 1

million german prisoners of war in concentration camps and starved
them

to death? Thats right. The man who then became president of the US
mass

murdered 1 million unarmed prisoners of war.

Get your head out of the fucking Hollywood Holocaust Jew-Propagander
Lime

and look into that unprecedented largest library in the galaxy called
the

internet.

I promise god will not forgive you for ignoring what is freely known
to

most people in the world except for the head up their own ass western

electorate fools who believe that their own governments are the GOOD

GUYS.

And you think you have a democracy? You talking about that thing where
we

vote once every four years for one of two choices? You talking about

those referendums we have once in a blue moon? Like the fact that a

majority of Australians didn't want Australia to support America in
their

Iraq invasion and yet the government just went and did what ever they

fucking like as though we a sheep fuckers with no right of vote? That

democracy?

Midex

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On Apr 1, 8:13 am, "Sunny" <wombatho...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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Sunny

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Run out of stuff to copy/paste Jake, and need to resort to your juvenile long subject lines?

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