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The Truth about David Griffin's Golden Dawn

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griff...@rocketmail.com

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Jan 17, 2009, 11:02:08 PM1/17/09
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Check out the following link to see through all of the smoke and
mirrors of Griffin's alleged "linage" and his "Third Order"! The truth
in an intellectually sound format is right here:

http://www.geocities.com/griff...@rocketmail.com

Check it out before you sign up and spend your hard earned money!!!

The Griffinator!!!

Frater DLM

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Jan 20, 2009, 7:29:48 PM1/20/09
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On 18 Jan., 05:02, griffina...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> Check out the following link to see through all of the smoke and
> mirrors of Griffin's alleged "linage" and his "Third Order"! The truth
> in an intellectually sound format is right here:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/griffina...@rocketmail.com

>
> Check it out before you sign up and spend your hard earned money!!!
>
> The Griffinator!!!


I believe that the above linked website defaming our order was
published by Robert Zink and the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn.
All of the allegations made on the website are completely silly. The
allegation that the European headquartered, Hermetic Order of the
Golden Dawn® has no active temples is particularly funny. I had a
good
laugh about this one in particular, since I personally know ALL of
our
other Hierophants around the world, including in the USA. Also, I am
presently the Hierophant of our traditional, physical temple in
Germany, a temple that is fully chartered and licensed since 2003,
where we practice only traditional, TRUE GOLDEN DAWN
INITIATION, as in the rest of in our international network of
physical
temples. Our temple can proudly look back on a history of six years,
regularly initiating students from countries such as Ireland,
Belgium,
and even South Africa.

We do NOT practice bogus and dangerous "Astral Initiation" like
Robert
Zink's Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn does. Unlike them, we
REQIURE
all candidates to come to one of our PHYSICAL temples for
initiation,
as has been tradition in the Golden Dawn for 120 years. We condemn
as
fraudulent the untraditional, Astral Initiation and Self Initiation
scams being foisted to an unsuspecting public by Robert Zink's
Esoteric Order of the Golden and other groups.

The only thing true in the anonymously published website attacking
our
order is that we do indeed follow tradition and unlike Robert Zink's
Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn, we do NOT advertise the names and
locations of our temples.

The publishers of the defamatory website are obviously trying to
create public confusion with propaganda, due to the fact that here
in
the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn®, we do allow students to
STUDY
at a distance.

Speaking of which, I am pleased to announce that our program for
distance students in German language will go on-line by January 31,
2009!

VH Frater DLM,
Hierophant of the Temple in an Undisclosed City in Germany
Imperator, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® for German Speaking
Countries

http://www.golden-dawn.com/de/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=354

richard...@yahoo.com

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Jan 22, 2009, 2:57:58 PM1/22/09
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On Jan 17, 8:02 pm, griffina...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> Check out the following link to see through all of the smoke and
> mirrors of Griffin's alleged "linage" and his "Third Order"! The truth
> in an intellectually sound format is right here:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/griffina...@rocketmail.com

>
> Check it out before you sign up and spend your hard earned money!!!
>
> The Griffinator!!!

The Golden Dawn Flame Wars
by Richard Townhill
1/22/08

(For a complete version of this article, please visit my website at:
http://www.geocities.com/richardtownhill/)

Recent days have seen a renewal of the ongoing Golden Dawn Flamewars
on alt.magick with the publication of two "anonymous defamation
websites", one attacking Chic and Tabatha Cicero of the Hermetic Order
of the Golden Dawn, Inc® at:
http://www.geocities.com/tabbycicero2/

This first site requires little analysis as it is an obvious attempt
merely to defame and degrade posing as an ad by Tabatha Cicero for
prostitution to raise money for the Golden Dawn Legal Fund.

and the other one attacking David Griffin and Jean Pascal Ruggiu,
leaders of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® at:
http://www.geocities.com/griff...@rocketmail.com/

This one is more representative of the sort of anonymous attack site
we have been observing for decades now.

