VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. � A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury�s December
recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
killing. (end pasted article)
What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
out of your way to make life tougher for them.
Of course, if it weren't for bigots like you, revealing
that this man had an affair with another man would not
have posed the slightest threat to his career.
See how easy this could be?
SR
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am...@seas7.e4word.com wrote:
> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>
> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. � A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
> man, ending his naval career.
So "No place for homosexuals in the military" really should read
""No place for murderers in the military" but of course that
would be too ironic.
> Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury�s December
> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
> killing. (end pasted article)
So "No place for homosexuals in the military" really should read
""No place for bisexual murderers who two time their wives, in the military"
>
> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
> honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
> Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
> career.
Has it occurred to you that the reason he killed her might have
something to do with the fact that being outed as a homosexual
could have ruined his career? Why should "Don't ask don't tell"
(the gutless compromise of Hypocrites who will send gays to war but not
acknowledge them), only apply to the homosexuals.
No one serving their country should be persecuted because of their
sexuality.
End of Story.
Nothing in the above excuses him for the responsibility of his crime
> Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
> homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
> be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
> Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
> should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
> saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
> a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
> the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
> out of your way to make life tougher for them.
Idiot.
When, as increasingly is the case in war, civilians are killed,
women raped and the peace of society destroyed ANYONE willing to fight
is welcome, in my view
You probably work alongside gays and don't even know it.
And, if you are a Christian, Jesus sat down with prostitutes, lepers
and even TAX COLLECTORS.. "who is Worthy" EVERYONE IS WORTHY.
Follow His example, and Show some fucking LOVE!
If you are a Buddhist, ditto for COMPASSION.
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Excuse me, but the above you posted would indicate that the guy was BISEXUAL
not Gay.
Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?
> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon
> the honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in
> which a Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat
> to his career.
>
That you have not heard of one does not mean they exist. For
example, if a solider has a top secret security clearance, the
spouse will quite likely have to have a clearance too, although not
necessarily top secret. The failure for the spouse to get a
clearance can be grounds for denying the soldiers clearance, which
could be a threat to the soldier's career. Now assuming that all
goes well and the spouse has a clearance, if said spouse does
something to jeopardize that clearance, said soldier might be
inclined to remove the spouse before the problem becomes noticeable
by the brass. And it really doesn't matter that the spouse has
different plumbing than the soldier.
--
Acceptance without proof
is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion;
Rejection without proof
is the fundamental characteristic of Western science.
- Gary Zukav, The Dancing Wu Li Masters
Having fought in Viet Nam as an infantryman, I want all of the
homosexuals in the military.
>
> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>
> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. ? A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
> man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury?s December
> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
> killing. (end pasted article)
>
> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
> honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
> Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
> career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
> homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
> be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
> Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
> should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
> saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
> a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
> the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
> out of your way to make life tougher for them.
What a load of crap!
First the "homosexual" in question is in a heterosexual marriage.
Bisexual rather then homosexual. A minor point but an error reflecting
the error of the post in general.
Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
the ban against homosexuality. If his sexuality was not an issue then
his career would not have been an issue. The "danger" of disclosure was
present only because it was unnecessarily created.
Doubtless many heterosexual members of the navy have also brought
dishonour onto the navy through a variety of crimes and misdemeanours.
In those cases it reflects on the person and not their heterosexuality.
So it should be for homosexuals.
Far from establishing the case that the ban on homosexuals is justified
the post actually establishes a good case against such a ban.
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What's the matter, couldn't get a woman to give you head?
> On Sep 29, 8:37�pm, HotelCharlieOne <hotel_charlie_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> a...@seas7.e4word.com wrote
>> innews:7n35c51j9o52fqnmovf86qdgquadkdi1am@4ax
I was Air Force assigned to NATO in the cold war and there
homosexuality was not a problem for any body's forces (except ours).
It wasn't a problem. What the soldiers did on their downtime was
their business but when on-duty, it was all professional. We could
learn a lot from this (if we could get rid of the bigots).
I met a disgruntled major in Nam who had followed this captain all
over the world trying to catch him in a homosexual act Major's salary
+ airfare + TDY
Did He sit down with Faggots? Nope...
>"who is Worthy"
Apparently NOT faggots.
>Follow His example, and Show some fucking LOVE!
Did He sit down with Faggots? Nope...
Follow His example...
That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
From: Meteorite Debris <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: c-61-68-236-244.ade.connect.net.au
Adelaide, Australia.
lol he just happened to have a large number of "confirmed bachelors" in
his entourage.
*snigger*
Since you keep bringing this up, you must be one.
Dan Milosevic "the one true Slobodan"
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
> >the ban against homosexuality.
>
> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
Your point?
5(H) When he entered Capernaum, a centurion came forward to him, appealing
to him, 6"Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, suffering terribly."
7And he said to him, "I will come and heal him." 8But the centurion replied,
"Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof, but(I) only say the
word, and my servant will be healed. 9For I too am a man under authority,
with soldiers under me. And I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes, and to another,
'Come,' and he comes, and to my servant,[c] 'Do this,' and he does it."
10When Jesus heard this,(J) he marveled and said to those who followed him,
"Truly, I tell you, with(K) no one in Israel[d] have I found such faith. 11I
tell you,(L) many will come from east and west and recline at table with
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, 12(M) while the sons of
the kingdom(N) will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place(O)
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13And to the centurion Jesus
said, "Go; let it be done for you(P) as you have believed."(Q) And the
servant was healed at that very moment.
show me where or withdraw the comment that I keep brining this up.
Sorry, I couldn't find your QUOTE "confirmed bachelors" anywhere in
the Bible.
So let's work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR....
From: martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4c7911f1.news.zen.co.uk
Oh, wait, the UK....
Now we must work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR and a FAGGOT!
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Thanks for PROVING my point.
Jesus NEVER DID sit down with FAGGOTS.
You just proved my point...
Aussie's are TOO STUPID to bother with.
Go mind your OWN business.
> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:56:16 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
> >> >the ban against homosexuality.
