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On 31/07/2011 10:03 PM, murphy wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers

NaN> Message-ID: <j15aqs$9lf$2...@dont-email.me>
NaN> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 04:42:04 +0000 (UTC)
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NaN> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q";
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NaN> Message-ID: <j15qj4$rsi$1...@dont-email.me>
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NaN> Message-ID: <j160qm$mta$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
NaN> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:57:25 -0400
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NaN> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:20:51 -0400
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What does any of that have to do with free newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Paolo AND Ray!

Who is "Paolo", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

murphy

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Sep 11, 2011, 10:58:25 PM9/11/11
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0n Mon, 1 Aug 2011 I [murphy] wrote in
<j16bcp$33t$1...@dont-email.me> showing electronic tracking of
Paul G Derbyshire's newest adventure into trolling AFN with:

> Message-ID: <j15aqs$9lf$2...@dont-email.me>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 04:42:04 +0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q";
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> Message-ID: <j15qj4$rsi$1...@dont-email.me>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:11:00 +0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q"
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> Message-ID: <j160qm$mta$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:57:25 -0400
> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
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> Message-ID: <j14v1i$3pv$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:20:51 -0400
> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
>
>Paolo AND Ray!

[update]

I subsequently wrote Wolfgang (wolf @eternal-september.org) and asked this
question -
"How do I ask why this poster is being
ignored, prompting a reply that makes sense?

The answer to which now leads to this post being made, despite some loose
(avoiding) exchanges (eMails) being made in denying Wolfgang the out
of "running from the problem".
The answer being -

"There is a server rule that automatically bans users who use more than
5 different nyms within 10 consecutive days.
Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? The user in question (as neither you nor
I know his real identity, the names don't matter) has so far managed to
avoid hitting this limit."

Now. there are a number of issues which could be addressed in that
statement, I point to what I see as the two prime issues, for Usenet and
for the perspective held by regulars who have contributed profusely to AFN in
years past, and, maybe see no reason not to continue despite the Noise from
vagrants/miscreants/trolls... and the clinically insane.

The two issues being:
1. The absurdity of such a policy
2. The Truth of "neither you nor I know his real identity"

Reversing the order - for clarity - I address "know" in setting an ambience of
candid veracity for this work (publication).

It would be to easy for those so inclined to look at the posts of
"Ray Banana" <rayban @banana.shacknet.nu> and think "Ray knows".
Equally for those following the bouncing ball(s) I have posted around
Derbyshire's activity in AFN (with links as provenance) it would be quite
reasonable for those enlightened gals 'n' guys to think "murphy/phlatArse
knows".
Not good enough people.
Wolfgang is using the legalese "know" not the anecdotal "know".
Simply put, Wolfgang is saying;
"put a document before me which identifies
Paul G Derbyshire as *any* of the posters you
claim him to be and I _may_ look at the activity.

So it is *all* of the arguments offered thusfar can be seen (as an excuse to do
nothing) as "armchair attorneys" and/or "Usenet vigilantes" posting _opinion_ on
Derbyshire's activity.
Despite the fact logs from <news.eternal-september.org> would easily
reveal the dynamics of the DNS range Derbyshire uses, despite the fact seven
clearly identifiable disconnected posters from five Countries (Ireland, Norway,
USA, Canada, Australia) have published the provenance over many years,
despite the fact Derbyshire himself has published his own "outing"
in MiD: <0941e52b-d50a-4bc8...@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>
http://preview.tinyurl.com/PGDerbyshireSpeaks
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&scoring=&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2011&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2011&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pgderb%40gmail.com&safe=off
- despite *all* that - there is no way Wolfgang can *know* until he himself
goes looking.
What is the degree of difficulty?
The information is "public domain", has been for some years.
And not 'hidden', at all.. as the "bricks and mortar" would easily be discovered
by the person holding the information of server access AND "six years as a NSP
Admin" - Wolfgang's own words.
Wolfgang himself will tell you there is nothing "illegal" (in any terms) in
searching out and publishing a person's Name and eMail address - read the
ES TOS for proof. So there is no legal impediment to searching.
So, what is the problem for Wolfgang in looking?
Laziness, with a hint of a fear from repercussions, all same what Neal Hubbard
[Cap'n Neal - Greg Hall (Squeaky] dished out in his tissy fits, when removed
from Wolfgang's server.
The latter is easily dealt with by an Administration, the former is incurable.
So it is I say I find it not acceptable (to me, personally) for NSP
Administrators to expect, as a default situation, that the members of NGs have
the responsibility of searching out and proving "know", when it is the NSP who
has the only legally accessible database which holds the proof a
vagrant/miscreant/troll is indeed ^whom^ the complainant points to.
Worse, refusing to act until "know" is proved is just not good enough.
The activity _should be_ ample evidence to prompt the Administrator to
contact the subscriber and warn the person.

Wolfgang refuses to do this simple step which would have an immediate effect.
His reasoning, so he says, is that such a slap would create a "Hannibal Lector"
type Derbyshire.
Wolfgang is way too late in using that excuse, Derbyshire is certifiable, has
been for years - as the public record well displays 8-/
Wolfgang used similar excuse to deny warning "Git_RDunn <Git_...@kh.kh>"
back in 2008 for his "Jihad" on <alt.binaries.news-server-comparison>, saying
in:
Message-ID:<58857.193.243.189.11...@banana.shacknet.nu>
"I do not think people like GitRDunn (or Greg Hall/Wesley
Mouch/Gloria) are susceptible to hints, advice or warnings.
They do, however, understand a "502 Permission denied". I have
just noticed that GitRDunn's postings are in violation of
Motzarella's TOS, as the domain hk.hk does not exist."
11 Sep 2008
"Git_RDunn" continued on in his campaign to undo what was then an attempt to
revive <abnsc>, He didn't see out 2009, spending his last days frothing and
ranting at posters.. dying in the traces, so to speak. Today <abnsc> is dead
for the purpose it was created, all over Usenet advice on "which NSP do I buy"
is delivered "engroupe". It is very rare to see an enquiry in <abnsc>.
"Git_RDunn" took the task his buddies set, some four years previous, to his
grave.
Derbyshire is ~35, of sustainable physical fitness, fully supported by the State
in his 20/7 thrashing of keyboards. One can only wonder just what will
be the final impact on the Sci-Fi, TV fan, Java and gamers NGs he plagues,
daily, before the "white-coats" decide to completely restrain his person to a
padded cell.
I supply the list of names used by Derbyshire in AFN since 2008. Others in
groups away from AFN should recognise many of them as being "kill-filed".
The list is not a complete list as I limited the search to two parameters:
a.) those electronically linked by Host - from the same node on that day
b.) those still available on servers today and thus easily verifiable
All of course are searchable through Google Advanced Search -
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&
.. an onerous task (for some) the records none-the-less stand, irrefutable.
As there is no point to checking which are "live" I have disabled the
addresses, saving networks the load of pinging through Spammers.

Canuck <canuck107 @canada.xyz>
Cthun <cthun_117 @qmail.net.au>
Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x @y.z>
dark-zark-fark <dzf190485 @rutgers.edu>
Deep Green <d_green11908 @gmail.com> (forgery)
Deeyana <d.awlberg @hotmail.invalid>
De Lurker <delancey_s113 @harvard.nospam.invalid>
Derek Yancey <dy190295683 @nospam.invalid>
Extravagan <extravagan @frogsoup.xelon.com>
Ferdinand the -14th <foo @bar.invalid>
Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council <fp-eotbp-gc
@ibm.com>
George Arctos <g.arctos11 @hormair.cor>
Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4 @gmai1.c0m>
Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval @gcsma.edu.br>
Gheerax IV <gheerax.4 @gmail.invalid>
Handkea fumosa <hfumosa @gmail.com>
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely @xavier.uwsc.edu>
Hydrocon <hcon77107 @geemail.corn>
Henry Harrison <hharr.1082 @quux.bar.foo>
Henderson <h1 @g1.f1>
Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q @hotmail.nospam.com.please>
Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348 @gmail.xxx>
Janie Zanie <jjezebel916 @gmai1.invalid>
Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla @gmail.com>
John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii @ask.me>
Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds @nbfinlan.net>
Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson @q.us>
kensi <kensi_kensington @zoonoses.de>
KitKat <kitkat_11697 @gmail.example.com>
Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018 @gmail.com> (forgery)
Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b @noggles.corn>
Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a @hotmail.coo>
Mike Faramis <m_faramis808 @qmail.nospam.net>
Mamac <mmc.19384_b @gmai1.com>
Nancy 3 <n3 @gmai1.c0m>
Nancy 4 <n4 @gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
Nebulous <nebulous99 @gmail.com>
Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds @dirtcheap.net>
Nougat Surprise <nsurprise @noway.nohow.invalid>
Orange Green <og_b1823 @netmail.zoog.com.au>
Purpleswandir <ps_1201294 @gmail.com>
RichB <rich_barnsley @nowhere.com>
scuzwalla @gmail.com
SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll @yah.right>
Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108 @example.com>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Spock <spock @starfleet.ufp>
Series Expansion <serexp1 @gmail.com>
Seamus MacRae <smacrae319 @live.ca.invalid>
Snicker-snack! <ssnack119 @g00glema1l.c0m>
Tim <tharrison77107 @h0tmail.invalid>
Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197 @hotmail.com>
thoolen <thoolen @tholenbot.thorium>
thoolen <tholen01 @gmail.com>
thoolen <th00len @th0lenbot.thorium>
Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x @gmail.xyz>

I know the person responsible for the attack on AFN in 2008 as "Seamus McRae"
- campaigned since under many many names - is Paul G Derbyshire of Pembroke,
Ontario [CA]. The same person posting as "Paul Derbyshire" <pgderb @gmail.com>.
I know to the extent it is no trouble to obtain ALL his personal data, such is
the way of things in the modern "Americas" under "Freedom".
Made easier by the fact Derbyshire is permanently unemployable at just 35 years
of age. However such personal data is none of my business, nor that of any
public media community.
All that is relevant is to address how I know, the proof I have known for quite
some time past now.
Easy enough done (by anyone) I simply followed the clues published by others in
the years before and supplemented that with a little "social engineering".
Derbyshire, despite the rants he builds sprouting an education, is not that
"bright", and likely qualifies under Formosa's Law, so the task was not that
onerous. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/Formosas-Law.html

Following a tip posted to AFN by a departing member of <c.l.j.p>
led to.
##From: Twisted <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
##Subject: Re: Java editor
##Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:11:16 -0000
##Message-ID: <1182301876.0...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.64.152.184

Which (in time) led to Derbyshire and myself exchanging eMail.
##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
##
##Email from Paul Derbyshire - twisted0n3 @gmail.com
##
##Re: *Question from Another User*
##From Paul Derbyshire Fri Jul 17 19:37:01 2009
##Authentication-Results: xxxxxx from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok);
## from=gmail.com; dkim=pass (ok)
##Return-Path: <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
##Received:from ?192.168.1.100? (bas1-ottawa10-1279301645.dsl.bell.ca
[76.64.152.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
28sm3955169eye.6.2009.07.17.12.37.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri,
17 Jul 2009 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
##Message-ID: <4A60D2DD.10107 @gmail.com>
##Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:37:01 -0400
##From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Paul Derbyshire <twisted0n3
@gmail.com>
##Reply-To: twisted0n3 @gmail.com
##User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
##To: <shxxx...@ymail.com>
##Subject: Re: *Question from Another User*
##
##Shxxx Luxxxxx wrote:
##(crazy talk, and admits to emailing me under false pretenses)
##>Think long and carefully before you write your next mail. Patient and
##>tolerant I am, a fool or one who suffers fools.. I am not.
##>You are very lucky it is I who tracked you,
##>others may not be so generous. If I can find you so easily so can others.
##This looks like a threat.
##I think we're done here. What's the term usenetters use? Ah, yes.
##*Plonk*.

Derbyshire's current eMail contact is <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>, thoroughly
tested and proven, Derbyshire is receiving and reading mail at that address.
I am very sure both Wolfgang and Paolo Amorosso (of AIOE.org) also have the
address on their desks carrying comment on my posts to AFN and ANH.