I am not a member of any Golden Dawn order, but have been following
the Golden Dawn flamewars closely for years. I will attempt to cut
through the rhetoric and hype by the various factions and present an
account of both sides of the discussion, as well as my objective
conclusions upon weighing the available information.


To begin with, this is a decades old flame war. For a history of the
Golden Dawn flame wars, see Mara Bellings excellent post at:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/msg/b63cd4ccce70f276?&q=marabelings

I must unfortunately point out that there is one person in the Golden
Dawn Community has been linked directly to publishing anonymous
defamation websites, using them as a negative marketing tool:

ROBERT ANTHONY ZINK, leader of the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn.

Robert Zink was identified as linked to the negative websites when he
slipped up and was caught advertising one such negative attack website
on his Golden Dawn Blog entry dated Saturday, February 12, 2005 in a
post linking to a defamation site attacking a leader of the Golden
Dawn community.

Once it became apparent that this blog entry directly linked Robert
Zink the publication of the anonymous defamation websites plaguing the
Golden Dawn Community, Mr. Zink removed the entry in what to me seems
like an attempt to cover up his tracks. Before the blog was sanitized,
however many people (including myself) downloaded the entry. Here is
one copy where you can read the original entry:
http://www.geocities.com/razzledazzle22227/zinklinkedtoanondefamation.pdf
Note that the anonymous defamation site that Robert Zink was caught
publicizing was then located at: http://hogd666.50megs.com/


Who is Robert Zink anyway?

Robert Zink claims to have 30 years experience with the Golden Dawn.
According to his ex-wife, Sonya Niemann Zink, however, the two of them
decided to start a Golden Dawn order when Robert bought Israel
Regardie's books in 1991. According to Sonya Neiman Zink, neither of
them were ever initiated into the Golden Dawn, but founded the order
using a Oija Board with Zink chanelling an entity he calls X. Robert
Zink then invented something he calls "Astral Initiation" where a
candidate meditates while a ritual happens for a mass of students on
the other end of the world. This has no root at all in Golden Dawn
tradition.

Zink originally called his order the Eternal Golden Dawn, then the
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn International, then Hermetic Order
of the Morning Star, and today the Hermetic Order of the Morning Star,
dba the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn.

Robert Zink operates a marketing business from which he attempts to
sell seminars, CDs, and New Age trinkets from the following websites:

www.robertzink.com
theguarantee.info
www.ruachhealing.com
www.thepowerofangels.com

Regarding the new anonymous defamation websites from last few days,
logic dictates that the group with most to gain by defaming both the
Ciceros and Griffin is Robert Zink's Esoteric Order of the Golden
Dawn. From where I sit, it looks like Zink and his Esoteric Golden
Dawn are up to their old tricks again.

So, what is this flamewar all about anyway?

The real root of the problem appears to be a dispute about Golden Dawn
initiation, as follows:

a) David Griffin and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn® argue that
traditional Golden Dawn Initiation in physical temples is important
and should not be abandoned.

b) Chic Cicero argues that traditional Golden Dawn initiation in
physical temples is not necessary and can be replaced by "Self-
Initiation" , guided meditation as is taught in Cicero's "Self-
Initiation" book. It is interesting that Chic Cicero admits that he is
only self-initiated himself. See:
http://www.geocities.com/razzledazzle22228/ciceroregardieinitiation.pdf

c) Robert Zink also argues that traditional Golden Dawn initiation in
phyiscal temples is not necessary and has replaced it with "Astral
Initiation" also called "Long Distance Initiation" where people are
told to meditate while a ritual happens on the other side of the
world.

So how did the flamewar get started?