> >> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
> >> From: Meteorite Debris <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au>
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: c-61-68-236-244.ade.connect.net.au
> >> Adelaide, Australia.
> >Your point?
>
> You just proved my point...
>
> Aussie's are TOO STUPID to bother with.
>
> Go mind your OWN business.
What's that I can see? Someone living in a glasshouse telling me to let
him be (a bigot who will not leave others' sexuality to be).
> On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:41:17 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
Or with any Chinese. Therefore Jesus does not like the Chinese.
Who said it was a quote from the bible? Why not tell us how many of his
middle aged disciples were married. *snigger* "confirmed bachelors the
lot of them. Bet they went into bath-houses together.
> So let's work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR....
lied about what?
YOU put it in quotes...
How does it feel to made a FOOL of in public?
Hahahahaha!!
>Why not tell us how many of his
>middle aged disciples were married.
Nobody knows. The Bible only mentions one.
>> So let's work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR....
>lied about what?
About being a normal human heterosexual male...
Wrong.
Jesus HAD the opportunity to sit down with Faggots but AVOIDED them
because they were genetic mutations.
Jesus DID NOT have the opportunity to sit down with Chinks because
there weren't any Chinks where Jesus was. Jesus also did not travel
to Australia so while we can assume that he HATES Aussies we just
don't know for certain.
No, but try to pay attention.
What happens in America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS even though it may or
may not involve your kind - The genetic mutant faggots.
Let's ask you. How about the British knife ban statistics quote that
you faked?
> Are you claiming the CITE didn't state "(up 7.3%... between July 07
> and March 08)"?"
Nowhere in the document do these words occur.
Tater
Where did I say I was quoting the bible? Well, show me.
> How does it feel to made a FOOL of in public?
You need to ask me? Look in a mirror.
> Hahahahaha!!
>
>> Why not tell us how many of his
>> middle aged disciples were married.
>
> Nobody knows. The Bible only mentions one.
as I said, "confirmed bachelors" *snigger*
>
>>> So let's work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR....
>> lied about what?
>
> About being a normal human heterosexual male...
Where did I say that? I have certainly never said I was "normal" so
you're making up shit again.
So what are they now then?
I FAKED it?
Are you sure THIS IS NOT YOUR ORIGINAL:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/0512853060eba1c2?hl=en
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>> Are you claiming the CITE didn't state "(up 7.3%... between July 07
>> and March 08)"?"
>Nowhere in the document do these words occur.
Except here:
"During the TKAP period (July 2008 to March 2009), there were 23
provisionally recorded sharp-instrument homicides in the 19-and-under
age group - exactly the same number as recorded in the same period in
the previous year - and 103 provisionally recorded TKAP
sharp-instrument homicide victims aged 20 and over (up 7.3% from 96
between July 07 and March 08)."
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs09/horr18c.pdf
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> Wrong.
>
> Jesus HAD the opportunity to sit down with Faggots but AVOIDED them
> because they were genetic mutations.
Why would you tell such a blatent and obvious lie?
Joshua healed the homosexual lover of the Centurion without pause. This
would have been the perfect time to speak out about the evils of
homosexuality. He did not. Since he healed the lover, one would expect
that he and the Centurion would go back to their previous behavior. Why if
it was so odious to Joshua and his daddy, would Joshua cure him.
Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times. He says that two men
would be harvesting in the field, one would be taken up to heaven by
Joshuas's daddy, and one would be left behind. Joshua mentions a third
case with two women weaving together, one would be taken straight up to
heaven and the other left behind.
But the second scenario is the most interesting and completely blows away
your bullshit. Two men are sleeping in one bed together, one is taken
straight up to heaven by Joshua's daddy, and the other would be left
behind. Here Joshua is telling everyone that one of the men sleeping with
the other man definitely has a ticket to heaven on the non-stop flight.
That contradicts your inane belief set.
--
Later,
Darrell
I'm not going to show you my cock. Stop asking. Go ask one of your
fellow Faggots...
>> How does it feel to made a FOOL of in public?
>> Hahahahaha!!
>>> Why not tell us how many of his
>>> middle aged disciples were married.
>> Nobody knows. The Bible only mentions one.
>as I said, "confirmed bachelors" *snigger*
God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
>>>> So let's work on the assumption that YOU ARE A LIAR....
>>> lied about what?
>> About being a normal human heterosexual male...
>Where did I say that? I have certainly never said I was "normal" so
>you're making up shit again.
Ask God to help you to stop sucking dicks.
Same thing. Genetic mutations.
>>> Why not tell us how many of his
>>> middle aged disciples were married.
>>
>> Nobody knows. The Bible only mentions one.
>
> as I said, "confirmed bachelors" snigger
>
Joshua himself tells us he was married, and so does Paul. Acts tells us
Peter was married, but was traveling with a woman other than his wife.
Remember Joshua says he followed Mosaic Law down to the smallest iota.
Mosaic Law proscribed that Jewish males be married and have children by age
22. The gospels relate that Joshua was called Rabbi. That seals the deal.
Rabbis had to follow that rule with absolutely no exceptions. Then read
the bit about the marriage at Cana. Read it carefully keeping in mind the
customs of the day. In what capacity did Mary and Joshua serve? Big hint:
who was in charge of wedding feasts back then?
Paul tells us he was a Pharisee and followed the letter of the law.
Bingo -- marriage. He also writes that he was of the Sanhedrin. BING,
BING, BING!!! Double bingo. Doubly no exceptions. Besides he tells us he
was married.
I won't detail the other 15 to 17 named apostles (the gospels and Acts
contradict each other), but if they were Jewish over the age of 22, they
too were married.
--
Later,
Darrell
Sorry, that was merely a servant of the Centurion...
>Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times.
No cite = REJECTED.
>That contradicts your inane belief set.
God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
Ask God to help you stop sucking dicks.
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:31:35 -0400, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>Patriot Games inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>> Wrong.
>>> Jesus HAD the opportunity to sit down with Faggots but AVOIDED them
>>> because they were genetic mutations.
>>Why would you tell such a blatent and obvious lie?
>>Joshua healed the homosexual lover of the Centurion without pause.
