Actually they know what " BL is about". Money and vanity. Not about
Jesus Christ.
Any responsible church board would before inviting someone like
Larson in their premises would check out the guy's reputation. Most
Christian churches frown upon the fornications he did while at BLM
while claiming to be Christian, and they would not be pleased when at
one point Larson DEFILED a church altar by putting his crap on it on
display for sale. There is far too much easily available online about
the REAL: Bob Larson for any responsible church leader to allow him on
their premises, ever.
Deal with that KSIC. You can BS and whitewash as much as you want,
spinning it in your bad PR act, but the facts still remain the same.
Ken Smith, for all his faults ( and he did have a few), was spot on
about Larson, so much so that YOU still have to use his name as part
of your nym, which I find amusing.
Larson burned a number of his bridges to various Christian
broadcasting venues, including the 700 Club when he did that
notoriously bad taste pseudo-MIB act. Gosh has Bobbie been asked back
to that show? Instead the best Larson can hope for NOW is being on
what is commonly called the kook conspiracy radio show " Coast to
Coast AM", which advocates things no born again Christian would
approve of. When not even the Crouches want you, you've seriously hit
bottom in Christian broadcasting. :-D
> They don't get what the mission of the Ministry is
> about.
Actually they do, Money and to promote Bob Larson.
Interesting note: The same claims you are making concerning Larson
sound a lot like the same "exclusiveness" justifications various CULT
LEADERS use. Like, for example, certain American Krishna cult leaders
did as described in " Monkey on a Stick".
Not surprising as Larson himself has ironically become a CULT leader,
considering his boastings about being the "foremost authority on cults
and the occult."
>Quite frankly, they're too chicken.
Or, more honestly, they don't want the fraud in their churches.
Protecting their flock from a wolf in sheep's clothing.
> They want to be coddled.
> They'll often say, "Oh we can't do that. We don't want to offend
> anyone." And much like Maureen, they are clearly ignorant to basic
> Bible doctrine.
Nice snap, KSIC,but as usual for you, more of an attempt to cover
what I HAVE been saying that does apply to Larson. I don't need to be
a Bible scholar to know, for example, that Larson's crap about a "300
generational curse" flat out CONTRADICTS what the BIBLE DOES SAY. I
don't need to be a seminary school graduate to know that much of what
Larson teaches not only is contrary to sound Christian doctrine but is
also distortions of scripture and blatant fear mongering to keep his
followers thinking their only avenue is Larson.
I get it when I posted that long list of biblical verses about false
teachers that it hit the bull's eye, right KSIC?
> If there was ever a punchline to the joke "What does
> a nutty Pagan and a group of spineless Christians have in common?"
> that would be it!
Call me what you wish, but I do thank you for calling Christians
spineless. Aside from the legitimate minister on HNN calling Bob
Larson's teachings unbiblical ( which they are), I, like Ken Smith,
find it frustrating that Christians do not clean out the frauds, the
liars, the leeches on the Body of Christ but do the "let God judge"
crap excuse while the bastards continue their harm to people and in
the process drive people away from Jesus. And I know of a number of
instances where Christians should have come to the defense of non-
Christians but don't do so.
But I will say this, as I have before, that I've come to realize that
frauds like Larson, Mike Warnke, Hal Lindsy ,etc., do not represent
REAL followers of Jesus Christ and never will. The public posturing
pissant Pharisees do nothing regarding what Jesus taught His followers
to DO while the real followers of Jesus Christ are in the homeless
shelters, food pantries, and wherever else compassion and aid to the
less fortunate is needed.
It is these people, people who have a love for Jesus in their hearts,
a love and compassion they SELFLESSLY share to others without
preaching or requiring the hurting people to convert first, these are
what real Christianity SHOULD be about. Not Bob Larson. Not Pat
Robertson. Not the Van Impes.
Many who think they are followers of Jesus Christ are lead astray by
false teachers like Bobbie Larson. Like lambs to the slaughter, they
follow the Judas goat ( Larson) without question.
>
> >You also forgot to mention that his
> > various attempts to regain being on TV with his own shows have ended
> > in failures, including after the Crouches got tired of his crap on
> > their station and dumped him unceremoniously.