There can be absolutely no doubt the account holder who first posted as "Seamus
McRae" in MID: <gug8i2$nis$1...@news.motzarella.org>is known to Wolfgang
today as the same account holder using ES (as a port) in posts to AFN.
Derbyshire has been with Sympatico-Bell.ca for some years, certainly longer than
the period 2008-11, which contains all of the deliberate abuse of AFN
generosity.
Wolfgang could argue - in making excuse as he does in his statement quoted -
that he does not know "the person" behind that account.
The person who responded to my request, the person who had no less than 6(six)
exchanges in the developed eMail 'conversation', is the owner of the profile in
the link below. MO.org forwarded my request to that member and that member
responded.
http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/show_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=621

Now Wolfgang does *know*, knows what I *know*.. in the full legal sense.


Next issue.
Dealing with the issue of Wolfgang's policy on 'nym-shifting' is something I
leave largely to those interested in having the policy reviewed. I have
purposely left the topic to the near end as it is what should be most relevant
in this post to most AFN users. I myself want no part of that work. I simply
make the information available as it is not detailed in ES FAQs (or TOS) at the
time of writing (none of this post is written in anything close to "real time").
I have already told Wolfgang such a policy is an absurdity, to which his only
response was to request_I_ do the work to show why such is my thoughts.
What I did do is test the policy, and yes, it is in place and does work as
Wolfgang describes.
IF it takes any reader of this post more then ten seconds to figure out just
what someone of Paul Derbyshire's mental state could do with a "free-kick"
in nym-shifting in threads, a few times a fortnight, ad infinitum.. then I
respectfully suggest Usenet is just beyond you!

The rule is: One single name per text discussion NG - x-Posting has the home
group first with the "reply-to" group last (in the string) making up the Groups
Line (header).

Derbyshire discovered the nym-shift ability without knowing the ES.org policy..
as is seen in the two posts I point to. In all cases Derbyshire has followed up
his own posted comment from either server (ES.org or AIOE.org). Paolo has
indicated he too has no problem with posters changing out "From";
Message-ID: <ivpl71$it2$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
I am not certain Paolo fully understands operations of Usenet, let alone
a server! I address those issues in a separate posting.

The final word is directed squarely at Paul G Derbyshire.
Kicking back at what you fail to comprehend, Paul -- and that simply because
your education standard is hampered by a lack of completion -- is no solution,
for anyone. Many people have attempted correcting stuff for you, all nowhere
near as persistent as I. That will not change, as long as you breathe you will
endure, believe that.
Your immediate problem is in understanding presentation of a "persona".
As said previously, it is one per NG... regardless of the NSP.
However, as also 'said' to you *personally* many times, your best course of
action until the day you do "get it" is to use your RL name with a munged email
address, as many many posters do do, as I have done, in the recent past.

The example is : "Paul G Derbyshire" <twist...@gmail.com.invalid>

Responses to your posts under that "From" -- which bring you
grief -- are actionable under new laws in your Country and mine.
So it is you have no need to litigate civilly, as the Law protects your
"reputation". I am very sure someone can help you with a Legal Aid
request for service under Canadian "abuse of a carriage service" regulations so
as to charge criminally whom-so-ever you find umbrage with.
Anything else in even remote association with your past behaviour in
forgeries, nym-shifting, sp0rging, is all "fair game" for _anyone_ to come down
on you, heavily.. and there is not a damn thing you can do about *that*.

I have eMailed Nathan Wilson, making him aware of your preferred "modus
operandi" in forums, pointing him to some fine examples of your use of multiple
names in the <mushroomobserver.org> forum.
A copy of this post is included in that eMail.

Finally, you have never grasped the concept of Usenet hierarchies and thus
built yourself a whole unique "mantrap". <alt.*> is reserved for "anarchy",
anything goes, on the face of it. Not so in the rec,comp,sci and free
hierarchies you choose to play the *same* way in as you do the <alt.*>.
Time will sort you out on that Usenet reality, Paul.. I trust you have the
stamina to withstand the lessons.
Do carry on, Paul.. I fully understand you will not grasp any of this post as
"news".


The bit all look at first... the End.


More than 7(seven) years I have been subscribed to AFN, seen Good Guys
come and go, outnumbered ten to one by the quantity of Bad Guys done
in, persuaded to "move on, Sunshine". That's all it takes, a few positively
motivated persons holding to the ideology Usenet is for everyone, Free..
.. as in Freedom. Not to be surrendered to the very few individuals who
believe it is their Right to impinge on others Rights, Rights understood and
upheld _by the majority_.
I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor to
provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered subscription based
Free Usenet access, nothing more than cooperation expected in return for what
has been many thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA.. now it is my Time.
Yet in true Usenet tradition I do not go quietly, nor without purpose.
Other social mediums are not for me, Usenet is all there is buuuut I can no
longer contribute at a pace required to deliver the likes of Paul Derbyshire on
a plate. Thus it is I jump to the Dark Side, to work at my leisure, leaving
whomsoever is able to to deal with the twin problems of ES.org and AIOE.org
in sorting themselves out.
Always remember, none of this is about Derbyshire.. it is about how one person
can orchestrate problems for everyone when administration of NNTP servers
is not a priority of the owner/operator.
Google Groups, Teranews, Shared-Secrets, BubbaNews, Octanews, and today,
AIOE.org... are *all* examples of poor adminstration, bringing them to "rogue
server" status.
Folks can use that, and will.

My first post as "murphy".
MID: <h2bjon$vtc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
You just read my last.


I have emailed Wolfgang requesting my ES accounts be cancelled.
Regardless I will make sure they are cancelled.
Wolfgang has my uninhibited permission to publish whatever content
of eMails he wishes to rely on.
I have shut-down the Keith Renske Yahoo.com box making it a SpamHole.
The phlatarse @fm box will always reject Spam (ask ReLF, it was I who
handed he that tip when he first rocked into AFN - big mistake I made)
but Fastmail.FM boxes shut down on auto-block after 40 days of inactivity
anyways.

For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish you severe
Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me well (eMail, whatever) and
see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and
adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear
well with all Life brings you".

/0ut


"murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash®"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin +"wu®m"
2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)]

___________________________________________________________________
.*.
-() < Q. What is it that holds the
`*' Derbyshire world together.
A. The brewing pot of 'shroom tea.
____________________________________________________________________

For those newbies who do find all of this (below) as TMI [too much information],
choosing to "skip it", I offer this piece of advice.
Skip it if you must but at least take the time to read the page at the link
below. Therein is an understanding of what to avoid in becoming one, ever.
Anything else and someday someone just like myself (when I was
keen and motivated) will pop your cork, turning you over... forever.
AUK [alt.usenet.kooks] is littered with the walking talking 'bodies' of persons
who failed to listen to basic concepts when first addressing Usenet.
Usenet is **not** a Fool's Paradise, more of a Purgatory.
Take the lesson, play "nice".

The people who will crow the loudest at my passing are those whom I
(myself) have impacted on in their Life, true headcases, swinging from
my belt.
These are the losers who could not control their software, and thus
could not control their Read, leaving their grey cells (quanity unknown)
reverbrating with a pressure to post. That was their mistake.. resist
making it yours.

Newbies read:
http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm

____________________________________________________________________

Reference material:
_________________

Asking Guggle "Whois Twisted @ gmail?" returns:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/twistingDerbyshireStupid
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3f8LMxQAAABzMoDGNQrZUnNS0epIsharOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A


Some others who have found Derbyshire in the past:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3CueadnREbevWvsuHfRVn-gg%40adelphia.com%3E
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.progressive/browse_thread/thread/d00d41200ed876c8/1d1851b81dcbc945?q=Derbyshire+Single+Ottawa
http://groups.google.com/group/carleton.chat.suggestions/browse_thread/thread/5f11363d59e5786b/d13334abf1bfcc79?q=Derbyshire+%22Carleton+University%22
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.kia-mennie/msg/c9946955fb73b48c?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/0f45a32df19eca5b/5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
http://web.archive.org/web/20090617092700/http://kookpedia.net/index.php/Main_Page


Derbyshire's claim to be a Veteran of military action in another Country:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Path: [*]news.eternal-september.org!not-for-mail
> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
> Subject: Re: ?Flat Ass, send Seamus MacRae his Bic lighter ( Zippos
> suck ). Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:41:05 -0400
> Message-ID: <h049q4$8s...@news.eternal-september.org>
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)

> Nope, hallucinogenic drugs just aren't my thing. I skipped all that
> nonsense during the sixties -- too young for it anyway, and,
> fortunately, too young to be sent to 'Nam.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Path: [*]motzarella.org!news.motzarella.org!not-for-mail
> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers
> Subject: Re: Ray Banana, Why do you provide such an excellent service
> to Usenet? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:10:14 -0400
> Message-ID: <h16dbl$fn...@news.eternal-september.org>
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)

> The name is Seamus, and I, unlike you, am in fact a decorated veteran.
> I was in 'nam.

________________________________________

Classic Catches [on] Paul "Harold Yarmouth" Derbyshire
________________________________________

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/65299a1a8856b074/74a9fdde57260e45?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu

##From: Adlai <munchk...@gm...com>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
##Message-ID: <b9218faf-af41-43d1...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 93.173.15.44
##X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
##
##On May 18, 10:25=A0am, Series Expansion <sere...@gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
##>
##> This is clearly incorrect. They are still both macros, which means
##> that a certain intersection of their natures exists. Particularly,
##> those things that follow unassailably from the fundamental definition
##> of "macro", independently of implementation details, will lie within
##> that intersection, and it is those things that form the basis of my
##> macro-related arguments here.
##
##
##Series, I wish I had the time to respond in detail to each of your
##posts and provide you with material so you could keep on lighting fire
##to your pink bunny boxers. However, time is limited, and I have a busy
##day ahead. I look forward to reading your inspired verbal diarrhea
##when I return from my LIFE at the end of the day. With some amount of
##good fortune, there will be another 15 minutes of pure joy waiting.
##
##I'm loving it.
##
##
## - Adlai

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##From: Arne Vajhøj <arne @vajhoej.dk>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
##In-Reply-To:<bc27e34f-37cf-4b88...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
##Message-ID: <4a58d9b5$0$48245$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.192.23.157
##X-Complaints-To: st...@sunsite.dk
##
##Series Expansion wrote:
##> On May 26, 3:33 pm, Kaz Kylheku <kkylh.. .@gm....com> wrote:
##>> Not really. The above is the behavior of the Seamus MacRae identity.
##>
##> Why do you refer to people named X as "the X identity"?
##
##Because you are known for using multiple identities.
##
##Arne


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##From: Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null>
##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
##Message-ID: <87iqjog...@lion.rapttech.com.au>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 748cdfdb.news.astraweb.com
##
##Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
##
##> On May 25, 4:22Â am, Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null> wrote:
##>> Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
##>> > On May 24, 4:19Â am, Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null> wrote:
##>> >> Can't help but notice you cut my text just before the bit where I said
##>> >> this was *not* a personal attack
##>>
##>> > That was a lie. I have little interest in reading lies. If I ever do
##>> > develop an inexplicable urge to read lies, I will visit whitehouse.gov
##>> > or a similar politician-run site.
##>>
##>> OK, I see, its ok for you to personally attack me by claiming I lied
##>
##> Well, it's kind of hard not to when you say something won't be a
##> personal atatck, and then spend four very long paragraphs telling the
##> whole world how stupid you think I am.
##>
##Well, it seems you want it both ways. In your first reply, you stated
##you didn't read what followed, now your claiming it was 4 paragraphs
##of me telling the world how stupid you are. Either you read it or you
##did not.
##
##Check it out again. I did NOT state you were stupid even once. In fact,
##after the initial paragraph where I stated I was not making a personal
##attack, I made only passing references to being mistaken. In fact, I
##whent to considerable length not to try and make it appear personal
##while at the same time trying to point out why your statements were in
##error. The bulk of the e-mail was factural statements regarding the
##current state of emacs.
##
##It would seem that your so concerned about people thinking your stupid
##that your makeing very basic errors in comprehension. I do not know you
##and don't know whether your stupid or not, but the evidence does
##indicate your overly defensive - to the point of interpreting any
##attempt to correct any misinformation you have as a personal attack.
##How would someone have to phrase a correction for you so that it is not
##seen as a personal attack or do you never get anything wrong?
##
##Tim
##
##PS. I'm now very glad I didn't also correct your misinformation
##concerning blind programmers and graphical UIs.
##
##PPS. FYI I've been a blind programmer for over 10 years and do happen to
##know a bit about it
##
##--
##tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au


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##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
##From: Paul Donnelly <paul-donne...@sbcgl....net>
##Message-ID: <87hbz07...@plap.localdomain>
##NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.157.168.183
##X-Complaints-To: ab...@prodigy.net
##
##Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
##
##> On May 31, 9:07Â am, java... .@gm....com wrote:
##>> On 30 Mag, 05:59, Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> wrote:
##>>
##>> > > Kindergarten really has been a great time!!
##>>
##>> > Well, now your incoherence is satisfactorily explained: you are
##>> > apparently far too young to have mastered coherence yet.
##>>
##>> You see, if somebody is so full of himself [rest of obviously
##>> off-topic post deleted unread]
##>
##> These tiresome personal attacks do not constitute rational arguments
##> in favor of either Lisp or Java, java.oke.
##
##Since you're impenetrable to rational arguments, I don't see why anyone
##would continue to waste time constructing them. Really, they should just
##put you in their killfile, like I'm about to do.

