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3006 Dead
May 21, 2012, 10:24:38 PM5/21/12
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House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light of
new video
By Eric W. Dolan
Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
Topics: governor walker ♦ scott walker
Democrats on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform have
asked Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) to obtain a clarification from
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R).
During a congressional testimony last year, Walker had denied that his
actions in Wisconsin were used to punish members of the Democratic Party
and their donor base, namely unions. But recently released video of the
governor appears to contradict his testimony.
“This new video raises serious questions about the veracity of Governor
Walker’s testimony before our Committee, in which he repeatedly described
his decision to strip public sector union workers of collective
bargaining rights in purely economic terms,” Reps. Elijah Cummings,
Gerald Connolly and Chris Murphy wrote in a letter. “Instead, this video
suggests that his motivation was to ‘divide and conquer’ public sector
unions in order to turn Wisconsin into a ‘completely red state.’”
Before he introduced legislation to strip public employees of collective
bargaining rights, he promised a billionaire donor that he would use a
“divide and conquer” strategy to bust unions, a newly released video
revealed.
In the video shot by documentary filmmaker Brad Lichtenstein on Jan. 18,
2011, billionaire Diane Hendricks asks Walker if he would make Wisconsin
a “completely red state, and work on these unions, and become a right-to-
work?”
“Oh, yeah,” Walker replied. “Well, we’re going to start in a couple weeks
with our budget adjustment bill. The first step is we’re going to deal
with collective bargaining for all public employees, use divide and
conquer.”
Hendricks went on to give the governor’s campaign $510,000. That makes
makes her not only Walker’s biggest donor, but the biggest donor to any
candidate in Wisconsin’s history, according to the Milwaukee Journal
Sentinel.
new video
By Eric W. Dolan
Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT
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Democrats on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform have
asked Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) to obtain a clarification from
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R).
During a congressional testimony last year, Walker had denied that his
actions in Wisconsin were used to punish members of the Democratic Party
and their donor base, namely unions. But recently released video of the
governor appears to contradict his testimony.
“This new video raises serious questions about the veracity of Governor
Walker’s testimony before our Committee, in which he repeatedly described
his decision to strip public sector union workers of collective
bargaining rights in purely economic terms,” Reps. Elijah Cummings,
Gerald Connolly and Chris Murphy wrote in a letter. “Instead, this video
suggests that his motivation was to ‘divide and conquer’ public sector
unions in order to turn Wisconsin into a ‘completely red state.’”
Before he introduced legislation to strip public employees of collective
bargaining rights, he promised a billionaire donor that he would use a
“divide and conquer” strategy to bust unions, a newly released video
revealed.
In the video shot by documentary filmmaker Brad Lichtenstein on Jan. 18,
2011, billionaire Diane Hendricks asks Walker if he would make Wisconsin
a “completely red state, and work on these unions, and become a right-to-
work?”
“Oh, yeah,” Walker replied. “Well, we’re going to start in a couple weeks
with our budget adjustment bill. The first step is we’re going to deal
with collective bargaining for all public employees, use divide and
conquer.”
Hendricks went on to give the governor’s campaign $510,000. That makes
makes her not only Walker’s biggest donor, but the biggest donor to any
candidate in Wisconsin’s history, according to the Milwaukee Journal
Sentinel.
David Hartung
May 22, 2012, 7:23:15 AM5/22/12
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Constitutional oversight of a sitting state governor.
the kenyan kreep
May 22, 2012, 8:03:20 AM5/22/12
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No it doesnt, it doesnt show anything
3006 Dead
May 22, 2012, 9:37:03 AM5/22/12
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investigate, and if he has broken federal law, turn it over to Justice.
JLS
May 22, 2012, 9:40:55 AM5/22/12
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felony.
David Hartung
May 22, 2012, 9:44:13 AM5/22/12
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not the Congress?
3006 Dead
May 22, 2012, 10:13:34 AM5/22/12
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David Hartung
May 22, 2012, 10:49:22 AM5/22/12
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California legislature.
Fred E Brown
May 22, 2012, 5:51:01 PM5/22/12
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"JLS" <jls...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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just like Obama does.
Fred E Brown
May 22, 2012, 5:53:02 PM5/22/12
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"3006 Dead" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message
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Fred E Brown
May 22, 2012, 5:55:02 PM5/22/12
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"the kenyan kreep" <ret...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> No it doesnt, it doesnt show anything
Include relevant text when replying, nobody know what the fuck you're
talking about
3006 Dead
May 22, 2012, 6:05:09 PM5/22/12
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war. If a state government is violating the rights of its citizenry, it
has a right to step in.