>
> You forgot to mention that BL left them. Too many internal problems
> at that network, as well as Paul's personal demons made it easy for BL
> to divest himself from that mess.
Really? Nothing about the fact that Larson's show was so bad,
ratings wise, that it was often bumped for more better revenue shows?
Or that your " In the Name of Satan" TV show was so stinking BAD that
you couldn't even get enough people to sit in the "audience"?
Oh, BTW if Paul Crouch has " personal demons" why didn't Larson, the
"real exorcist" cast them out for him?
(( smirks))
>
> >You forgot his " Real
> > Exorcist" " reality" series in the UK was canceled due to viewers
> > complaints,
>
> That's news to me. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Not news and you damn well know it. Quit the innocent act. I posted
the details online, including web addies, some years ago.
Oh BTW KSIC, thanks for focusing on this. You would have better
served Bobbie Larson's interests by keeping quiet until after the
various TV crap has been aired. But noooo...... :-D
It's just so FUNNY that you're helping me this way!! You know how
real journalists are, when they get a hint something is not what was
presented to them, they start digging for the truth.
By your own admission on the Facebook Bob Larson is a Fraud group, you
acknowledge that I am an authority on Bobbie E. Larson.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bob-Larson-Is-A-Fraud/171748786186422
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Kensmithis Cool For someone who has made a full-time job out of
stalking BL for 26 years, I would expect you to accurately know who BL
is and what the mission of the Ministry is all about.
27 May at 16:54 ·
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Your own words KSICkie.
How does it feel to be Larson's worst enemy, KSIC?
> The UK has
> always been good to BL. Did you happen to read the recent Fabulous
> piece? You know, the UK's most read magazine. Over 4 million
> readers!
Where Bobbie whores Brynne as his version of Buffy the Vampire
Slayer? How Larson shows himself to be an irresponsible parent and
shows an ickly side to him regarding the teenage girls? Meanwhile you
bitched to me about how Inside Edition supposedly threatened the
safety of your wife and kids. Hypocrite much Bobbie?
>
> > And as much as he tries to claim otherwise, his " foremost authority"
> > claims about himself have no basis in reality and in fact he hasn't
> > been cited as a credible reference on other religions, cults and the
> > occult in the last 15 years!
>
> Let's see...
>
> Bob Larson is a demon slayer!”
> The Learning Channel TV documentary
If so, then where are the demon corpses?
(( rest of self serving PR BS media spin deleted))
>
> Maureen, where_have_you_been?!
Always here Bobbie. Waiting for you to man up and stop hiding behind
your anonymizer, .meet me on Skype or or Yahoo chat and "cast out my
demons" as you claim I have and would do.
You damn well know as I do that a lot of what you cited is taken out
of context to the actual broadcasts and that the various shows have
this weasely caveats about your methods and practices so as to not
offend the fools that believe in demon possession, etc. You also know
that the packaged PR crap you send them is designed so that their
ignorance of the subject ( and many are ignorant of the specifics of
you and the "deliverance ministry" scam you do) is to your advantage.
The knee-jerk accusation of being " anti-Christian" is what these
pseudo-journalistic wimps try to avoid, while at the same time these
bastards see no problem calling Pagans kooks or fringe.
.
>
> > I have seen various web sites related to Christians telling people
> > Larson is an apostate and is not recommended to be allowed in their
> > churches. I have accounts from various people who have told details of
> > their experiences concerning Bob Larson and the aftermaths of what
> > happened, none of which are of credit to Larson or his DWJD team
> > people.
>
> > Larson's favorite slogan is " doing what Jesus did" which ironically
> > and sadly he does not do. Whatever actual generosity or benevolence
> > that does happen at his ironically named " Spiritual Freedom Church"
> > goes on IN SPITE Of Larson not BECAUSE OF Larson. Assuming OC any
> > actually does happen at his Scottsdale church.
>
> This looks a lot like the anti-bl campaign form letter you've recently
> e-mailed to some friends :)
Really? I emailed something? Mind posting said email " campaign"?
