Limbaugh's ignorance; Romney's flip-flops; Blankley & Medved on Huckabee
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
David Limbaugh's ignorance
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage,
abortion, homosexual agenda, campaign finance
reform, gun control, LDS theology
Tony Blankley and Michael Medved defending
Huckabee against elite conservatives
will on 19 December 2007:
> Wow. I have never seen Republicans so fractured. Mitt
> has all those flip-flops to account for on practically
> every interview (& it's not simply a couple; it's a
> dozen....he's changed his mind - or "evolved" - on
> just about everything in the past 2-3 years).
Medved, Michael. 19 December 2007. "Even If He Loses Nomination,
Huck's Drive Helps G.O.P."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/12/19/even_if_he_loses_nomination,_hucks_drive_helps_gop?page=full&comments=true
Governor Romney insists on his own right to
change his mind on big issues (including abortion,
gun control, gay rights, and even immigration--
where as recently as 2006 he publicly supported a
"path to legalization" that he now derides as
"amnesty.")
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
MR. RUSSERT: Immigration, an issue that is very
important in this country and to the Republican
primary voters. The Boston Globe interviewed you
two years ago, and there's a tape of that
conversation where you expressed support for the
policies of George Bush and John McCain on
immigration. Let's watch and listen.
(Audiotape)
GOV. ROMNEY: I think an amnesty program is
what, which is all the illegal immigrants who are
here are now citizens,
....
GOV. ROMNEY: ...and a walk up and get your
citizenship. What the president has proposed,
....
GOV. ROMNEY: ...and, and what Senator McCain
and Cornyn have proposed, are, are quite different
than that.
....
GOV. ROMNEY: They require people signing up
for a, a, well, registering and receiving, if you will, a
number, a registration number, then working here
for six years and paying taxes...
....
GOV. ROMNEY: ...not taking benefits--health,
Medicaid, food stamps, and so forth--not taking
benefits, and then at the end of that period,
registering to become a citizen or applying to
become a citizen and paying a fee. And, and those
are things that are being, being considered, and I, I
think that that's--that those are reasonable
proposals.
(End audiotape)
I'll be charitable and chalk up to 'extreme ignorance' David
Limbaugh's mention here of merely Romney's social issues flip-flops:
Limbaugh, David. 15 December 2007. "Single-Issue vs. Comprehensive
Conservatism"
http://townhall.com/columnists/DavidLimbaugh/2007/12/15/single-issue_vs_comprehensive_conservatism
Again, my reservations concern his recent flips on
social issues and how they bear on his authenticity.
But if Mitt is the man he presents himself to be, he
could make an extraordinary president.
Then again, perhaps Limbaugh is almost as deluded as Romney himself,
Romney apparently believing he changed his stance on the issue of only
abortion, and nothing else:
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
MR. RUSSERT: Could you be elected governor of
Massachusetts on your current platform, the one
you know espose-- espouse about abortion, gay
rights, gun control, stem cell research, immigration?
GOV. ROMNEY: There's one what I changed, and
that's with regards to abortion. And, and with my
position on abortion was--I was effectively pro-
choice and I became pro-life. I did the same--I
made the same--had the same experience that
Ronald Reagan had...
MR. RUSSERT: Governor...
GOV. ROMNEY: ...that Henry Hyde had.
MR. RUSSERT: ...you look at those comments and
quotes all--on every one of these issues, there has
been an--a--an evolution, an intellectual journey on
all these issues.
GOV. ROMNEY: That-- Tim, I'll reject that. And--
because we just talked about stem cell research.
MR. RUSSERT: All right.
GOV. ROMNEY: And I described what my position
was.
MR. RUSSERT: Let...
GOV. ROMNEY: I just talked about, about guns. I
told you what my position was, and what I, what I
did as governor; the fact that I received the
endorsement of the NRA.
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indexing the minimum wage
Davis, Teddy. 24 July 2007. "Will Romney Flip on Minimum Wage?
Position as Governor at Odds With Republican's '08 Ambitions"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3407772&page=1
"I think that indexing the minimum wage is a
problem for Gov. Romney," said Pat Toomey, the
president of the conservative Club for Growth.
"Clearly he has taken a number of positions" in his
presidential campaign "that are more conservative
than he has in the past," Toomey said, referring to
Romney's initial opposition to the Bush tax cuts.
"The question free-market conservatives are asking
is: How sincere is this conversion? How strongly
does he believe in these things now?"
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abortion
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
27 May 2005 Romney on Stem Cell Veto -- 3:18 -3:34: I've kept promise
to preserve status quo of abortion in MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gP3kJLFh7s
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homosexuality
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney for domestic partnership benefits-- 0:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kyyM8QjZU
Romney opposes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation,
in
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
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campaign-finance reform
Ponnuru, Ramesh. 6 March 2007. The Candidates on Campaign Finance
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWExN2NkNjdkNDYxNDM1MGUxNzE2YzU2ZDI0MWE0MTg=
Romney, it turns out, has-- surprise, surprise-- been
on both sides of campaign-finance reform. In his
1994 race, Romney came out for banning political
action committees, limiting spending on federal
races (something the Supreme Court has not
allowed), and opposed allowing larger contributions.
All told, those positions place him to the left of
McCain-Feingold....
Richter, Ari. 2007-04-27. Romney v. McCain-Feingold
http://www.yourconcord.com/primaryblog/romney_v_mccain_feingold
Apropos of today's Monitor story on Mitt Romney's
criticism of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance
law, here is a YouTube clip [no longer available] of
Romney during his 1994 Senate campaign against
Ted Kennedy.
In the clip Romney expresses concern about the
associations between money and politics. He calls
for federal campaign spending limits, saying that
without them, money will play too big a role in
elections. And he says he would abolish PACs.
Romney is pandering about campaign finance laws
http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/04/25/why-is-romney-talking-about-campaign-finance-laws/
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to gun control. Here's
the headline: "Romney retreats on gun control.
Romney, who once described himself as a
supporter of strong gun laws, is distancing himself
from that rhetoric now as he attempts to court the
gun owners who make up a significant force in
Republican primary politics. In his '94" Senate race,
Romney backed two gun-control measures strongly
opposed by the National Rife Association and other"
guns rights "groups: the Brady Bill, which imposed
a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on
certain assault weapons. 'That's not going to make
me the hero of the NRA,' Romney told the Boston
Herald.'" "At another campaign stop" "he told
reporters, 'I don't line up with the NRA.'" Suddenly
Romney decides to run for president and signs up
for a lifetime membership in the NRA.
GOV. ROMNEY: You know, it's, it's wonderful, and
you'll appreciate this. There is a great effort on the
part of, in some cases, my opposition, in some
cases, just folks that are interested in writing an
interesting article to, to try and find any change at
all. And my position on guns is the same position
I've had for a long, long time. And, and that position
is that I don't line up 100 percent with the NRA. I
don't see eye to eye with the NRA on every issue.
I...
2007 version of Romney rejects McCain-Feingold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAbi4l_OaZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGVpLz_i_Ms
http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/04/25/why-is-romney-talking-about-campaign-finance-laws/
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gun control
2002 Romney on gun control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE
Romney Remarks To The NRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnXdOgCed0A&feature=related
NH Voter's Infamous Question to Mitt Romney, Hunter Extraordinaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ug_pt_mQwc
Hardball clip re: Romney: "I've been a hunter pretty much all my
life"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvny6CKcNc
GIF:
2002 Romney website
http://www.viningcommunications.atfreeweb.com/MA_Republicans_For_Truth/Images/Romney_Healey_2002.gif
> And the mormon thing's not helping.
religious identity: Mrs. Clinton benefits, Romney loses
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=719a46bd-40b8-4822-8297-e163d94318cb%40y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com
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LDS theology
Patashnik, Josh. 20 November 2007. "Latter-Day Skeptics" _The New
Republic_
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=03668296-424a-4878-bd95-209837a30815
Mitt Romney has a well-earned reputation as a flip-
flopper. But it's one thing to flip-flop on your politics,
and quite another to flip-flop on your faith. So it
came as something of a surprise when, during an
interview earlier this year with George
Stephanopoulos, the presidential candidate
disputed the suggestion that Christ would someday
return to the United States rather than the Middle
East. Mormons, he said, believe "that the Messiah
will come to Jerusalem. ... It's the same as the other
Christian tradition."
[Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Xc-X8LckQ&feature=related
This was both technically correct and completely
misleading: The church's position is that, while
Christ will indeed appear at the Mount of Olives, he
will also build a new Jerusalem in Jackson County,
Missouri, which will serve as the seat of his 1,000-
year reign on Earth. Romney had conveniently
neglected to mention this part of his church's
doctrine.
Needless to say, his fellow Mormons were none too
pleased. "Brother Romney is playing a little bit of a
political game with his answer," one church official
told Lee Benson of the Deseret Morning News-- in a
column noting that Romney's comment had "caused
more than a few members of The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-Day Saints ... to scratch their heads
as if to say, 'What the flip?'" Callers to a Utah talk-
radio show lambasted the candidate for
misrepresenting church teachings. And the Mormon
blogosphere--known as the Bloggernacle--buzzed
with discussion of the quote. One post on the blog
Mormon Mentality condemned Romney for being
"evasive," while another complained, "If he were so
proud to be a Mormon, he should tell the truth."
....
It remains to be seen whether many Mormons
will come to have similar qualms about Romney--
whether they will end up concluding, in the words of
Jan Shipps, a historian of Mormonism, that the
candidate is "giving away the store" in pursuit of
evangelical votes. But, with the GOP contest
starting to look like a two-man race between him
and Rudy Giuliani, Romney may increasingly seek
to portray himself as the evangelical-friendly
alternative to the famously secular New Yorker. And
the bolder his courting of evangelicals, the more
pressure he will feel to conflate his beliefs with
theirs-- further unnerving his fellow Mormons.
"There's an inclination to give him a free pass,
because he's managed to achieve so much in a
difficult climate," says Kearney. "But I think more
and more people are starting to realize that he's
going to do whatever it takes to get elected--
whether it's good for the church or not."
Romney on whether Missouri is a holy land-- 1:33 - 2:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofWPexIabc&feature=related
> A large chunk of the GOP elite (Sean Hannity,
> Hugh Hewitt, even Townhall it seems) wants to
> sink the Huckabee campaign;
Medved, Michael. 19 December 2007. "Even If He Loses Nomination,
Huck's Drive Helps G.O.P."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/12/19/even_if_he_loses_nomination,_hucks_drive_helps_gop?page=full&comments=true
Among elite commentators and prominent
conservative opinion leaders, Huckabee has won no
supporters and only one defender (the radio host
writing this commentary).
> there are many
> signs they don't like him & don't think he'd win against a democrat next year
Some famous conservatives (e.g. Ann Coulter talking on 19 December
2007 on Hannity & Colmes) believe Romney can win against Mrs.
Clinton. And yet, Romney might not even win Iowa, despite his diving
*deep* into his bulging pockets:
Medved, Michael. 19 December 2007. "Even If He Loses Nomination,
Huck's Drive Helps G.O.P."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/12/19/even_if_he_loses_nomination,_hucks_drive_helps_gop?page=full&comments=true
He's [Huckabee has] achieved this success-- so
far-- despite the fact that Romney outspent him in
Iowa by a ludicrous ratio of at least 20 to 1, and his
national fundraising has lagged far, far behind
Romney, Rudy, Thompson, McCain and even Ron
Paul and Tom Tancredo.
13 November 2007. Romney spending $85,000-plus a day on TV ads
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/13/romney.ads/
Romney is spending more than $85,000 a day --
$600,000 last week alone -- on campaign
commercials, according to TNSMI/Campaign Media
Analysis Group, CNN's consultant on political
television advertising spending.
> (his anti-war
> statements are not helping him either with the talk-
> radio crowd).
Blankley, Tony. 19 December 2007. "None of the Above: GOP Heading to
a Brokered Convention"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/TonyBlankley/2007/12/19/none_of_the_above_gop_heading_to_a_brokered_convention?page=full&comments=true#postComments
The alleged Huckabee shocker of the week (for the
GOP D.C. regulars in journalism and blogland) is
his description of President Bush's foreign policy as
plagued by an "arrogant bunker mentality." This
phrase, according to Romney and his journalistic
coat holders, is disloyal to President Bush and is
right out of the Democratic talking points.
There is just a touch of insincerity in that charge.
During the past year or two, one couldn't have lunch
at The Capital Grille (preferred dining spot for big-
time D.C. Republican politicians and journalists) or
other similar locations without hearing the constant
complaint that the Bush White House was arrogant
and wouldn't listen to their friends about Iraq or
about domestic matters. Until Eddie Gillespie came
in as counselor recently (and started reaching out),
the word "bunker" was a plausible and often-used
word to describe the White House -- even on Iraq
policy before the surge this spring.
> I've never heard a conservative
> called a "liberal" so much; unless you count Arnold
> Schwarzenegger from my home state.
Blankley, Tony. 19 December 2007. "None of the Above: GOP Heading to
a Brokered Convention"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/TonyBlankley/2007/12/19/none_of_the_above_gop_heading_to_a_brokered_convention?page=full&comments=true#postComments
Now former Gov. Huckabee -- for the moment
surging to the front -- is on the receiving end of
withering intraparty fire applied with a rhetorical
violence usually reserved by Republican polemicists
for a Clinton or a Kennedy. Just as social
conservatives earlier this fall threatened (for a
couple of weeks) to run a third-party candidate if
Giuliani got the nomination, so Washington GOP
elites are willing to misrepresent parts of what
Huckabee has said and written in a savage effort to
destroy any chance he might have of being elected.
Medved, Michael. 19 December 2007. "Even If He Loses Nomination,
Huck's Drive Helps G.O.P."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/12/19/even_if_he_loses_nomination,_hucks_drive_helps_gop?page=full&comments=true
For several reasons, it's a bad idea at this stage to
try to knee-cap or smear or discredit the former
Arkansas governor, finding (or manufacturing) an
endless stream of bitter charges meant to cripple
him permanently.
> The evangelicals are voicing more & more
> displeasure with Giuliani (hence, the Huckabee
> "surge") & there are many in the party who are
> uncomfortable with McCain because of his pro-
> amnesty immigration push, along with other
> issues.... And it's not even necessary to bring up
> Thompson anymore.
Fred Thompson's appeasement of Dems during impeachment
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1194910034.320754.62810%40k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com
Thompson and the NRLC (_Washington Times_ editorial of 11/15/07)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926761/posts
Fred Thompson's role in anti-Christian TV show
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1194884207.067667.167660%40o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com
15 September 2007, "Fred Thompson unprepared to answer on Terri
Schiavo
case"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/14/2007-09-14_fred_thompson_unprepared_to_answer_on_te.html
"I can't pass judgment on it. I know that good people
were doing what they thought was best," [Fred] Thompson
said in Florida when asked about the [Terri
Schindler Schiavo] case. "That's going back in
history. I don't remember the details of it."
Terri Schindler Schiavo story with villains, victims, and heroes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115741978.820440.50060%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/887931879.html
http://www.terrisfight.org/pages.php?page_id=37
Mark Fuhrman's _Silent Witness: The Untold Story of Terri Schiavo's
Death_
http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Witness-Untold-Story-Schiavos/dp/B000EMSZ2O
FL lawyer says Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/05/attorney_says_giuliani_romney.php
Republican Candidates Romney, Giuliani, McCain Repudiate Government
Effort to Save Terri Schiavo
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07052511.html
> His goose is thoroughly cooked.
>
> Whoever gets nominated, a sizable portion of the
> GOP will simply be dissatisfied.
