On Aug 16, 6:23 pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> > Please advise, what was Nina's last name, so that I can address card?- > You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
Ok, so what was Marta's last name? -- |O| Be well. Travel with a light heart. - Goldman 3:16
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On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed away about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for copies of Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both Nena and Marta?
KIV11 wrote: > On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote: >> You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her >> friends.
> Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed away > about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for copies of > Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
> Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was > really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both > Nena and Marta?
Gosh, George, that would be cynical.
Here are the headers from Nena's Friend:
Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giga news.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!64.59.134.4.MISMATCH!pd 7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7urf2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 70.64.75.13 From: Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.freemasonry Subject: Re: News about Nena References: <RW8wi.58517$fJ5.16374@pd7urf1no> <1187098723.523855.217...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187098723.523855.217570@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: <Cwrwi.60895$rX4.21760@pd7urf2no> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:11:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7urf2no 1187136674 24.66.94.143 (Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:11:14 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:11:14 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential InternetHere are the headers from Nena back in July:Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserv er.com!in01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.c a!pd7urf2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 70.64.64.11 From: Nena <N...@home.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.freemasonry Subject: Re: I am still alive References: <Fwwii.82052$1i1.7130@pd7urf3no> <1183910498.841401.169...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <q89ki.97844$xq1.74088@pd7urf1no> <1184000388.900315.15...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184000388.900315.15...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Message-ID: <snNki.103861$NV3.54773@pd7urf2no> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:14:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: ab...@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7urf2no 1184080472 24.66.94.143 (Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:14:32 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:14:32 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential InternetThey're obviously next-door neighbors, and not the same person at all.-- Tom Accuostihttp://masonictao.blogspot.comExalted Keeper of the Secrets of MasonariansimGrand Sovereign Pontiff and Secret ExposuerAmbassador to Zeta-ReticulaCrop Circle Planning & Zoning CommissionerAluminum Foil Beanie Fitting and Training ConsultantTeam Osiris Obelisk Siting and SurveyingManager, Dulces/Denver Airport Massage & Day SpaCydonia Vacation Resort ConciergeP.M., Friendship #33.3 AM&FMArea 51, Atlantis
On Aug 17, 8:09 am, KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> > You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
> Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed away > about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for copies of > Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
> Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was > really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both > Nena and Marta?
Yea, George. Like Tom said, don't be so cynical. Marta died, without an obituary or any sort of notice anywhere. We know it's true because Nena told us that it happened. Gee, now Nena is dead, and Nena's friend is so distraught and here you are casting doubt on his veracity.
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> On Aug 17, 8:09 am, KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
>> > You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
>> Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed away >> about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for copies of >> Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
>> Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was >> really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both >> Nena and Marta?
> Yea, George. Like Tom said, don't be so cynical. Marta died, without > an obituary or any sort of notice anywhere. We know it's true because > Nena told us that it happened.
Right. If you can't trust anonymous strangers on the internet who seem to be posting from the same computer as not one, but *two* deceased doctors, then who can you trust?
> Gee, now Nena is dead, and Nena's friend is so distraught and here you > are casting doubt on his veracity.
I had some things cast on my veracity once. The doctor gave me some pills and it took weeks to clear up.
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> >> > You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
> >> Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed > >> away about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for > >> copies of Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
> >> Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena > >> was really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, > >> aren't both Nena and Marta?
> > Yea, George. Like Tom said, don't be so cynical. Marta died, > > without an obituary or any sort of notice anywhere. We know it's > > true because Nena told us that it happened.
> Right. If you can't trust anonymous strangers on the internet who > seem to be posting from the same computer as not one, but *two* > deceased doctors, then who can you trust?
> > Gee, now Nena is dead, and Nena's friend is so distraught and > > here you are casting doubt on his veracity.
I guess where it says "In Memory of" on the card I'll put; "Marta/Nena/ Nena's Friend, etal", that should cover most of the bases. Now, how can I be sure that they guy at the funeral home will get the card to the correct family?
> On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote: >> You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends. > Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was > really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both > Nena and Marta?
Is she still playing the sickness/death card to try to get anyone to give her the attention she craves?
Isn't it about time for the Mickey/Soapy card again? Or another attempt at using the old "mysterious stranger/phone calls" card to get noticed?
[insert line about not playing with a full deck here]
BrG...@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 17, 8:09 am, KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Aug 16, 9:23?pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
>>>You may address it to Marta. That's how she was known to her friends.
>>Wait a minute, Nena told us that her good friend Marta passed away >>about a year ago. In fact, there were several requests for copies of >>Marta's obituary, which was never supplied.
>>Now, you arrive and tell us that Nena is deceased and that Nena was >>really Marta. So how do we know that you, Nena's friend, aren't both >>Nena and Marta?
> Yea, George. Like Tom said, don't be so cynical. Marta died, without > an obituary or any sort of notice anywhere. We know it's true because > Nena told us that it happened. > Gee, now Nena is dead, and Nena's friend is so distraught and here you > are casting doubt on his veracity.