Gee Bobbie, while I can be legitimately be given credit for some
things, I would like to get credit where credit is actually due. If
someone else is doing an anti BL campaign email letter blitz, I sure
would like to know about it. After all I'm not like you, taking credit
for things you did not actually do... :->
Oh wait, maybe its my " demonic double" like Larson claimed he had
some years ago pretending to be him. Probably after being seen coming
out of Denver porno shops at that time.
Or it could be some angelic intervention helping get the word out
about you.
Well, whoever it is, huzzah to them.
>
> > To go back to your claim, no matter how much Larson tries to use
> > heavy doses of rose scented air freshener, he can't cover up the
> > stench of his factual past.
>
> Speaking of stench, have you given daddy Frank his bath yet tonight?
> Or is tonight his turn to bathe you?
Ad hom noted. Nice " Christian". Isn't there something about what
comes out of your mouth not defiling the Jesus that supposedly resides
in your heart? But then you serve your master Satan very well.
Oh wait, here's one web site about Christians and vulgar speeck:
http://www.insearchoftruth.org/articles/language.html
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A Christian's speech reveals more of his inward character than any
other action. In fact, it often betrays our true, inward man:
"Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the
tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. Brood of
vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the
abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good
treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of
the evil treasure brings forth evil things." (Matthew 12:33-35)
One may try to conceal his thoughts, but eventually, his words will
show his heart, because our words proceed from our hearts. It is for
this very reason that we have so much trouble trying to control our
tongues, just as James says:
For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in
word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. ... But
no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly
poison. With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men,
who have been made in the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth
proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to
be so. Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same
opening? Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear
figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh. (James 3:2-12)
Even though we may try to be mature, we often slip and speak in ways,
which we know to be wrong. "Why does our tongue slip?", you may ask.
Since we speak from our heart, only a perfect heart can speak
perfectly, which is what James explained above. Only a person who has
complete control over the thoughts of his heart can ever expect to
achieve mastery over his tongue. However, does that mean we should
give up on this seemingly hopeless task? Certainly not (Philippians
4:13 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). If Christians'
hearts are truly being transformed into something not of this earth,
then our speech will reflect that growth and metamorphosis (Romans
12:1-2 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Furthermore,
if we have been truly baptized, then we have put to death the old man
and his wicked ways, which necessitates that we have truly repented.
Therefore, we may stumble, but we must continue to try to do better
(Romans 6:1-6 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ; I John
2:1-6 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Consequently,
our speech should manifest a person growing to have his mind entirely
focused on the world to come.
The Bible discusses at least four categories of inappropriate
language:
* cursing and reviling - speaking evil of another
* blasphemy and swearing - speaking evil, irreverently, or lightly
in regards to God
* vulgarity and innuendo - speaking with crude language of
inappropriate topics, such as sexuality, physiology
* lying and forswearing - speaking dishonestly or deceitfully, and
using false oaths
The last category will be reserved for a future study, but in this
article, we wish to consider the first three categories of speech,
which is unfitting for Christians.
Cursing and Reviling
Cursing and reviling generally refer to speaking evil of someone.
Cursing is an intense form of language, where one typically invokes
God or other supernatural forces to call evil down on someone else. It
is an expression of hatred, which is the primary root of the problem,
but it also manifests a loss of self-control, which is also in error.
Such language often brutally and violently injures the recipient,
which is the intent, whether by deliberation or neglect. Several
passages clearly condemn such language, and the hatred that it
reveals, as unfitting for a Christian:
"But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a
cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his
brother, 'Raca! [empty head - editor]' shall be in danger of the
council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell
fire. (Matthew 5:22)
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred,
contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions,
dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the
like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time
past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom
of God. (Galatians 5:19-21)
Not only do these passages condemn such behavior, but they indicate
the eternal consequences of it - an inheritance of hell fire! It is
hard to find God's disapproval more clearly expressed in Scripture.
Yet, the same Scriptures also indicate that one can repent and find
forgiveness for this sin. Please do not forget that the apostle Peter
"cursed and swore" as he denied Jesus, but yet he found forgiveness
(Luke 22:31-34 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] , 54-62
[Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ; Mark 14:70-71 [Open in
Logos Bible Software (if available)] ), so there is hope for those
entangled in such sin.