Medved, Michael. 19 December 2007. "Even If He Loses Nomination,
Huck's Drive Helps G.O.P."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/12/19/even_if_he_loses_nomination,_hucks_drive_helps_gop?page=full&comments=true
Finally, party leaders should try to avoid the
impression of "ganging up" on Huck because they
will need the voters he's been able to mobilize.
There's no doubt that Huckabee has inspired and
energized many citizens who hadn't been excited by
any other candidate. Republicans will seek those
voters in November, not just in the Presidential race
but in a horde of Congressional and statewide
contests.
It won't help to insult those Huckabee loyalists by
describing them as religious fanatics, or anti-
Mormon bigots, or ignorant rubes, nor does it make
sense to treat their candidate as some sort of
embarrassment or a pariah.
> Those are just the
> cards dealt this time around. I can only think that
> this will affect voter turnout.
Blankley, Tony. 19 December 2007. "None of the Above: GOP Heading to
a Brokered Convention"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/TonyBlankley/2007/12/19/none_of_the_above_gop_heading_to_a_brokered_convention?page=full&comments=true#postComments
But most of all, I fear our intraparty fury will destroy
all leaders and send us off to a brokered convention
-- and from thence, probably to defeat. If the
Democrats have their candidate by February and
we are campaigning harshly until August, we surely
would start in a deep hole.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
and Scalia 71, Justice Breyer 69 and Justice Souter 68"
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Romney also appointed to a judgeship an avowed
abortion supporter. And a July 2005 Boston Globe
analysis found that Romney nominated registered
Republicans for only one-fourth of the 36 judicial
vacancies he filled during his first 2 1/2 years as
governor. While it is true that Romney governed a
heavily Democratic state, and that an independently
elected Governor's Council (comprised [almost] exclusively
of Democrats) had to confirm all judicial selections,
it is also true that the council nearly always confirms
the governor's nominees.
Lewis, Raphael. 25 July 2005. "Romney jurist picks not tilted to GOP
Independents, Democrats get call" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/07/25/romney_jurist_picks_not_tilted_to_gop/
Romney, despite his opposition to same-sex
marriage, in May selected for a district court
judgeship Stephen S. Abany, a former board
member of the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar
Association who organized the group's opposition to
a 1999 bill to outlaw same-sex marriage. Just two
days before the nomination, Romney was lamenting
the liberal tilt of the state's bench, telling Fox News
that ''our courts have a record here in
Massachusetts, don't they, of being a little blue and
being Kerry-like."
Another Romney choice for the bench is Marianne
C. Hinkle, a registered Democrat who worked as an
aide to Governor Michael S. Dukakis in the late
1970s and prosecuted John C. Salvi III in the 1994
Brookline abortion clinic shootings. Hinkle, in her
application for the bench, describes herself as a
longtime active member of Dignity/USA, a group
that advocates for expanded gay rights in the
Catholic Church and society generally.
==
Romney has faced criticism from Governor's
Councilors and some bar associations for failing to
nominate more women, minorities, and defense
attorneys to the bench. Seeking to counter such
attacks, Romney's appointee to the chairmanship of
the Judicial Nominating Commission, Boston lawyer
Christopher D. Moore, has reached out to minority
and women's bar associations to encourage
members to apply. He's done the same with the
state lesbian and gay bar association, which also
has a seat on Romney's joint bar committee.
==
Rick Beltram, chairman of the Spartanburg County,
S.C., Republican Party that hosted a Romney fund-
raiser in February, said South Carolina's Republican
presidential primary voters may think twice about
supporting a Massachusetts governor whose
judicial picks had been ''actively lobbying for gay
marriage."
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Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
King march
Defends figurative words; evidence contradicts story"
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/12/21/romney_never_saw_father_on_king_march/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+Front+Page
Mitt Romney went a step further in a 1978 interview
with the Boston Herald. Talking about the Mormon
Church and racial discrimination, he said: "My father
and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through
the streets of Detroit."
Yesterday, Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom
acknowledged that was not true. "Mitt Romney did
not march with Martin Luther King," he said in an e-
mail statement to the Globe.
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
Did Romney call homosexuality "perverse"?
Vennochi, Joan. 26 November 2006. "Romney's dance to the right"
_Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/11/26/romneys_dance_to_the_right/
But, as a recent opinion piece in Bay Windows, New
England's largest publication for lesbian and gay
readers, pointed out, "Anyone thinking of supporting
Romney's bid for president because of his socially
conservative views on gay people should know a
few things about the governor."
Among the items writer Susan Ryan-Vollmar notes:
....
During that same campaign, Romney was accused
of once describing gay people as "perverse." In
response, Romney's campaign vehemently denied
that he used the word "perverse" and said that he
respected "all people regardless of their race, creed,
or sexual orientation."
Ryan-Vollmar article
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Luo, Michael. 8 September 2007. "Romney's Tone on Gay Rights Is Seen
as Shift"
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/us/politics/08romney.html
The Boston Globe published an article quoting
several people who said Mr. Romney had delivered
an address at a Mormon gathering that year in
which he called homosexuality "perverse."
Massachusetts
Gov. Mitt Romney (R)
22 June 2005.
http://nationaljournal.com/pubs/almanac/2006/people/ma/magv.htm
Democrats circulated a news story that Romney, at
a church meeting, had called homosexuality
"perverse"; he denied using the word but said he
opposed all extramarital sex.
acf on 22 November 2006
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2006/11/troubling_evidence_of_social_liberalism_lurking_in_romneys_past.php
Romney has become famous here in MA for saying
anything to get his way, no matter what his true
feelings might be. His flip flops on the abortion issue
are legendary around here, for example. The gay
issue, because of its interest to the conservative
block of voters desired by a Romney candidacy, has
become a ripe target for his crashing rhetoric.
Another thing he is fond of doing is make harsh,
sarcastic statements, either himself, or through his
mouthpieces, then when the inevitable outcry
comes, blame it on being 'misunderstood', or the
words of someone 'not authorized' to speak for him
on this issue. Of course, he has no problem basking
in the intended benefit of the barbs.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
word parsing to heights never seen before. You [i.e., Hugh Hewitt] can
dismiss the MLK story as insignificant, but my guess is that Mitt lies
about not only seeing his father march with Reverend King, BUT
ACTUALLY MARCHING WITH DR. KING HIMSELF IN DETROIT, will cast him as a
duplicitous liar who will say and do anything to get elected. ONE DOES
NOT FORGET MARCHING WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING. Mitt is a liar. He lied
to pander to minority voters."
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
acf on 22 November 2006
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2006/11/troubling_evidence_of_social_liberalism_lurking_in_romneys_past.php
Romney has become famous here in MA for saying
anything to get his way, no matter what his true
feelings might be. His flip flops on the abortion issue
are legendary around here, for example. The gay
issue, because of its interest to the conservative
block of voters desired by a Romney candidacy, has
become a ripe target for his crashing rhetoric.
Another thing he is fond of doing is make harsh,
sarcastic statements, either himself, or through his
mouthpieces, then when the inevitable outcry
comes, blame it on being 'misunderstood', or the
words of someone 'not authorized' to speak for him
on this issue. Of course, he has no problem basking
in the intended benefit of the barbs.
Patashnik, Josh. 20 November 2007. "Latter-Day Skeptics" _The New
Republic_
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=03668296-424a-4878-bd95-209837a30815
And the bolder his [Mitt's] courting
George Grapman
who accepted support from someone who called his religion a cult?
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
'perverse'"
No. I have no idea what Romney thinks.
He himself might not even know.
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
GOV. ROMNEY: .... And, and here's my view. I
don't believe in discriminating against someone
based upon their sexual orientation. And so I would
be effective in trying to bring greater recognition of
the, of the rights of people not, not to be
discriminated against. Let me...
MR. RUSSERT: You said--you said that you would
co-sponsor the...
GOV. ROMNEY: Tim, Tim, Tim...
MR. RUSSERT: Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
This is important.
GOV. ROMNEY: OK, fine.
MR. RUSSERT: You said that you would sponsor
the Employment Nondiscrimination Act. Do you still
support it?
GOV. ROMNEY: At the state level. I think it makes
sense at the state level for states to put in provision
of this.
MR. RUSSERT: Now, you said you would sponsor
it at the federal level.
GOV. ROMNEY: I would not support at the federal
level, and I changed in that regard because I think
that policy makes more sense to be evaluated or to
be implemented at the state level. And let me
describe why.
MR. RUSSERT: So you did--you did change.
GOV. ROMNEY: Oh, Tim, if you're looking for
someone who's never changed any positions on
any policies, then I'm not your guy. I, I do learn
from experience. If you want someone who doesn't
learn from experience, who stubbornly takes a, a
position on, on a particular act and says, "Well, I'm
never changing my view based on what I've
learned," that, that doesn't make sense to me.
MR. RUSSERT: But it seems to be a lot of issues.
Let me give, give you an example. ....
Romney's flip-flops in 7 areas
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
"where last week all your links sought to prove that Romney was pro-
homosexuality?"
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
"Looks like even shills flip-flop."
Are you a 'shill' for Romney?
I recall hearing portions of a 2-day interview of an ex-LDS relative
of Joseph Smith, the interview being done by Hank Hanegraaff on his
'Bible Answer Man' radio program.
The woman being interviewed mentioned something along the lines of, in
LDS theology, there's something significant about a Mormon becoming
President of the U.S.
According to LDS theology, what is significant about a Mormon becoming
President of the U.S.?
LDS Church and the Romney campaign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sG8CnxesY0
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8bSyAihn18
CATO
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0e6b6858-0c5b-4a0a-88d5-c8841acdb1fc%40e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com
His [Romney's] first budget
included no general tax increases but did include a
$500 million increase in various fees. He later
proposed $140 [I assume 'million'] in business tax
hikes through the closing of "loopholes" in the tax
code. ....
In his budget for 2006,
he proposed $170 million more in business tax
hikes, almost completely neutralizing the proposed
income tax cut. If you consider the massive costs to
taxpayers that his universal health care plan will
inflict once he's left office, Romney's tenure is
clearly not a triumph of small-government activism.
'Meet the Press' transcript for Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924
MR. RUSSERT: And we're back with Governor Mitt
Romney.
As you campaign around the country, you talk about
your record in Massachusetts with budgets and
taxes and so forth. The Cato Institute, a
conservative think tank, gave you a C as governor
of Massachusetts. And they say, "His first budget,
presented under the cloud of a $2 billion deficit,
balanced the budget with some spending cuts, but"
"$500 million increase in various fees was the
largest component of the budget fix." The AP says it
this way: "When Romney wanted to balance the
Massachusetts budget, the blind, mentally retarded
and gun owners were asked to help pay. In all,
then-Gov. Romney proposed creating 33 new fees,"
"increasing 57 others." The head of the Bay State
Council of the Blind said that your name was "Fee-
Fee"; that you just raised fee after fee after fee.
That's a tax.
GOV. ROMNEY: Well, let's, let's step back and get
all the numbers right. First of all, it was nearly a $3
billion budget gap that we faced as we came into
office, my team and I. Secondly, we raised fees,
and we generated about $240 million worth of
increased revenue. So of a $3 billion budget gap,
we raised fees of about $240 million. Now, these
were not broad-based fees. I said I'm not going to
go after driver's license fees or automobile fees for
registration because these apply to everybody, and
any...
MR. RUSSERT: Duplicate driver's license fee.
GOV. ROMNEY: Because, because if they're
broad, broad-based, they, they have the--they have
a sense, a feeling like a tax. But a fee is different
than a tax in that it's for a particular service. And we
had some fees that hadn't been changed in over a
decade. For instance, people who had signs on the
interstate pointing out where a gas station was or
where McDonald's was, McDonald's might pay us a
fee of $200 a year for such a sign. We upped that
pretty dramatically. And so, of the roughly $3 billion
of shortfall, we raised fees by about $240 million.
We were able to balance our budget in a very
difficult time without raising taxes...
MR. RUSSERT: A fee's not a tax?
GOV. ROMNEY: A fee--well, a fee--if it were a tax,
it'd be called--it'd be called a tax. But...
MR. RUSSERT: Governor, that's, that's gimmick.
GOV. ROMNEY: No, it's, it's reality. It is. But--and
I have no--I'm not trying to hide from the fact we
raised fees. We raised fees $240 million.
7 September 2007. "'Fee-Fee' Can't Get Free Himself From His Record
on Taxes"
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/09/fee-fee_cant_ge.php
In 1996, Romney personally paid $50,000 to fund a
series of attack ads aimed at Republican
Presidential contender Steve Forbes' flat tax,
arguing that a flat tax benefited the rich because the
plan would not tax income from dividends, interest,
and investment profits. The ad called the tax break
'a tax cut for fat cats.'
Romney: flat tax "a TAX CUT for FAT CATS!"
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/mitt_romney_is.html
Gerry Ford
<dfo...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:23a78e88-4d1a-47bd...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Romney hit hard on MSNBC -Taxes, Flip-flops, & Social Issues
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8bSyAihn18
I don't think I'm unusual to think that Romney's party has soiled itself and
deserves no shot at the white house this time around, when this country so
desperately needs to reverse the lawlessness, fraud and profiteering of
Bush/Cheney.
That said, I think Mitt's the only one that can make it a ballgame. The
things that people criticize him for for the sake of the republican vote are
things the rest of us like, e.g. fiscal conservatism. That means making
what you spend equal what you take in in revenue: taxes, fees,
confiscations, whatever. (Tim Russert pisses me off sometimes.)
That he's flip-flopped on abortion is just right for those us who want it
safe, legal and rare.
The worst is that the man might be as good-looking as I am, although
certainly not my size and strength. He makes up for that by not being
camera-shy. He looks as good as Reagan did when Gorbachev came to Reykjavik
and saw him atop the stairs, smiling resplendentally in his blue suit.
I want a Republican candidate with Huckabee's education, Thompson's youth,
Rudi's stature, Paul's influence in his own caucus, McCain's funding and
Mitt's religion: a crappy, corporate one.
--
Ford
"If they took all the "and it came to pass's" out of the BoM, it would be a
pamphlet"
~ Twain Maine
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"I don't want liberalism inched forward."
What's your stance on the issue of outlawing discrimination on the
basis of sexual orientation?
Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientation
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=06bdb44e-7578-4dd6-833c-8f0a00b1aa29%4025g2000hsu.googlegroups.com
"I think Mitt would do the best job fighting liberalism, taxes, bigger
government etc."
What leads you to think that? His record as MA governor?
all sorts of people are going after Romney-- 2:50+, followed by
subject of governors e.g. Romney & Carter morphing their views for
presidential runs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBCSEBw0JJY&feature=related
Fee-Fee Romney's Taxes & Fees
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=23a78e88-4d1a-47bd-8a7a-60aa8109e297%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
What do you think of Romney's judicial appointments?
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
David Limbaugh's ignorance.
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
Tony Blankley and Michael Medved defending Huckabee against elite
conservatives.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Do you consider Romney generally truthful?
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Sanders Kaufman
news:1198290...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> The things that people criticize him for for the sake of the republican
> vote are things the rest of us like, e.g. fiscal conservatism.
You may *like* borrowing money from the Communists to fund tax breaks.
But it's certainly not very conservative.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
are in a jihadist global war."
video of Huckabee: the radical Islamic fascists can't be negotiated
with;
our civilization's existence is at stake;
we must win this war http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=871
Blankley, Tony. 19 December 2007. "None of the Above: GOP Heading to
a Brokered Convention"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/TonyBlankley/2007/12/19/none_of_the_above_gop_heading_to_a_brokered_convention?page=full&comments=true#postComments
In short, it sounds in places a little squishy and
insufficiently "nuanced."