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http://preview.tinyurl.com/DerbyshireWINS
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/9a7d222b5dc91c78/b60304dc8b563960?q=author:scuzwalla%40gmail.com
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/5e39ce4277e8ea55?dmode=source

From: Bent C Dalager <b...@pvv.ntnu.no>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.programming
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <slrnh3099...@decibel.pvv.ntnu.no>
NNTP-Posting-Host: decibel.pvv.ntnu.no

> Seamus MacRae wrote:
> ) Willem wrote:
> )> Seamus MacRae wrote:
> )> ) <snip>
> )> ) I. Do. Not. Make. Mistakes.
> )> ) <snip>
>
> By the way, the statement 'I do not make mistakes' is delusional
> and megalomanic. If you really believe that you should get
> professional help. If not, you've just proven yourself a liar.

Keep in mind that this is the same person who in our '07 exchange
authored such gems as

---
No. No point that is contradictory to something that I've said ever
"stands", and none of the nasty things that you have said or implied
about me are at all true.
---
Nothing is ever my fault.
---
If you've done so, then you need to get your eyesight checked. It is
not possible for a genuine observation to contradict me; you could no
more observe that than you could observe two plus two adding up to
five. If you thought you did, then you saw something illusory, or
perhaps hallucinatory.
---
[..]

At the time he went under a variety of names, of which "Twisted" was
perhaps the most apt one. He discontinued them after the thread died
down and has occasionally re-emerged in c.l.j.p with new names, only
to have his behaviour recognized, participate in a brief exchange and
then disappear again. What has made the current reincarnation
particularly long-lived, I expect, is that he is an unknown phenomenom
in c.l.l and c.p so wasn't as readily ignored.
[..]
I made a pledge at the time to the c.l.j.p regulars that I would
discontinue the exchange. For that reason I have posted this only to
c.l.l and c.p. This is somewhat rude of me as I do not read either of
those groups, but on the other hand I will not be around to respond to
Seamus' inevitable rebuttal so there's a silver lining I suppose.

Cheers,
Bent D
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/DerbyshireLearns-DNS-shift
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/0f45a32df19eca5b/5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
[Ed Note]
Prior to this time Derbyshire was ignorant of the fact his ES.org and
AIOE.org posts were "tagged" with a unique identifier in the "Host" field.
Derbyshire has claimed he has read AFN "for years" yet he obviously
had no knowledge of this feature for those servers, despite the fact it
had been discussed many times in lengthy threads.
From the day his uptight brain was forcibly injected with the knowledge
Derbyshire immediately changed behavior. Questioning him as to why
that was brought silence.

Message-ID: <gq16379h04123jtkn...@4ax.com>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cgq16379h04123jtkn53mcu53fb75fq7cmp%404ax.com%3E

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Message-ID: <89c637h2pgfumqmst...@4ax.com>
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Message-ID: <j13ja2$u2p$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cj13ja2%24u2p%241%40speranza.aioe.org%3E

I include all of the above to illustrate what many have not only
misunderstood in my "posting style" but even when put plain in
front of them have just not "got". Period.
To wit:
When on a k00ks/trolls "tail" I test "stuff". Call it "environmental
social engineering", if you like :->
Getting results takes time, and sometimes attracts flames from
the boisterous ignorant, wasted as they are, it helps.. in hiding
my purpose.
On this occasion I wanted the respective NSP Admins to _see_
Derbyshire was totally FOS in what was his endeavour to have
the respective Admins believe he was the "persecuted victim
defending himself", all the time actually purposefully engaged in
bring those servers into disrepute!
So, I "engineered" Derbyshire getting "hand fed" the one thing
he did not know. He reacted immediately.
And so it is now that unlike just a few weeks ago one could just
punch in _one_ Host string and pop *all* posts across *all* NGs
under *all* "nyms" (and often four or five in the same NG, on the
same day) now it is required to search each NG individually.

Sad to say, neither Admin had clear sight of the change. And,
considering Derbyshire was under "watch" it is that information
which gave me the total results for the test.
Like.. when the Admin's eyes glaze over.. what is left as hope for
Groups to interact as the majority intend?
[/Ed Note]

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http://mushroomobserver.org/comment/show_comment/38444?q=6rh4
Psathyrella sp. (22311):
Created: 2011-07-12 23:56:56 EDT (-0400)
By: Paul Derbyshire (Twizzler)
Summary: This thread should probably just die.
^^I don’t agree that I’ve done anything to invite reprehensible responses.
^^(And as for the “Usenet community”, I haven’t touched Usenet in years —
^^too much heat and too little light for my tastes. Someone there is
^^apparently (ab)using my name, or it’s another Paul Derbyshire.)

Classic Derbyshire Boast:
Message-ID: <h16d0n$fn2$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
##As for "lucrative", I have managed to save up about $3 million and am
##going to retire and go on vacation soon. A nice, long vacation with no
##usenet. So if I suddenly disappear and stay gone, it's not because I've
##"seen the light" and now agree with all of this nonsense that's being
##posted. It's because I'm dancing with half-naked women in Tahiti and
##couldn't care less what some bunch of fucknozzles are spouting
##ignorantly on the Internet.




Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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"murphy" <murph...@aioe.invalid> wrote in message
news:j4js91$arp$1...@dont-email.me...
*************************

Wow! I'm impressed. The above would almost qualify as a doctoral
dissertation. Too bad the focus is a demonstration on "how to be a
thorough net nanny" which contributes to the problem rather than "how to
mind your own business" which tends to minimize the problem and/or cause
it to fade away.

Did not snip any of Murphy's research project because it must have taken
hours or days to compose. Such dedication to a cause (no matter how
misguided) should not be dismissed lightly.