In this instance, though, it's a bit more basic: Walker lied under oath
to Congress. They are asking the Judiciary Committee to investigate if
he committed a felony.
3006 Dead
May 22, 2012, 6:23:27 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:51:01 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
> "JLS" <jls...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "JLS" <jls...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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they go along.
Foxtrot
May 22, 2012, 11:05:48 PM5/22/12
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greedy unions down. But they've got nothing so all they can is beg
Issa to "obtain a clarification" from Walker. He'll tell them to FOAD.
Walker will probably defeat the recall. What will libs do then? Find a
liberal judge so they can defy voters and state law. Just like they always
do. Rules and laws don't apply to them.
David Hartung
May 22, 2012, 11:44:43 PM5/22/12
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The democrats in this forum gave him a complete pass. Now those same
Democrats want to charge a sitting governor for supposedly lying to a
house committee?
3006 Dead
May 23, 2012, 1:29:37 AM5/23/12
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to a grand jury? I can't remember a sitting US president ever appearing
before a grand jury, let alone lying to one.
JLS
May 23, 2012, 2:27:07 AM5/23/12
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deponent made a fool of the attorney who cross-examined him. I
watched the lawyer admit to it just the other night on PBS.
Gary DW
May 23, 2012, 2:57:59 AM5/23/12
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In article <e9kor7lr7i2cp2t4r...@4ax.com>,
Foxtrot says...
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> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> It appears that House Democrats do not realize that they have no
> >>> Constitutional oversight of a sitting state governor.
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> >> Actually, yes, they do. Oh, they can't fire him, but they can
> >> investigate, and if he has broken federal law, turn it over to Justice.
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> >I see your point, but wouldn't that be the job of the State legislature,
> >not the Congress?
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> The Dems will throw everything they've got at Walker for slapping the
> greedy unions down. But they've got nothing so all they can is beg
> Issa to "obtain a clarification" from Walker. He'll tell them to FOAD.
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> Walker will probably defeat the recall.
50/50 at best.
> What will libs do then?
Prolly hold his feet to the fire his promise to stop
being such an asshole.
Find a
> liberal judge so they can defy voters and state law. Just like they always
> do. Rules and laws don't apply to them.
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Projection king.
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-Gary
And Mike Lofgren, a veteran Republican congressional
staffer, wrote an anguished diatribe last year about why
he was ending his career on the Hill after nearly three
decades. ?The Republican Party is becoming less and less
like a traditional political party in a representative
democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or
one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties
of 20th century Europe,? he wrote on the Truthout Web
site.
Foxtrot says...
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> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> It appears that House Democrats do not realize that they have no
> >>> Constitutional oversight of a sitting state governor.
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> >> Actually, yes, they do. Oh, they can't fire him, but they can
> >> investigate, and if he has broken federal law, turn it over to Justice.
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> >I see your point, but wouldn't that be the job of the State legislature,
> >not the Congress?
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> The Dems will throw everything they've got at Walker for slapping the
> greedy unions down. But they've got nothing so all they can is beg
> Issa to "obtain a clarification" from Walker. He'll tell them to FOAD.
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> Walker will probably defeat the recall.
> What will libs do then?
being such an asshole.
Find a
> liberal judge so they can defy voters and state law. Just like they always
> do. Rules and laws don't apply to them.
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-Gary
And Mike Lofgren, a veteran Republican congressional
staffer, wrote an anguished diatribe last year about why
he was ending his career on the Hill after nearly three
decades. ?The Republican Party is becoming less and less
like a traditional political party in a representative
democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or
one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties
of 20th century Europe,? he wrote on the Truthout Web
site.
JLS
May 23, 2012, 2:23:36 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 5:51 pm, "Fred E Brown" <fredebr...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "JLS" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Bwaaaaahahahaaa! OK. Lying under oath is perjury, a felony, except
if a Republican governor does it.
> "JLS" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
if a Republican governor does it.
David Hartung
May 23, 2012, 6:49:26 AM5/23/12
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whether or not he could be impeached for his lies?
3006 Dead
May 23, 2012, 11:25:18 AM5/23/12
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didn't have grounds to charge him with perjury, and the Senate acquitted
him of the lesser charge of lying.
Why can't you be honest for once? Especially when you're whining about
someone else lying?
David Hartung
May 23, 2012, 11:31:49 AM5/23/12
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Just for the record, if it can be shown that Walker lied to Congress, I
would support whatever action the law allows. Just as I supported
Clinton's impeachment for lying.
When can we expect such consistency from you?
3006 Dead
May 23, 2012, 1:34:53 PM5/23/12
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finding any president--or any politician at all--who never lies.
Politicians do lie and if you can't grasp that, then you aren't fit to
discuss politics.