On the other hand, he [Huckabee] is for a rapid
major increase in the size of the military. He is in
favor of military action, if necessary, to deny Iran a
nuclear bomb. He demands that we stay and fight
and win in Iraq. And his discussion of the risk from
radical Islam is as tough and realistic as I have
heard. In fact, as the author of a book that was
judged alarmist by some on the topic of radical
Islam ("The West's Last Chance: Will We Win the
Clash of Civilizations?"), I could find little to
complain about in his long discussion of the topic.
==
In a dangerous world such as ours, I would like to
hear more (and more careful) words from
Huckabee. But basically he seems to be a hawk--
and thus not beyond the Republican pale (although
his hawkish ways come with a perhaps-rhetorical
bow to the current nervousness of needed
independent and suburban Republican voters).
Wexford
> what leads you to think that? Romney's record as MA governor?
>
> "I don't want liberalism inched forward."
>
> What's your stance on the issue of outlawing discrimination on the
> basis of sexual orientation?
>
>
> "I think Mitt would do the best job fighting liberalism, taxes, bigger
> government etc."
>
> What leads you to think that? His record as MA governor?
>
> all sorts of people are going after Romney-- 2:50+, followed by
> subject of governors e.g. Romney & Carter morphing their views for
>
> Fee-Fee Romney's Taxes & Feeshttp://groups.google.com/groups?selm=23a78e88-4d1a-47bd-8a7a-60aa8109...
>
> What do you think of Romney's judicial appointments?
>
>
> David Limbaugh's ignorance.
> Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
> agenda, campaign finance reform,
> gun control, LDS theology.
> Tony Blankley and Michael Medved defending Huckabee against elite
>
> Do you consider Romney generally truthful?
>
> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
> abortion record"http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
>
>
> Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapeshttp://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c...
Romney doesn't stand a chance. Southern Baptists won't vote for a
Mormon, so he'd cripple the GOP by alienating the South. Aside from
that he's filpped and flopped so much no one knows where he stands.
Finally, he's another draft dodger, a chickenhawk. While that hasn't
stopped others from winning elections, if he ran in the South, he'd
have a hard time explaining to the Baptists why he was draft deferred
while doing his teenage stint as a Mormon "missionary," and how he
subsequently never served.
Gerry Ford
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:Np%aj.71374$RX....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
with regard to it.
So it is we have candidate Reagan, who will come to reduce the stack of
bills of US debt that would "reach to the moon." There are 2 things that
fiscal conservatives can do: raise taxes, cut spending. Reagan lowers
taxes and opens the federal checkbook for unchecked military spending.
We have Bush the Elder. He raises taxes to close the budget gap. His party
never forgives him.
Now we have Bush the Younger, who remembers darn well of these events. He,
as the head of the Republican Party, is Reagan's legacy as the opposite of
fiscally conservative.
--
Ford
"If they took all the "and it came to pass's" out of the BoM, it would be a
pamphlet"
~ Twain
3 Republican Square
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Underbelly extract "Huckabee panic exposes phony conservative
coalition."
Underbelly. 17 December 2007. The Huckabee Panic: A Footnote
http://underbelly-buce.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabee-panic-footnote.html
Carpetbagger has a typically thorough and astute
"literature review" up, summarizing the right's
conniption fit over Mike Huckabee (link), but let me
add a footnote: I think it shows just how phony this
whole "conservative coalition" really is. The GOP
establishment is perfectly willing to give away the
store on throwaway issues (!) like abortion and
school prayer. But when a genuine, true-blue, take-
no-prisoners evangelical joins the race, their small
intestines turn to water. I don't feel any special
sympathy for the evangelical leadership who have
played the logrolling game as cynically as anybody.
But if I were a mainline working-stuff born-again, I'd
be feeling used & abused right now, wondering who
my real friends are.
Perhaps Tedious Explanatory Footnote: The
establishment has been willing to give away the
store on abortion and school prayer because they
know neither will ever affect them personally--the
pro-life movement is about denying abortions to
poor women, not to the daughters of the elite, and
you can perfectly well opt out of school prayer by
sending your kid to the right kind of private school.
Gay marriage is, I admit, a tougher nut to crack: the
establishment knows that the establishment couldn't
get off its dime without the tweendecks
infrastructure of conservative gays. My guess is that
they've been gambling on the proposition that the
issue will pass; that we are pretty close to realizing
that they're here, they're queer, and we might as
well deal with it. I remember what my old girlfriend
used to say about the Virgin Mary: oy, happens in
the best Jewish families.
17 December 2007. The 'Huckabee Panic' revisited
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13955.html
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
December 2007. "Romney should not be the next president"
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071222/OPINION/712230301
Add it all up and you get Mitt Romney, a disquieting
figure who sure looks like the next president and
most surely must be stopped.
==
His memoir is called Turnaround - the story of his
successful rescue of the 2002 Winter Olympics in
Salt Lake City - but the most stunning turnaround he
has engineered is his own political career.
If you followed only his tenure as governor of
Massachusetts, you might imagine Romney as a
pragmatic moderate with liberal positions on
numerous social issues and an ability to work well
with Democrats. If you followed only his campaign
for president, you'd swear he was a red-meat
conservative, pandering to the religious right,
whatever the cost. Pay attention to both, and you're
left to wonder if there's anything at all at his core.
==
People can change, and intransigence is not
necessarily a virtue. But Romney has yet to explain
this particular set of turnarounds in a way that
convinces voters they are based on anything other
than his own ambition.
==
When New Hampshire partisans are asked to
defend the state's first-in-the-nation primary, we talk
about our ability to see the candidates up close, ask
tough questions and see through the baloney. If a
candidate is a phony, we assure ourselves and the
rest of the world, we'll know it.
Mitt Romney is such a candidate. New Hampshire
Republicans and independents must vote no.
///////////////////////////////////////////////
David Limbaugh's ignorance.
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
Tony Blankley and Michael Medved defending Huckabee against elite
conservatives.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientation
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
Bank, Justin and Lori Robertson, of factcheck.org. 19 December 2007.
"Romney on Huckabee II
Romney attacks Huckabee again with false and misleading claims."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949
This item should have mentioned Romney's bogus 'I took only pro-life
steps in office' claims:
Luo, Michael. 22 December 2007. "Romney Learns That 'Facts Are
Stubborn Things'" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/us/politics/21cnd-romney.html?hp
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/members.htm
and is cited in
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573355/posts
Romney is mentioned in the 2nd to last line:
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Sen. John McCain, Arizona
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Sen. Olympia Snowe, Maine
Sen. Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania
Rep. Charles Bass, New Hampshire
Rep. Judy Biggert, Illinois
Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, New York
Rep. Mary Bono, California
Rep. Jeb Bradley, New Hampshire
Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida
Rep. Ken Calvert, California
Rep. Dave Camp, Michigan
Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia
Rep. Michael Castle, Delaware
Rep. Thomas Davis, III, Virginia
Rep. Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania
Rep. David Dreier, California
Rep. Vernon Ehlers, Michigan
Rep. Mark Foley, Florida
Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, New Jersey
Rep. Jim Gerlach, Pennsylvania
Rep. Wayne Gilchrest, Maryland
Rep. Paul Gillmor, Ohio
Rep. Kay Granger, Texas
Rep. David Hobson, Ohio
Rep. Nancy Johnson, Connecticut
Rep. Timothy Johnson, Illinois
Rep. Sue Kelly, New York
Rep. John R. Kuhl, New York
Rep. Mark Kirk, Illinois
Rep. Jim Kolbe, Arizona
Rep. Ray LaHood, Illinois
Rep. Steven LaTourette, Ohio
Rep. Jim Leach, Iowa
Rep. Jerry Lewis, California
Rep. Frank LoBiondo, New Jersey
Rep. Jim McCrery, Louisiana
Rep. Thomas Petri, Wisconsin
Rep. Todd Platts, Pennsylvania
Rep. Jon Porter, Nevada
Rep. Deborah Pryce, Ohio
Rep. Jim Ramstad, Minnesota
Rep. Ralph Regula, Ohio
Rep. Joe Schwarz, Michigan
Rep. Christopher Shays, Connecticut
Rep. Robert Simmons, Connecticut
Rep. Michael Turner, Ohio
Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan
Rep. Greg Walden, Oregon
Rep. James Walsh, New York
Rep. Curt Weldon, Pennsylvania
Rep. Jerry Weller, Illinois
Rep. Heather Wilson, New Mexico
Gov. Robert Ehrlich, Maryland
Gov. Linda Lingle, Hawaii
Gov. George Pataki, New York
Gov. Mitt Romney, Massachusetts
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, California
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Romney
Advocates for gay and abortion rights and the environment say the GOP
candidate misled them on his positions." _Los Angeles Times_
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/25/78/
Making personal appeals on the state's liberal
touchstones-- gay rights, abortion rights and the
environment-- Romney developed a persuasive
style, convincing audiences that his passion
matched theirs and that he was committed to their
causes.
He impressed environmentalists by using rhetoric
sharper than theirs. He met gay-rights activists on
their turf, in a restaurant attached to a popular gay
bar, and told skeptics he would be a "good voice"
and a moderating force within his party.
And in many cases, he said his commitment had
been cemented by watching the suffering of
someone dear to him: a grandchild whose asthma
left him worried about air pollution; his wife's
multiple sclerosis, which had him placing hope in
embryonic stem cell research; the death of a distant
relative in an illegal abortion, convincing him that
the procedure needed to remain legal.
In discussing the need to combat global warming,
he said he worried about his family's favorite
vacation spot.
"He talked a lot about his kids and his family and the
place they go to in New Hampshire on vacation,"
said Cindy Luppi, an official from the group Clean
Water Action, who was impressed by Romney's
concern about global warming in a 2003 meeting--
and later disappointed when he unexpectedly pulled
the state out of a regional compact on greenhouse
gases.
"We really see these as promises that were made
and broken, and an ethical breach for a person of
faith who had worked really hard to create this
public image as an upright kind of a family guy."
==
Environmental surprise
After he won the 2002 election, Romney continued
his courtship of the state's liberal interest groups.
For example, he directed his staff to draw up an
aggressive plan to combat climate change, pleasing
environmentalists.
Weeks after taking office, the new governor led an
army of staffers and activists to Salem, north of
Boston, for a news conference outside a coal-fired
power plant. He was there to demand that the plant
draft a cleanup plan by the next year.
The new governor said something that struck the
environmental activists as remarkable. "I will not
create jobs or hold jobs that kill people," Romney
said in a heated exchange. "And that plant-- that
plant kills people."
"I thought, 'Whoa, I wouldn't even say that,'"
recalled Lori Ehrlich, a local activist who wanted the
plant cleanup.
Several months afterward, Romney again displayed
a commitment to environmental causes when he
met with religious leaders to discuss his forthcoming
plan to combat climate change, a 50-page
document that Romney himself had edited, making
line-by-line changes.
Sister Tess Browne, a Roman Catholic nun, said
she was particularly moved during the meeting
when Romney spoke of his concerns that global
warming would jeopardize not just U.S. coastal
cities but those in poorer countries, such as
Bangladesh.
Romney told the group he was "terrified" about
global warming, a phenomenon he described as
"quite alarming," according to notes taken by one of
the participants, Nancy Davidge of the Episcopal
Divinity School at Harvard University.
Then, in December 2005, Romney surprised even
his own staff by pulling the plug on a key element of
his environmental agenda. Romney withdrew
Massachusetts from the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative agreement with other Northeastern states.
Though Romney's team had taken a lead role in
crafting it, the plan could prove too costly to power-
plant owners and consumers, the governor said.
==
Some activists say they were misled. "I thought we
had sat down with him in good faith," said Browne.
"It seemed as though he was making a
commitment."
Romney's pullout from the regional deal was
welcomed by business leaders, and it came at a
politically sensitive time. The same day of his
decision, Romney announced that he was not
running for reelection as governor, a suggestion that
he would soon focus on the White House.
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minimum wage, in
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
7 September 2007. "'Fee-Fee' Can't Get Free Himself From His Record
on Taxes'
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/09/fee-fee_cant_ge.php
In 1996, Romney personally paid $50,000 to fund a
series of attack ads aimed at Republican
Presidential contender Steve Forbes' flat tax,
arguing that a flat tax benefited the rich because the
plan would not tax income from dividends, interest,
and investment profits. The ad called the tax break
'a tax cut for fat cats.'
Romney: flat tax "a TAX CUT for FAT CATS!"
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/mitt_romney_is.html
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Concord Monitor: Romney is a phony
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=222b33a4-9a6e-4a6f-8a44-43c2fb31f842%40i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
at
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/09/ap/health/mainD8ECCSCO1.shtml
Gov. Mitt Romney abandoned plans Thursday to
exempt Roman Catholic and other private hospitals
from a new law requiring them to dispense
emergency contraception to rape victims.
Romney had initially backed regulations proposed
earlier this week by his public health commissioner,
Paul Cote Jr., who said the new law conflicted with
an older law barring the state from forcing private
hospitals to dispense contraceptive devices or
information.
The Republican governor, who is considering a run
for president in 2008, said he asked his legal
advisers to review the matter after members of both
parties criticized the regulations. He said the
lawyers determined that the new law superseded
the old law and that all hospitals should be required
to offer the so-called "morning-after pill."
"On that basis I have instructed the Department of
Public Health to follow the conclusion of my own
legal counsel and to adopt that sounder view,"
Romney said.
"In my personal view, it's the right thing for hospitals
to provide information and access to emergency
contraception to anyone who is a victim of rape," he
added.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientation
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=06bdb44e-7578-4dd6-833c-8f0a00b1aa29%4025g2000hsu.googlegroups.com
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Romney flip-flop on environmental issues;
Romney: "that [coal-fired power] plant kills people"; global warming
"quite alarming"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
only one that CLEARLY has a plan for the military that he's defined
since early in his campaign."
Details about that "plan for the military that he's defined since
early in his campaign"?
Klein, Joe. 31 May 2007. "Romney's Disappointing Campaign"
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1626721,00.html
But his [Romney's] speed of delivery also has an
element of sleight of hand. He moves so quickly,
it's often hard to notice that there's not much
nutrition being offered and much that is being
avoided. He never mentions Iraq in his stump
speech. He talks-- well, offers one sentence-- about
the challenge of "global Islamic jihad." And
because he doesn't dwell on it, his audiences don't.
On a late-May New Hampshire swing, he cruised
through two performances before the word Iraq
perforated his balloon. And then it was a high
school student, who simply asked, "What would you
do about Iraq?"
Romney offered a welter of details, of Sunnis and
Shi'ites and Kurds, which sounded sort of
knowledgeable but was actually quite superficial--
he said there was a risk that Iran would "take over"
the Shi'ite areas, which is entirely unlikely-- until
finally, heading into the home stretch, he got to the
point: he would support the President.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"He voted for life once he had to make the choice."
Do you know when Romney was last pro-choice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQbeBC_fOI
For how long has Romney been pro-life?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPboc61AZes
27 May 2005 Romney on Stem Cell Veto -- 3:18 -3:34: I've kept promise
to preserve status quo of abortion in MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gP3kJLFh7s
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney flips, & backs forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense morning-
after abortion pill
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e6675e4-6f6e-4c84-b1a1-5d3a743d140e%4021g2000hsj.googlegroups.com
mercy...@gmail.com
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/06/nh_woman_challenges_romney_on_gay_marriage/
There are other ways to raise kids that's fine: single
moms, grandparents raising kids, gay couples
raising kids. That's the American way, to have
people have their freedom of choice....