--
Gregory Hall

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Greg Hall posted as news:
>"murphy" <murph...@aioe.invalid> wrote in message
>news:j4js91$arp$1...@dont-email.me...
nAn> 0n Mon, 1 Aug 2011 I [murphy] wrote in
nAn> <j16bcp$33t$1...@dont-email.me> showing electronic tracking of
nAn> Paul G Derby5hire's newest adventure into trolling AFN with:
nAn>
nAnA> Message-ID: <j15aqs$9lf$2...@dont-email.me>
nAnA> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 04:42:04 +0000 (UTC)
nAnA> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
nAnA> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q";
nAnA>
nAnA> Message-ID: <j15qj4$rsi$1...@dont-email.me>
nAnA> Injection-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:11:00 +0000 (UTC)
nAnA> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
nAnA> posting-host="nWgYBzPiz8NHWqVFL3Lc/Q"
nAnA>
nAnA> Message-ID: <j160qm$mta$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
nAnA> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:57:25 -0400
nAnA> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
nAnA>
nAnA> Message-ID: <j14v1i$3pv$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
nAnA> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:20:51 -0400
nAnA> NNTP-Posting-Host: yifYu5jjQd240fPnOtRJZg.user.speranza.aioe.org
nAnA>
nAnA>Paolo AND Ray!
nAn>
nAn> [update]
nAn>
nAn> I subsequently wrote Wolfgang (wolf @eternal-september.org) and asked
nAn> this
nAn> question -
nAn> "How do I ask why this poster is being
nAn> ignored, prompting a reply that makes sense?
nAn>
nAn> The answer to which now leads to this post being made, despite some
nAn> loose
nAn> (avoiding) exchanges (eMails) being made in denying Wolfgang the out
nAn> of "running from the problem".
nAn> The answer being -
nAn>
nAn> "There is a server rule that automatically bans users who use more
nAn> than
nAn> 5 different nyms within 10 consecutive days.
nAn> Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? The user in question (as neither you
nAn> nor
nAn> I know his real identity, the names don't matter) has so far managed
nAn> to
nAn> avoid hitting this limit."
nAn>
nAn> Now. there are a number of issues which could be addressed in that
nAn> statement, I point to what I see as the two prime issues, for Usenet
nAn> and
nAn> for the perspective held by regulars who have contributed profusely to
nAn> AFN in
nAn> years past, and, maybe see no reason not to continue despite the Noise
nAn> from
nAn> vagrants/miscreants/trolls... and the clinically insane.
nAn>
nAn> The two issues being:
nAn> 1. The absurdity of such a policy
nAn> 2. The Truth of "neither you nor I know his real identity"
nAn>
nAn> Reversing the order - for clarity - I address "know" in setting an
nAn> ambience of
nAn> candid veracity for this work (publication).
nAn>
nAn> It would be to easy for those so inclined to look at the posts of
nAn> "Ray Banana" <rayban @banana.shacknet.nu> and think "Ray knows".
nAn> Equally for those following the bouncing ball(s) I have posted around
nAn> Derby5hire's activity in AFN (with links as provenance) it would be
nAn> quite
nAn> reasonable for those enlightened gals 'n' guys to think
nAn> "murphy/phlatArse
nAn> knows".
nAn> Not good enough people.
nAn> Wolfgang is using the legalese "know" not the anecdotal "know".
nAn> Simply put, Wolfgang is saying;
nAn> "put a document before me which identifies
nAn> Paul G Derby5hire as *any* of the posters you
nAn> claim him to be and I _may_ look at the activity.
nAn>
nAn> So it is *all* of the arguments offered thusfar can be seen (as an
nAn> excuse to do
nAn> nothing) as "armchair attorneys" and/or "Usenet vigilantes" posting
nAn> _opinion_ on
nAn> Derby5hire's activity.
nAn> Despite the fact logs from <news.eternal-september.org> would easily
nAn> reveal the dynamics of the DNS range Derby5hire uses, despite the fact
nAn> seven
nAn> clearly identifiable disconnected posters from five Countries
nAn> (Ireland, Norway,
nAn> USA, Canada, Australia) have published the provenance over many years,
nAn> despite the fact Derby5hire himself has published his own "outing"
nAn> in MiD:
nAn> <0941e52b-d50a-4bc8...@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>
nAn> http://preview.tinyurl.com/PGDerby5hireSpeaks
nAn> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=
100&scoring=&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2011&as_
maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2011&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pgderb
%40gmail.com&safe=off
nAn> - despite *all* that - there is no way Wolfgang can *know* until he
nAn> himself
nAn> goes looking.
nAn> What is the degree of difficulty?
nAn> The information is "public domain", has been for some years.
nAn> And not 'hidden', at all.. as the "bricks and mortar" would easily be
nAn> discovered
nAn> by the person holding the information of server access AND "six years
nAn> as a NSP
nAn> Admin" - Wolfgang's own words.
nAn> Wolfgang himself will tell you there is nothing "illegal" (in any
nAn> terms) in
nAn> searching out and publishing a person's Name and eMail address - read
nAn> the
nAn> ES TOS for proof. So there is no legal impediment to searching.
nAn> So, what is the problem for Wolfgang in looking?
nAn> Laziness, with a hint of a fear from repercussions, all same what Neal
nAn> Hubbard
nAn> [Cap'n Neal - Greg Hall (Squeaky] dished out in his tissy fits, when
nAn> removed
nAn> from Wolfgang's server.
nAn> The latter is easily dealt with by an Administration, the former is
nAn> incurable.
nAn> So it is I say I find it not acceptable (to me, personally) for NSP
nAn> Administrators to expect, as a default situation, that the members of
nAn> NGs have
nAn> the responsibility of searching out and proving "know", when it is the
nAn> NSP who
nAn> has the only legally accessible database which holds the proof a
nAn> vagrant/miscreant/troll is indeed ^whom^ the complainant points to.
nAn> Worse, refusing to act until "know" is proved is just not good enough.
nAn> The activity _should be_ ample evidence to prompt the Administrator to
nAn> contact the subscriber and warn the person.
nAn>
nAn> Wolfgang refuses to do this simple step which would have an immediate
nAn> effect.
nAn> His reasoning, so he says, is that such a slap would create a
nAn> "Hannibal Lector"
nAn> type Derby5hire.
nAn> Wolfgang is way too late in using that excuse, Derby5hire is
nAn> certifiable, has
nAn> been for years - as the public record well displays 8-/
nAn> Wolfgang used similar excuse to deny warning "Git_RDunn
nAn> <Git_...@kh.kh>"
nAn> back in 2008 for his "Jihad" on <alt.binaries.news-server-comparison>,
nAn> saying
nAn> in:
nAn> Message-ID:<58857.193.243.189.11...@banana.shacknet.nu>
nAn> "I do not think people like GitRDunn (or Greg Hall/Wesley
nAn> Mouch/Gloria) are susceptible to hints, advice or warnings.
nAn> They do, however, understand a "502 Permission denied". I have
nAn> just noticed that GitRDunn's postings are in violation of
nAn> Motzarella's TOS, as the domain hk.hk does not exist."
nAn> 11 Sep 2008
nAn> "Git_RDunn" continued on in his campaign to undo what was then an
nAn> attempt to
nAn> revive <abnsc>, He didn't see out 2009, spending his last days
nAn> frothing and
nAn> ranting at posters.. dying in the traces, so to speak. Today <abnsc>
nAn> is dead
nAn> for the purpose it was created, all over Usenet advice on "which NSP
nAn> do I buy"
nAn> is delivered "engroupe". It is very rare to see an enquiry in <abnsc>.
nAn> "Git_RDunn" took the task his buddies set, some four years previous,
nAn> to his
nAn> grave.
nAn> Derby5hire is ~35, of sustainable physical fitness, fully supported by
nAn> the State
nAn> in his 20/7 thrashing of keyboards. One can only wonder just what will
nAn> be the final impact on the Sci-Fi, TV fan, Java and gamers NGs he
nAn> plagues,
nAn> daily, before the "white-coats" decide to completely restrain his
nAn> person to a
nAn> padded cell.
nAn> I supply the list of names used by Derby5hire in AFN since 2008.
nAn> Others in
nAn> groups away from AFN should recognise many of them as being
nAn> "kill-filed".
nAn> The list is not a complete list as I limited the search to two
nAn> parameters:
nAn> a.) those electronically linked by Host - from the same node on that
nAn> day
nAn> b.) those still available on servers today and thus easily verifiable
nAn> All of course are searchable through Google Advanced Search -
nAn> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&
nAn> .. an onerous task (for some) the records none-the-less stand,
nAn> irrefutable.
nAn> As there is no point to checking which are "live" I have disabled the
nAn> addresses, saving networks the load of pinging through Spammers.
nAn>
nAn> Canuck <canuck107 @canada.xyz>
nAn> Cthun <cthun_117 @qmail.net.au>
nAn> Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x @y.z>
nAn> dark-zark-fark <dzf190485 @rutgers.edu>
nAn> Deep Green <d_green11908 @gmail.com> (forgery)
nAn> Deeyana <d.awlberg @hotmail.invalid>
nAn> De Lurker <delancey_s113 @harvard.nospam.invalid>
nAn> Derek Yancey <dy190295683 @nospam.invalid>
nAn> Extravagan <extravagan @frogsoup.xelon.com>
nAn> Ferdinand the -14th <foo @bar.invalid>
nAn> Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council
nAn> <fp-eotbp-gc
nAn> @ibm.com>
nAn> George Arctos <g.arctos11 @hormair.cor>
nAn> Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4 @gmai1.c0m>
nAn> Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval @gcsma.edu.br>
nAn> Gheerax IV <gheerax.4 @gmail.invalid>
nAn> Handkea fumosa <hfumosa @gmail.com>
nAn> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely @xavier.uwsc.edu>
nAn> Hydrocon <hcon77107 @geemail.corn>
nAn> Henry Harrison <hharr.1082 @quux.bar.foo>
nAn> Henderson <h1 @g1.f1>
nAn> Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q @hotmail.nospam.com.please>
nAn> Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348 @gmail.xxx>
nAn> Janie Zanie <jjezebel916 @gmai1.invalid>
nAn> Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla @gmail.com>
nAn> John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii @ask.me>
nAn> Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds @nbfinlan.net>
nAn> Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson @q.us>
nAn> kensi <kensi_kensington @zoonoses.de>
nAn> KitKat <kitkat_11697 @gmail.example.com>
nAn> Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018 @gmail.com> (forgery)
nAn> Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b @noggles.corn>
nAn> Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a @hotmail.coo>
nAn> Mike Faramis <m_faramis808 @qmail.nospam.net>
nAn> Mamac <mmc.19384_b @gmai1.com>
nAn> Nancy 3 <n3 @gmai1.c0m>
nAn> Nancy 4 <n4 @gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
nAn> Nebulous <nebulous99 @gmail.com>
nAn> Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds @dirtcheap.net>
nAn> Nougat Surprise <nsurprise @noway.nohow.invalid>
nAn> Orange Green <og_b1823 @netmail.zoog.com.au>
nAn> Purpleswandir <ps_1201294 @gmail.com>
nAn> RichB <rich_barnsley @nowhere.com>
nAn> scuzwalla @gmail.com
nAn> SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll @yah.right>
nAn> Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108 @example.com>
nAn> <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
nAn> @averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
nAn> Spock <spock @starfleet.ufp>
nAn> Series Expansion <serexp1 @gmail.com>
nAn> Seamus MacRae <smacrae319 @live.ca.invalid>
nAn> Snicker-snack! <ssnack119 @g00glema1l.c0m>
nAn> Tim <tharrison77107 @h0tmail.invalid>
nAn> Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197 @hotmail.com>
nAn> thoolen <thoolen @tholenbot.thorium>
nAn> thoolen <tholen01 @gmail.com>
nAn> thoolen <th00len @th0lenbot.thorium>
nAn> Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x @gmail.xyz>
nAn>
nAn> I know the person responsible for the attack on AFN in 2008 as "Seamus
nAn> McRae"
nAn> - campaigned since under many many names - is Paul G Derby5hire of
nAn> Pembroke,
nAn> Ontario [CA]. The same person posting as "Paul Derby5hire" <pgderb
nAn> @gmail.com>.
nAn> I know to the extent it is no trouble to obtain ALL his personal data,
nAn> such is
nAn> the way of things in the modern "Americas" under "Freedom".
nAn> Made easier by the fact Derby5hire is permanently unemployable at just
nAn> 35 years
nAn> of age. However such personal data is none of my business, nor that of
nAn> any
nAn> public media community.
nAn> All that is relevant is to address how I know, the proof I have known
nAn> for quite
nAn> some time past now.
nAn> Easy enough done (by anyone) I simply followed the clues published by
nAn> others in
nAn> the years before and supplemented that with a little "social
nAn> engineering".
nAn> Derby5hire, despite the rants he builds sprouting an education, is not
nAn> that
nAn> "bright", and likely qualifies under Formosa's Law, so the task was
nAn> not that
nAn> onerous. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/Formosas-Law.html
nAn>
nAn> Following a tip posted to AFN by a departing member of <c.l.j.p>
nAn> led to.
nAn> ##From: Twisted <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
nAn> ##Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
nAn> ##Subject: Re: Java editor
nAn> ##Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:11:16 -0000
nAn> ##Message-ID: <1182301876.0...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
nAn> ##NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.64.152.184
nAn>
nAn> Which (in time) led to Derby5hire and myself exchanging eMail.
nAn> ##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
nAn> ##
nAn> ##Email from Paul Derby5hire - twisted0n3 @gmail.com
nAn> ##
nAn> ##Re: *Question from Another User*
nAn> ##From Paul Derby5hire Fri Jul 17 19:37:01 2009
nAn> ##Authentication-Results: xxxxxx from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok);
nAn> ## from=gmail.com; dkim=pass (ok)
nAn> ##Return-Path: <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
nAn> ##Received:from ?192.168.1.100? (bas1-ottawa10-1279301645.dsl.bell.ca
nAn> [76.64.152.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
nAn> 28sm3955169eye.6.2009.07.17.12.37.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3
nAn> cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri,
nAn> 17 Jul 2009 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
nAn> ##Message-ID: <4A60D2DD.10107 @gmail.com>
nAn> ##Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:37:01 -0400
nAn> ##From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Paul Derby5hire <twisted0n3
nAn> @gmail.com>
nAn> ##Reply-To: twisted0n3 @gmail.com
nAn> ##User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
nAn> ##To: <shxxx...@ymail.com>
nAn> ##Subject: Re: *Question from Another User*
nAn> ##
nAn> ##Shxxx Luxxxxx wrote:
nAn> ##(crazy talk, and admits to emailing me under false pretenses)
nAn> ##>Think long and carefully before you write your next mail. Patient
nAn> and
nAn> ##>tolerant I am, a fool or one who suffers fools.. I am not.
nAn> ##>You are very lucky it is I who tracked you,
nAn> ##>others may not be so generous. If I can find you so easily so can
nAn> others.
nAn> ##This looks like a threat.
nAn> ##I think we're done here. What's the term usenetters use? Ah, yes.
nAn> ##*Plonk*.
nAn>
nAn> Derby5hire's current eMail contact is <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>,
nAn> thoroughly
nAn> tested and proven, Derby5hire is receiving and reading mail at that
nAn> address.
nAn> I am very sure both Wolfgang and Paolo Amorosso (of AIOE.org) also
nAn> have the
nAn> address on their desks carrying comment on my posts to AFN and ANH.
nAn>
nAn> There can be absolutely no doubt the account holder who first posted
nAn> as "Seamus
nAn> McRae" in MID: <gug8i2$nis$1...@news.motzarella.org>is known to Wolfgang
nAn> today as the same account holder using ES (as a port) in posts to AFN.
nAn> Derby5hire has been with Sympatico-Bell.ca for some years, certainly
nAn> longer than
nAn> the period 2008-11, which contains all of the deliberate abuse of AFN
nAn> generosity.
nAn> Wolfgang could argue - in making excuse as he does in his statement
nAn> quoted -
nAn> that he does not know "the person" behind that account.
nAn> The person who responded to my request, the person who had no less
nAn> than 6(six)
nAn> exchanges in the developed eMail 'conversation', is the owner of the
nAn> profile in
nAn> the link below. MO.org forwarded my request to that member and that
nAn> member
nAn> responded.
nAn> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/show_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=621
nAn>
nAn> Now Wolfgang does *know*, knows what I *know*.. in the full legal
nAn> sense.
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> Next issue.
nAn> Dealing with the issue of Wolfgang's policy on 'nym-shifting' is
nAn> something I
nAn> leave largely to those interested in having the policy reviewed. I
nAn> have
nAn> purposely left the topic to the near end as it is what should be most
nAn> relevant
nAn> in this post to most AFN users. I myself want no part of that work. I
nAn> simply
nAn> make the information available as it is not detailed in ES FAQs (or
nAn> TOS) at the
nAn> time of writing (none of this post is written in anything close to
nAn> "real time").
nAn> I have already told Wolfgang such a policy is an absurdity, to which
nAn> his only
nAn> response was to request_I_ do the work to show why such is my
nAn> thoughts.
nAn> What I did do is test the policy, and yes, it is in place and does
nAn> work as
nAn> Wolfgang describes.
nAn> IF it takes any reader of this post more then ten seconds to figure
nAn> out just
nAn> what someone of Paul Derby5hire's mental state could do with a
nAn> "free-kick"
nAn> in nym-shifting in threads, a few times a fortnight, ad infinitum..
nAn> then I
nAn> respectfully suggest Usenet is just beyond you!
nAn>
nAn> The rule is: One single name per text discussion NG - x-Posting has
nAn> the home
nAn> group first with the "reply-to" group last (in the string) making up
nAn> the Groups
nAn> Line (header).
nAn>
nAn> Derby5hire discovered the nym-shift ability without knowing the ES.org
nAn> policy..
nAn> as is seen in the two posts I point to. In all cases Derby5hire has
nAn> followed up
nAn> his own posted comment from either server (ES.org or AIOE.org). Paolo
nAn> has
nAn> indicated he too has no problem with posters changing out "From";
nAn> Message-ID: <ivpl71$it2$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
nAn> I am not certain Paolo fully understands operations of Usenet, let
nAn> alone
nAn> a server! I address those issues in a separate posting.
nAn>
nAn> The final word is directed squarely at Paul G Derby5hire.
nAn> Kicking back at what you fail to comprehend, Paul -- and that simply
nAn> because
nAn> your education standard is hampered by a lack of completion -- is no
nAn> solution,
nAn> for anyone. Many people have attempted correcting stuff for you, all
nAn> nowhere
nAn> near as persistent as I. That will not change, as long as you breathe
nAn> you will
nAn> endure, believe that.
nAn> Your immediate problem is in understanding presentation of a
nAn> "persona".
nAn> As said previously, it is one per NG... regardless of the NSP.
nAn> However, as also 'said' to you *personally* many times, your best
nAn> course of
nAn> action until the day you do "get it" is to use your RL name with a
nAn> munged email
nAn> address, as many many posters do do, as I have done, in the recent
nAn> past.
nAn>
nAn> The example is : "Paul G Derby5hire" <twist...@gmail.com.invalid>
nAn>
nAn> Responses to your posts under that "From" -- which bring you
nAn> grief -- are actionable under new laws in your Country and mine.
nAn> So it is you have no need to litigate civilly, as the Law protects
nAn> your
nAn> "reputation". I am very sure someone can help you with a Legal Aid
nAn> request for service under Canadian "abuse of a carriage service"
nAn> regulations so
nAn> as to charge criminally whom-so-ever you find umbrage with.
nAn> Anything else in even remote association with your past behaviour in
nAn> forgeries, nym-shifting, sp0rging, is all "fair game" for _anyone_ to
nAn> come down
nAn> on you, heavily.. and there is not a damn thing you can do about
nAn> *that*.
nAn>
nAn> I have eMailed Nathan Wilson, making him aware of your preferred
nAn> "modus
nAn> operandi" in forums, pointing him to some fine examples of your use of
nAn> multiple
nAn> names in the <mushroomobserver.org> forum.
nAn> A copy of this post is included in that eMail.
nAn>
nAn> Finally, you have never grasped the concept of Usenet hierarchies and
nAn> thus
nAn> built yourself a whole unique "mantrap". <alt.*> is reserved for
nAn> "anarchy",
nAn> anything goes, on the face of it. Not so in the rec,comp,sci and free
nAn> hierarchies you choose to play the *same* way in as you do the
nAn> <alt.*>.
nAn> Time will sort you out on that Usenet reality, Paul.. I trust you have
nAn> the
nAn> stamina to withstand the lessons.
nAn> Do carry on, Paul.. I fully understand you will not grasp any of this
nAn> post as
nAn> "news".
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> The bit all look at first... the End.
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> More than 7(seven) years I have been subscribed to AFN, seen Good Guys
nAn> come and go, outnumbered ten to one by the quantity of Bad Guys done
nAn> in, persuaded to "move on, Sunshine". That's all it takes, a few
nAn> positively
nAn> motivated persons holding to the ideology Usenet is for everyone,
nAn> Free..
nAn> .. as in Freedom. Not to be surrendered to the very few individuals
nAn> who
nAn> believe it is their Right to impinge on others Rights, Rights
nAn> understood and
nAn> upheld _by the majority_.
nAn> I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor to
nAn> provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
nAn> subscription based
nAn> Free Usenet access, nothing more than cooperation expected in return
nAn> for what
nAn> has been many thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I
nAn> joined with
nAn> are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA.. now it is
nAn> my Time.
nAn> Yet in true Usenet tradition I do not go quietly, nor without purpose.
nAn> Other social mediums are not for me, Usenet is all there is buuuut I
nAn> can no
nAn> longer contribute at a pace required to deliver the likes of Paul
nAn> Derby5hire on
nAn> a plate. Thus it is I jump to the Dark Side, to work at my leisure,
nAn> leaving
nAn> whomsoever is able to to deal with the twin problems of ES.org and
nAn> AIOE.org
nAn> in sorting themselves out.
nAn> Always remember, none of this is about Derby5hire.. it is about how
nAn> one person
nAn> can orchestrate problems for everyone when administration of NNTP
nAn> servers
nAn> is not a priority of the owner/operator.
nAn> Google Groups, Teranews, Shared-Secrets, BubbaNews, Octanews, and
nAn> today,
nAn> AIOE.org... are *all* examples of poor adminstration, bringing them to
nAn> "rogue
nAn> server" status.
nAn> Folks can use that, and will.
nAn>
nAn> My first post as "murphy".
nAn> MID: <h2bjon$vtc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
nAn> You just read my last.
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> I have emailed Wolfgang requesting my ES accounts be cancelled.
nAn> Regardless I will make sure they are cancelled.
nAn> Wolfgang has my uninhibited permission to publish whatever content
nAn> of eMails he wishes to rely on.
nAn> I have shut-down the Keith Renske Yahoo.com box making it a SpamHole.
nAn> The phlatarse @fm box will always reject Spam (ask ReLF, it was I who
nAn> handed he that tip when he first rocked into AFN - big mistake I made)
nAn> but Fastmail.FM boxes shut down on auto-block after 40 days of
nAn> inactivity
nAn> anyways.
nAn>
nAn> For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish you
nAn> severe
nAn> Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me well (eMail, whatever)
nAn> and
nAn> see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu mein
nAn> frenz and
nAn> adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times! May you and yours
nAn> always bear
nAn> well with all Life brings you".
nAn>
nAn> /0ut
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> "murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash®"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin +"wu®m"
nAn> 2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)]
nAn>
nAn> ___________________________________________________________________
nAn> .*.
nAn> -() < Q. What is it that holds the
nAn> `*' Derby5hire world together.
nAn> A. The brewing pot of 'shroom tea.
nAn> ____________________________________________________________________
nAn>
nAn> For those newbies who do find all of this (below) as TMI [too much
nAn> information],
nAn> choosing to "skip it", I offer this piece of advice.
nAn> Skip it if you must but at least take the time to read the page at the
nAn> link
nAn> below. Therein is an understanding of what to avoid in becoming one,
nAn> ever.
nAn> Anything else and someday someone just like myself (when I was
nAn> keen and motivated) will pop your cork, turning you over... forever.
nAn> AUK [alt.usenet.kooks] is littered with the walking talking 'bodies'
nAn> of persons
nAn> who failed to listen to basic concepts when first addressing Usenet.
nAn> Usenet is **not** a Fool's Paradise, more of a Purgatory.
nAn> Take the lesson, play "nice".
nAn>
nAn> The people who will crow the loudest at my passing are those whom I
nAn> (myself) have impacted on in their Life, true headcases, swinging from
nAn> my belt.
nAn> These are the losers who could not control their software, and thus
nAn> could not control their Read, leaving their grey cells (quanity
nAn> unknown)
nAn> reverbrating with a pressure to post. That was their mistake.. resist
nAn> making it yours.
nAn>
nAn> Newbies read:
nAn> http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
nAn>
nAn> ____________________________________________________________________
nAn>
nAn> Reference material:
nAn> _________________
nAn>
nAn> Asking Guggle "Whois Twisted @ gmail?" returns:
nAn> http://preview.tinyurl.com/twistingDerby5hireStupid
nAn> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3f8LMxQAAABzMoDGNQrZUnNS
0epIsharOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> Some others who have found Derby5hire in the past:
nAn> http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3CueadnREbevWvsuHfRVn-
gg%40adelphia.com%3E
nAn> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.progressive/browse_thread/thread
/d00d41200ed876c8/1d1851b81dcbc945?q=Derby5hire+Single+Ottawa
nAn> http://groups.google.com/group/carleton.chat.suggestions/browse_thread/thread
/5f11363d59e5786b/d13334abf1bfcc79?q=Derby5hire+%22Carleton+University%22
nAn> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.kia-mennie/msg/c9946955fb73b48c?dmode=source
nAn> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread
/0f45a32df19eca5b/5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
nAn> http://web.archive.org/web/20090617092700/http://kookpedia.net/index.php/Main_Page
nAn>
nAn>
nAn> Derby5hire's claim to be a Veteran of military action in another
nAn> Country:
nAnA> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
nAnA> Path: [*]news.eternal-september.org!not-for-mail
nAnA> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
nAnA> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
nAnA> Subject: Re: ?Flat Ass, send Seamus MacRae his Bic lighter ( Zippos
nAnA> suck ). Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:41:05 -0400
nAnA> Message-ID: <h049q4$8s...@news.eternal-september.org>
nAnA> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)
nAn>
nAnA> Nope, hallucinogenic drugs just aren't my thing. I skipped all that
nAnA> nonsense during the sixties -- too young for it anyway, and,
nAnA> fortunately, too young to be sent to 'Nam.
nAn>
nAnA> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
nAn>
nAnA> Path: [*]motzarella.org!news.motzarella.org!not-for-mail
nAnA> From: Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.invalid>
nAnA> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers
nAnA> Subject: Re: Ray Banana, Why do you provide such an excellent service
nAnA> to Usenet? Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:10:14 -0400
nAnA> Message-ID: <h16dbl$fn...@news.eternal-september.org>
nAnA> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)
nAn>
nAnA> The name is Seamus, and I, unlike you, am in fact a decorated
nAnA> veteran.
nAnA> I was in 'nam.

