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nic...@hushmail.com

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May 30, 2008, 3:33:44 PM5/30/08
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From:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=28103
[much snippage]
May 27, 2008
"Solar activity was at very low levels. The visible disk was spotless."

Roger Coppock

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May 30, 2008, 3:45:54 PM5/30/08
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This happens roughly every 11 years and, when
compared to CO2 concentrations has little to
do with current global warming.

CO2 or Sunspots: Statistical Correlation Chooses

Statistical correlation is a powerful technique with
very many uses. It produces "R squared" a measure of
whether two series of measures trend together.

(Those who are new to statistical correlation and
"R squared" will find a tutorial on the subject here:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Correlation.html

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CorrelationCoefficient.html

Item 20 in the above shows R squared for several graphed
relationships.)

When applied to a time series of global mean surface
temperatures and data from prospective global warming
causes covering the same time period, correlation can
help locate the cause of the observed global warming.
Low "R squared" values, those near zero, can, by
themselves, totally rule out a prospective cause.
High "R squared" values indicate that a prospective
cause is very likely, but do not, by themselves,
'prove' something caused the warming. (Experimental
science rarely 'proves' something like a mathematical
proof does.)


Below are directly observed data for global mean surface
temperature, CO2 concentration, and sunspots for the last
50 years. This is as long as the longest directly
observed record of atmospheric CO2 concentration.

The R^2 value for the correlation of CO2 and planetary
surface temperature is 0.78. The simple rising
line showing heating for increasing CO2 explains a
lot of the variance in the global mean temperature.
The relationship between CO2 and global temperature
is very strong and the anthropogenic greenhouse gas
radiative forcing theory is well supported by these
data.

The R^2 value for sunspots and and planetary
surface temperature is very near zero. These data
clearly do not support any relationship between
sunspot numbers and global mean surface temperature
over the last 50 years. It is very unlikely that
sunspots have anything to do with the current
global warming.

This test applies very easily to all other claims for
global warming causes. It will quickly separate the
wheat from the chaff.


-.-. --.- Roger Coppock

=-=-=-=-=-=-= The Data =-=-=-=-=-=-=
The global mean surface "Temp"erature data are the GISS
adjusted J-D yearly land and sea average, available from
NASA at:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt


The "CO2" data are the yearly averages of the monthly data
from the Keeling curve measured at Mauna Loa, available at:

ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt


"Sunspots" are the yearly averages of the monthly means
in the NOAA NGDC "MONTHLY" file. They are available at
the FTP site accessed through this web page:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/SSN/ssn.html


Year Temp CO2 Sunspots
1958 14.08 315.33 184.5917
1959 14.06 315.98 158.75
1960 13.99 316.91 112.275
1961 14.08 317.65 53.8833
1962 14.04 318.46 37.6
1963 14.08 318.99 27.8917
1964 13.79 319.20 10.2
1965 13.89 320.03 15.0583
1966 13.97 321.37 46.875
1967 14.00 322.18 93.6667
1968 13.96 323.05 105.8917
1969 14.08 324.62 105.5583
1970 14.03 325.68 104.6917
1971 13.90 326.32 66.65
1972 14.00 327.46 68.9333
1973 14.14 329.68 38.15
1974 13.92 330.17 34.4083
1975 13.95 331.14 15.4583
1976 13.84 332.06 12.55
1977 14.13 333.78 27.4833
1978 14.02 335.40 92.6583
1979 14.09 336.78 155.275
1980 14.18 338.70 154.65
1981 14.27 340.11 140.45
1982 14.05 340.98 116.2917
1983 14.26 342.84 66.6333
1984 14.09 344.20 45.85
1985 14.06 345.87 17.9417
1986 14.13 347.19 13.4
1987 14.27 348.98 29.225
1988 14.31 351.45 100
1989 14.19 352.89 157.7917
1990 14.38 354.16 142.2917
1991 14.35 355.48 145.775
1992 14.12 356.27 94.4833
1993 14.14 356.96 54.7333
1994 14.24 358.63 29.8667
1995 14.38 360.63 17.5
1996 14.30 362.37 8.625
1997 14.40 363.47 21.4833
1998 14.57 366.50 64.2083
1999 14.33 368.14 93.175
2000 14.33 369.41 119.5333
2001 14.48 371.07 110.925
2002 14.56 373.16 104.0917
2003 14.55 375.80 63.5667
2004 14.49 377.55 40.4417
2005 14.62 379.75 29.7833
2006 14.54 381.85 15.1833
2007 14.57 383.72 7.5417