Romney's View Of Gay Couples Having Children
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jeCzkEFx_8o
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/229199.php
Romney does seem to have a habit of glibly wrong-
footing it in an effort to pander to virtually anyone
he's speaking to. The various parts of this statement
seem hard to reconcile. If it's so wonderful this gay
woman is raising kids, why not extend marriage to
her? And if it's so important to preserve the
traditional family, why praise hers as "wonderful"
and "the American way"?
I certainly wouldn't have insulted the woman, and
I'm not suggesting Romney should have. But I keep
getting this read off Romney that his superficial
positions have absolutely no intellectual
undergirding to them. Eggshell conservativism -- the
surface is smooth and cool, but be careful not to
apply any pressure to it, else it crack and spill out a
big gooey mess.
babeejm
> Romney, cited inhttp://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/06/nh_woman_challe...
> There are other ways to raise kids that's fine: single
> moms, grandparents raising kids, gay couples
> raising kids. That's the American way, to have
> people have their freedom of choice....
>
>
> http://ace.mu.nu/archives/229199.php
> Romney does seem to have a habit of glibly wrong-
> footing it in an effort to pander to virtually anyone
> he's speaking to. The various parts of this statement
> seem hard to reconcile. If it's so wonderful this gay
> woman is raising kids, why not extend marriage to
> her? And if it's so important to preserve the
> traditional family, why praise hers as "wonderful"
> and "the American way"?
>
> I certainly wouldn't have insulted the woman, and
> I'm not suggesting Romney should have. But I keep
> getting this read off Romney that his superficial
> positions have absolutely no intellectual
> undergirding to them. Eggshell conservativism -- the
> surface is smooth and cool, but be careful not to
> apply any pressure to it, else it crack and spill out a
> big gooey mess.
>
>
> Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientationhttp://groups.google.com/groups?selm=06bdb44e-7578-4dd6-833c-8f0a00b1...
>
> Romney's stellar judicial appointmentshttp://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06c...
>Was this guy brainwashed or wasn't he brainwashed? Like daddy George once
intimated about himself.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
18 February 2007. "Mitt Romney: The Complete Interview
'This Week's' George Stephanopoulos Sits Down with Republican
Candidate" ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2885156
Mitt Romney: Well, we [i.e., Romney and Romney's
wife Ann] were different with regards to issues of
choice and abortion over the last decade or two and
I've been looking at it from the standpoint of a
governmental role and she's looked at it as a mom
and she's been pretty consistently pro-life over the
entire period.
Compare:
18 December 2007. "Romney Attended Planned Parenthood Fundraiser in
1994"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/romney-attended.html
That [1994] event, Nichols Gamble ["then president
and CEO of the Planned Parenthood League of
Massachusetts"] said, was the occasion where Ann
Romney wrote her $150 check -- drafted on a joint
checking account she had with her husband -- to
Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts.
Glover, Mike, of The Associated Press. 9 May 2007. "Romney: Wife
Donated to Pro-Choice Group"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/09/AR2007050902263_pf.html
AMES, Iowa -- GOP presidential candidate Mitt
Romney said Wednesday reports that his wife
donated $150 to Planned Parenthood in 1994 aren't
surprising given his position on abortion at the time.
==
"Her contributions are for her and not for me,"
Romney said before a campaign appearance in
Iowa. "Her positions are not terrible relevant to my
campaign." Romney volunteered that wife, Ann, is
now one of the heads of Massachusetts Citizens for
Life, a leading anti-abortion group.
==
The former Massachusetts governor also gave
$15,000 to Massachusetts Citizens for Life last
December, prompting questions of bias in the
group's award decision.
"There's no shortage of irony here," said Lisa
Dacey, spokeswoman for the Planned Parenthood
Advocacy Fund. "He is somebody who will say
anything and change his mind a great deal to get
elected. He did that here in Massachusetts and we
have no doubt he will do that in the presidential race
as well."
[2007 Romney]"Her positions are not terrible relevant to my
campaign."
Compare
18 December 2007. "Romney Attended Planned Parenthood Fundraiser in
1994"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/romney-attended.html
ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: Mitt Romney
attended a fund-raising reception for Planned
Parenthood in 1994 in conjunction with a $150
donation his wife made to the organization....
In the photograph obtained by ABC News, Romney
and his wife, Ann, are shown in a yellow-and-white
tent chatting with local political activists, including
Nicki Nichols Gamble, who was then president and
CEO of the Planned Parenthood League of
Massachusetts.
2002 Romneys briefly on abortion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwVNUz52vo
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Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney flips, & backs forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense morning-
after abortion pill
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e6675e4-6f6e-4c84-b1a1-5d3a743d140e%4021g2000hsj.googlegroups.com
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney flip-flop on environmental issues
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
'This Week's' George Stephanopoulos Sits Down with Republican
Candidate" ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2885156
direction.
As you get older and you have experience -- I ran
for office the first time, never having been in politics,
13 years ago against Ted Kennedy and since then
I've learned a few more things.
I proposed, at that time, for instance, that we
eliminate the Department of Education. A lot of
conservatives thought that was a great idea.
I don't think that's a good idea anymore. I think we
need the Department of Education. I think "No Child
Left Behind" is performing a useful function in
providing for testing.
It has a lot of errors in it and I'd like to change it, but
I like the fact that we're testing our kids.
Sanders Kaufman
news:b8112cc4-a3f8-43fb...@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> I proposed, at that time, for instance, that we
> eliminate the Department of Education. A lot of
> conservatives thought that was a great idea.
>
> I don't think that's a good idea anymore. I think we
> need the Department of Education.
This is why it's so much wiser to judge the Libertarians, Republicans and
other rednecks on their *actions* rather than their *words*.
Even they themselves can't stand behind their *words*.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Who knows.
> Are you trying to say or imply that Huckabee or McCain
> are going to be better than Mitt on cutting costs?
No. Do you think Romney didn't raise taxes in MA?
/////////////////////////////////////////////////
18 February 2007. "Mitt Romney: The Complete Interview
'This Week's' George Stephanopoulos Sits Down with Republican
Candidate" ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2885156
Mitt Romney: .... So I've become a believer.
The older I get, the smarter Ronald Reagan
gets.
And when I ran for governor, there's no
question, the principles that Ronald Reagan
espoused were the basis of my campaign. I
said I would not raise taxes, despite a $3
billion deficit in our state.
==
Mitt Romney: Well, when I ran for governor, it
was pretty clear that I was going to be an anti-
tax governor. I said I wouldn't raise taxes and
I was very clear about that, and I didn't raise
taxes.
I did everything in my power to balance what I
thought was going to be a $1 billion budget
gap that turned out to be a $3 billion budget
gap, but we did not raise taxes.
Fee-Fee Romney's Taxes & Fees
> Get real.
>
> Huckabee is a liberal on giving subsidized college
> education to illegal immigrants for god sake.
Do you think Romney "is a liberal on giving" funding for "education to
illegal immigrants"?
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Romney On Sanctuary Cities-- 0:50 - 1:05: advocates cutting funding
to sanctuary cities (which he didn't do when MA governor), and is OK
with funding illegals' emergency health care and education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BnOPpQnHFc
Romney calls Ted Kennedy co-collaborator on health care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4r9dMP21hM
> You're just nit-picking Mitt. If you really cared about
> ridding the Dept. of Ed., you wouldn't be tearing down
> Romney and handing the Presidency to the Dems.
In your view, which governor has a better record on taxes:
Romney, or Huckabee?
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Michael Medved: AR tax growth w/ Huckabee tad better than Romney MA
taxes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2d1d6b5f-7d2a-4ba4-af38-ce935abe2d7c%40e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
28 November 2007 Dick Morris
"Mike Huckabee is a fiscal conservative"
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/mike-huckabee-is-a-fiscal-conservative-2007-11-28.html
Huckabee reply to taxes & spending criticism--
4:23 on the video, to the video's end.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zgc-R9iAWhg&feature=related
Greenberg, Paul. 12 November 2007.
"Who is Huckabee? Preacher, populist, problem-solver and . . .
president?."
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/greenberg121207.php3
The Club has a point-- but only on paper. When
you compare the dramatic tax cuts enacted early in
the Huckabee administration here in Arkansas with
the later tax increases, you come up with some
$500 million in additional taxes. An impressive
amount.
But on closer examination, it turns out that some
$400 million, or four-fifths of the total, went to carry
out the state Supreme Court's order in the Lake
View case and keep Arkansas' schools
constitutional. Mike Huckabee had little choice in
the matter if he was going to obey the law. Some
did urge him to defy the state's highest court, but
this isn't Orval Faubus' Arkansas any more.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Romney, cited in
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/06/nh_woman_challenges_romney_on_gay_marriage/
There are other ways to raise kids that's fine: single
moms, grandparents raising kids, gay couples
raising kids. That's the American way, to have
people have their freedom of choice....
Romney's View Of Gay Couples Having Children
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jeCzkEFx_8o
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/229199.php
Romney does seem to have a habit of glibly wrong-
footing it in an effort to pander to virtually anyone
he's speaking to. The various parts of this statement
seem hard to reconcile. If it's so wonderful this gay
woman is raising kids, why not extend marriage to
her? And if it's so important to preserve the
traditional family, why praise hers as "wonderful"
and "the American way"?
I certainly wouldn't have insulted the woman, and
I'm not suggesting Romney should have. But I keep
getting this read off Romney that his superficial
positions have absolutely no intellectual
undergirding to them. Eggshell conservativism -- the
surface is smooth and cool, but be careful not to
apply any pressure to it, else it crack and spill out a
big gooey mess.
18 February 2007. "Mitt Romney: The Complete Interview
'This Week's' George Stephanopoulos Sits Down with Republican
Candidate" ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=2885156
Stephanopoulos: I was going to ask you about that,
because in 2005, in South Carolina, you actually
seemed to mock the idea of gays and lesbians
adopting and bearing children.
Mitt Romney: No, that wasn't my intent. I know one
quote said I made the point that gay couples are
even having children and there's been a lot of
attention.
I think it wasn't apparent immediately to me that two
people of the same gender would be having
children. Biologically, that doesn't work, unless, of
course, there are donors, and I've made that point
to the audience.
I don't mean to mock that in any way and I know we
have gay adoption in Massachusetts. Other states
do. It's a decision made by state-by-state--
Stephanopoulos: Are you for it?
Mitt Romney: --there are gay couples that are
having children of their own and, obviously, that's
their right.
But my belief is that the ideal setting for a child is
where there's a mom and a dad.
Stephanopoulos: So you don't share the concern of
some Evangelicals, like James Dobson, with Mary
Cheney's announcement that she was going to
have a child.
Mitt Romney: My view is that the right model for the
nation and the right standard for the nation is
marriage is between a man and a woman and a
child deserves a mom and a dad.
Stephanopoulos: Let's talk about guns.
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Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientation
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
"The Making of Mitt Romney
Ambitious goals; shifting stances" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part7_main?mode=PF
After his failure to elect more Republican legislators
in the 2004 campaign, Mitt Romney met with the
Globe's editorial board and made a surprising
declaration: No longer could he put so much time
into promoting his party.
''From now on, it's me-me-me,'' he said.
==
''For four years, Governor Romney has been right
there beside us, providing leadership on key issues
- whether it was politically expedient to do so or
not,'' Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts
Family Institute, wrote in a letter to conservatives
early this year.
But where conservatives saw leadership [how much
$$$ did this Massachusetts Family Institute get from
Romney?], skeptics - even some Republicans - saw
opportunism, believing Romney's political agenda
contributed to the further decline of the GOP in
Massachusetts, which saw its numbers dwindle to
historic lows of 19 House members and five
senators, out of the 200-member Legislature.
''It's almost as though he had his eye on higher
office very early into his governorship. I think it
ended up hurting his performance as governor, and
the fortunes of the party in general,'' said Senate
minority leader Richard R.Tisei, of Wakefield, a
supporter of Rudy Giuliani in the presidential race
and one of four Republican state legislators who are
not backing Romney.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Mooney, Brian C., Stephanie Ebbert, and Scott Helman. 30 June 2007.
"The Making of Mitt Romney
Ambitious goals; shifting stances" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part7_main?mode=PF
They conceived the Commonwealth PAC, a political
action committee that enabled Romney to travel the
country with a checkbook, currying favor with
Republican leaders by contributing to their
campaigns and causes.
Romney's advisers organized the PAC in an
innovative way, setting up affiliates in six key states
- including some states with no limits on
contributions, which allowed Romney's wealthy
associates to give five- and six-figure sums. In all,
the PAC raised $8.8 million and doled out $1.3
million, much of it in key presidential-primary states.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Romney on Campaign Finance Reform: cap spending levels in campaigns,
abolish PACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
(Republicans in Name Only)"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=11129
1. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R.I.)
==
2. Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine)
==
3. Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.)
==
4. Sen. Susan Collins (Maine)
==
5. Rep. Christopher Shays (Conn.)
==
6. Gov. George Pataki (N.Y.)
==
7. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (N.Y.)
==
8. Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.)
Has said, "I believe that abortion should be safe and
legal in this country." Supports civil unions and
stringent gun laws. After visiting Houston, he
criticized the city's aesthetics, saying, "This is what
happens when you don't have zoning."
9. Rep. Michael Castle (Del.)
As president of the moderate Republican Main
Street Partnership and key player in the so-called
Tuesday Group lunches, he is a ring-leader of
RINOs. He's teamed with Democrats to make
federal funding of embryonic stem cell research one
of his top priorities.
10. Rep. Jim Leach (Iowa)
One of only six House Republicans to vote against
the Iraq War resolution in 2002, he was also the
only Republican to vote against President Bush's
2003 tax cuts. His support for environmental causes
and abortion rights has won him liberal fans.
Every one of those 10 RINOs-- including the RINO Romney-- was a member
of the Republican Main Street Partnership.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c950b53d-1270-42c0-970f-5ef079071753%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
gay adoption exemption" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/02/17/bishops_dealt_setback_in_pursuit_of_gay_adoption_exemption?mode=PF
Governor Mitt Romney and a legislative leader
yesterday delivered unwelcome news to the
Catholic bishops of Massachusetts, who plan to
seek permission from the state to exclude gay and
lesbian parents from adopting children through its
social service agencies.
The governor said he was not authorized to give
such an exemption, and State Representative
Eugene L. O'Flaherty, the House chairman of the
joint committee on the judiciary, predicted little
support among lawmakers for any request by
Catholic adoption agencies for an exemption from
the state's antidiscrimination policies.
==
Meanwhile, the bishops' hope of getting help from
Romney, who is a strong opponent of gay marriage,
was dashed yesterday. Romney said that when he
read the story in the Globe yesterday morning, he
asked his legal counsel to research whether he had
the authority to exempt an organization from
regulations governing the placement of children with
same sex couples.
''My understanding is that any exemption would
require legislation and would not be something I
would be authorized to do on a personal basis," the
governor said. He did not express his own view on
the issue.
Romney for & anti- outlawing discrimination over sexual orientation
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=06bdb44e-7578-4dd6-833c-8f0a00b1aa29%4025g2000hsu.googlegroups.com
"Romney, who is a strong opponent of gay marriage"
Not exactly.
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
/////////////////////////////////////
Romney: "gay couples raising kids....the American way"
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/01/29/the-romney-attack-on-brownback/
Also at
http://www.prolifefederation.org/custom3.asp
July 12, 2001
Mitt's Four 'Nots'
The Salt Lake Tribune
Given your recent article regarding my possible future in politics,
I'd like to add four "nots" to the story.
1) I'm not considering a run for political office in Utah. As I've
said many times over the last year, my Olympics job is far too
compelling and demanding to allow me to give consideration to what
I'll do when it is complete. In all likelihood, I'll return to
Massachusetts.