> *************************
>
>Wow! I'm impressed. The above would almost qualify as a doctoral
>dissertation. Too bad the focus is a demonstration on "how to be a
>thorough net nanny" which contributes to the problem rather than "how to
>mind your own business" which tends to minimize the problem and/or cause
>it to fade away.
>
>Did not snip any of Murphy's research project because it must have taken
>hours or days to compose. Such dedication to a cause (no matter how
>misguided) should not be dismissed lightly.

Bravo!!
Nigh past time these morons running servers woke up to the trolls!
Blind Freddy could see what that mad Canadian cunt is up to and it took
only one buddy with a fucking big stick to get the news out.

Why am I hearing doors slam over the badger holes?

Is it Fear of
INCOMING!!
or
Smallcock Syndrome?

http://icwdm.org/inspection/groundholes.asp



thoolen

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Sep 12, 2011, 9:11:24 PM9/12/11
to
On 12/09/2011 8:28 PM, "m16", an obvious murphy sock, wrote:
NaN> Bravo!!
NaN> Nigh past time these morons running servers woke up to the trolls!

What does your trolling have to do with Vietnam, murphy?

NaN> Blind Freddy could see what that mad Canadian cunt is up to and it took
NaN> only one buddy with a fucking big stick to get the news out.

Who is "that mad Canadian cunt", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> Why am I hearing doors slam over the badger holes?

Ask your psychiatrist, murphy. The etiology of auditory hallucinations
is not my field of expertise.

NaN> Is it Fear of
NaN> INCOMING!!
NaN> or
NaN> Smallcock Syndrome?

What does your "Smallcock Syndrome" have to do with free newsservers or
Vietnam, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with free newsservers or Vietnam, murphy?

Kulin Remailer

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Sep 12, 2011, 10:03:08 PM9/12/11
to mail...@dizum.com
Here's your address:

Neal Warren/Wilbur Hubbard/Gregory Hall
PO Box 1015
Tavernier, FL 33070
305 304-7546



Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Sep 13, 2011, 11:47:13 AM9/13/11
to
"BroJack" <po...@home.net> wrote in message
news:4e6e9ca8$0$15433$c3e8da3$40cd...@news.astraweb.com...
> <50imdd....@news.alt.net>," Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
> <greg...@home.fake>, wrote:

<snipped all murphy's hard work>

>>Wow! I'm impressed. The above would almost qualify as a doctoral
>>dissertation. Too bad the focus is a demonstration on "how to be a
>>thorough net nanny" which contributes to the problem rather than "how
>>to
>>mind your own business" which tends to minimize the problem and/or
>>cause
>>it to fade away.
>>
>>Did not snip any of Murphy's research project because it must have
>>taken
>>hours or days to compose. Such dedication to a cause (no matter how
>>misguided) should not be dismissed lightly.
>
> Boong sure did nail that suckers ass!
> What a trio together in conspiracy is busted!
> Derbyshire, AIOE, Eternal-September, trusted my ass!
> I cannot imagine anyone paying for their service.