=-=-=-=-=-=-= "R" Program Outputs =-=-=-=-=-=-=
The following are outputs of the "R" statistical program:
For information on "R," please see:

http://www.r-project.org/

--------

Call:
lm(formula = Temp ~ CO2, data = aframe)

Residuals:
Min 1Q Median 3Q Max
-0.2316612 -0.0805322 0.0185249 0.0763159 0.1798386

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
(Intercept) 1.10008e+01 2.41721e-01 45.5103 < 2.22e-16 ***
CO2 9.24797e-03 7.01018e-04 13.1922 < 2.22e-16 ***
---
Signif. codes: 0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1

Residual standard error: 0.101321 on 48 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.783817, Adjusted R-squared: 0.779313
F-statistic: 174.034 on 1 and 48 DF, p-value: < 2.220e-16

--------

Call:
lm(formula = Temp ~ Sunspots, data = aframe)

Residuals:
Min 1Q Median 3Q Max
-0.3909495 -0.1523184 -0.0514594 0.1445919 0.4380756

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
(Intercept) 1.41804e+01 5.39054e-02 263.06149 < 2e-16 ***
Sunspots 4.97803e-05 6.18766e-04 0.08045 0.93621
---
Signif. codes: 0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1

Residual standard error: 0.217902 on 48 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.000134823, Adjusted R-squared: -0.0206957
F-statistic: 0.00647235 on 1 and 48 DF, p-value: 0.936213

nic...@hushmail.com

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May 30, 2008, 4:21:49 PM5/30/08
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On May 30, 12:45 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 12:33 pm, nico...@hushmail.com wrote:
>
> > From:http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=28103
> > [much snippage]
> > May 27, 2008
> > "Solar activity was at very low levels. The visible disk was spotless."
>
> This happens roughly every 11 years and,

WRONG, fuckhead. It happens no more often than every 300 years. DO YOU
HOMEWORK. Check the historical record for sunspot activity.

IF YOU DON"T STOP POSTING RUBBISH, I WILL PERSONALLY KILL YOU. JUST
BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN SAN DIEGO GIVES YOU NO RIGHT TO POST LIES.

Richard Henry

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May 30, 2008, 4:25:33 PM5/30/08
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Tunderbar

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May 30, 2008, 4:49:04 PM5/30/08
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Oh, give it up already. The agw movement is done. AGW is a fraud and
so are you.

Uncle Al

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May 30, 2008, 5:05:29 PM5/30/08
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As with all government programs[ implementation vs. perceived reality,
Global Warming will be an ice age. No sunspots --> Maunder Minimum.
Jamestown, VA will be freezing to -40 each winter, again. Points
north will freeze harder. Gonna burn algae, git?

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/arith.htm

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com

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May 30, 2008, 5:35:04 PM5/30/08
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We have roughly 300 years of sunspot data and there is currently
nothing terribly special about the start of cycle 24.

Weekly updates at http://www.arrl.org/ The K7RA Solar Update.


--
Jim Pennino

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chemist

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May 30, 2008, 5:49:18 PM5/30/08
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Roger You are Lying Marxist

Bill Ward

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May 30, 2008, 5:55:14 PM5/30/08
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I hope you realize posting a threat like that could easily get you TOSed,
or worse. Freedom of speech applies to all, even Coppock.

Robert J. Kolker

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May 30, 2008, 6:03:45 PM5/30/08
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nic...@hushmail.com wrote:

Being cold is not necessarily being doomed. The human race survived the
last Ice Age.

Bob Kolker

Whata Fool

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May 30, 2008, 9:32:54 PM5/30/08
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Where, in Africa?

Poetic Justice

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May 30, 2008, 8:46:20 PM5/30/08
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We were doomed from day one, just as the day your born you're doomed to
death.