2) I will not change from Republican to Democrat. I'm a Republican, I
come from a long line of Republicans, and I will not consider
abandoning my Republican roots.
3) I do not wish to be labeled pro choice. I have never felt
comfortable with the labels associated with the abortion issue.
Because the Olympics is not about politics, I plan to keep my views on
political issues to myself.
4) Because I am not in the Olympics for politics, I'm not going to get
bogged down in political issues or political speculation. I came to
the Olympics because I believed I could make a contribution to the
Olympic movement, to the country and to Utah. I came because I
believe the Olympics is one of the last great demonstrations of peace
on the world stage. Like tens of thousands of other Utahns, I am a
volunteer.
MITT ROMNEY
Salt Lake City
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Compare
Romney on Abortion - 2002-- 5:21 long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney flips, & backs forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense morning-
after abortion pill
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e6675e4-6f6e-4c84-b1a1-5d3a743d140e%4021g2000hsj.googlegroups.com
Romney Fairytale video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7y1HMZNJy0
Also at
http://artlaction.com
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Depicting Spy Program as Asset" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/23/politics/23spy.html?pagewanted=print
A number of Republicans have joined Democrats in
challenging the surveillance program
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Senator Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania
Republican and chairman of the Judiciary
Committee, is planning hearings on the surveillance
program. And in an interview on Fox News on
Sunday, Senator John McCain of Arizona said he
did not think the president had the legal authority for
this operation, adding that the White House should
seek Congressional approval to alter the 1978
provisions if it thinks they are not working now.
Mr. McCain also came to the defense of Democrats
in response to Mr. Rove's suggestion that they were
not committed to the nation's security. "Do I think
that the president's leadership has been worthy of
support of our party and our leadership?" he said.
"Yes. But there's too many good Democrats over
there who are as concerned about national security
and work just as hard as I do."
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The political complexity of the issue was reflected in
remarks by Governor Mitt Romney of
Massachusetts, a Republican, who, like Mr. Kerry,
is considering a run for president. Speaking by
telephone on a trip to Iowa, Mr. Romney at first
offered full support for the president's surveillance
program.
"The eavesdropping is a big matter on the coasts for
people who are inclined to dislike the president," Mr.
Romney said. "The great majority of Americans
think it is the president's first responsibility to protect
the lives of the American citizens in an urgent
setting where there is a threat of terrorism."
But Mr. Romney called back a few moments later to
make clear that he would have a different view if the
program were found to be unlawful.
"I would never suggest that the president should
break the law," he said. "My guess is, my
assumption is, he did not break the law. The
president has a responsibility to follow the law,
which I believe is likely to be found, but he also has
a primary responsibility to protect the American
people."
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excellent article "Mitt missing convictions"
control - f/ "find" for: bucki
http://www.prolifefederation.org/custom3.asp
Romney: I can't help Catholic bishops on issue of state forcing
Catholics to place adoption children with homosexuals
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ef1f479b-a2f0-4357-835b-cc3e4ad55242%40c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com
Romney, McCain, and Specter members of Republican Main Street
Partnership
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c950b53d-1270-42c0-970f-5ef079071753%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
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occurred, how it occurred, and why it occurred. We have to make
judgments about the credibility of a politician making a conversion,
based on their records, recent statements, and ultimately, character.
You can accept it or not."
Lowry, Rich. 29 January 2007. "The Romney Speech"
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTU0NzEyZjIzMTI5YzZiYjgxMjY3MTM4YTIzMjY4NTA=
His [Romney's] account of how he came to change
his view on abortion-- through the issue of stem-cell
research-- isn't very compelling and he would
probably be better off not talking about it at all.
Fairly or not, people aren't going to believe it.
Re: a bogus claim in a Romney-prepared speech:
Tammy Bruce: Romney's fantasies become reality to him: 2:00+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlHy-2Er1I
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
Also:
Romney: McCain's bill gives, and doesn't give, amnesty to illegals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtlC4g96ck
In a Meet the Press interview, Romney said he got an NRA endorsement--
when he didn't.
In response to a question about guns, he claimed that he was a
lifelong hunter, when he wasn't.
Romney regularly makes the bogus claim that he took only pro-life
steps while in office.
Romney broke his promise to have the minimum wage increase with
inflation's increase. He broke that promise to unions because, you
guessed it, he wanted to have the support of big business in
Republican Party nomination contests.
In connection with his 2002 campaign for MA governor, Romney met with
pro-choice and homosexual (and environmental) activists, and broke his
campaign promises to them. He broke those campaign promises because
he decided to try to win in Presidential primaries having socially-
conservative voters.
If Romney gets the nomination, nobody knows what positions he'll adopt
before the general election in an ultimately-futile effort to win in
November.
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Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
Wallsten, Peter. 25 March 2007. "Activists Remember a Different
Romney
Advocates for gay and abortion rights and the environment say the GOP
candidate misled them on his positions." _Los Angeles Times_
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/25/78/
Bank, Justin and Lori Robertson, of factcheck.org. 19 December 2007.
"Romney on Huckabee II
Romney attacks Huckabee again with false and misleading claims."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Luo, Michael. 22 December 2007. "Romney Learns That 'Facts Are
Stubborn Things'" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/us/politics/21cnd-romney.html?hp
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07kristol.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
For me, therefore, the most interesting moment in
Saturday night's Republican debate at St. Anselm
College was when the candidates were asked what
arguments they would make if they found
themselves running against Obama in the general
election.
The best answer came, not surprisingly, from the
best Republican campaigner so far-- Mike
Huckabee. He began by calmly mentioning his and
Obama's contrasting views on issues from guns to
life to same-sex marriage. This served to remind
Republicans that these contrasts have been central
to G.O.P. success over the last quarter-century, and
to suggest that Huckabee could credibly and
comfortably make the socially conservative case in
an electorally advantageous way.
==
I was watching the debate at the home of a savvy,
moderately conservative New Hampshire
Republican. It was at this moment that he turned to
me and said: "You know, I've been a huge skeptic
about Huckabee. I'm still not voting for him
Tuesday. But I've got to say-- I like him. And I
wonder-- could he be our strongest nominee?"
He could be. After the last two elections, featuring
the well-born George Bush and Al Gore and John
Kerry, Americans-- even Republicans!-- are
ready for a likable regular guy. Huckabee seems to
be that. He came up from modest origins. He
served as governor of Arkansas for more than a
decade. He fought a successful battle against being
overweight. These may not be utterly compelling
qualifications for the presidency. I'm certainly not
ready to sign up.
Still, as the conservative writer Michael Medved put
it, "For the work-hard-to-get-ahead strivers who
represent the heart and soul of the G.O.P., there
are obvious, powerful points of identification." And
they speak to younger voters who are not yet
committed to the G.O.P. In Iowa, Huckabee did
something like what Obama did on the Democratic
side, albeit on a smaller scale. He drew new voters
to the caucuses. And he defeated Mitt Romney by
almost two to one, and John McCain by better than
four to one, among voters under 45.
==
But whatever Bloomberg does, the fact is that the
Republican establishment spent 2007
underestimating Mike Huckabee. If Huckabee does
win the nomination, it would be amusing if
Democrats made the same mistake in 2008.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
money"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080109/EDITORIAL/517690344
In recent months Mitt Romney, whose personal
fortune is estimated to be as much as a quarter of a
billion dollars, blanketed the airwaves of Iowa and
New Hampshire with dozens of campaign
advertisements. He clearly has spent tens of
millions of dollars of his own money in Iowa and
New Hampshire, but he steadfastly declines to say
how much. The Romney campaign suffers from a
glaring transparency deficiency, which it should
address at once.
Mr. Romney has every right to bankroll his
presidential campaign with his own money. No
argument here. But why has he refused to tell
voters how much of his personal fortune he has
funneled to his campaign since the end of the third
quarter?
On Jan. 4, the day after Mike Huckabee defeated
Mr. Romney in Iowa, this newspaper asked the
Romney campaign to say how much Mr. Romney
had personally contributed since Sept. 30. During
the first nine months of last year, Mr. Romney had
given his campaign $17.4 million, about 90 percent
more than the $9.2 million in the campaign's cash-
on-hand on Sept. 30.
Romney spokesman Kevin Madden tells us the
campaign "won't release [fourth quarter] numbers
until closer to the filing deadline of [Jan. 31]," which
falls after the voting in Iowa and New Hampshire,
and after Michigan on Jan. 15, Nevada and South
Carolina on Jan. 19 and Florida on Jan. 29.
Delaying the release of this crucial information until
"closer to the filing deadline of Jan. 31" is contrary
to the Romney campaign's practice at the end of
each of the first three quarters of last year. Within
two or three days of the end of each of the first
three quarters, the campaign announced both his
fund-raising totals and his personal contributions.
As the contributions from others declined from
$20.8 million in the first quarter to $13.9 million in
the second, to less than $10 million in the third, Mr.
Romney increased his own contributions to his
campaign each quarter from $2.35 million in the first
quarter to $6.5 million in the second, and $8.5
million in the third.
Through the end of the third quarter, the Romney
campaign had already spent nearly $55 million.
That was before his media blitz began in Iowa. Mr.
Romney should bring his reporting up to date at
once, including full disclosure from the end of
September to yesterday, when New Hampshire
opened the primary season.
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13 November 2007. "Romney spending $85,000-plus a day on TV ads"
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/13/romney.ads/
Romney is spending more than $85,000 a day --
$600,000 last week alone -- on campaign
commercials, according to TNSMI/Campaign Media
Analysis Group, CNN's consultant on political
television advertising spending.
Michael Medved
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/01/08/will_the_gop_contenders_break_their_suicide_pact
Mitt Romney's saturation attack ads (played every
few minutes in Iowa and now in New Hampshire)
have not only poisoned the campaign with
mischaracterizations of the records of his
opponents....
"Romney promises to continue to govern as a conservative if elected
President."
Romney's promises are worth toilet paper. Just ask MA homosexual,
environmental, and abortion activists.
"This is why Romney has the endorsements of many prominent
conservatives and publications"
You left out one key factor in some endorsements of Romney: money.
http://www.thecommonwealthpac.com/
During the 2006 election cycle, the Commonwealth
PACs made over 1,048 donations to numerous
Republican organizations and candidates across
the country. In total, the PACs contributed more
than $1.4 million dollars.
Lewis, Raphael and Janette Neuwahl. 1 February 2005. "PAC backing
Romney pumps cash in key states" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/02/01/pac_backing_romney_pumps_cash_in_key_states/
Friends and supporters of Governor Mitt Romney
have established a political action committee that
has lavished more than $250,000 on Republican
candidates and county GOP organizations across
the nation since July, apparently laying the
groundwork for a potential presidential run for the
Massachusetts politician in 2008.
The Commonwealth PAC has pumped more than
$35,000 into the campaign coffers of Republican
candidates for the US House and Senate in 17
states and has created state subsidiaries that have
distributed tens of thousands more in four key
states: Iowa, South Carolina, Michigan, and
Arizona.
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The PAC has spent $87,000 in Michigan, giving
$1,000 to Republican senators, $500 to Republican
state representatives, and between $500 to $1,000
on county Republican parties statewide, state
campaign finance records show.
The investment could reap handsome rewards,
because state lawmakers are often the most
involved and capable party activists in the field
during presidential elections.
Kirkpatrick, David D. 11 March 2007. "In Romney's Bid, His Wallet
Opens to the Right" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/us/politics/11romney.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1198897685-V4op/WdPFhPK38TYd2kXyA&pagewanted=print
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women to bench
Seen as response to call for diversity" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/04/27/romney_names_4_women_to_bench/
Governor Mitt Romney, under pressure to name
more women to the bench, yesterday nominated
three current or former prosecutors and a top official
from the Menino administration in what aides
boasted is the largest number of female candidates
ever brought forward at once.
Kathe M. Tuttman of Andover and Merita A.
Hopkins of Boston were nominated as associate
justices of the Superior Court;
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''The governor felt he wasn't getting enough female
and minority candidates," said Romney spokesman
Eric Fehrnstrom. ''The governor is interested in
making sure that appointments to the bench, to the
extent possible, reflect the diversity of the
community at large."
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Tuttman and Hopkins are registered Democrats.
Lyons is a Republican. Wright is registered as
unaffiliated with any political party.
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Romney has argued that political views don't matter
when it comes to enforcing the law.
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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Romney's Judge Tuttman
Editorial of _The Washington Times_. 3 January 2008. "Down to the
wire in Iowa"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080103/EDITORIAL/483973945
Mitt Romney on crime: As Massachusetts governor,
Mr. Romney rejected all of the pardon requests he
received, citing a reluctance to overturn the legal
findings made by juries. But his management of the
Massachusetts correctional system and judicial
selection polices are now under fire over the case of
Daniel Tavares, who pleaded guilty in 1991 to fatally
stabbing his mother. Despite multiple attacks on
prison guards, threats to kill Mr. Romney and state
prosecutors and a local sheriff, Tavares was freed
from prison in June-- apparently because Mr.
Romney's administration neglected to strip him of
"good-time credits."
Police immediately rearrested Tavares and charged
him with assaults on the guards. But Kathe
Tuttman, a state judge appointed by Mr. Romney,
rejected prosecutors requests to hold Tavares on
$50,000 bail and released him on his own
recognizance. Tavares moved to rural Pierce
County, Wash., where he is charged with breaking
into his neighbors' home and murdering a young
couple. Mr. Romney has called for Judge Tuttman's
resignation over the Tavares case. Citing comments
from Romney aides at the time of the Tuttman
appointment, critics suggest that his administration
was fixated on the need for gender diversity on the
bench instead of selecting a high-quality judge who
would have understood that Tavares was too
dangerous to release.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Romney's judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b321eb50-1b0c-4abc-8efa-66b40fff3703%40e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com
"is a gun grabber"
2002 Romney on gun control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE
Romney against making automatic weapons available to the public
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8M3Ht28fd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4aWvoR-JI
"opposed the Bush tax cuts"
11 April 2003 Boston Globe. Cited in
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWQxZTZmZjRlMTRiOWU4OTAxZjZlM2I0YWJiNzU2MDM=
"I was very pleased," [Barney] Frank said afterward. "Here
you have a freshman governor refusing to endorse
a tax cut presented by a Republican president at the
height of his wartime popularity."
"ran roughshod over the Constitution with McCain-Feingold Campaign
Finance Reform"
Romney on Campaign Finance Reform: cap spending levels in campaigns,
abolish PACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
"opposes a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage"
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
"lines up with the global warming alarmists"
Romney: "that [coal-fired power] plant kills people"; global warming
"quite alarming"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
"wants to coddle captured terrorists"
vacillating Romney: wiretap Al Qaeda *only* if that's legal
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8f538aee-1ed0-4107-adea-c3bd7a26e041%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
"we're talking about a man who could fairly be called a Rockefeller
Republican, a Country Club Republican, a RINO"
Romney listed as a RINO
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=135f54bc-32f0-47ec-94dc-9aa605272711%40b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com
Romney and McCain members of Republican Main Street Partnership
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c950b53d-1270-42c0-970f-5ef079071753%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
"a toweringly arrogant, out of touch"
SCM employees on Mitt's job-cutting
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/05/30/these-ads-kept-mitt-romne_n_49954.html
"what John McCain cannot fairly be called is a conservative"
2002 Romney: I'm moderate, with progressive views-- see 0:50 on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYdATLV6ZE
fordv...@gmail.com
Hillary Clinton"
What leads you to think Romney could beat Mrs. Clinton?
religious identity: Mrs. Clinton benefits, Romney loses
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=719a46bd-40b8-4822-8297-e163d94318cb%40y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com
What leads you to think Huckabee couldn't beat Mrs. Clinton?