How anybody can be so loyal to E/S amazes me greatly. It's even more
absurd for the likes of Murphy to appear to be disappointed in the E/S
normal routine of corruption/sleaze. Ray Banana enforces his TOS/AUP
capriciously and arbitrarily. Rarely have I ever run across a bigger
hypocrite. Sure, it can be said he can run his NSP any way he wishes but
he cannot run it arbitrarily and capriciously and then pretend to be
moral and professional while expecting people to take him seriously. He
cannot engage in his bully practices in plain view of the world on the
one hand and then claim to be a benevolent and fair admininistrator on
the other.

It's beyond absurd!

--
Gregory Hall



Peter Mark

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Sep 13, 2011, 7:21:10 PM9/13/11
to
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:59:17 +0100, in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet you posted:

[[[[[[[[[[[[redirected]]]]]]]]]]
(wrong newsgroup) alon78 <greed1...@yahoo.co.uk>

Your post returned:
What you have there murphy is the classic "three ball plant".
Well done but what happens now with the "pressure pot"?
alt.free.newsservers is the theme park for the baby troll
screwing over the greasy wog. Banana boy gets to play
banana shots in blocking? Finish the game murphy pot
the black.
Your shots are weird for a straight shooter.
Just saying.
>
http://www.billiardworld.com/snooker.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZ0freyR2E

>>##From: Arne Vajh�j <arne @vajhoej.dk>


>>##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>##In-Reply-To:<bc27e34f-37cf-4b88...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
>>##Message-ID: <4a58d9b5$0$48245$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>
>>##NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.192.23.157
>>##X-Complaints-To: st...@sunsite.dk
>>##
>>##Series Expansion wrote:
>>##> On May 26, 3:33 pm, Kaz Kylheku <kkylh.. .@gm....com> wrote:
>>##>> Not really. The above is the behavior of the Seamus MacRae identity.
>>##>
>>##> Why do you refer to people named X as "the X identity"?
>>##
>>##Because you are known for using multiple identities.
>>##
>>##Arne
>>
>>
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/a1850eed28d98d7a/9e23fedfc2e57910?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu
>>##From: Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null>
>>##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>##Message-ID: <87iqjog...@lion.rapttech.com.au>
>>##NNTP-Posting-Host: 748cdfdb.news.astraweb.com
>>##
>>##Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
>>##

>>##> On May 25, 4:22� am, Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null> wrote:
>>##>> Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:

>What you have there murphy is the classic "three ball plant".
>Well done but what happens now with the "pressure pot"?
>alt.free.newsservers is the theme park for the baby troll
>screwing over the greasy wog. Banana boy gets to play
>banana shots in blocking? Finish the game murphy pot
>the black.
>Your shots are weird for a straight shooter.
>Just saying.
>>
>http://www.billiardworld.com/snooker.html
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZ0freyR2E
>
>

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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"Peter Mark" <peter.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What you have there murphy is the classic "three ball plant".
> Well done but what happens now with the "pressure pot"?
> alt.free.newsservers is the theme park for the baby troll
> screwing over the greasy wog. Banana boy gets to play
> banana shots in blocking? Finish the game murphy pot
> the black.
> Your shots are weird for a straight shooter.
> Just saying.


Top-posting fuckwit !!!!!

Follow-up to ignored.


alon78

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Peter Mark <peter.m...@gmail.com>, wrote:

Followup-To: ott.general ignored

>On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:59:17 +0100, in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet you posted:
>
>[[[[[[[[[[[[redirected]]]]]]]]]]
>(wrong newsgroup) alon78 <greed1...@yahoo.co.uk>
>
>Your post returned:
>What you have there murphy is the classic "three ball plant".
>Well done but what happens now with the "pressure pot"?
>alt.free.newsservers is the theme park for the baby troll
>screwing over the greasy wog. Banana boy gets to play
>banana shots in blocking? Finish the game murphy pot
>the black.
>Your shots are weird for a straight shooter.
>Just saying.
>>
>http://www.billiardworld.com/snooker.html
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZ0freyR2E
>
>

Damn! Murphy pocketed my psot with Followup-To:
not being bounced again!

>>>##From: Arne Vajhøj <arne @vajhoej.dk>


>>>##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>>##In-Reply-To:<bc27e34f-37cf-4b88...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
>>>##Message-ID: <4a58d9b5$0$48245$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>
>>>##NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.192.23.157
>>>##X-Complaints-To: st...@sunsite.dk
>>>##
>>>##Series Expansion wrote:
>>>##> On May 26, 3:33 pm, Kaz Kylheku <kkylh.. .@gm....com> wrote:
>>>##>> Not really. The above is the behavior of the Seamus MacRae identity.
>>>##>
>>>##> Why do you refer to people named X as "the X identity"?
>>>##
>>>##Because you are known for using multiple identities.
>>>##
>>>##Arne
>>>
>>>
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_thread/thread/a1850eed28d98d7a/9e23fedfc2e57910?q=%22Series+Expansion%22+author:tar%40sevak.isi.edu
>>>##From: Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null>
>>>##Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>>##Message-ID: <87iqjog...@lion.rapttech.com.au>
>>>##NNTP-Posting-Host: 748cdfdb.news.astraweb.com
>>>##
>>>##Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:
>>>##

>>>##> On May 25, 4:22Â am, Tim X <t...@nospam.dev.null> wrote:
>>>##>> Series Expansion <sere.. .@gm....com> writes:

Kulin Remailer

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Read it and weep:

alien

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In article http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=
4e6e9ca8$0$15433$c3e8da3$40cd...@news.astraweb.com On Mon, 12 Sep 2011

18:58:31 -0500, BroJack wrote:

> Boong sure did nail that suckers ass!
> What a trio together in conspiracy is busted! Derbyshire, AIOE,
> Eternal-September, trusted my ass!
> I cannot imagine anyone paying for their service.
>

> Jack

AFAIK eternal-september and AIOE is free service CMIIW.

thoolen

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On 11/09/2011 11:28 PM, murphy wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers,alt.binaries.news-server-
comparison,alt.usenet.news-server-comparison,news.admin.net-
abuse.usenet

with identical posts made to:

NaN> Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp

and to:

NaN> Newsgroups:
rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.games.roguelike.development

and to

NaN> Newsgroups: Newsgroups: ont.general,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv

In particular, two separate copies in the one group rec.arts.sf.tv.

"Multipost is death to froups if allowed by servers."
--murphy

How ironic.

NaN> 0n Mon, 1 Aug 2011 I [murphy] wrote in
NaN> <j16bcp$33...@dont-email.me> showing electronic tracking of
NaN> Paul G Derbysh!re's newest adventure into trolling AFN with:

What does your unsubstantiated allegation regarding "Paul G Derbysh!
re" have to do with newsservers, murphy? And who is "Paul G Derbysh!
re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> [update]

What does your "update" have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> I subsequently wrote Wolfgang (wolf @eternal-september.org) and
NaN> asked this question -
NaN> "How do I ask why this poster is being
NaN> ignored, prompting a reply that makes sense?

What does your question of Wolfgang have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> The answer to which now leads to this post being made, despite
NaN> some loose (avoiding) exchanges (eMails) being made in denying
NaN> Wolfgang the out of "running from the problem".

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The answer being -
NaN>
NaN> "There is a server rule that automatically bans users who use
NaN> more than 5 different nyms within 10 consecutive days.
NaN> Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? The user in question (as
neither
NaN> you nor I know his real identity, the names don't matter) has
so far
NaN> managed to avoid hitting this limit."

What does your nymshifting and careful evasion of server rules have to
do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> Now. there are a number of issues which could be addressed in
NaN> that statement, I point to what I see as the two prime issues,
NaN> for Usenet and for the perspective held by regulars who have
NaN> contributed profusely to AFN in years past, and, maybe see no
NaN> reason not to continue despite the Noise from vagrants/
NaN> miscreants/trolls... and the clinically insane.

What do your trolling and your clinical insanity have to do with
newsservers, murphy? Rather ironic that you'd mention trolls and the
clinically insane generating noise in newsgroups, while trolling a
round dozen newsgroups with multiposted off-topic flamebait of a
paranoid nature, murphy.

NaN> The two issues being:
NaN> 1. The absurdity of such a policy
NaN> 2. The Truth of "neither you nor I know his real identity"

What do your identity issues have to do with newsservers, murphy? It
would be more appropriate for you to discuss your issues with your
psychiatrist, murphy.

NaN> Reversing the order - for clarity - I address "know" in setting
NaN> an ambience of candid veracity for this work (publication).

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsservers, murphy? You have *never* "set an ambience of candid
veracity", murphy, given that everything you post is utter nonsense.

NaN> It would be to easy for those so inclined to look at the posts of
NaN> "Ray Banana" <rayban @banana.shacknet.nu> and think "Ray knows".

Who is "Ray Banana", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Equally for those following the bouncing ball(s) I have posted
NaN> around Derbysh!re's activity in AFN (with links as provenance)
NaN> it would be quite reasonable for those enlightened gals 'n' guys
NaN> to think

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> "murphy/phlatArse knows".

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsservers, murphy? More appropriate would be "murphy/phlatArse
hallucinates", murphy.

NaN> Not good enough people.

What does your not being good enough have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> Wolfgang is using the legalese "know" not the anecdotal "know".

Anyone implementing rules fairly and impartially has to, murphy, or
else they can be manipulated by malefactors into being the tools of
oppression, or misled by lunatics like you into banning innocent
people.

NaN> Simply put, Wolfgang is saying;
NaN> "put a document before me which identifies
NaN> Paul G Derbysh!re as *any* of the posters you
NaN> claim him to be and I _may_ look at the activity.

Who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> So it is *all* of the arguments offered thusfar can be seen (as
NaN> an excuse to do nothing) as "armchair attorneys" and/or "Usenet
NaN> vigilantes" posting _opinion_ on Derbysh!re's activity.

Or perhaps this interpretation is more believable, murphy: Wolfgang
quickly recognized you as a paranoid psycho, murphy, and is humoring
you as much as possible and otherwise ignoring you.

NaN> Despite the fact logs from <news.eternal-september.org> would
NaN> easily reveal the dynamics of the DNS range Derbysh!re uses,
NaN> despite the fact seven clearly identifiable disconnected
NaN> posters from five Countries (Ireland, Norway, USA, Canada,
NaN> Australia) have published the provenance over many years,
NaN> despite the fact Derbysh!re himself has published his own
NaN> "outing" in MiD:
NaN> <0941e52b-d50a-4bc8-
aa3f-930955de1...@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

What do your URLs have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> - despite *all* that - there is no way Wolfgang can *know* until
NaN> he himself goes looking.

Classic pontification. It's called the empirical method, murphy, and
all of modern science is built on it. A scientific mind requires
evidence to be convinced of something, murphy, not just some paranoid
rants emailed to him or randomly crossposted and multiposted to
irrelevant groups on Usenet.

NaN> What is the degree of difficulty?

What does your question have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> The information is "public domain", has been for some years.

What does your ever-so-generous dedication of your paranoid
rantifestos into the public domain have to do with newsservers,
murphy? Though one wonders who would otherwise hold the copyrights,
murphy. If there are multiple voices in your head, murphy, could one
of them sue another one for infringement?

NaN> And not 'hidden', at all.. as the "bricks and mortar" would
NaN> easily be discovered by the person holding the information of
NaN> server access AND "six years as a NSP Admin" - Wolfgang's own
NaN> words.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Wolfgang himself will tell you there is nothing "illegal" (in any
NaN> terms) in searching out and publishing a person's Name and eMail
NaN> address - read the ES TOS for proof. So there is no legal
NaN> impediment to searching.