>
> Sorry, that was merely a servant of the Centurion...
>
Too bad you don't read the Greek. In Matthew, the word incorrectly
translated as servant in your KJV is "pais". It has a specific meaning in
Greek. A "pais" (and you can check the relevant Greek and Roman literature
on this if you had even half a brain) is the aide to Roman and Greek
officers who also serves as a sexual outlet during military campaigns and
foreign outpostings.
The Greek word "doulos" is used for slave, bondperson or servant and appears
120 times in scripture. The Centurion uses THAT word when he refers to his
other servants. But for his lover, for whom he sought a cure, he uses the
word "pais", not just once but in every verse he refers to this young man.
At all other times the author of the story has both the Centurion and
Joshua using "doulos" for other servants.
But not able to read the original languages nor literature of the times, you
would not know that.
>>Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times.
>
> No cite = REJECTED.
>
Wow. Why cite such a common well known set of verses, which appears in
bibles which are in your, and most people's homes. There are only four
very short gospels to read.
But of course, you have to be able to read the Greek to understand them
without the bias of religious nut jobs.
Now go back and look in the gospels where Joshua talks about the end of
times. As a hint: it comes AFTER the stories of his birth and BEFORE the
stories of his death.
Here, maybe this will help you:
lego humin taute te nukti esontai duo epi klines mias ho eis
paralemphthesetai kai ho hetepos aphethesetai esontai duo alethousai epi to
auto he mia paralemphthesetai he de hetera aphethesetai
Oh, wait, you can't read the original languages, yet in spite of being a
dunce, you think you are capable of contradicting someone who can.
>>That contradicts your inane belief set.
>
> God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
>
> Ask God to help you stop sucking dicks.
Why are you always writing about your homosexual fantasies? Is it the
forbidden fruit syndrome?
--
Later,
Darrell
> "Don't ask don't tell" (the gutless compromise of Hypocrites who will send gays to war but not
>acknowledge them),
The US military is an all volunteer service, however, no one has a
'right' to serve. No homosexuals has to go to war they can easily
avoid it by simply not enlisting in any of the Armed Forces. The
capability of the US Armed Forces would not be impeded in any way if
it had not one homosexual in its ranks. On the other hand, the same
cannot be said of heterosexuals. See how that works?
A number of gay Arabic speaking soldiers were discharged.
Considering the severe shortage such soldiers, it hurt our war
effort...and was DUMB.
"updated 12:53 p.m. ET, Thurs., July 27, 2006
JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. - A decorated sergeant and Arabic language
specialist was dismissed from the U.S. Army under the "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell" policy, though he says he never admitted being gay and his
accuser was never identified.
Bleu Copas, 30, told The Associated Press he is gay, but said he was
"outed" by a stream of anonymous e-mails to his superiors in the 82nd
Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C...."
>
><am...@seas7.e4word.com> wrote in message
>news:7n35c51j9o52fqnmo...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>>
>> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
>> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
>> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
>> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
>> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
>> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
>> man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
>> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
>> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury's December
>> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
>> killing. (end pasted article)
>>
>> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
>> honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
>> Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
>> career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
>> homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
>> be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
>> Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
>> should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
>> saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
>> a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
>> the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
>> out of your way to make life tougher for them.
>
>
>
>Excuse me, but the above you posted would indicate that the guy was BISEXUAL
>not Gay.
>
>Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?
Oh, it's you again; "He of limited knowledge about so many things!"
Are you not aware that homosexuals have been known to use marriage as
a cover for their homosexuality -- To remain in the "closet" when
coming out might be detrimental to their chosen career then after
years of lying learning too late, as have so many homosexuals, that
"honesty is the best policy".
That you don't know these things causes me to ask; "How far into the
"out back" do you live"?
>Last time that great scribe <am...@seas7.e4word.com> chipped away at
>his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
>>
>> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>>
>> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. ? A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
>> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
>> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
>> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
>> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
>> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
>> man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
>> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
>> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury?s December
>> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
>> killing. (end pasted article)
>>
>> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
>> honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
>> Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
>> career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
>> homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
>> be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
>> Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
>> should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
>> saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
>> a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
>> the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
>> out of your way to make life tougher for them.
>
>What a load of crap!
>
>First the "homosexual" in question is in a heterosexual marriage.
>Bisexual rather then homosexual. A minor point but an error reflecting
>the error of the post in general.
So, you are a neighbor of the guy from Australia.
>I was Air Force assigned to NATO in the cold war
Air Force! Cold War! Wow! You must be terribly proud of having pulled
one on Uncle.
>Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
>away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
>> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
>> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
>> >the ban against homosexuality.
>>
>> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
>
>Your point?
You, Richard Cranium.
He "knows" that god helped him to stop, so he wants to spread the word.
>
>
>
> --
> Later,
> Darrell
So a man was married to a woman in order to hide his homosexuality, and then
he had an affair with another woman to do what exactly?
Dunno, why not ask republican senators who hang around airport toilets?
Or evangelical christians who snort coke out of their lovers' arses.
>
>
> martin inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>
> >>> Why not tell us how many of his
> >>> middle aged disciples were married.
> >>
> >> Nobody knows. Â The Bible only mentions one.
> >
> > as I said, "confirmed bachelors" snigger
> >
>
> Joshua himself tells us he was married, and so does Paul. Acts tells us
> Peter was married, but was traveling with a woman other than his wife.
>
> Remember Joshua says he followed Mosaic Law down to the smallest iota.
> Mosaic Law proscribed that Jewish males be married and have children by age
> 22.
Nothing quiet like a theocracy. Your private life is our business.
Ancient Israel looks like for all the world to be a mirror image of the
Taliban.
Tell me as a matter of curiosity what happened if children were
biologically impossible due to infertility of one or the other partner?
And what happens between 2 consenting people in private is NONE OF YOUR
BUSINESS.
????
> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:56:16 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> >
> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
> >> >the ban against homosexuality.
> >>
> >> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
> >
> >Your point?
>
> You, Richard Cranium.
Pointless reply.