Kristol, William. 7 January 2008. "President Mike Huckabee?"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07kristol.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
The best answer came, not surprisingly, from the
best Republican campaigner so far-- Mike
Huckabee. He began by calmly mentioning his and
Obama's contrasting views on issues from guns to
life to same-sex marriage. This served to remind
Republicans that these contrasts have been central
to G.O.P. success over the last quarter-century, and
to suggest that Huckabee could credibly and
comfortably make the socially conservative case in
an electorally advantageous way.
==
I was watching the debate at the home of a savvy,
moderately conservative New Hampshire
Republican. It was at this moment that he turned to
me and said: "You know, I've been a huge skeptic
about Huckabee. I'm still not voting for him
Tuesday. But I've got to say-- I like him. And I
wonder-- could he be our strongest nominee?"
He could be.
"Actions like that are of a child and NOT presidential"
Do you consider Romney's anti-McCain and anti-Huckabee ads truthful?
Bank, Justin and Lori Robertson, of factcheck.org. 19 December 2007.
"Romney on Huckabee II
Romney attacks Huckabee again with false and misleading claims."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949
28 December 2007. "More Mitt Malarkey
Romney repeats misleading claims about McCain's stand on immigration"
http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_malarkey.html
Romney: McCain's bill gives, and doesn't give, amnesty to illegals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtlC4g96ck
"this county is best run by a successful businessman rather than a
baptist minister"
Do you know what positions Romney has held in the LDS world?
Lizza, Ryan. 29 October 2007. "The Mission: Mitt Romney's strategies
for success"
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/29/071029fa_fact_lizza
In 1974, the Church even had a team of
management consultants help restructure some of
its operations. Romney was chosen for a leadership
position during his mission in France, and was a
leader of local Mormons in Massachusetts. "Gifted
men who are Latter-Day Saints start getting
assignments as administrators when they go on
their mission," Shipps said. "And those assignments
continue-- from being in charge of people on this
mission to eventually being in charge of a ward,
which is like a parish. They have to administer that,
and then they have to administer what is essentially
a diocese. They learn administration in particular
ways." In that sense, Romney may have learned as
much about management from Mormonism as he
did about religion.
"My main concern is immigration. Romney, to me, is the toughest on
that issue."
Suppose Romney gets the nomination. How confident are you that after
the nomination, and before the day of the general election, Romney
will have the same immigration stance that he has now?
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Dreher, Rod. 10 January 2008. "Huckabee for President"
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/01/huckabee-for-president.html
....made me wonder: why haven't I come out for
Huck, given how interested I am in his campaign,
and how, in fact, he's the only Republican candidate
that interests me (Ron Paul was the other, but the
bigot-grams story ended that).
==
The first things that come to mind are Huckabee's
record. I don't know that I trust his about-face on
illegal immigration; today I sat in an editorial board
meeting with two pro-immigration advocates running
a sophisticated campaign to overcome opposition to
illegal immigration. One, a Republican, said, "We all
know how Romney and Giuliani really feel about
immigration, and we know that after the election,
they'll do the right thing." He didn't mention
Huckabee, but I'm not sure if that was just an
oversight. But what's the alternative? I'm
encouraged that he pretty much lifted his current
plan from Mark Krikorian.
Huckabee's
"The Secure America Plan
A 9-Point Strategy for Immigration Enforcement and Border Security"?
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=26
Romney flip-flop on minimum wage
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
vacillating Romney: wiretap Al Qaeda *only* if that's legal
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8f538aee-1ed0-4107-adea-c3bd7a26e041%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney flip-flop on environmental issues
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
Romney's flip-flops on immigration etc.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
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Romney's abortion views evolved during '94 contest
Antle III, W. James. 22 February 2007. "Abortion Contortions"
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11053
Of course, when it comes to verbal gymnastics on
abortion McCain is an amateur while former
Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney deserves a gold
medal. But that didn't stop Romney's conservative
coalitions director, Gary Marx, from attacking
McCain's commitment to life. "Ask the pro-life
movement where his leadership has been in the six
years since 2000 that he's been running for
president," Gary Marx said to the Politico. "What has
he done?"
That's a pretty bold question given that Marx's man
was officially pro-choice for five years after 2000 --
and at least six years before that. In fact, Romney's
abortion shift is so complicated even his special
adviser for life issues can't keep it straight.
Consider pro-life activist James Bopp's argument on
National Review Online: "In his 1994 Senate run,
Romney was endorsed by Massachusetts Citizens
for Life and kept their endorsement, even though he
declared himself to be pro-choice, because he
supported parental-consent laws, opposed
taxpayer-funded abortion and mandatory abortion
coverage under a national health insurance plan,
and was against the Freedom of Choice Act, which
would have codified Roe v. Wade by federal
statute."
All true. But Bopp doesn't seem to realize that
Romney reversed most of those positions over the
course of the 1994 campaign. After accepting the
endorsement, Romney adviser Charles Manning
told the Boston Herald his boss actually "supports a
federal health care option that includes abortion
services, would vote for a law codifying the 1972
[sic] Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion
and backs federal funding for abortions as long as
states can decide they want the money."
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RomneyCare funds MA abortions, and is KennedyCare/ HillaryCare
Romney Didn't Veto Govt Funded Abortion in MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U39MZyCNCJQ
http://www.repealromneycare.org/
Do you think $50 is a decent copay figure for an abortion? PDF:
http://www.mass.gov/Qhic/docs/cc_benefits1220_pt234.pdf
Tanner, Michael D., of the Cato Institute. 11 December 2007.
"Romneycare Gets the Flu"
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8836
The health-care plans advocated by all three
leading Democratic '08 candidates - Hillary Clinton,
John Edwards and Barack Obama - are
substantially the same as Romney's Massachusetts
plan.
Murdock, Deroy. 14 January 2008. "Mitt's Mythical 'Mass. Miracle'"
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12568
Romney's vaunted healthcare plan also disappoints.
==
Romney blames all this on tinkering Democratic
state legislators.
"I don't know what's going to happen down the road
as the Democrats get their hands on it," Romney
told the National Review Institute. "I was a little
concerned at the signing ceremony when Ted
Kennedy showed up."
Romney calls Ted Kennedy co-collaborator on health care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4r9dMP21hM
30 June 2007. "The Making of Mitt Romney
Ambitious goals; shifting stances" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part7_main?mode=PF
Within two days, though, Romney got a bracing
response from an unlikely quarter. Senator Edward
M. Kennedy, the liberal lion who turned back
Romney's freshman venture into politics in 1994,
offered emphatic encouragement. One of the great
champions of universal coverage saw promise in
Romney's gambit.
''We're basically stalemated [in Washington], so the
states are going to have to try to come up with a
response,'' said Kennedy, who would play a behind-
the-scenes role at key points in the legislative
process back home in Boston.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
In a speech he prepared! In an attempt to get the votes of African
Americans!
And he lies in advertising he's spent millions and millions of dollars
showing on TV!
Medved, Michael.
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/01/08/will_the_gop_contenders_break_their_suicide_pact
Mitt Romney's saturation attack ads (played every
few minutes in Iowa and now in New Hampshire)
have not only poisoned the campaign with
mischaracterizations of the records of his
opponents, but also set the agenda for horribly
unenlightening and awkward debates that harmed
all the candidates, very much including Romney
himself.
Romney: McCain's bill gives, and doesn't give, amnesty to illegals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtlC4g96ck
28 December 2007
More Mitt Malarkey
Romney repeats misleading claims about McCain's stand on immigration
and his own record on taxes.
http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_malarkey.html
Fee-Fee Romney's Taxes & Fees
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=23a78e88-4d1a-47bd-8a7a-60aa8109e297%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Stubborn Facts on Romney and Taxes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm--MMW6iBI
Romney lying in 2002, or lying now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43TVmSoaQ7c
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
Tammy Bruce: Romney's fantasies become reality to him: 2:00+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlHy-2Er1I
Romney is a serial liar.
If Romney gets the nomination, do you think leftists in the press will
allow Romney to get away with his constant stream of lies,
fabrications, exaggerations, falsehoods?
Rush, Sean, and Mark Levin give Liar Romney a pass on his constant
lying. The DC, NY, and LA press corps won't come post-Republican-
convention.
Lizza, Ryan. 29 October 2007. "The Mission: Mitt Romney's strategies
for success"
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/29/071029fa_fact_lizza
Suddenly, a heavyset man wearing a bright-orange
cap entered the room. "Mr. Romney," he called out.
"Eric Orff-- I'm a hunter."
It was a potentially awkward moment. Earlier this
year, Romney claimed that he'd "been a hunter
pretty much all my life." A few days later, he said in
a statement, "I've hunted small game numerous
times." Four days after that, Romney told W.
Gardner Selby, of the Austin American-Statesman,
"Any description of my being a hunter is an
overstatement of capability."
Still, he couldn't resist. "You're a hunter?" he said to
Orff. "Well, same here. Good to see ya."
Romney, Hunter Extraordinaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ug_pt_mQwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvny6CKcNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE
Bank, Justin and Lori Robertson, of factcheck.org. 19 December 2007.
"Romney on Huckabee II
Romney attacks Huckabee again with false and misleading claims."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949
"An oppressor of freedom of speech!"
Romney on Campaign Finance Reform: cap spending levels in campaigns,
abolish PACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual
agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
"A believer in anthropological global warming!"
Romney: "that [coal-fired power] plant kills people"; global warming
"quite alarming"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
Lizza, Ryan. 29 October 2007. "The Mission: Mitt Romney's strategies
for success"
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/29/071029fa_fact_lizza
Orff had a question about the environment: "It's
eighty degrees today. What are we going to do
about global warming?" Romney's response was
quick and concise. "We're going to get ourselves off
of foreign oil," he said. "And to do that it's going to
take nuclear power, clean coal, more efficient
vehicles, and then we're going to dramatically
reduce our greenhouse gases."
"Votes against tax cuts!"
He pointedly refused to support the Bush tax cuts!
11 April 2003 Boston Globe
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWQxZTZmZjRlMTRiOWU4OTAxZjZlM2I0YWJiNzU2MDM=
"I was very pleased," [Barney] Frank said afterward. "Here
you have a freshman governor refusing to endorse
a tax cut presented by a Republican president at the
height of his wartime popularity."
"LEADS the charge against conservative judges!"
Appoints homosexuals and pro-baby-killing proponents to the bench!
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
"Romney has not been in Washington for the last 25 years (with a
pitiful record)"
Romney has been in Massachusetts for the last 20+ years with a pitiful
record of espousing changed views regularly depending on office being
sought!
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Romney's flip-flop on immigration
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
"(co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy)"
Romney calls Ted Kennedy co-collaborator on health care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4r9dMP21hM
Romney references Kennedy, and strives to be all things to all people
http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/politics/2007/08/22/romney/index.html
"voted to give your social security money to illegal immigrants"
28 December 2007
More Mitt Malarkey
Romney repeats misleading claims about McCain's stand on immigration
http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_malarkey.html
"voted against the Bush tax cuts"
11 April 2003 Boston Globe
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWQxZTZmZjRlMTRiOWU4OTAxZjZlM2I0YWJiNzU2MDM=
"I was very pleased," [Barney] Frank said afterward. "Here
you have a freshman governor refusing to endorse
a tax cut presented by a Republican president at the
height of his wartime popularity."
"routinely engages in Democratic class warfare"
Romney: flat tax "a TAX CUT for FAT CATS!"
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/mitt_romney_is.html
Club for Growth. 21 August 2007. "Mitt Romney's Record on Economic
Issues"
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/08/mitt_romneys_record_on_economi.php
His strident opposition to the flat tax is most curious
and difficult to explain since Romney wasn't a
political candidate at the time. In 1996, he ran a
series of newspaper ads in Boston, New
Hampshire, and Iowa denouncing the 17% flat tax
proposed by then presidential candidate Steve
Forbes as a "tax cut for fat cats".
"wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill"
Romney's flip-flop on Campaign Finance Reform
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
"was called the 'worst 2nd amendment candidate' by the president of
the NRA"
Romney listed as a RINO
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=135f54bc-32f0-47ec-94dc-9aa605272711%40b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com
"wrote a bill... imposing a massive tax on energy"
Helman, Scott. 8 November 2005. "Romney favors pact by states on
emissions" The Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/11/08/romney_favors_pact_by_states_on_emissions/
In opening remarks to a clean-energy conference in
Boston, Romney said the first-of-its-kind agreement,
under which Massachusetts and eight other states
could be required to cut power plant emissions by
2020, will not hurt the economy, as some have
charged. He argued that it would spur businesses to
develop clean- and renewable-energy technology to
market worldwide.
''This is a great thing for the Commonwealth,"
Romney said, his strongest endorsement of the pact
to date. "We can effectively create incentives to
help stimulate a sector of the economy and at the
same time not kill jobs."
....Romney's overall support for the initiative could
add another wrinkle to his checkered relationship
with the corporate community.
==
Romney said yesterday that he had some concerns
about the agreement, known as the Regional
Greenhouse Gas Initiative, but he endorsed this and
other clean-energy initiatives by saying they would
stimulate the development of technology that
Massachusetts companies could sell to other states
and countries, as the emphasis on climate change
grows.
''I'm convinced it is good business," Romney said.
He cited analyses showing that the agreement
would boost energy prices by just 1 or 2 percent.
==
Romney won office in 2002 by casting himself as a
successful businessman who would draw on his
background to turn around the Massachusetts
economy and infuse efficiency into state
government. But while Romney has launched
probusiness policies, he has also drawn criticism
from the business community for his closing of
corporate tax loopholes and his support for a
measure allowing cities and towns to shift more of
the property tax burden onto the commercial sector.
"supports radical global warming legislation"
Romney: global warming "quite alarming"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
videos of Romney on global warming:
I want a global cap and trade re: CO2 emissions;
let's push for global reductions in CO2 emissions
http://www.heatison.org/pages/Governor_Mitt_Romney
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
1 January 2008. Lawyers, Leaders and Activists Issue Warning to
Voters:
"Conservative Elites" Covering Up Romney's Betrayals on Marriage,
Life, Children and Constitution.
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
A growing list of conservative leaders are circulating a strong public
warning about "the conservative establishment's aggressive cover-up of
the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gay adoption policies" of Mitt
Romney while governor of Massachusetts. The letter accuses Romney's
stable of prominent "conservative" leaders, lawyers and pundits of
gross malpractice, ruthless ambition and dishonesty toward voters.
It calls on principled conservatives to firmly condemn the rent-a-
conservative feeding frenzy on Mitt Romney's money and the cover-up of
his actions as governor-- most of which he did while pretending he was
forced to either by judges or non-existent laws. Their letter details
numerous stunning aspects of Romney's record that are known to few
Americans. These include:
==
subsidizing abortions at $50 each with Planned Parenthood established
as the fox guarding the henhouse
==
"The entire record of Mitt Romney's political career is that of a man
whose Mormon background has no more influenced his zigzagging
statements, positions and policies than Ted Kennedy's or Hillary
Clinton's religion influences theirs," said
==
"Romney's traveling circus is just political special effects, issue
after issue. He looks good, but he's a walking mannequin. There's
absolutely no core in this man,"
==
"Behind the empty gestures and deceptive rhetoric, Romney was not pro-
life or a defender of marriage by any stretch of the imagination. He
was a disaster," said John O'Gorman, a member of the board of
directors of Massachusetts Citizens For Life (MCFL), the state-wide
group Romney has been deceptively claiming awarded him a pro-life
leadership award. "The award Romney arranged for himself with the
local Pioneer Valley Chapter was the Mullins Award for Political
Leadership, not a pro-life award and not approved by MCFL's state
board of directors. We're blowing the whistle to warn voters who are
being lied to by the crowd that makes big money off the pro-life
cause. Real moral conservatives must alert the voters to the ongoing
deception by cash-driven, pseudo-conservative elites who've allied
themselves with a lying politician," added O'Gorman.