1) The flames really started getting hot when Robert Zink published
arrest documents from Columbus Georgia, showing that Cicero has a
history of arrest for domestic violence and on weapons charges. He
also alleges that Cicero once owned a strip club and was dishonorably
discharged from the Army on violence charges. The arrest documents,
strip club business license and discharge deposition may be viewed
here:
http://www.geocities.com/razzledazzle22226/CriminalCicero.pdf

2) Chic Cicero responded by revealing that Robert Zink is a known
pedophile and that Robert Zink is guilty of statutorily raping Rafaela
Pulera, the underaged 15 year old daughter of one of one of Zink's
Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn members.
a) Robert Zink responded by denying these serious allegations.
b) Chic Cicero then responded by publishing the following post from
the underaged victim's mother, Rita Pulera:
Posted by Rita, Raphaelas Mom
Date Time: 2002.07.28 03:51
RE: PDR, FDA Unfairly Slandered
>Hello, Catherine (Campbell, former EOGD Chief):
>Its been awhile, hasnt it? I am happy to hear that Raphaela
>is doing so well. I wouldnt know. I was hoping all of you would
>leave Raphaela out of it. But you havent. How dare you! Raphaela
>was only 16 when her relationship with Robert began. Let me set
>that straight. And if you want to contest her mother, go right ahead.
> I did not give Robert any consent to sleep with my daughter,
>he just took it on himself.
>Raphaela, I am sorry, I have to do this now.
>You see, Catherine, Robert did a Bowl of Desire on Raphaela so he could take her
>-- she was still attending Rosary High School. So it was not okay. She had to drop
>out of high school because of the pregnancy, and to this day has never been allowed
>to finish her schooling. Why dont you have some shred of decency and leave my
>daughter and her son out of it? The reason I never pressed charges was to
>protect my daughter, my grandson and myself from the threats. Please take this
>conversation offline now. If you want to email me let me know.
>Rita

c) Robert Zink followed up by attacking the mother, attempting to
undermine her credibility
d) The Mother then, in indignation, caused the birth certificate of
the illegitimate child that Zink sired on the victim, who was only 16
at the time he abused her and later dropped our of St. Mary's high
school. The birth certificate can be viewed here:
http://www.geocities.com/razzledazzle22229/Heru_BirthCert.jpg

These flame wars have been flaring up periodically here on alt.magick
ever since and are routinely accompanied by the promotion of extremely
unethical "anonymous attack websites". For example, one such website
included the private name and address of David Griffin's parents,
advertising their home as a house of prostitution. Just recently,
another one appeared, publishing the private address and phone number
of Chic and Tabatha Cicero and posing as an ad by Tabatha Cicero for
prostitution with Chic Cicero as here pimp.

Further evidence of Robert Zink's guilt in the defamation of leaders
of other Golden Dawn orders is easily found on Robert Zink's EOGD
forum itself at:
Where a search of forum archives for the search term "Griffin" yields
1122 defamatory posts attacking David Griffin and the Hermetic Order
of the Golden Dawn.

Conclusion: Maybe I could understand a post or two, but over a
thousand? This seems to me clear and compelling evidence of well of an
ongoing, well orchestrated defamation campaign of leaders of other
orders being waged by Robert Zink and his Esoteric Order of the Golden
Dawn. Combine this with the fact that Mr. Zink has been positively
connected with at least one anonomous defamation website and the
evidence becomes overwhelming.

So is there any other evidence that Robert Zink and his EOGD are also
behind these latest defamatory websites? To begin with, the new site
attacking Griffin attacks Griffin's views that teachings on sacred
sexuality are part of core Golden Dawn teachings.

Note that Robert Zink has more of a prudish, fundamentalist Christian
slant in his EOGD, and Zink has attacked Griffin's views on sacred
sexuality many times bnefore including on Zink's own website.

Conclusion: Since Robert Zink is the ONLY person who has done this,
the smoking gun for the new anonymous defamatioin websites seems clear
enough to me.