You could ask Barney Frank how many page cocks he sucks each
day, or pro-fag Biden how many whitehouse fellows will drill his
ass this week.
If it result in the transmission of a deadly disease from one person
to another it's EVERYONE'S BUSINESS and that is the frequent result of
homosexuals sex.
>Last time that great scribe William (nmn) Taylor, Esq <william-nmn-
>tay...@stanford.edu> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom
>for posterity ...
>
>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:56:16 +0930, Meteorite Debris
>> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
>> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
>> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
>> >> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
>> >> >the ban against homosexuality.
>> >>
>> >> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
>> >
>> >Your point?
>>
>> You, Richard Cranium.
>
>Pointless reply.
Precisely what your reply rated.
A simple Fermi-question style calculation suggests that there
are three to four times as many gays in the United
States as there are people named "Taylor". Which
leads to the following straightforward observation:
The US military is an all volunteer service, however,
no one has a 'right' to serve. No one named "Taylor"
has to go to war they can easily avoid it by simply not
enlisting in any of the Armed Forces. The capability of
the US Armed Forces would not be impeded in any way if
it had not one person named "Taylor" in its ranks. On
the other hand, the same cannot be said ragarding non-bigots,
who are far more numerous. See how that works?
SlothyR
Matthew was NOT originally written in Greek.
>But not able to read the original languages nor literature of the times, you
>would not know that.
No cite = REJECTED.
>>>Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times.
>> No cite = REJECTED.
>Wow. Why cite such a common well known set of verses, which appears in
>bibles which are in your, and most people's homes. There are only four
>very short gospels to read.
No cite = REJECTED.
Of course it is. America is country governed by the Rule of Law, and
OBEYING THE LAW is the concern of ALL Americans.
Try again, Faggot.
And of heterosexual sex. That is why safe-sex is encouraged, and you are
right; encouraging safe-sex is everybody's business.
Oh 'he that wants to show just how stupid he is' (IE you) wrote the above
and could not have noticed that I was not talking about they guy's wife when
I said "Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?"
The original document said "also had discovered her husband was having an
affair with a woman"
So as I said the guy was bisexual, otherwise why would he be having an
affair with a woman?
How far up the Ozarks do you live and how interrelated are your parents?
{Do you really have 9 fingers on one hand} :-)
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:03:52 +1030, Meteorite Debris
So no women voting? so keeping slaves is OK? So blacks should sit in the
back of the bus and stay out of white restaurants? So no interracial
marriages?
So tables and chairs must have pantaloons? So people celebrating Christmas
should be jailed or put to death?
All of those were things that were legal at one time or another. All of
those are now considered illegal. Under your insane view, nothing that was
once considered legal should be considered illegal. Under your insane
opinion we should never try to correct a wrong.
> Try again, Faggot.
Stop using a mirror. You are obsessing about homosexual fantasies again.
--
Later,
Darrell
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:40:13 -0400, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>Patriot Games inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:31:35 -0400, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Patriot Games inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>> Jesus HAD the opportunity to sit down with Faggots but AVOIDED them
>>>>> because they were genetic mutations.
>>>>Why would you tell such a blatent and obvious lie?
>>>>Joshua healed the homosexual lover of the Centurion without pause.
>>> Sorry, that was merely a servant of the Centurion...
>>Too bad you don't read the Greek. In Matthew...
>
> Matthew was NOT originally written in Greek.
>
The book that is in the bible presently known as the Gospel According to
Matthew was originally written in Greek. There is not a single respected
scholar that believes otherwise today.
Please with your infinite knowledge of biblical languages lay out a case for
any other language using explicit words, transliteration, and etymologies.
Oh wait. You can't. You have admitted in the past you have no knowledge
of any biblical language.
What you maybe be confused about is a copy, of a copy, of a copy some
thousand years later of fragments perported to be by Eusebius wherein he
claimed to have gotten from someone who may or may not have lived that
mentioned a gospel by someone named Matthew written in Aramaic.
However the description of that work bears absolutely no resemblance to the
gospel of Matthew. And worse for you, the gospel of Matthew like all the
books of the NT had no titles in the oldest manuscripts. They were all
anonymous. Names of the books were added much later.
Anyone who can read, write and speak multiple languages knows there are
telltale signs of translations. That is why a native German speaker says
things in English that are a bit off from the way a native English speaker
would say them. You apparently have no experience in this. Otherwise you
would know why biblical scholars do not believe the NT was written in any
other language except for Greek. Matthew has none of the signs of having
been translated from another language. However we can tell that Jerome's
Latin version was translated from Greek as all the signs are there.
>>But not able to read the original languages nor literature of the times,
>>you would not know that.
>
> No cite = REJECTED.
>
>>>>Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times.
>>> No cite = REJECTED.
>>Wow. Why cite such a common well known set of verses, which appears in
>>bibles which are in your, and most people's homes. There are only four
>>very short gospels to read.
>
> No cite = REJECTED.
>
How dishonest you are!!!! You purposely deleted the Greek text which I
gave. Here is is again.
lego humin taute te nukti esontai duo epi klines mias ho eis
paralemphthesetai kai ho hetepos aphethesetai esontai duo alethousai epi to
auto he mia paralemphthesetai he de hetera aphethesetai
You can find it in any Greek manuscript, pretty much unchanged except for
one small modifier, in every Greek version.
That is the exact cite. And I know damned well you know the biblical verses
to which I refer. The verses are repeated in another of the five gospels
and paraphrased in a third.
>>> God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
>>> Ask God to help you stop sucking dicks.
>>Why are you always writing about your homosexual fantasies?
>
> God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
>
>>Is it the forbidden fruit syndrome?
>
> Ask God to help you stop sucking dicks.
Ask your god to help you stop fantasizing and obsessing about homoeroticism.
--
Later,
Darrell
The "Word of god" or the word of the various translators...whose
translation served their own purpose?
> Last time that great scribe Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com> chipped
> away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
>> martin inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>
>> >>> Why not tell us how many of his
>> >>> middle aged disciples were married.
>> >>
>> >> Nobody knows. Â The Bible only mentions one.