"We who have been in the trenches since 1973 know Mitt Romney has not
switched to a pro-life stance, as he claims. He has merely switched
to a 'states' rights' pro-abortion position - attaching a 'pro-life'
label to it,"
==
To get the award, Romney paid $15,000 and went around MCFL's state
headquarters to deal with a willing local politician who arranged the
award through a local chapter.
"MCFL was in financial difficulty when Romney's check came in and has
been reluctant to contradict him publicly,"
==
expose this pro-life award as not much more than a dime-store rip-
off."
==
Romney's been buying up big-name conservatives like cattle at an
auction,"
==
"Lots of the lawyers and law professors covering up for Romney or who
are silent have a vested interest or have close colleagues who do,"
==
Romney and his lawyers are lying about judges and laws forcing his
actions on homosexual marriage, gay adoption and $50 abortions," Paine
said.
"For some bizarre reason the mere fact that Romney's never been
divorced and goes to a temple regularly is supposed to negate the fact
that he's extremely liberal,"
==
liberal who can seduce conservatives and then leave them heartbroken
as he did in Massachusetts. He used his Republican and Mormon
identity to push through radical policies on gay marriage, abortion
and pro-homosexual school programs that Ted Kennedy always dreamed
about."
==
"The Mitt Romney that governed Massachusetts was a man totally without
the core principles that Mormons espouse," said Gregg Jackson, a talk
radio host in Boston and author of Conservative Comebacks to Liberal
Lies. This man is throwing tens of millions of his own dollars into
projecting a conservative, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-
life image since he decided to run for president. He wasn't even a
real economic conservative, if you scratch beneath his smooth talking
points. He's the Wizard of Oz, a fake. I'm a professional and Romney
fooled me for a good while."
"He kept on saying he was being forced to do these things, by the law,
by the judges," Haskins said. "Who bothers to do the research to find
out if the law or the state constitution says what he claims? The
media sure didn't.
==
We'd find out months later there was money or career opportunities
involved... like Jay Sekulow's son-- a student-- getting
==
"Anyone who takes seriously the high-flying conservatives vouching for
him has no clue how terribly money and power have corrupted once
respected conservatives," said Diane Grimly, president of the American
Family Association of Pennsylvania.
==
The overwhelming majority have no loyalties to any other candidate,
none have cited Romney's Mormonism as a primary concern, and all have
investigated Romney's record far more than many of those vouching for
him. Almost all of those in Massachusetts voted for him four years
ago.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
others among the conservative punditry for"
Romney can thank talk radio for:
* utterly failing to dissect Romney's radical leftist MA policies
* neglecting to mention the similarities between past Romney views and
McCain views, even while criticizing McCain views
* avoiding the subject of multimillionaire Romney's many checkbook
endorsements, wherein Romney bought the support of high-level
conservatives
* failing to discuss Romney's pathological serial lying habit, and his
creepy telling different audiences exactly what those audiences want
to hear-- the man has no core convictions/ principles.
/////////////////////////
Murdock, Deroy. 4 February 2008. "Mitt's Vietnam Flip-Flop: His Most
Disturbing Yet"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DeroyMurdock/2008/02/04/mitts_vietnam_flip-flop_his_most_disturbing_yet?page=full&comments=true&voted=5
Romney claims NRA endorsement-- again
http://race42008.com/2008/02/03/romney-flips-on-guns/
Murdock, Deroy. 4 February 2008. "Rhetoric vs. Record
Romney's life problem."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGYyZWE4OGI5YzNlZTc1M2M2OTRiYmMzMjEzMDlkNzA=
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
3 February 2008. Alan Keyes: Romney responsible for same-sex marriage
fiasco
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60022
Murdock, Deroy. 14 January 2008. "Mitt's Mythical 'Mass. Miracle'"
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12568
WSJ editorial. 1 February 2008. "Romney's Convictions"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120182471883733637.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
similarities between Romney & McCain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=04d513a3-77c4-415f-a02b-3294ad637f0f%40k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/54cdb6153accd49a
RomneyCare funds MA abortions, and is KennedyCare/ HillaryCare:
bottom section of
Huckabee vs. Romney
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/b8874f14563f4df0
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/798c5314480d0328
ad: Mitt Romney: "Look at my Record"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFGA_HN3Yc&feature=PlayList&p=FD9F88028457D175&index=0
great article "Mitt missing convictions"
control - f/ "find" for: bucki
http://www.prolifefederation.org/custom3.asp
Jacoby, Eff. 28 March 2002. "Mitt is Mainstream" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.prolifefederation.org/custom3.asp
Ah, but that gets to Romney's real problem, which
isn't what he stands for so much as a suspicion that
he wants to stand for whatever is safe.
I like Romney. I admire his values. He is honorable,
decent, and smart. But he is not a natural politician,
and I think he finds it distasteful to take strong
political positions, especially when they may affront
some voters. During his race against Ted Kennedy
in 1994, I wrote that "Romney looked good, spoke
well, remained poised - and came down firmly on
both sides of almost every issue." For a Republican
running in a heavily Democratic state, that is a
recipe for defeat. And Romney was indeed defeated
- even as Bill Weld, who was running for reelection
in the same year on a flinty platform of tax cuts,
crime control, and welfare reform, roared to a
record-busting victory.
The Real Romney?-- 5:04 long, from debate with Ted Kennedy shortly
before the 1994 tsunami that swept Republicans into control of
Congress (Romney failed to beat Kennedy that year)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI
Jackson, Gregg. 4 February 2008. "Why I'm Voting for Mike Huckabee"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GreggJackson/2008/02/04/why_im_voting_for_mike_huckabee?page=full&comments=true
Mitt Romney is not only not a conservative on any
issue, he's not even on the left-right spectrum. He
has no beliefs. No principles. No backbone. No
soul. He is a soulless creature who will do and say
anything to get elected.
////////////////////////////
checkbook endorsements
Mark Levin today reeled off some endorsements of Romney. My reaction:
It would be great for the country for Romney to lose and lose and
lose, and go away and stop corrupting high-profile conservatives by
buying them with his millions.
Lawyers, Leaders and Activists Issue Warning to Voters:
"Conservative Elites" Covering Up Romney's Betrayals on Marriage,
Life, Children and Constitution.
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
some extracts from above item:
rent-a-conservative feeding frenzy on Romney $$$
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/662716ea96f5a746
Kirkpatrick, David D. 11 March 2007. "In Romney's Bid, His Wallet
Opens to the Right" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/us/politics/11romney.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1198897685-V4op/WdPFhPK38TYd2kXyA&pagewanted=print
Romney Buys Activists in Iowa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htKGhe_BGV4
This Romney PAC and its affiliates doled out $1.3, $1.4 million:
Lewis, Raphael and Janette Neuwahl. 1 February 2005. "PAC backing
Romney pumps cash in key states" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/02/01/pac_backing_romney_pumps_cash_in_key_states/
Compare:
Romney: abolish PACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
Morain, Dan. 1 January 2008. "Huckabee foes open their wallets for
attack ads" _LA Times_
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-money1jan01,1,5350192.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Huckabee has been the target of a $550,000
campaign waged by the conservative anti-tax Club
for Growth.
==
Romney isn't paying for the independent spots, but
they often appear during the same commercial
breaks as Romney-funded ads. A handful of
wealthy donors, including several backers of the
former Massachusetts governor, have paid for the
spots with checks of as much as $100,000 to the
Club for Growth, an independent group that
produced and placed the spots.
Though federal election laws restrict the amount
donors can give directly to candidates, looser
restrictions govern what contributors can give to
independent efforts to influence the race.
Houston home-builder Bob J. Perry, for example,
has donated $2,300 to Romney, the most he can
give to the candidate in the primary. Two weeks
ago, Perry gave $200,000 to the Club for Growth,
allowing the group to jack up its television buy to
pummel Huckabee on the airwaves.
==
Boston investor John Childs, who donated $2,100 to
Romney in 2007, recently gave $100,000 to the
Club for Growth.
==
Are they donating to the Club for Growth as a
backdoor way of helping Romney?
"I suppose that is a possibility," said Club for Growth
spokeswoman Nachama Soloveichik. "It could also
be that they are afraid of Huckabee's record."
Romney's aides have said the candidate has no
connection to the spots.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
attention"
Very funny. I can inform a very few people, but that's it.
Back when Terri Schindler Schiavo was being starved to death, the same
thing occurred: I informed a very few people about the facts of the
situation, yet nothing came of my presenting those facts. TSS still
ended up being starved to death.
TSS story with villains, victims, and heroes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115741978.820440.50060%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/05/attorney_says_giuliani_romney.php
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07052511.html
"the MSM has given both Huckabee and McCain a free-ride"
Huckabee has been asked tough questions by Hannity, on TV.
Chris Wallace asked Huckabee tough questions, and he did fine.
Huckabee reply to taxes & spending criticism--
4:23 on the video, to the video's end.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zgc-R9iAWhg&feature=related
Huckabee reply to immigration criticism: 3:53 - 5:35
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ax-mZfWSQn8&feature=related
"the MSM has... really hammered Romney"
Over what? Flipping on LDS theology?
Romney's flip on LDS theology
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Flipping on taxes and social issues?
Romney hit hard on MSNBC -Taxes, Flip-flops, & Social Issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8bSyAihn18
"I haven't seen even one blog out here that is discussing Romney that
doesn't have rabid cut and pasters like yourself.
Your points are being made."
There is at least one energetic, highly influential lawyer of a
cheerleader for Romney here. A cheerleader for whom Romney has done
no wrong, and would make a superb nominees (despite Romney's serial
lying ways and lack of *any* core convictions).
If Romney becomes the nominee, you can be sure the MSM and 527s will
discuss ad nauseum Romney's flip-flopping and habit of regularly
lying.
///////////////////////////////////////
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/798c5314480d0328
Romney lying in 2002, or lying now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43TVmSoaQ7c
3 February 2008. serial liar Romney claims NRA endorsement-- again
http://race42008.com/2008/02/03/romney-flips-on-guns/
Murdock, Deroy. 4 February 2008. "Mitt's Vietnam Flip-Flop: His Most
Disturbing Yet"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DeroyMurdock/2008/02/04/mitts_vietnam_flip-flop_his_most_disturbing_yet?page=full&comments=true&voted=5
Luo, Michael. 22 December 2007. "Romney Learns That 'Facts Are
Stubborn Things'" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/us/politics/21cnd-romney.html?hp
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your
abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Murdock, Deroy. 4 February 2008.
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
commercial breaks. Typically these are spoofs, e.g., ads for Spatula
City where one can buy say 9 spatulas and get the 10th one free. A
moment ago I heard the typical EIB spoof ad about Weemsco (sp) tuna
made from dolphins.
It's my understanding that when a radio station hasn't sold a slot to
an ad, it'll play the EIB spoof ad.
Right before tuna spoof ad minutes ago, there was an EIB ad with a
voice imitating McCain, and having McCain describe to illegal
immigrants all the benefits of his immigration legislation. This was
a clearly anti-McCain piece.
Also on this same radio station, I twice heard yesterday a Romney ad
attacking McCain on immigration and past opposition the Bush tax cuts.
//////////////////////////////////////
Democrats For Romney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiCqxKLIVDY
Romney: McCain's bill gives, and doesn't give, amnesty to illegals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtlC4g96ck
28 December 2007
More Mitt Malarkey
Romney repeats misleading claims about McCain's stand on immigration
http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_malarkey.html
Romney's flip on immigration
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
11 April 2003 Boston Globe. Cited in
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWQxZTZmZjRlMTRiOWU4OTAxZjZlM2I0YWJiNzU2MDM=
Governor Mitt Romney refused yesterday to
endorse tax cuts at the heart of President Bush's
economic program, but he told members of the
state's congressional delegation during a private
meeting he also would not oppose the cuts because
he has to maintain "a solid relationship" with the
White House.
==
"I was very pleased," [Barney] Frank said afterward. "Here
you have a freshman governor refusing to endorse
a tax cut presented by a Republican president at the
height of his wartime popularity."
According to the observer, who spoke on condition
of anonymity, Romney told the delegation that he
"won't be a cheerleader" for proposals he doesn't
agree with, "but I have to keep a solid relationship
with the White House."
Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/f66e6dad0487ed0f
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
> Romney believes what he says today just as much as
> he believed what he said in the 1990s.
ad: Mitt Romney: "Look at my Record"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFGA_HN3Yc&feature=PlayList&p=FD9F88028457D175&index=0
> There is no sin
> in growing and learning and changing ones mind. A
> decade is a long time, especially politically, and one
> can do a lot of growing and learning in ten years.
> If I could change my mind, if Reagan could change his
> mind, then I can allow for the fact that Mitt Romney can
> change his mind as well.
>
> Still others find that Mitt Romney's position changes
> (even on items in his own life story) are too much to
> bear, leaving them with no choice but to "question his
> sincerity."
Tammy Bruce: Romney's fantasies become reality to him: 2:00+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlHy-2Er1I
Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
> he wants to reward captured terrorist by giving them
> American legal privilege
vacillating Romney: wiretap Al Qaeda *only* if that's legal
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8f538aee-1ed0-4107-adea-c3bd7a26e041%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
> his stance against tax cuts
Limbaugh now attacking McCain in ad
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/18c2eabf5ea7539c
> He betrayed a state that elected him
Mooney, Brian C., Stephanie Ebbert, and Scott Helman. 30 June 2007.
"The Making of Mitt Romney
Ambitious goals; shifting stances" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part7_main?mode=PF
A spokesman said Romney each year met an
average of about 50 chief executives who were
considering expanding or locating in the state. A
persistent complaint in the business sector,
however, is that Romney never fulfilled his promise
to be a Massachusetts cheerleader around the
country and that he spent too much time
lampooning the Bay State's liberal political culture
while selling himself to national Republican activists.
''Instead of serving as the Commonwealth's number
one salesperson to encourage firms to locate in the
state, he tended to poke fun at the state,'' said Brian
R. Gilmore, executive vice president of Associated
Industries of Massachusetts, which represents
7,600 businesses.
> He betrayed a party that supported him
Mishra, Raja. 14 June 2002. "Romney endorses stem cell research, is
silent on cloning" Boston Globe
http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Jun2002/USRomneyEndorsesStemCellResearch.html
Romney spoke at a Brandeis University-hosted
forum on biomedical research. He endorsed
embryonic stem cell research, saying the
controversial science might one day help treat his
wife's multiple sclerosis in addition to numerous
other degenerative diseases.
==
Romney spoke extensively about his position on
stem cell research, which also involves embryo
destruction.
''I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and
fight for stem cell research,'' he said, adding, ''I'd be
happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though
I don't know if I could budge him an inch.''
Last summer, Bush set tight limits on taxpayer-
funded embryonic stem cell research, and the field
has since grown sluggishly.
> And he will betray a country that elects him
Lawyers, Leaders and Activists Issue Warning to Voters:
"Conservative Elites" Covering Up Romney's Betrayals on Marriage,
Life, Children and Constitution.
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
> Mitt Divided Against Himself
> On the one hand, Hugh claims that Mitt 2008 is a
> continuation of Reagan 1980--in other words, the
> dominant political movement in America over the past
> three decades. On the other, Mitt is claiming to be the
> "outsider" in the race.
