"Where's all the China Blue food?" <
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> In article <
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> MattB <
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>
>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:52:03 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
>> <
chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <k6bnn0$i0j$
2...@dont-email.me>, Mark Hill <mh...@qmail.not>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> While the Obama White House *ignored the frantic emails* from our
>> >> Libyan
>> >> Embassy WHILE THEY WERE UNDER ATTACK, things were getting bad, very,
>> >> very bad...
>> >
>> >What were they supposed to do?
>>
>> Well someone here, a liberal says we don't need military just nukes.
>> So the liberal way would be to nuke them.
>
> Do you think an invasion can be mounted from scratch in just a few hours?
>
> How do you think that Libya, trying to be a friendly nation, would react
> to an
> invasion?
>
> Do you know the US responded the FBI rather than the Marine Corps?
>
> Do you know that US embassies and consulates world wide depend on the host
> nations to protect them?
>
>
>> Fact is Obama lied and I have a feeling for reasons to do with the
>
> Try not to be a partisan idiot.
Try not to project exactly what you know you are guilty and start giving
more of a fuck about your country as opposed to shamelessly shilling for
Hussein and the democrats.
Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an
urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on
the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by
U.S. officials -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down"
rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at
approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.
Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA
annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens
and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired,
they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were
hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They
were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange.
Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the
consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue
team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and
Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find
the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
At that point, they called again for military support and help because they
were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.
There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present
at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their
headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of
the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA
compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and
repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is
commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to
Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The
fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time
for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive.
Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations
forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis
Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but
they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were
never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force
that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella,
according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those
sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were
the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre
gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide
close air support.
According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator
on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the
Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were
calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday
that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the
ground in Benghazi to send help.
"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said
Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces
into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the
fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading
officials to believe the attack was over.
Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones
redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They
were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to
relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of
sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any
U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House
Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up
that video in real time on their computers.
Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen
Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or
GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides
countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a
mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on
the consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for
the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to
sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the
annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.
A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber
machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia
which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at
approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had
arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial
attack on the consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport
because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to
confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the
annex, according to Benghazi sources.
The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were
part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and
were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and
repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar
Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000
missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a
commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the
attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers
and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know
what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the
Libyan forces.
Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be
present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the
Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by
pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That
farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the ambassador wanted to be
present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/
-Eddie Haskell