>> >
>> > as I said, "confirmed bachelors" snigger
>> >
>>
>> Joshua himself tells us he was married, and so does Paul. Acts tells us
>> Peter was married, but was traveling with a woman other than his wife.
>>
>> Remember Joshua says he followed Mosaic Law down to the smallest iota.
>> Mosaic Law proscribed that Jewish males be married and have children by
>> age 22.
>
> Nothing quiet like a theocracy. Your private life is our business.
> Ancient Israel looks like for all the world to be a mirror image of the
> Taliban.
>
Only because some of what we take to be Judaism came from Zoroastrianism.
The princes and priests returning from Babylon after being freed by Darius,
called Christ in the OT, borrowed from the old Persian religion and made it
part of Judaism and then forced it on those who had remained in Israel and
Judea for centuries at the point of the sword. Islam was a hodge podge of
Judaism, Christianity and a bit more than one third Zoroastrianism.
> Tell me as a matter of curiosity what happened if children were
> biologically impossible due to infertility of one or the other partner?
>
>
According to Jewish law then that person could not be a Rabbi, could not be
a Pharisee and especially could not be part of the Sanhedrin. The mere
fact that either Joshua or Paul was called these things was clear intent by
the authors to signify they followed the Mosaic Law and therefore HAD to
have been married and with children.
But you have to realize that I am writing about this in the same light as I
would in discussing whether Balrogs had wings. It is within the framework
of the literature, the fiction. I certainly do not think Balrogs, or
Sauron, or Frodo or Gandalf existed. But I can within the the framework of
the story discuss the finer points with other readers. Christopher
recently came out with a History of the development of The Hobbit, showing
changes from one version of his father's writing to the next. So in the
same light I can discuss the changes in the manuscripts over time of
scripture. I might add that I do not believe Hobbits, nor Orcs nor Elves
existed, if you get my meaning.
--
Later,
Darrell
Seems to be more bisexual, however there have also been numerous
heterosexual husbands beat and even kill their wives. It's not a
real common occurence, but it's common enough.
You're looking for logic where obviously none exists.
It depends. The policy is not universal for spouses, or at least
wasn't when I was in. It was typically left up to the base
commander. The spouse is always investigated, usually by both the NIS
and the FBI, and can be "cleared", but the issuance of an actual
clearance depends on the policy of the BC. You are right that a
failure to be cleared can result in the denial/loss of the soldier/
sailor's clearance, and threaten the soldier/sailor's career.
The failure for the spouse to get a
> clearance can be grounds for denying the soldiers clearance, which
> could be a threat to the soldier's career. Now assuming that all
> goes well and the spouse has a clearance, if said spouse does
> something to jeopardize that clearance, said soldier might be
> inclined to remove the spouse before the problem becomes noticeable
> by the brass. And it really doesn't matter that the spouse has
> different plumbing than the soldier.
>
> --
> Acceptance without proof
> is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion;
> Rejection without proof
> is the fundamental characteristic of Western science.
> - Gary Zukav, The Dancing Wu Li Masters
Well, he hung out with 12 men and never dated. He may well have sat
down with a lot of gay men.
Man made god in his image.
--
Later,
Darrell
An unmarried thirty something man in those days . . . .
I think that Jesus must have really liked the Chinese, he made so many
of them. :D
Did you lose your tweezers and magnifying glass?
Exactly.
LIARS are EXPOSED:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:42:48 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>The rate of AIDS amoung gay men in the US has never topped 6.5% at its
>highest, and has come down to around 3.9% - 4.2% the last I heard
>(around 2006). Certainly a cause for concern, but nothing that could
>be legitimately deemed "extremely high"
Does it suck to be EXPOSED as a LIAR?
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/AIDS_infections_us/2008/08/02/118467.html
Over 56,000 New AIDS Infections Each Year in U.S.
Saturday, August 2, 2008
WASHINGTON -- At least 56,000 people become infected with the AIDS
virus every year in the United States -- 40 percent more than previous
estimates, according to a report from the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention.
The CDC stressed that actual infection rates have not risen but said
better methods of measuring new diagnosed infections and then
extrapolating this to the general population led to the fresh
estimates.
"CDC's first estimates from this system reveal that the HIV epidemic
is -- and has been -- worse than previously known. Results indicate
that approximately 56,300 new HIV infections occurred in the United
States in 2006," the CDC said in a statement.
"This figure is roughly 40 percent higher than CDC's former estimate
of 40,000 infections per year, which was based on limited data and
less precise methods."
Globally, 33 million people are infected with the human
immunodeficiency virus that causes AIDS and 2 million die of it each
year.
The CDC estimates roughly 1 million Americans are infected with the
virus. Dr. Kevin Fenton, who heads CDC's AIDS branch, said 15,000 to
18,000 Americans die every year of AIDS.
"The data really confirm that there is a severe impact of this
epidemic among gay and bisexual men in the United States ... as well
as black men and women," Fenton said in a telephone interview.
More than 28,000 of the new infections are among men who have sex with
men, the new estimates show. Close to 17,000 are among heterosexuals
-- and 15,000 of these are women.
"These data are confirming what we had known before," Fenton said. "It
also mirrors what we see about sexually transmitted diseases and
changes in risk behavior among men who have sex with men."
RISKY SEX
Many recent studies have shown gay and bisexual men are having risky,
unprotected sex more often than before, perhaps emboldened by the
knowledge that the disease can be treated.
But AIDS remains incurable and is fatal if not treated. There is no
vaccine and the drugs stop working if people do not take them
precisely as directed.
The numbers, published in the Journal of the American Medical
Association, also confirm that black Americans are seven times more
likely to be infected than whites.
"The reality is that it is a wake-up call for all of us," Fenton said.
"There are things that you and I can do to stop the disease --
encourage others to use condoms consistently and correctly, abstain
from sex."
AIDS spreads rampantly in prisons, he added.
Communities need to provide better education and testing services,
Fenton said.
Fears of being stigmatized have stopped people from being tested -- 25
percent of those infected do not know it and can pass along the virus.
But there was some comfort in the numbers.
"It is important to note that the new estimate does not represent an
actual increase in the annual number of new HIV infections," CDC said.