> The whole campaign is based upon a contradiction--
> even a lie. You have to be deeply gullible to accept
> both those claims. Who knows? It may yet work with
> the Republican base, whose capacity for self-deception
> seems limitless. But the idea the broader public is
> going to buy it is crazy. You cannot fool all the people
> all the time.
> Like that famous story about Adlai Stevenson, when a
> lady went to him at a mixer in '52 or '56, I don't know
> which, and said: "Governor, all thinking Americans are
> pulling for you." And Stevenson said: "Ma'am, that's not
> enough-- we need a majority."
> This is Mitt's dilemma. The very flimflam which can
> secure him the Reep nomination will crush him with the
> American electorate. With McCain, at least, you have
> arms length from the evident failures of Republican
> conservatism. While there is still the likelihood you'll
> lose in November-- this may be a Dem year-- McCain
> has some influence with those non-engaged, political
> independents who helped GW eke out his 50%+1, but
> who have long since left the station.
>
> By the way, that's why blathering commentators back
> Romney, but elected officials-- the guys who actually
> risk putting their names before the people-- back
> McCain. It is easy to shriek into the wind. There are no
> consequences. It is not so easy to govern. And while
> politicians have a justly bad reputation-- always have
> and always will-- it is deeply telling that Romney's
> support is from folks who yammer and entertain for a
> living, while McCain's support is from those who have
> had to earn actual votes from actual people.
>
> the economic conservatives have had it with the Bush
> brand of conservative
>
> Vote for Romney! He's got more principles and
> integrity
Wallsten, Peter. 25 March 2007. "Activists Remember a Different
Romney
Advocates for gay and abortion rights and the environment say the GOP
candidate misled them on his positions." _Los Angeles Times_
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/25/78/
Some activists say they were misled. "I thought we
had sat down with him in good faith," said Browne.
"It seemed as though he was making a
commitment."
Romney's pullout from the regional deal was
welcomed by business leaders, and it came at a
politically sensitive time. The same day of his
decision, Romney announced that he was not
running for reelection as governor, a suggestion that
he would soon focus on the White House.
> will never cheat on his oath of office.
Davis, Teddy. 24 July 2007. "Will Romney Flip on Minimum Wage?
Position as Governor at Odds With Republican's '08 Ambitions"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3407772&page=1
Automatic increases to the state minimum wage
were a key part of Mitt Romney's campaign platform
for governor -- No. 39 on the list of promises he
offered Massachusetts voters in 2002.
Now that Romney is seeking the 2008 Republican
nomination for president....
"I think that indexing the minimum wage is a
problem for Gov. Romney," said Pat Toomey, the
president of the conservative Club for Growth.
"Clearly he has taken a number of positions" in his
presidential campaign "that are more conservative
than he has in the past," Toomey said, referring to
Romney's initial opposition to the Bush tax cuts.
"The question free-market conservatives are asking
is: How sincere is this conversion? How strongly
does he believe in these things now?"
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Romney refused to endorse Bush tax cuts
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWQxZTZmZjRlMTRiOWU4OTAxZjZlM2I0YWJiNzU2MDM=
> he has an impeccable reputation for honesty
Benner, Tom. 27 July 2005. "Romney wants Roe v. Wade overturned;
Now a presidential hopeful, says he's 'in a different place'" _The
Patriot Ledger_
http://www.prolifefederation.org/custom3.asp
BOSTON - Polly Logan couldn't believe it when she
learned the governor she campaigned for had come
out against Roe v. Wade. "I knew his mother,
Lenore - she was a very modern woman and she
believed in a woman's right to choose," said Logan,
a Cohasset resident and a fixture in the
Massachusetts Republican Party for decades. "I
worked for him and I got more women to vote for
him. It never occurred to me that he wasn't pro-
choice."
Another Cohasset Republican, Eleanor Bleakie,
feels betrayed by Gov. Mitt Romney.
"I think he's a turncoat," Bleakie said. "When he was
campaigning to be elected, he implied that he was
in favor of Roe v. Wade and would do nothing to
upset it. Now he's campaigning to get the
Republican nomination so he's veering far to the
right."
Angus McQuilken, Planned Parenthood's public
affairs director, says Romney fooled many voters
who sent him to office when he pledged in his 2002
campaign to support abortion rights.
"The governor simply lied in 2002 when he said in a
Planned Parenthood questionnaire he would
support Roe v. Wade and emergency
contraception," he said. "He can't be trusted."
Romney lying in 2002, or lying now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43TVmSoaQ7c
> for the Marriage amendment
1 January 2002. "19 questions for Mitt Romney" _Bay Windows_
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=the_romney_files
BW: Do you support the Protection of Marriage
Amendment?
MR: No, because it would outlaw domestic partner
benefits for same-sex couples.
BW: Do you believe the Protection of Marriage
Amendment initiative should be put before voters?
MR: The people have a constitutional right to put
questions before the voters. But, if it had been on
the ballot, I would have voted no.
> According to the trusted FRC - Family research
> council, Romney is 100% in agreement with
> conservative family values.
Ref? How much has FRC gotten from multimillionaire Romney?
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checkbook endorsements,
bottom section of
Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/f66e6dad0487ed0f
> You always read the stories about ancient Israel, and
> you wonder how did they lose it. How could they be so
> stupid, but I think they also thought they weren't so bad
> in their day. The majority eventually came to a
> consensus that their behaviors and beliefs were good
> despite prophets telling them otherwise. I know we're
> not Israel, but the parallels are spooky.
According to the Jewish Old Testament, the completely-holy,
distributor-of-justice God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is concerned
about both:
1) the actions of individuals,
and
2) the society as a whole.
If by their actions enough individuals in a society stick it in the
eye
of the God of Abraham, the God of Abraham gets angry, and the entire
society suffers.
Freedman, David Noel. 2000. _The Nine Commandments: Uncovering the
Hidden Pattern of Crime and Punishment in the Hebrew Bible_ (NY:
Doubleday), 217pp. About the book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385499868/qid=1130519881/sr=1-4
In post-Darwin, pre-Holocaust Germany, Ernst Rohm flaunted his
aggressive pursuit of homosexual activity, which included partaking of
homosexual sex with boys.
Like Hitler, a fellow pursuer of homosexual activity, Rohm had a
leadership position in Nazi Germany.
Supposing the God of Abraham exists, and supposing the God of Abraham
got angry about Rohm's sex with the boys Rohm victimized, and got
angry
over many other actions in post-Darwin pre-Holocaust Germany, it
should
come as no surprise that the entire German society suffered.
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian, atheistic a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/10ac5d963dfa0eba?hl=en&
> Remember
> when gambling was a vice? Now the state not only
> supports it, it's advertised as good because some of
> the money is used to support schools or clean up the
> environment. Actually, I can't even remember why it's
> wrong, but my moral memory still vaguely knows that it
> is.
McLaughlin, Abraham. 22 April 2003. "Despite gambling's riches,
states play cautiously" _The Christian Science Monitor_
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0422/p01s04-ussc.html
Last week, Massachusetts's House of
Representatives rejected plans to allow slot
machines at racetracks. This follows an unusual
proposal by Gov. Mitt Romney to try to get $75
million a year in "blocking payments" from nearby
Connecticut casinos. For that price, Romney
promises no casinos would be built in
Massachusetts. Some see the offer as extortion.
Others see it as Romney's attempt to tap into
gambling's benefits without paying its social costs.
"The Toll", a publication of the National Coalition Against Legalized
Gambling.
Page 3, far-right column of
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:HWe_GKnhUKAJ:www.ncalg.org/Library/Bulletins/BOB%2520V1N1%2520Feb%25202003.pdf+romney+gambling+budget+300&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
which is the text version of the PDF
www.ncalg.org/Library/Bulletins/BOB%20V1N1%20Feb%202003.pdf
New Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has floated
perhaps the most inventive gambling related
solution to date. He proposes to accept $20 million
each from four gambling establishments in
Connecticut and Rhode Island in exchange for
banning gambling in his own state. He claims the
$80 million charge would be well below what tribal
and racino facilities are pulling out of
Massachusetts. So far, the gamblers in the two
"competing" states haven't warmed to his
suggestions.
> Most of us have sold out to this world and we know
> it. Time to pray. Politics won't solve what's really wrong
> with this country.
>
> If I were Obama, I would show the "tale of two Mitts"
> and tell Mitt - Mitt, please debate yourself and I will
> watch.
'contrast' ad: Romney abortion Flip-Flops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_nnLegPetA
Romney Fairytale video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7y1HMZNJy0
contrast ad: Blue or Red?
It's Not Real Mitt Romney - Blue or Red? Flip Flop Facts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_Rh235HLo
Romney windsurfing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbQviUqndg
> 'Romney has an appeal built on the future, not the
> past.'
> So, lets see - Romney has lot of flip-flops in the past,
> so Hugh says lets ignore the past and focus on the
> future. Ok, convenient. But with McCain, lets only look
> at the past and his supposed betrayal of the base and
> not what he can do in the future.
robw
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Romney: flat tax "a TAX CUT for FAT CATS!"
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/mitt_romney_is.html
21 January 1996. _Boston Globe_. Cited in
_Human Events_. 17 June 2005. "Where Does Mitt Romney Stand?"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=7794
"Mitt Romney today is running a series of full-page
newspaper ads attacking the 17% flat tax proposed
by candidate Steve Forbes. ... 'The problem with
the Forbes flat tax is that it isn't flat at all-- it's a zero
tax on the wealthy and a 17% tax on working
Americans,' Romney said yesterday. 'I'm hoping
that by running these ads voters will realize the
Forbes flat tax is a gimmick, a phony, and not what
it pretends to be.'"
Club for Growth. 21 August 2007. "Mitt Romney's Record on Economic
Issues"
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/08/mitt_romneys_record_on_economi.php
His strident opposition to the flat tax is most curious
and difficult to explain since Romney wasn't a
political candidate at the time. In 1996, he ran a
series of newspaper ads in Boston, New
Hampshire, and Iowa denouncing the 17% flat tax
proposed by then presidential candidate Steve
Forbes as a "tax cut for fat cats".[16] Even today,
Romney continues to oppose the flat tax with harsh
language, calling the tax "unfair."[17]
==
[17] Des Moines Register, 04/05/07 {see below}
"Fee-Fee" Can't Get Free Himself From His Record on Taxes
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/09/fee-fee_cant_ge.php
In 1996, Romney personally paid $50,000 to fund a
series of attack ads aimed at Republican
Presidential contender Steve Forbes' flat tax,
arguing that a flat tax benefited the rich because the
plan would not tax income from dividends, interest,
and investment profits. The ad called the tax break
'a tax cut for fat cats.'
////////////////////////////////////////
December 2006 Romney:
flat tax good but too hard to get;
many think failing to tax dividends, interest, capital gains, and
inherited wealth is unfair-- [Romney]"a lot of people who feel that's
just not fair"
Bluey, Robert B. 28 December 2006. "Q&A: Mitt Romney Discusses Iraq
War, Reagan's Influence and Gay Marriage"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18683
[question] I just wanted to get your position on what
tax reform you would prefer most, because as I
understand it, back in 1996, you ran a newspaper
that was critical of Steve Forbes' flat tax, calling it "a
gimmick" and "a phony." Do you still hold those
views today? Or do you like the flat tax or the Fair
Tax or is there a system that you prefer?
[Romney's answer] I think the flat tax and the Fair
Tax both have very favorable elements to them and
I respect the features of simplicity and fairness.
There are, however, I think some challenges, I
think, that have to be recognized in terms of them
being politically acceptable to the American
people-- and, if you will, effectively able to be
implemented in a political setting.
So, for instance, a tax that did not in any way tax
dividends or interest or capital gains I think would
be very difficult to see successfully passed in a
political environment such as Washington, D.C.,
because it would suggest that some people who
had inherited all their wealth would never pay any
taxes at all. There would be a lot of people who feel
that's just not fair.
I think you have to take into account the political
realities of a dual-party setting. On the other hand,
there are some features I love. I like the simplicity
and I'd like to move toward greater simplicity. I'd like
also to see corporations not have the double
taxation, which we currently apply, which makes it
difficult for our corporations to sell products on a
global marketplace because of the double taxation
associated with our system.
Simplification of our system and reducing burdens
on the abilities our employers to compete are, I
think, features that people are going to look for.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
April 2007 Romney: simpler, fairer, flatter tax system is a
pipedream; flat tax is unfair
Beaumont, Thomas. 5 April 2007. "Romney Calls Flat Tax Unfair" _Des
Moines Register_
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3423.html
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said
Wednesday that he would propose eliminating taxes
on savings for middle-class Americans if he is
elected president, but he would not overhaul the
U.S. tax code.
"I'm probably not going to be recommending
throwing out the code and starting over," the
Republican said during a meeting with Des Moines
Register editors and reporters. "We all can dream
about a much simpler, fairer, flatter system.
"I look to say, 'Can we make the tax rates lower for
all Americans?' Can we make the tax on savings,
particularly on middle-income Americans,
disappear?"
==
Rival GOP presidential candidate Sam Brownback,
a Kansas senator, has called for overhauling the tax
code.
Romney also said he opposes implementing a flat
income tax, calling the concept unfair. Former New
York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is also running for
the 2008 GOP nomination, said last week that he
was open to the idea of a flat tax.
==
Only one caller seemed less than genuine. "You
sound like a guy who sells home security systems,"
said the man, identifying himself as 18 and from
Pottawattamie County.
It seemed that about 4 Republicans during one of the debates endorsed
the fair tax.
What is Flip-Flopper Fee-Fee Romney's current view of the flat tax?
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu
Levin allowed Romney to take swipes at Huckabee on immigration,
without discussing Romney's own immigration record.
Levin failed to discuss Romney's record on anything. (No wonder--
Romney's MA record is that embarrassing for a Republican to run on.)
Levin spoke of Mike Huckabee supporters as "Huckaphonies."
Levin called Huckabee "Huckaphony"-- which is hilarious, because
Romney is far and away a complete fraud and utter phony.
Levin used these words to describe Romney: principled, consistent,
conservative. A quote: "he's [Romney is] the most consistent and
principled."
What a riot. In reality, Romney lacks any core convictions, any core
principles, hasn't been consistent on *anything*, and implemented
radical leftist policies while MA governor.
///////////////////////////////////////////
RomneyCare funds MA abortions, and is KennedyCare/ HillaryCare,
bottom section of
Huckabee vs. Romney
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/b8874f14563f4df0
Limbaugh now attacking McCain in ad
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/18c2eabf5ea7539c
Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/f66e6dad0487ed0f
Fournier, Deacon Keith. 1/26/2008. "Let Huckabee Speak, Let Huckabee
Run... and check his pockets" _Catholic Online_
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=26591
Huckabee's manner and his message, when he is
allowed to speak, strike a chord with many people
from a broad spectrum of increasingly disillusioned
voters. Because of that, the elites try to marginalize
him through condescension, like Krauthammer did.
Or, worse yet, they unleash vitriol against him, such
as what Mark Levin stooped to in his Thursday talk
radio program when he made himself small by
crude remarks against this good man.
"Conservative Elites" Covering Up Romney's Betrayals on Marriage,
Life, Children and Constitution.
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
ad: Mitt Romney: "Look at my Record"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFGA_HN3Yc&feature=PlayList&p=FD9F88028457D175&index=0
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist e.g. on homosexuality
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-8574-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney an abortion chameleon on videotapes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=54f3c9a0-e082-44f8-94d6-21110c3c25c5%40s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Concord Monitor: Romney is a phony
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=222b33a4-9a6e-4a6f-8a44-43c2fb31f842%40i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com
Romney flip-flops on immigration etc.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a49-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com