Al Bedo

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May 31, 2008, 12:25:59 AM5/31/08
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Whata Fool wrote:

>> Being cold is not necessarily being doomed. The human race survived the
>> last Ice Age.

But civilization dawned during the Holocene Climatic Optimum when
it was warmer than modern times.

V-for-Vendicar

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May 31, 2008, 2:03:02 AM5/31/08
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<nic...@hushmail.com> wrote

> "Solar activity was at very low levels. The visible disk was spotless."

Nothing special when the sun is at it's solar minimum, as it is now.


MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN


V-for-Vendicar

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May 31, 2008, 2:04:39 AM5/31/08
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> > "Solar activity was at very low levels. The visible disk was spotless."
>
> This happens roughly every 11 years and,


<nic...@hushmail.com> wrote


> WRONG, fuckhead. It happens no more often than every 300 years. DO YOU
> HOMEWORK. Check the historical record for sunspot activity.

MMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN

The solar cycle is 11.x years long, and at minimum the sunspot count is
typically ZERO.

V-for-Vendicar

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"Tunderbar" <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote

> Oh, give it up already. The agw movement is done. AGW is a fraud and
> so are you.

So says the Voice of Libertarian Ignorance and Delusion.

Meanwhile..... Back here in the reality based community.

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs


V-for-Vendicar

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"Whata Fool" <wh...@fool.ami> wrote
> Where, in Africa?

And North America.

MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN


V-for-Vendicar

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<nic...@hushmail.com> wrote

> IF YOU DON"T STOP POSTING RUBBISH, I WILL PERSONALLY KILL YOU. JUST
> BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN SAN DIEGO GIVES YOU NO RIGHT TO POST LIES.

This is a threat to commit murder.

Have the appropriate authorities been contacted?

V-for-Vendicar

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"chemist" <tom-b...@ntlworld.com> wrote

> Roger You are Lying Marxist

Says the non-"chemist" who hasn't graduated from grade school yet.

d....@hotmail.com

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On May 30, 11:05 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> <nico...@hushmail.com> wrote

God knows all about this monster.

nico...@hushmail.com

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May 31, 2008, 3:14:38 PM5/31/08
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And who might you be, God?

kiloVolts

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May 31, 2008, 3:18:44 PM5/31/08
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The important question, fuckhead is: Does God know about, 'FUCK WE'RE
DOOMED'

hanson

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May 31, 2008, 3:57:17 PM5/31/08
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Gauche & loud communist, US-expatriate & pauper Scott Nudds
aka "VD-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com>
aka VD-Scotty, the GLOBAL COOLING DENIALIST, with his red
pants frozen in snow and ice...ahaha... who had bragged that he
**never** drove & much less ever owned an automobile, Scuttled
his Nutts, and doled out the verdicts of his own pinko-green justice:
>
<nic...@hushmail.com> wrote
IF YOU [Roger] DON"T STOP POSTING RUBBISH, [Roger Coppock
who has pus in his brain, Roger said ] I WILL PERSONALLY KILL

YOU. JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN SAN DIEGO GIVES YOU NO
RIGHT TO POST LIES.
>
VD-Scotty wrote:
This is a threat to commit murder.
Have the appropriate authorities been contacted?
>
hanson wrote:
ahahaha... so, VD Scotty, how about YOUR own threats to
to commit murder on Sen. Inhofe...
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/f1147f7dd08c3e63>
wherein you say:
::VD:: Sen. Inhofe will be among the first to be executed.
::VD:: I'll even volunteer to be the hangman
::VD:: [and] the lists that have been compiled are long.
>
Different strokes for different folks in/from your RBC, your
Reborn-Communist-Cult, huh?... ahahahaha... ahahaha...