"In fact, CDC's analysis suggests that the epidemic has been roughly
stable since the late 1990s, though the number of new HIV infections
remains unacceptably high," it said.
"The analysis shows that new infections peaked in the mid-1980s at
approximately 130,000 infections per year and reached a low of about
50,000 in the early 1990s."
Cocktails of HIV drugs can keep patients alive and healthy but not
everyone gets them, Fenton said.
Too many Americans are diagnosed late, after the virus has already
damaged the immune system beyond repair, he said.
=================================
http://www.newsmax.com/us/aids_gay_men_black/2008/09/11/130027.html
Analysis Confirms AIDS Epidemic Hits Men Hard
Thursday, September 11, 2008
WASHINGTON - AIDS remains largely a disease of gay and bisexual men in
the United States but also disproportionately infects black women,
according to an analysis published on Thursday.
Last month, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
reported that more than 56,000 people in the United States become
newly infected with the human immunodeficiency virus each year, far
more than previous estimates of about 40,000.
Now the CDC has further analyzed those numbers to find the fatal and
incurable virus largely infects men who have sex with men, or MSM -- a
group that includes gays, bisexuals and men who may have the
occasional sexual encounter with other men.
"The male-to-male sexual contact transmission category represented 72
percent of new infections among males, including 81 percent of new
infections among whites, 63 percent among blacks, and 72 percent among
Hispanics," the report said.
Of the new infections in 2006, more than half were among gay and
bisexual men, the CDC found. Of these, 46 percent of new infections
were among whites, 35 percent among blacks and 19 percent in
Hispanics.
But among the overall U.S. population, more blacks are affected -- 46
percent of new infections were among blacks.
The CDC said it needed to redouble prevention efforts, especially in
the black community.
"The alarming number of new infections among young black MSM
underscores the need to ensure that each new generation has the
knowledge and skills to prevent HIV infection beginning early in their
lives," the report reads.
Girls and women made up 27 percent of new infections, with high-risk
sexual contact with men causing 80 percent of new infections.
"Among females, 61 percent of infections were in blacks, 23 percent
were in whites, and 16 percent were in Hispanics," the CDC report
reads.
There is no cure for the AIDS virus, which is transmitted in bodily
fluids such as blood, semen and breast milk. Around the world, sexual
contact is by far the most common mode of transmission although people
who use contaminated needles can be infected, and blood transfusions
also can cause infection.
"African-Americans make up 12 percent of the total U.S. population,
yet represented 45 percent of new HIV infections in the United States
in 2006," the CDC wrote.
Globally, 33 million people are infected with HIV and 25 million have
died of it. There is no vaccine or cure although drug cocktails can
help control the infection.
===============================
http://www.newsmax.com/us/hiv_infections_cdc/2008/10/02/136859.html
CDC: 1.1 million Americans Infected With HIV
Thursday, October 2, 2008
WASHINGTON - A new estimate of how many Americans have the AIDS virus
puts the number at about 1.1 million, the U.S. Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention said on Thursday.
The CDC numbers, based on 2006 data, show the population living with
HIV is growing as people become newly infected and as more patients
survive thanks to HIV drugs.
The report also suggests that past estimates that more than 1 million
Americans were living with HIV overstated the actual total number of
people with HIV infections at the time.
The agency used different methods than it has in the past to calculate
the number. Its most recent nationwide estimate of 1 million had been
given for 2003, and using the new methods the CDC figured that 994,000
were living with HIV that year.
"These data really show the continued impact that the epidemic is
having on Americans, and they really reinforce the severe toll that is
experienced in multiple communities," the CDC's Richard Wolitski said
in a telephone interview.
The CDC report reinforced previous findings that the epidemic
disproportionately affects blacks of both sexes as well as gay and
bisexual men.
As the number of people living with HIV grows, so does the cost of
providing medical services to this population and the burden on the
U.S. health care system, Wolitski said.
The CDC estimated that about one in five -- 232,700 of the 1.1 million
people infected with the human immunodeficiency virus that causes AIDS
-- did not know they were infected. The total U.S. population is 300
million.
"We're not going to be able to treat our way out of this epidemic. We
need to have strong prevention programs so we can prevent these
infections from occurring in the first place," said Wolitski, acting
chief of the CDC's HIV/AIDS prevention division.
Men made up three quarters of people with HIV infections.
NEW ESTIMATES
The CDC previously reported that more people are becoming infected
each year than previously estimated, with 56,300 new HIV infections in
the United States in 2006. Previous estimates put the number of new
infections at about 40,000 a year.
Of all the people infected with HIV, 48 percent were men who have sex
with men, the CDC said. While male-to-male sexual contact was the
leading cause of HIV infections, heterosexual sex -- mostly women
having sex with men who are injection drug users -- accounted for 28
percent of HIV-infected people.
Injection drug use, which spreads the blood-borne virus via
contaminated needles, contributed 19 percent of the HIV cases.
Blacks make up 12 percent of the overall population but accounted for
46 percent of those infected with HIV (510,100 people). About 35
percent of those with HIV were white and 18 percent were Hispanic,
according to the CDC.
Black women were nearly 18 times more likely than white women to be
infected with HIV, while black men were six times more likely than
white men, the CDC said. Hispanics were 2.6 times more likely than
whites to be infected.
In 2006, about 14,000 Americans died of AIDS. At the end of 2006, the
disease had killed nearly 546,000 Americans since being first
recognized in the early 1980s.
To make the new estimates, the CDC used information on new HIV
diagnoses taken from 40 states with the best data and AIDS diagnoses
and deaths taken from all 50 states, as well as a statistical method
called "back-calculation."
Globally, 33 million people have HIV and 25 million have died of it.
============================
http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/news/20081002/more-americans-living-with-hiv?src=RSS_PUBLIC
More Americans Living With HIV
New CDC Numbers: 1.1 Million in U.S. Had AIDS Virus in 2006, Up 11%
from 2003
Oct. 2, 2008 -- The CDC says 1.1 million Americans were living with
HIV in 2006, up 11% from 2003.