> -- > |O| Be well. Travel with a light heart. - Goldman 3:16
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On Aug 20, 9:05 pm, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> The header is the same because this is Marta's computer. There is an > abutuary (for those who actually look) available in the StarPhoenix.
> This is the last post to this group.
Well, sir, thank you for filling us in.
Hear that everyone? Nina has passed on and her friend is finished posting here. Personally, I'll continue my respiratory functions unabated.
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On Aug 21, 12:05?am, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> The header is the same because this is Marta's computer. There is an > abutuary (for those who actually look) available in the StarPhoenix.
> This is the last post to this group.
Not to belabor the point, but in order to look up an obituary, you need a first and last name. You have not supplied that information and since you will no longer post to this group, it looks like we'll never get the information. Thanks for nothing.
On Aug 21, 12:03 pm, Larry The Mason from Holbrook
<larry.the.mason.from.holbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder why, if she is known to her friends as Marta, Nena's Friend > chose that particular nym.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
> I'm also curious what new nym will be chosen.
(S)he hasn't tried Irving yet...
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On Aug 21, 7:40 am, KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 12:05?am, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
> > The header is the same because this is Marta's computer. There is an > > abutuary (for those who actually look) available in the StarPhoenix.
> > This is the last post to this group.
> Not to belabor the point, but in order to look up an obituary, you > need a first and last name. You have not supplied that information and > since you will no longer post to this group, it looks like we'll never > get the information. Thanks for nothing.
I had a free moment, and searched their obits. For all obits published between 8/2 and 8/13, only one seems to fit:
MROZ -Marta born in Poland on January 1, 1942 passed away peacefully with her son at her side at Royal University Hospital on Thursday, August 2, 2007 due to complications after surgery. She is sorely missed by her friends and family. An informal memorial gathering will be held on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. at 1223 Main Street. Funeral arrangements C/O Martens Warman Funeral Home (306) 934-4888
The things that fit are that she died on 8/2 and that arrangements were made at Martens Warman. Also of note is that our Marta did say she was from Poland.
The things that don't fit are that our Marta told us her son died, IIRC, and Nena's Friend's post suggests her real name is Nena and not Marta.
There were other obits for 8/2, but they all referred to other funeral homes. There were no mentions of the name Nena.
Now, since our Marta is somewhat known for various attempts at deception, it is entirely possible that she submitted the obit herself to help substantiate her tall tales. However, the Nena's Friend entity does not seem to be just another nym change.
> The things that don't fit are that our Marta told us her son died, > IIRC, and Nena's Friend's post suggests her real name is Nena and not > Marta.
Nena, IIRC, is a Polish/Slavic term meaning something like the English "Nana", or "Granny". Also, most newspapers require a copy of the death certificate, and in Australia at least will only accept obituary notices from the funeral director. I would say this is genuine.
> There were other obits for 8/2, but they all referred to other funeral > homes. There were no mentions of the name Nena.
> Now, since our Marta is somewhat known for various attempts at > deception, it is entirely possible that she submitted the obit herself > to help substantiate her tall tales. However, the Nena's Friend > entity does not seem to be just another nym change.
> Time, I suppose, will tell.
- -- - -- Alex Fisher Lodge Caledonian No. 14 United Grand Lodge of Queensland
> On Aug 21, 7:40 am, KIV11 <KI...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 21, 12:05?am, Nena's Friend <NenasFri...@home.net> wrote:
>>> The header is the same because this is Marta's computer. There is >>> an abutuary (for those who actually look) available in the >>> StarPhoenix.
>>> This is the last post to this group.
>> Not to belabor the point, but in order to look up an obituary, you >> need a first and last name. You have not supplied that information >> and since you will no longer post to this group, it looks like we'll >> never get the information. Thanks for nothing.
> I had a free moment, and searched their obits. For all obits > published between 8/2 and 8/13, only one seems to fit:
> MROZ -Marta born in Poland on January 1, 1942 passed away peacefully > with her son at her side at Royal University Hospital on Thursday, > August 2, 2007 due to complications after surgery. She is sorely > missed by her friends and family. An informal memorial gathering will > be held on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. at 1223 Main Street. > Funeral arrangements C/O Martens Warman Funeral Home (306) 934-4888
> The things that fit are that she died on 8/2 and that arrangements > were made at Martens Warman. Also of note is that our Marta did say > she was from Poland.
> The things that don't fit are that our Marta told us her son died, > IIRC, and Nena's Friend's post suggests her real name is Nena and not > Marta.
> There were other obits for 8/2, but they all referred to other funeral > homes. There were no mentions of the name Nena.
> Now, since our Marta is somewhat known for various attempts at > deception, it is entirely possible that she submitted the obit herself > to help substantiate her tall tales. However, the Nena's Friend > entity does not seem to be just another nym change.
> Time, I suppose, will tell.
What? Are you suggesting that somebody has been lying?
Come on, Larry! If you can't trust anonymous, antagonistic strangers on the internet, then who *can* you trust?
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