There is a moral impediment, murphy.

NaN> So, what is the problem for Wolfgang in looking?

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Laziness, with a hint of a fear from repercussions, all same what
NaN> Neal Hubbard [Cap'n Neal - Greg Hall (Squeaky] dished out in his
NaN> tissy fits, when removed from Wolfgang's server.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The latter is easily dealt with by an Administration, the former
NaN> is incurable.

Classic pontification.

NaN> So it is I say I find it not acceptable (to me, personally)
for
NaN> NSP Administrators to expect, as a default situation, that the
NaN> members of NGs have the responsibility of searching out and
NaN> proving "know", when it is the NSP who has the only legally
NaN> accessible database which holds the proof a vagrant/miscreant/
troll
NaN> is indeed ^whom^ the complainant points to.

If you don't find the policies of your news server acceptable to you,
personally, murphy, then switch to another one. The server has the
right to be run in a manner that you, personally, disagree with,
murphy. If that includes a policy, written or unwritten, against
invading the privacy of one of its users upon the pseudonymous request
of another based on unsubstantiated allegations, then so much the
better, murphy.

NaN> Worse, refusing to act until "know" is proved is just not good
NaN> enough.

It's good enough for the criminal justice system, murphy. In fact, the
presumption of innocence is a cornerstone of all civilized justice
systems. Acting before "know" is proved results in tragedies, murphy
-- torches-and-pitchforks vigilantes destroying property and lives,
innocents being lynched at the hands of mobs, and so forth.

If you so strongly believe in the supremacy of an authoritarian rule
over the individual's freedoms and, in particular, over the
presumption of an individual's innocence, murphy, then perhaps you
should move to China, or North Korea, or Iran, or Cuba, murphy.

NaN> The activity _should be_ ample evidence to prompt the
NaN> Administrator to contact the subscriber and warn the person.

What does your vague allegation of unspecified nefarious "activity" on
an unspecified "subscriber"'s part have to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> Wolfgang refuses to do this simple step which would have an
NaN> immediate effect.

Because doing so would turn him into a pawn of people like you, who
would unjustly gain the ability to cause anyone to be arbitrarily
served with a threat notice, murphy.

NaN> His reasoning, so he says, is that such a slap would create a
NaN> "Hannibal Lector" type Derbysh!re. Wolfgang is way too late in
NaN> using that excuse, Derbysh!re is certifiable, has been for years
NaN> - as the public record well displays 8-/

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Wolfgang used similar excuse to deny warning "Git_RDunn
NaN> <Git_RD...@kh.kh>" back in 2008 for his "Jihad" on
NaN> <alt.binaries.news-server-comparison>, saying in:
NaN> Message-ID:
NaN> <58857.193.243.189.117.1221123438.squir...@banana.shacknet.nu>

Who is "Git_RDunn", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> "I do not think people like GitRDunn (or Greg Hall/Wesley
NaN> Mouch/Gloria) are susceptible to hints, advice or warnings.
NaN> They do, however, understand a "502 Permission denied". I have
NaN> just noticed that GitRDunn's postings are in violation of
NaN> Motzarella's TOS, as the domain hk.hk does not exist."
NaN> 11 Sep 2008

What does that have to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> "Git_RDunn" continued on in his campaign to undo what was then an
NaN> attempt to revive <abnsc>, He didn't see out 2009, spending his
NaN> last days frothing and ranting at posters.. dying in the traces,
NaN> so to speak.

Who is "Git_RDunn", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Today <abnsc> is dead for the purpose it was created, all over
NaN> Usenet advice on "which NSP do I buy"
NaN> is delivered "engroupe". It is very rare to see an enquiry in
NaN> <abnsc>.

What does that have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> "Git_RDunn" took the task his buddies set, some four years
NaN> previous, to his grave. Derbysh!re is ~35, of sustainable
NaN> physical fitness, fully supported by the State in his 20/7
NaN> thrashing of keyboards.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> One can only wonder just what will be the final impact on the
Sci-
NaN> Fi, TV fan, Java and gamers NGs he plagues, daily, before the
NaN> "white-coats" decide to completely restrain his person to a
padded
NaN> cell.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp,
murphy? All of the newsgroups you've indicated appear to be thriving,
murphy, with either high signal traffic or very low noise, murphy. The
ones with the highest noise levels are the TV newsgroups, murphy, and
the noise in them is predominantly coming from right-wing political
trolls, murphy. In the Java and gaming newsgroups, the most recent
significant source of noise has been you, murphy.

NaN> I supply the list of names used by Derbysh!re in AFN since 2008.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Others in groups away from AFN should recognise many of them as
NaN> being "kill-filed".

Classic erroneous presupposition.

NaN> The list is not a complete list as I limited the search to two
NaN> parameters:
NaN> a.) those electronically linked by Host - from the same node on
NaN> that day
NaN> b.) those still available on servers today and thus easily
NaN> verifiable

Classic erroneous presupposition.

NaN> All of course are searchable through Google Advanced Search -

What does your URL have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> . an onerous task (for some) the records none-the-less stand,
NaN> irrefutable.
NaN> As there is no point to checking which are "live" I have disabled
NaN> the addresses, saving networks the load of pinging through
NaN> Spammers.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

NaN> Canuck <canuck107 @canada.xyz>
NaN> Cthun <cthun_117 @qmail.net.au>
NaN> Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x @y.z>
NaN> dark-zark-fark <dzf190485 @rutgers.edu>
NaN> Deep Green <d_green11908 @gmail.com> (forgery)
NaN> Deeyana <d.awlberg @hotmail.invalid>
NaN> De Lurker <delancey_s113 @harvard.nospam.invalid>
NaN> Derek Yancey <dy190295683 @nospam.invalid>
NaN> Extravagan <extravagan @frogsoup.xelon.com>
NaN> Ferdinand the -14th <foo @bar.invalid>
NaN> Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council
<fp-
NaN> eotbp-gc @ibm.com>
NaN> George Arctos <g.arctos11 @hormair.cor>
NaN> Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4 @gmai1.c0m>
NaN> Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval @gcsma.edu.br>
NaN> Gheerax IV <gheerax.4 @gmail.invalid>
NaN> Handkea fumosa <hfumosa @gmail.com>
NaN> Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely @xavier.uwsc.edu>
NaN> Hydrocon <hcon77107 @geemail.corn>
NaN> Henry Harrison <hharr.1082 @quux.bar.foo>
NaN> Henderson <h1 @g1.f1>
NaN> Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q @hotmail.nospam.com.please>
NaN> Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348 @gmail.xxx>
NaN> Janie Zanie <jjezebel916 @gmai1.invalid>
NaN> Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla @gmail.com>
NaN> John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii @ask.me>
NaN> Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds @nbfinlan.net>
NaN> Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson @q.us>
NaN> kensi <kensi_kensington @zoonoses.de>
NaN> KitKat <kitkat_11697 @gmail.example.com>
NaN> Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018 @gmail.com> (forgery)
NaN> Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b @noggles.corn>
NaN> Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a @hotmail.coo>
NaN> Mike Faramis <m_faramis808 @qmail.nospam.net>
NaN> Mamac <mmc.19384_b @gmai1.com>
NaN> Nancy 3 <n3 @gmai1.c0m>
NaN> Nancy 4 <n4 @gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
NaN> Nebulous <nebulous99 @gmail.com>
NaN> Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds @dirtcheap.net>
NaN> Nougat Surprise <nsurprise @noway.nohow.invalid>
NaN> Orange Green <og_b1823 @netmail.zoog.com.au>
NaN> Purpleswandir <ps_1201294 @gmail.com>
NaN> RichB <rich_barnsley @nowhere.com>
NaN> scuzwalla @gmail.com
NaN> SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll @yah.right>
NaN> Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108 @example.com>
NaN>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
NaN> @averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
NaN> Spock <spock @starfleet.ufp>
NaN> Series Expansion <serexp1 @gmail.com>
NaN> Seamus MacRae <smacrae319 @live.ca.invalid>
NaN> Snicker-snack! <ssnack119 @g00glema1l.c0m>
NaN> Tim <tharrison77107 @h0tmail.invalid>
NaN> Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197 @hotmail.com>
NaN> thoolen <thoolen @tholenbot.thorium>
NaN> thoolen <tholen01 @gmail.com>
NaN> thoolen <th00len @th0lenbot.thorium>
NaN> Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x @gmail.xyz>

What does your paranoia have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> I know the person responsible for the attack on AFN in 2008 as
NaN> "Seamus McRae"
NaN> - campaigned since under many many names - is Paul G
NaN> Derbysh!re of Pembroke, Ontario [CA].

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> The same person posting as "Paul Derbysh!re" <pgderb @gmail.com>.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> I know to the extent it is no trouble to obtain ALL his personal
NaN> data, such is the way of things in the modern "Americas" under
NaN> "Freedom". Made easier by the fact Derbysh!re is permanently
NaN> unemployable at just 35 years of age. However such personal data
NaN> is none of my business, nor that of any public media community.

Ironically, that hasn't stopped you spreading these dubious and
unsubstantiated allegations about Derbysh!re to random and irrelevant
newsgroups, murphy.

NaN> All that is relevant is to address how I know, the proof I have
NaN> known for quite some time past now.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Easy enough done (by anyone) I simply followed the clues
NaN> published by others in the years before and supplemented that
NaN> with a little "social engineering".

What do your dishonesty and your paranoia have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re, despite the rants he builds sprouting an education,
NaN> is not that "bright", and likely qualifies under Formosa's Law,
NaN> so the task was not that onerous.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

What does your URL have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Following a tip posted to AFN by a departing member of <c.l.j.p>
NaN> led to.

Classic ungrammatical sentence. There's a missing noun phrase between
the preposition and the ending period, murphy.

NaN> ##From: Twisted <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
NaN> ##Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
NaN> ##Subject: Re: Java editor
NaN> ##Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:11:16 -0000
NaN> ##Message-ID:
NaN> <1182301876.070277.260...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
NaN> ##NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.64.152.184

What does any of that have to do with Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Which (in time) led to Derbysh!re and myself exchanging eMail.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> ##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NaN> ##
NaN> ##Email from Paul Derbysh!re - twisted0n3 @gmail.com
NaN> ##
NaN> ##Re: *Question from Another User*
NaN> ##From Paul Derbysh!re Fri Jul 17 19:37:01 2009
NaN> ##Authentication-Results: xxxxxx from=3Dgmail.com;
domainkeys=3Dpass
NaN> (ok);
NaN> ## from=3Dgmail.com; dkim=3Dpass (ok)
NaN> ##Return-Path: <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
NaN> ##Received:from ?192.168.1.100? (bas1-
NaN> ottawa10-1279301645.dsl.bell.ca [76.64.152.13])
NaN> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm3955169eye.
NaN> 6.2009.07.17.12.37.05
NaN> (version=3DTLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=3DRC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009
NaN> 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
NaN> ##Message-ID: <4A60D2DD.10107 @gmail.com>
NaN> ##Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:37:01 -0400
NaN> ##From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Paul Derbysh!re
NaN> <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>
NaN> ##Reply-To: twisted0n3 @gmail.com
NaN> ##User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
NaN> ##To: <shxxxlxx...@ymail.com>
NaN> ##Subject: Re: *Question from Another User*
NaN> ##
NaN> ##Shxxx Luxxxxx wrote:
NaN> ##(crazy talk, and admits to emailing me under false pretenses)
NaN> ##>Think long and carefully before you write your next mail.
NaN> Patient and
NaN> ##>tolerant I am, a fool or one who suffers fools.. I am not.
NaN> ##>You are very lucky it is I who tracked you,
NaN> ##>others may not be so generous. If I can find you so easily so
NaN> can others.
NaN> ##This looks like a threat.
NaN> ##I think we're done here. What's the term usenetters use? Ah,
NaN> yes.
NaN> ##*Plonk*.

What does your republication, doubtless without permission and
therefore in violation of privacy, of someone's email have to do with
newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re's current eMail contact is <twisted0n3 @gmail.com>,
NaN> thoroughly tested and proven, Derbysh!re is receiving and
NaN> reading mail at that address.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> I am very sure both Wolfgang and Paolo Amorosso (of AIOE.org)
NaN> also have the address on their desks carrying comment on my
NaN> posts to AFN and ANH.