Here are both sides of the sexuality discussion, in Griffin and Zink's
own words:
Robert Zink wrote on the EOGD website
http://www.esotericgoldendawn.com/tradition_sexmagic.htm
David Griffin replied on the HOGD website
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=101

Let us examine both sides of the discussion on the other issues
raised:

First off, the new anon site gives what seems to me to be biased
biographical information about two HOGD leaders, David Griffin and
Jean-Pascal Ruggiu
Here is a very different biography of David Griffin:
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=173
Here is a very different biography of Jean-Pascal Ruggiu
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=172

The new defamation website claims:
"Griffin has no lineage"
Robert Zink has made this allegation many times in the past on his
EOGD website as well. However, he offers no substantiation
On the other hand, David Griffin and the Hermetic Order of the Golden
Dawn® have thoroughly documented their various lineages at:
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=284
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=96

The attack website, again like Robert Zink does on his own site, then
goes on to claim that David Griffin was expelled from Chic Cicero's
order. On the other side of the discussion, it is comon knowledge in
the esoteric community that David Griffin was never a member Chic
Cicero's temple, but of Cris Monnatre's temple, and that what really
happenned was a schism between Cicero and Monnastre commonly called
the "The Golden Dawn Pizza Schism of 1994". Apparently, Cicero had a
loud, angry, public outburst at Griffin over ordering pizza, screaming
"if you don't want pepperoni pizza then get the hell out of here."
Monnastre then sternly admonished Cicero, `Chic Cicero, don't
embarrass me like that in front of my temple members. Monnastre leftin
a huff and Cicero lied to his order that she "resigned". Griffin sided
with Monnastre in the ensuing schsim and hired Stuart MacKenzie, who
successfully represented the OTO against Marcello Motta and reached a
settlement agreement with Cicero. Here is a post documenting the other
side of the Golden Dawn Pizza Schism:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldendawnmeetingplace/message/1511

My conclusion: This sounds like flamewar propaganda to me.

The attack website then goes on to allege: Griffin's Hermetic Order of
the Golden Dawn has no temples.
Note that this is merely a declarative statement. There is no
substantiation of this at all. On the other hand, one of the
Hierophants of one of the Griffin's HOGD temples answered this
allegation today at:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/msg/00ef490849c3a97e
presenting soustantiating evidence of the existance of physical HOGD
temples. Also, read HOGD's own article on their temples:
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=331

The anonymous defamation website continues with the argument:
Since Griffin was initiated by Cicero (an inaccurate statement to
begin with, see above) and Cicero was initiated by Regardie, then
Griffin is claiming lineage by Regardie.

First off, there no mention whatsoever of any sort of Regardie
lineage on Griffin's lineage page even though it does go into great
detail, but there they even debunk the myth of a Regardie lineage at:
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=70#22

Finally, the defamation website states that Griffin does not mention
any lineage through Cicero and that the HOGD®'s attorney Jorge Hevia
has been attacking everyone legally. Actually, publically available
court documents reveal the contrary. Here they are:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5562589/The-Hermetic-Order-of-the-Golden-Dawn-Inc-v-Griffin-Settlement-Agreement

1) Legal Agression: It was Chic Cicero's order that sued Griffin and
attempted to prevent that order from calling itself Golden Dawn.
2) The terms of the settlement agreement prohibit Griffin and Cicero
from even mentioning one another.

Conclusion: The items about Legal Agression and not Griffin's
mentioning any lineage from Cicero are also clearly mere propaganda.

The negative website also is highly critical of David Griffin's
"Ritual Magic Manual" and links to Aaron Leitsch's negative review of
this book located at:
http://kheph777.tripod.com/rev_rmm.html
On the other side of this story, HOGD long ago published a refutation
by David Griffin of this clearly politically motivated review at:
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=420

Conclusion: A negative review written by an officer of a competing
order can not be considered credible nor can its inclusion on the
attack website be considered as anything other than just more flamewar
propaganda.

Overall conclusion: All appearances indicate that the new negative
websites attacking Chic Cicero and David Griffin are the handiwork of
Robert Zink and the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn, which appear to
be waging Golden Dawn flamewar for propaganda and marketing purposes
against both David Griffin and Chic Cicero.

Finally, the negative website, upon careful examination, appears to
have little or no credibility.

- Richard Townhill, Impartial Observer of the Golden Dawn Flame Wars.

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