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> Just for the record, if it can be shown that Walker lied to Congress, I
> would support whatever action the law allows. Just as I supported
> Clinton's impeachment for lying.
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In Walker's case, we have him on video boasting of doing exactly what he
told Congress he wasn't doing. Of course, you've got Darryl Issa as head
of House Ethics, and there's a complete moral bankrupt right there.
Salty Stan
May 23, 2012, 2:39:17 PM5/23/12
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On May 22, 6:05 pm, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:53:02 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
> > "3006 Dead" <d...@gone.com> wrote in message
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:53:02 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
Salty Stan
May 23, 2012, 2:40:55 PM5/23/12
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On May 22, 6:05 pm, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:53:02 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
> > "3006 Dead" <d...@gone.com> wrote in message
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Democrats don't consider perjury a crime.
Except maybe when another Democrat does it.
Salty Stan
May 23, 2012, 2:42:13 PM5/23/12
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On May 22, 11:44 pm, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
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Steve
May 23, 2012, 4:31:34 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:18 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
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>On Wed, 23 May 2012 05:49:26 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>> On 05/23/2012 12:29 AM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:44:43 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>>>> On 05/22/2012 05:05 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:53:02 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
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>>>>>> "3006 Dead"<de...@gone.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:jpg6uc$7ul$7...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:44:13 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 05/22/2012 08:37 AM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in
>>>>>>>>>>> light of new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31
>>>>>>>>>>> EDT Print Share on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on
>>>>>>>>>>> twitterShare on farkShare on stumbleupon0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
>>>>>>>>>>> Topics: governor walker ? scott walker
...and yet Clinton lied...
>Why can't you be honest for once? Especially when you're whining about
>someone else lying?
Irony anyone?
So here we have Zepp lying in an attempt to cover up
his previous stupid claim about capital gains.
"I've never claimed that listing cap gains on a 1040
will put you in jail, only that trying to list them
at a lower rate would."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson Aug 5 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/1634d84e583d3c46?hl=en&
....but here is, in fact, where he made the very
claim he denies he ever made........
"If Nevermore tries paying cap gains with a 1040, he'll
be in jail soon enough."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, Dec 3, 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/30fdaff423e2029b?hl=en&
wrote:
>On Wed, 23 May 2012 05:49:26 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>> On 05/23/2012 12:29 AM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:44:43 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:53:02 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
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>>>>>> "3006 Dead"<de...@gone.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:jpg6uc$7ul$7...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 08:44:13 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 05/22/2012 08:37 AM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in
>>>>>>>>>>> light of new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31
>>>>>>>>>>> EDT Print Share on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on
>>>>>>>>>>> twitterShare on farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>>>>>>>>>>> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
>Why can't you be honest for once? Especially when you're whining about
>someone else lying?
So here we have Zepp lying in an attempt to cover up
his previous stupid claim about capital gains.
"I've never claimed that listing cap gains on a 1040
will put you in jail, only that trying to list them
at a lower rate would."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson Aug 5 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/1634d84e583d3c46?hl=en&
....but here is, in fact, where he made the very
claim he denies he ever made........
"If Nevermore tries paying cap gains with a 1040, he'll
be in jail soon enough."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson, Dec 3, 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/30fdaff423e2029b?hl=en&
Steve
May 23, 2012, 4:55:26 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:23:27 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
"Electricity in California was a publically-held utility (i.e.,
government-run) from 1895 until 1998. It took privatization
of the generation plants to fuck everything up
beyond belief."
David (Zepp) Jamieson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/3ad9a56512ac8e2e?hl=en
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>On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:51:01 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
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>> "JLS" <jls...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:24300b82-9ddc-4d2c-a24f-
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>> On May 22, 9:37 am, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
>>> > On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> >> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light
>>> >> of new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print
>>> >> Share on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare
>>> >> on farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>>> >> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
>>> >> Topics: governor walker ? scott walker
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:51:01 -0500, Fred E Brown wrote:
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>> "JLS" <jls...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:24300b82-9ddc-4d2c-a24f-
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>> On May 22, 9:37 am, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
>>> > On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> >> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light
>>> >> of new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print
>>> >> Share on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare
>>> >> on farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>>> >> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
government-run) from 1895 until 1998. It took privatization
of the generation plants to fuck everything up
beyond belief."