The new estimates are relatively good news. Thanks to better
treatment, people with HIV are living longer than ever before.
More people with HIV means more people who can spread the AIDS virus,
yet new infection rates have been stable at about 56,000 new
infections a year. This suggests expanded HIV testing and prevention
efforts are having an effect.
Nevertheless, the U.S. AIDS epidemic burns on. And it's a raging
wildfire among African-Americans:
African-Americans make up 12% of the U.S. population and 46% of those
with HIV.
18 times more African-American women than white women have HIV.
Six times more African-American men than white men have HIV.
The disparity isn't limited to African-Americans:
Hispanic-Americans make up 15% of the U.S. population yet account for
18% of those with HIV.
Four times more Hispanic women than white women have HIV.
Two times more Hispanic men than white men have HIV.
The disparity also is not limited to gender. Three-fourths of
Americans living with HIV are men.
There's also a big difference in how people became infected with HIV:
48% of Americans living with HIV are men who have sex with men.
28% of Americans living with HIV are heterosexual.
72% of American women with HIV and 13% of American men with HIV were
infected via heterosexual intercourse.
19% of Americans living with HIV were infected via injection drug use.
The percentage of people who don't know they're infected with HIV is
decreasing. That's good news, because such people are far more likely
to spread their infection than are those who know their HIV status.
However, more than one in five people living with HIV -- 232,700
Americans -- have no idea they're carrying the AIDS virus.
That accounts for another sad statistic: 38% of Americans learn they
have HIV only within a year of developing AIDS. Treatment is most
effective when HIV is diagnosed soon after infection.
The new CDC estimates appear in the Oct. 3 issue of the CDC's
Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
No cite = REJECTED.
>>>But not able to read the original languages nor literature of the times,
>>>you would not know that.
>> No cite = REJECTED.
>>>>>Also notice when Joshua talks about the end of times.
>>>> No cite = REJECTED.
>>>Wow. Why cite such a common well known set of verses, which appears in
>>>bibles which are in your, and most people's homes. There are only four
>>>very short gospels to read.
>> No cite = REJECTED.
>How dishonest you are!!!! You purposely deleted the Greek text which I
>gave. Here is is again.
>lego humin taute te nukti esontai duo epi klines mias ho eis
>paralemphthesetai kai ho hetepos aphethesetai esontai duo alethousai epi to
>auto he mia paralemphthesetai he de hetera aphethesetai
No cite = REJECTED.
>That is the exact cite.
It may or may NOT be a QUOTE, it is NOT a CITE.
By your reasoning He must COMPLETELY HATE Faggots then because He made
only about 4% of them...
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
There is room .
Just like there is room for my fist up your tax sucking maggot ass.
Fist Fucking for Jesus
You would make a good bitch you piece of shit.
Bring the War Home
Fist Fucking for Jesus
Trying to change the subject won't correct your genetic mutation.
>so keeping slaves is OK?
Trying to change the subject won't correct your genetic mutation.
>So blacks should sit in the
>back of the bus and stay out of white restaurants?
Trying to change the subject won't correct your genetic mutation.
>So no interracial marriages?
Trying to change the subject won't correct your genetic mutation.
>So tables and chairs must have pantaloons? So people celebrating Christmas
>should be jailed or put to death?
Trying to change the subject won't correct your genetic mutation.
>Under your insane opinion we should never try to correct a wrong.
"We?"
Try to pay attention. No, not "we." YOU are an Australian Faggot.
America's laws are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
If you don't like YOUR Aussie Faggot laws then go change 'em, who
cares?
>> Try again, Faggot.
>Stop using a mirror. You are obsessing about homosexual fantasies again.
God loves you but He wants you to stop sucking dicks.
Do you swallow bitch?
Exterminate god
I piss on your god you tax sucking maggot.
Exterminate the Red Cross
So, we know you're a liar. I'm not sure what that had to do with your
loss of your tweezers and magnifying glass though.
So why are you a faggot?
Ewww... I'd disinfect that if I were you.
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:03:52 +1030, Meteorite Debris
> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> >> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:31:50 +1030, Meteorite Debris
> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
> >> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> >> >> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:56:16 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> >> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> >> >Last time that great scribe Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> chipped
> >> >> >away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:40:45 +0930, Meteorite Debris
> >> >> >> <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
> >> >> >> >Second the secret that led to the murder was a secret ONLY because of
> >> >> >> >the ban against homosexuality.
> >> >> >> That would be OUR ban, which is none of YOUR business:
> >> >> >> From: Meteorite Debris <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au>
> >> >> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: c-61-68-236-244.ade.connect.net.au
> >> >> >> Adelaide, Australia.
> >> >> >Your point?
> >> >> You just proved my point...
> >> >> Aussie's are TOO STUPID to bother with.
> >> >> Go mind your OWN business.
> >> >What's that I can see?
> >> >Someone living in a glasshouse telling me to let
> >> >him be (a bigot who will not leave others' sexuality to be).
> >> No, but try to pay attention.
> >> What happens in America is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS even though it may or
> >> may not involve your kind - The genetic mutant faggots.
> >And what happens between 2 consenting people in private is NONE OF YOUR
> >BUSINESS.
>
> Of course it is. America is country governed by the Rule of Law, and
> OBEYING THE LAW is the concern of ALL Americans.
>
> Try again, Faggot.
You missed the point. You in a glasshouse are decrying someone minding
your business while you want to mine someone else's. If by "Law" you
mean the buybull then check your constitution. America is not a
Christian country. It was constituted as a SECULAR country. Oh and the
US Supreme Court has recognised the right to privacy in the matters of
sexuality in a majority opinion. So you should respect YOUR LAW.
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich prayed for me on 8 January 2009 and nothing happened.
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you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com>
If you're going to use AIDS stats as a measure of morality then the
church is condemning millions of Africans to die because they OPPOSE
safe sex and making available information and condoms.
"confirmed bachelors" the lot of them
>
>
>
Gay, asexual or incel are the choices.
Asexuality is rare, but possible. Incest, possibly, I believe James
was his brother, and gay is most likely.