Who are "Wolfgang" and "Paolo Amorosso", murphy? There is nobody in
this newsgroup using either alias.

NaN> There can be absolutely no doubt the account holder who first
NaN> posted as "Seamus McRae" in
MID:<gug8i2$ni...@news.motzarella.org>
NaN> is known to Wolfgang today as the same account holder using ES
NaN> (as a port) in posts to AFN.

Who is "Seamus McRae", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Derbysh!re has been with Sympatico-Bell.ca for some years,

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> certainly longer than the period 2008-11, which contains all of
NaN> the deliberate abuse of AFN generosity.

What does your deliberate abuse of AFN have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> Wolfgang could argue - in making excuse as he does in his
NaN> statement quoted - that he does not know "the person" behind that
NaN> account.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The person who responded to my request, the person who had no
NaN> less than 6(six) exchanges in the developed eMail 'conversation',
NaN> is the owner of the profile in the link below.

What does your claim have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> MO.org forwarded my request to that member and that member
NaN> responded.

What does your URL have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Now Wolfgang does *know*, knows what I *know*.. in the full legal
NaN> sense.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Next issue.

Classic ambiguity.

NaN> Dealing with the issue of Wolfgang's policy on 'nym-shifting' is
NaN> something I leave largely to those interested in having the
policy
NaN> reviewed.

What does your nym-shifting have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> I have purposely left the topic to the near end as it is what
NaN> should be most relevant in this post to most AFN users.

Alas, nothing in your post is relevant to comp.lang.* users, murphy,
yet you sent your post to those newsgroups instead of AFN anyway.

NaN> I myself want no part of that work. I simply make the information
NaN> available as it is not detailed in ES FAQs (or TOS) at the time
NaN> of writing (none of this post is written in anything close to
NaN> "real time").

What does that have to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> I have already told Wolfgang such a policy is an absurdity, to
NaN> which his only response was to request_I_ do the work to show
NaN> why such is my thoughts.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> What I did do is test the policy, and yes, it is in place and
NaN> does work as Wolfgang describes.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> IF it takes any reader of this post more then ten seconds to
NaN> figure out just what someone of Paul Derbysh!re's mental state
NaN> could do with a "free-kick" in nym-shifting in threads, a few
NaN> times a fortnight, ad infinitum.. then I respectfully suggest
NaN> Usenet is just beyond you!

Who is "Paul Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> The rule is: One single name per text discussion NG - x-Posting
NaN> has the home group first with the "reply-to" group last (in the
NaN> string) making up the Groups Line (header).

What does your rule have to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re discovered the nym-shift ability without knowing the
NaN> ES.org policy.. as is seen in the two posts I point to. In all
NaN> cases Derbysh!re has followed up his own posted comment from
NaN> either server (ES.org or AIOE.org).

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Paolo has indicated he too has no problem with posters changing
NaN> out "From"; Message-ID: <ivpl71$it...@speranza.aioe.org>

Who is "Paolo", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And the message you indicated is from "Aioe" and makes no
mention of any "Paolo", murphy. Still suffering from hallucinations,
murphy?

NaN> I am not certain Paolo fully understands operations of Usenet,
NaN> let alone a server! I address those issues in a separate posting.

Who is "Paolo", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

NaN> The final word is directed squarely at Paul G Derbysh!re.

Who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> Kicking back at what you fail to comprehend, Paul -- and that
NaN> simply because your education standard is hampered by a lack of
NaN> completion -- is no solution, for anyone.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And what does your unsubstantiated allegation that "Paul" is a
drop-out have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Many people have attempted correcting stuff for you, all nowhere
NaN> near as persistent as I.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsservers, murphy? Neither you nor anybody else has been
correcting stuff for a nonexistent person, murphy, for obvious
reasons. The only thing you have been persistent at is stalking a
figment of your own imagination, murphy, and posting paranoid, off-
topic screeds all over usenet in the process.

NaN> That will not change, as long as you breathe you will endure,
NaN> believe that.

What does your threat towards "Paul" have to do with newsservers,
murphy? If he actually existed, your threat would be grounds for his
being able to obtain a TRO against you, murphy, enjoining you from any
further contact with him. Be thankful that he's just a creature of
your own mind, murphy.

NaN> Your immediate problem is in understanding presentation of a
NaN> "persona".

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsservers, murphy? For "Paul" to have such a problem he'd first have
to exist as more than just a paranoid delusion of yours, murphy.

NaN> As said previously, it is one per NG... regardless of the NSP.

What does your claim have to do with binaries, murphy? And why do you
think you can bind anyone else to a rule you make up on the spot,
murphy? You aren't King of Usenet, murphy. Nevermind that your
intended target doesn't even exist, murphy. You can't even get that
right, murphy.

NaN> However, as also 'said' to you *personally* many times, your best
NaN> course of action until the day you do "get it" is to use your RL
NaN> name with a munged email address, as many many posters do do, as
NaN> I have done, in the recent past.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsservers, murphy? Half the people you've been harassing do appear
to be using their real names with munged email addresses, murphy, yet
your claim above implies that none of them are.

NaN> The example is : "Paul G Derbysh!re"
NaN> <twisted0...@gmail.com.invalid>

Why should a large assortment of posters be forced to use that same
From line, murphy, just on your say-so? That would result in massive
confusion and inability of other people to tell them apart, murphy.
And who declared you the final arbiter of who gets subjected to this
rule and who doesn't? Are we really to expect that you can just name
someone, by making a post like this one with a list of random names,
and everyone you name is then forced to assume that particular
identity, murphy? What does your lunatic demand of all of Usenet have
to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> Responses to your posts under that "From" -- which bring you
NaN> grief -- are actionable under new laws in your Country and mine.

What does your claim have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> So it is you have no need to litigate civilly, as the Law
NaN> protects your "reputation".

Classic ambiguity.

NaN> I am very sure someone can help you with a Legal Aid request for
NaN> service under Canadian "abuse of a carriage service" regulations
NaN> so as to charge criminally whom-so-ever you find umbrage with.

What does your criminal conduct have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Anything else in even remote association with your past behaviour
NaN> in forgeries, nym-shifting, sp0rging, is all "fair game" for
NaN> _anyone_ to come down on you, heavily.. and there is not a damn
NaN> thing you can do about *that*.

What do your vague threat and your unsubstantiated allegations towards
a figment of your own imagination have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> I have eMailed Nathan Wilson, making him aware of your preferred
NaN> "modus operandi" in forums, pointing him to some fine examples of
NaN> your use of multiple names in the <mushroomobserver.org> forum.

What does your unsubstantiated allegation have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> A copy of this post is included in that eMail.

What does your bothering of random people with unsolicited long
emailed paranoid screeds have to do with newsservers, spammer?

NaN> Finally, you have never grasped the concept of Usenet hierarchies
NaN> and thus built yourself a whole unique "mantrap".

What does your unsubstantiated allegation have to do with newsservers,
murphy?

NaN> <alt.*> is reserved for "anarchy", anything goes, on the face of
NaN> it.

Classic pontification.

NaN> Not so in the rec,comp,sci and free hierarchies you choose to
NaN> play the *same* way in as you do the<alt.*>.

How ironic, coming as it does from someone who keeps posting off-topic
paranoid screeds to rec.* and comp.*.

NaN> Time will sort you out on that Usenet reality, Paul.. I trust you
NaN> have the stamina to withstand the lessons.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

NaN> Do carry on, Paul.. I fully understand you will not grasp any of
NaN> this post as "news".

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

NaN> The bit all look at first... the End.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> More than 7(seven) years I have been subscribed to AFN, seen Good
NaN> Guys come and go, outnumbered ten to one by the quantity of Bad
NaN> Guys done in, persuaded to "move on, Sunshine". That's all it
NaN> takes, a few positively motivated persons holding to the ideology
NaN> Usenet is for everyone, Free... as in Freedom.

How ironic, coming as it does from someone intent on bullying numerous
other people into adopting ludicrous restrictions on their From
headers (restrictions that would even make it impossible for anyone
else to easily tell them apart from one another!).

NaN> Not to be surrendered to the very few individuals who
NaN> believe it is their Right to impinge on others Rights, Rights
NaN> understood and upheld _by the majority_.

How ironic.

NaN> I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
NaN> to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
NaN> subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
NaN> cooperation expected in return for what has been many thousands
NaN> of hours of work.

What does your "volunteering" to pollute usenet with vulgarity,
paranoid screeds, and other low-value "content", usually crossposted
where it's off-topic, have to do with newsservers, murphy? Surely you
don't think that your wasting "thousands of hours" on generating your
noise and pestering various news server admins with large volumes of
frivolous complaints actually *entitles* you to anything other than
possibly a knuckle sandwich, murphy?

NaN> I note most of those I joined with are either deceased, severely
NaN> disabled, or plain ole' MIA.. now it is my Time.

Famous Last Words.

NaN> Yet in true Usenet tradition I do not go quietly, nor without
NaN> purpose.

What does your noisemaking have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> Other social mediums are not for me, Usenet is all there is
NaN> buuuut I can no longer contribute at a pace required to deliver
NaN> the likes of Paul Derbysh!re on a plate.

Who is "Paul Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> Thus it is I jump to the Dark Side, to work at my leisure,

What does your vague threat have to do with newsservers, murphy? Be
aware that while the law will generally turn a blind eye to one more
lunatic posting off-topic paranoid screeds on Usenet, murphy, it will
come down on you hard if you start dabbling in hacking or similar
crimes.

NaN> leaving whomsoever is able to to deal with the twin problems of
NaN> ES.org and AIOE.org in sorting themselves out.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that either of those
need "sorting out" have to do with binaries, murphy?

NaN> Always remember, none of this is about Derbysh!re..

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias. And what does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous
claim have to do with newsservers, murphy? It's quite clear that your
post is indeed about "Derbysh!re", and indeed that that person, if he
even exists, has become the singular object of a truly scary level of
obsessive fixation on your part in recent months, murphy.

NaN> it is about how one person can orchestrate problems for everyone
NaN> when administration of NNTP servers is not a priority of the
NaN> owner/operator.

How ironic.

NaN> Google Groups, Teranews, Shared-Secrets, BubbaNews, Octanews,
NaN> and today, AIOE.org... are *all* examples of poor adminstration,
NaN> bringing them to "rogue server" status.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

NaN> Folks can use that, and will.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

NaN> My first post as "murphy".

What does your nym-shifting have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> MID: <h2bjon$vt...@news.eternal-september.org>
NaN> You just read my last.

Famous Last Words.

I wonder what nym you'll be posting as tomorrow, murphy?

(We now know. ShinyNewBall is one of *several* shiny new nyms he's
using.)

NaN> I have emailed Wolfgang requesting my ES accounts be cancelled.

No doubt you'll also be creating new ones, murphy.

NaN> Regardless I will make sure they are cancelled.

Famous Last Words.

NaN> Wolfgang has my uninhibited permission to publish whatever
NaN> content of eMails he wishes to rely on.

Who is "Wolfgang", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> I have shut-down the Keith Renske Yahoo.com box making it a
NaN> SpamHole.

Who is "Keith Renske", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The phlatarse @fm box will always reject Spam (ask ReLF, it was I
NaN> who handed he that tip when he first rocked into AFN - big
mistake
NaN> I made) but Fastmail.FM boxes shut down on auto-block after 40
NaN> days of inactivity anyways.

What do Fastmail.FM boxes have to do with newsservers, murphy?

NaN> For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
NaN> you severe Tinnitus in your dreams.

How ironic, when you yourself think you see "Derbysh!re" in every
newbie, under every rock, and lurking near every shadow, murphy.

NaN> For those who know me well (eMail, whatever) and
NaN> see me, know I will be smiling also. It is to you I say "adieu
NaN> mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs] for all the Good Times!
NaN> May you and yours always bear well with all Life brings you".

Classic insincerity.

NaN> /0ut

Famous Last Word.

NaN> "murphy"+"news in service"+"Flash=AE"+Vinny Lingiari's Cousin
NaN> +"wu=AEm" 2003 - 2011 [all formerly - phlatArse (pA)]

Famous Last Words.

7th Earl of Lucan

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who hollered "INCOMING"????

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