David (Zepp) Jamieson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/3ad9a56512ac8e2e?hl=en
Steve
May 23, 2012, 4:55:26 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 13:37:03 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>> On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light of
>>> new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print Share
>>> on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare on
>>> farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>>> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
>>> Topics: governor walker ? scott walker
In other words, they cannot deal with him in any other way than how
they can deal with any other citizen... just as David said, they have
wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
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>> On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>>> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light of
>>> new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print Share
>>> on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare on
>>> farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>>> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
they can deal with any other citizen... just as David said, they have
Steve
May 23, 2012, 4:55:26 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:40:55 -0700 (PDT), JLS <jls...@bellsouth.net>
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>On May 22, 9:37 am, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
>> > On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>> >> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light of
>> >> new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print Share
>> >> on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare on
>> >> farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>> >> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
>> >> Topics: governor walker ? scott walker
...and there's no way he can be proven to have lied...
wrote:
>On May 22, 9:37 am, 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 06:23:15 -0500, David Hartung wrote:
>> > On 05/21/2012 09:24 PM, 3006 Dead wrote:
>> >> House Democrats calls for Gov. Walker to clarify testimony in light of
>> >> new video By Eric W. Dolan Monday, May 21, 2012 19:31 EDT Print Share
>> >> on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare on
>> >> farkShare on stumbleupon0
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>> >> Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R). Photo: Megan McCormick.
Liberal Here
May 23, 2012, 4:58:28 PM5/23/12
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question that allowed him to legitimately answer "no". You just didn't
like his answer.
Furthermore, what legitimate reason was there for the question, let
alone any grand jury? After all, the judge in whose courtroom the case
was tried, threw out the case as having no supporting evident despite
that judge deciding to fine the defendant for not answering in the
affirmative. Her argument? She said the defendant was the president of
the United States and a lawyer....he knew what the *REAL* question
was. He shoulda' answered what the plaintiff's lawyer meant to ask.
Even if Clinton had admitted to the affair with Lewinski, the judge
would have still thrown the case out. Her written judgment indicates
my conclusion.
Again, Hartung, you prove your type of "christianity" is much closer
to White Power christianity than the stated catholic church's concept
of gentleness. (Which hired a guy who fought to keep Hitler in power.
Go figure.)
Liberal Here
May 23, 2012, 5:08:58 PM5/23/12
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slaves.
Liberal Here
May 23, 2012, 5:07:58 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 11:31 am, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
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You may be surprised. Try to understand: in a legal case you answer
the question asked, not what you think or know the questioner asked.
Think of it this way: Let's say you stole your parish's money on
Tuesday, but the prosecuting attorney asks you if you stole the money
on Wednesday. What's smart feller like you gonna say?
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> Just for the record, if it can be shown that Walker lied to Congress, I
> would support whatever action the law allows. Just as I supported
> Clinton's impeachment for lying.
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> When can we expect such consistency from you?
and logic.
I suppose you've always been honest about your sexual activities when
asked. Don't use the fact that you've never been in a legal action
regarding them. The 10 commandments don't limit lying to legal cases
only.
Have you ever had sexual relations with a man, a boy, a girl, a woman
not your wife???
David Hartung
May 24, 2012, 3:01:47 AM5/24/12
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On 05/23/2012 04:07 PM, Liberal Here wrote:
> On May 23, 11:31 am, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>> So it is OK for a democrat sitting president to lie?
>
> Prove he lied. Post both the question and the answer.
Sorry, this is something which was thoroughly discussed when it was
> On May 23, 11:31 am, David Hartung<da...@hotmaiil.com> wrote:
>> So it is OK for a democrat sitting president to lie?
>
> Prove he lied. Post both the question and the answer.
going on, and even Democrats admitted that President Clinton perjured
himself. I have no intention of discussing it again. You are being
dishonest, end of discussion.
Slackfest
May 24, 2012, 7:46:07 AM5/24/12
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On 5/24/2012 2:01 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>
> On 05/23/2012 04:07 PM, Liberal Here wrote:
>>
>> On May 23, 11:31 am, David Hartung rhetorically asked:
>
> On 05/23/2012 04:07 PM, Liberal Here wrote:
>>
-->
>>> So it is OK for a democrat sitting president to lie?
>>
>> Prove he lied. Post both the question and the answer.
>
> Sorry, this is something which was thoroughly discussed
So, you're too intellectually dishonest and/or lazy to put
>>
>> Prove he lied. Post both the question and the answer.
>
> Sorry, this is something which was thoroughly discussed
up the answers that would required to prove your rhetoric?
You even claimed this..
> and even Democrats admitted that President Clinton perjured
> himself.
nor could the right-wing political witch-hunt at the time..
> I have no intention of discussing it again
--Which we both know you're too dishonest to even begin to do..
3006 Dead
May 24, 2012, 9:23:11 AM5/24/12
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Aren't you supposed to be a pastor or some sort of shit like that? What
kind of propaganda reduces a guy sworn to uphold virtue into a party hack
here to sell lies?
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