>On Oct 1, 5:08�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
In their laps too...
>
><am...@seas7.e4word.com> wrote in message
>news:5lqnc5ldi49om08if...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:34:19 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
>> <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><am...@seas7.e4word.com> wrote in message
>>>news:7n35c51j9o52fqnmo...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>>>>
>>>> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
>>>> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
>>>> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
>>>> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
>>>> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
>>>> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
>>>> man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
>>>> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
>>>> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury's December
>>>> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
>>>> killing. (end pasted article)
>>>>
>>>> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
>>>> honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
>>>> Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
>>>> career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
>>>> homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
>>>> be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
>>>> Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
>>>> should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
>>>> saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
>>>> a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
>>>> the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
>>>> out of your way to make life tougher for them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Excuse me, but the above you posted would indicate that the guy was
>>>BISEXUAL
>>>not Gay.
>>>
>>>Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?
>>
>>
>> Oh, it's you again; "He of limited knowledge about so many things!"
>> Are you not aware that homosexuals have been known to use marriage as
>> a cover for their homosexuality -- To remain in the "closet" when
>> coming out might be detrimental to their chosen career then after
>> years of lying learning too late, as have so many homosexuals, that
>> "honesty is the best policy".
>>
>> That you don't know these things causes me to ask; "How far into the
>> "out back" do you live"?
>
>
>
>Oh 'he that wants to show just how stupid he is' (IE you) wrote the above
>and could not have noticed that I was not talking about they guy's wife when
>I said "Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?"
>
>The original document said "also had discovered her husband was having an
>affair with a woman"
>
>So as I said the guy was bisexual, otherwise why would he be having an
>affair with a woman?
>
>How far up the Ozarks do you live and how interrelated are your parents?
>
>{Do you really have 9 fingers on one hand} :-)
Must we constantly point out that what goes on in American society in
none of the business of a semiliterate Australian homosexual?
>On Sep 29, 7:02�pm, a...@seas7.e4word.com wrote:
>> Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>>
>> VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. � A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
>> years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
>> a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
>> Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
>> Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
>> husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
>> man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
>> divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
>> woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury�s December
>> recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
>> killing. (end pasted article)
>>
>> What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
>> honor of our Armed Forces.
>
>Seems to be more bisexual, however there have also been numerous
>heterosexual husbands beat and even kill their wives. It's not a
>real common occurence, but it's common enough.
And the there is the little lady who shoots and kills her husband
while he sleeps, pleads "domestic abuse" goes Scott free collects the
insurance and get the kids, car and house.It's not a real common
occurrence, but it's common enough.
>On Sep 29, 7:34�pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
>wrote:
>> <a...@seas7.e4word.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7n35c51j9o52fqnmo...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Lt. sentenced to 25 years in fatal beating
>>
>> > VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - A former Navy officer has been sentenced to 25
>> > years in prison for the fatal beating of his wife.Michael Lee Everage,
>> > a former lieutenant of Naval Special Warfare Group 2, was sentenced
>> > Monday for the Feb. 19, 2007, slaying of Robyn Everage in Virginia
>> > Beach.According to prosecutors, Robyn Everage was killed because her
>> > husband feared she would disclose his sexual relationship with another
>> > man, ending his naval career. Robyn Everage, who was seeking a
>> > divorce, also had discovered her husband was having an affair with a
>> > woman.Circuit Court Judge Stephen C. Mahan upheld a jury's December
>> > recommendation that the former Navy lieutenant serve 25 years for the
>> > killing. (end pasted article)
>>
>> > What a terrible thing thi s that this homosexual has brought upon the
>> > honor of our Armed Forces. I have never heard of a case in which a
>> > Navy Lt. beat his wife to death because she was a threat to his
>> > career. Considering the facts it seems that it could only happen to a
>> > homosexual and further considering that the DADT law is not likely to
>> > be repealed it will remain an ever present danger in the Naval
>> > Service. Homosexuals, who, by the way are not needed in the military
>> > should show their patriotism by avoiding military service and thus
>> > saving many head and heart aches in the Armed Forces. Do your country
>> > a favor boys and girls such as you be, stop harassing and haranguing
>> > the military, their job is tough enough as it is with out you going
>> > out of your way to make life tougher for them.
>>
>> Excuse me, but the above you posted would indicate that the guy was BISEXUAL
>> not Gay.
>>
>> Why would a Gay man be having an affair with a woman?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>You're looking for logic where obviously none exists.
There never is among homosexuals. Where there they would recognize how
utterly disgusting it is and wouldn't have sex with other men.
>It depends. The policy is not universal for spouses, or at least
>wasn't when I was in. It was typically left up to the base
>commander. The spouse is always investigated, usually by both the NIS
>and the FBI, and can be "cleared", but the issuance of an actual
>clearance depends on the policy of the BC. You are right that a
>failure to be cleared can result in the denial/loss of the soldier/
>sailor's clearance, and threaten the soldier/sailor's career.
It depends on his career field.
>On Oct 1, 5:08�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:33:28 GMT, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >And, if you are a Christian, Jesus sat down with prostitutes, lepers
>> >and even TAX COLLECTORS..
>>
>> Did He sit down with Faggots? �Nope...
>>
>
>
>Well, he hung out with 12 men and never dated. He may well have sat
>down with a lot of gay men.
How humorous it is when homosexuals attempt to insult by calling some
one a homosexual. Do you view it as being akin to a black man calling
another of his race a nigga"?
>Sid9 inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
__
Religious people have confirmed that God does not believe in atheist, therefore, atheists do not exist
LOL! Well, it's obvious that following a conversation is not among
your strongest talents.
True, I was assuming a career field that required a higher level
security clearance.
Logic is not your strong suit, is it? I'm not homosexual, and what I
said wasn't an insult. I didn't call anyone gay, I said what is in
evidence. The hung out with 12 men and never dated. Draw your own
conclusions.
Which is why life insurance may not be the best idea. :D
> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:06:39 GMT, "RamRod Sword of Baal"
Must we constantly point out that what goes on between 2 consenting
people is none of the business of semiliterate redneck fundies?