PS:
More fun in VD-Scotty's world, where he Scuttles his Nutts:
and here, where VD-Scotty blowing dogs:
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/c279ff07079e8f16>
Wherein Scott Nudds aka VD-for-Vendicar scuttled his Nutts.... ahahaha..
<http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.libertarian/msg/b767cbbb...>
Pauper VD Scotty and his lack of money... ahahaha...
<http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.libertarian/msg/af3f9cc5...>
VD Scotty on governance... AHAHAHAHA....
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/cde0da4d1f38222d>
and....
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/0d934ebcc7b3fd1f>
wherein she says: --- Dear Vendicar ----,
... you creamed in your pants when I took my bra off and then the
other guys laughed at you and called you "Scuttle Nutts". So, See,
Short-dick/Quick-cumers like you are not best sellers in the adult
movie biz. I hope you'll understand that. Biz is biz. I'm sorry, dear.
With love, --- Naomi Goldstein-Goldman

Google/groups --[ author:han...@quick.net Nudds ]--
ENJOY! ... Great fun!... ahahaha.... ahahahanson

V-for-Vendicar

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May 31, 2008, 9:59:13 PM5/31/08
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> <nico...@hushmail.com> wrote
> > IF YOU DON"T STOP POSTING RUBBISH, I WILL PERSONALLY KILL YOU. JUST
> > BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN SAN DIEGO GIVES YOU NO RIGHT TO POST LIES.

"V-for-Vendicar" <Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> This is a threat to commit murder.
>
> Have the appropriate authorities been contacted?

<d....@hotmail.com> wrote


> God knows all about this monster.

That is unfortunate because God is a fiction.

Seriously.. Have the appropriate authorities been contacted?

V-for-Vendicar

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"kiloVolts" <spam...@nospam.com> wrote

> The important question, fuckhead is: Does God know about, 'FUCK WE'RE
> DOOMED'

Which God? There are so many to choose from.

V-for-Vendicar

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote

> Gauche & loud communist, US-expatriate & pauper Scott Nudds
> aka "VD-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com>
> aka VD-Scotty, the GLOBAL COOLING DENIALIST, with his red
> pants frozen in snow and ice...ahaha... who had bragged that he
> **never** drove & much less ever owned an automobile, Scuttled
> his Nutts, and doled out the verdicts of his own pinko-green justice:

Another zero on the content scale from Hanson.

Meanwhile back here in the reality based community...

hanson

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"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:Qqn0k.382$Ec....@read2.cgocable.net...

Another zero on the content scale from Hanson.
Meanwhile back here in the reality based community...
here the global average temperature is up, Up, UP.
>
hanson wrote:
... ahahaha.. Nahh, VD Scotty, you just wanted to cover
up your own sins and crimes with your invented and
fully concoted T-gag chart which is proselytized by your
"reality based community", your RBC, the ReBorn Commies...
ahaha... Here is your real RBC agenda again:
>
**************** Here it is ******************

>
Gauche & loud communist, US-expatriate & pauper Scott Nudds
aka "VD-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com>
aka VD-Scotty, the GLOBAL COOLING DENIALIST, with his red
pants frozen in snow and ice...ahaha... who had bragged that he
**never** drove & much less ever owned an automobile, Scuttled
his Nutts, and doled out the verdicts of his own pinko-green justice:
>
<nic...@hushmail.com> wrote to Roger

V-for-Vendicar

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote Absolutely Nothing.

Meanwhile back here in the Reality based community...

hanson

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"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:onH0k.456$Ec....@read2.cgocable.net...
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/6aba4ec0b34ceb25
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/d032a3e6a8a8cd09

V-for-Vendicar

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hanson

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"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
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> Meanwhile back here in the Reality based community...
>
... these important events are happening:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/6aba4ec0b34ceb25
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/d032a3e6a8a8cd09

V-for-Vendicar

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote Absolutely nothing

Meanwhile back here in the Reality based community...

View with mono spaced font.

Excellent Correlation between Atmospheric CO2 concentration and
Global Average temperature. 1958 -> 2007
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r| o o *
e|* ** * o o * *
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| o*o*
| ooo *
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|
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+---------------------------CO2->----------------------------------------
* = Data
0 = Computed Regression


hanson

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pants frozen in snow and ice...ahaha... who had bragged that he
**never** drove & much less ever owned an automobile, Scuttled
his Nutts, and said: ....Meanwhile back here in the Reality based
community aka RBC, the ReBorn Communists...

V-for-Vendicar

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