Reviling is a related, but possibly less intense form of language,
which indicates a berating, abusive, insulting disposition. It may not
necessarily express hatred, but it certainly expresses frustration,
superiority, arrogance, and even contempt. It may be considered less
extreme only because it does not necessarily wish ill upon the
recipient. As an example of this, the words, which we are often
tempted to say as a person cuts us off in traffic, would be considered
reviling. Further examples would include: "chewing someone out",
"letting them have it" verbally, giving someone a "tongue lashing",
and name calling ("Idiot! Moron! Airhead!!", etc.).
Friends may sometime call each other names in a teasing way. Or, in a
different situation, the same words can be used to express frustration
and hurl insults as an effort to retaliate. Clearly, we all know the
difference between using such language in fun versus using it to hurt,
and therefore, we should not confuse the two in order to justify what
we know is inappropriate.
On other occasions, companions may confront each other, and as
emotions run high and desperation ensues, similar name calling and
insults may take place. Resorting to name calling is never
appropriate. Admittedly, Jesus did use the labels, "hypocrites",
"fools", and "blind" to rebuke the Pharisees (Matthew 23), but such
harsh language was only used in the best interest of the Pharisees,
who had hardened their hearts until they could not be reached by even
the most blunt of warnings (Matthew 23:37-39 [Open in Logos Bible
Software (if available)] ). Since Jesus may be the only person mature
enough to completely "tame the tongue", we should exercise great
caution in utilizing such judgmental language. If ever we employ such
tactics in a final rebuke, only to find such labels to be the
cornerstone of our argument (in other words, stringing one name after
another in long chains), or if we fail to base our arguments on
factual, historical evidence (unlike Jesus' solid basis - Matthew
23:6-9 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] , 14 [Open in
Logos Bible Software (if available)] , 16-23 [Open in Logos Bible
Software (if available)] , 29-36 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if
available)] ), then we must recognize that our rebuke has turned into
a personal assault. We must beware using an occasion for admonition as
an opportunity to vent our own personal wrath and condemnation,
because it will not achieve the desired goal - repentance (James
1:19-20 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ).
Like cursing, reviling is also clearly condemned in the Bible:
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom
of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom
of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were
sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and
by the Spirit of our God. (I Corinthians 6:9-11)
Therefore, let us each be careful not to show arrogance and contempt
to our brother by cursing or reviling him.
Blaspheming and Swearing
Just as cursing and reviling manifest disrespect of our fellow man,
blaspheming and swearing express irreverence and contempt for God.
Blasphemy is a more extreme expression of profanity, characterized by
speaking evil of God. This may be accomplished in many ways, some more
obvious than others. However, blasphemy is clearly condemned. Under
the Old Law blasphemy was punishable by death (Leviticus 24:11-16
[Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). The New Law does not
demand the immediate sentence of death; however, it is still
condemned:
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth:
fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness,
which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming
upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked
when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all
these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your
mouth. (Colossians 3:5-8)
"Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes
into the stomach and is eliminated? But those things which proceed out
of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. "For out of
the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications,
thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile
a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man." (Matthew
10:17-20)
Blasphemy may involve more than just saying bad things about God. It
also includes speaking evil of His works and the product of His hands.
Please recall that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit occurs when one
rejects or dismisses the Spirit's work of revealing and confirming
truth, attributing it to other non-divine sources (Mark 3:10-12 [Open
in Logos Bible Software (if available)] , 22-30 [Open in Logos Bible
Software (if available)] ; Hebrews 11:26-29 [Open in Logos Bible
Software (if available)] ). The Pharisees recognized that by claiming
the power to forgive sins, a power reserved for God, was a form of
blasphemy (Luke 5:20-26 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if
available)] ). In a similar way, whenever we judge those who were made
by God and seek to serve God, we are judging the One by whose hands
they were made, by whose law they strive to walk, and by whose mercy
they persevere (James 3:8-10 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if
available)] ; 4:11-12 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ;
Romans 14:3-4 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ; II Peter
3:9 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Finally, when we
complain about rampant wickedness or an apparent injustice, which God
allows to persist, we are again speaking evil of God by criticizing
His judgment. Therefore, we must be careful not to blaspheme, because
we may do so subtly, in ways that are not immediately obvious to us.
Now in regards to swearing, when one swears or takes an oath, he calls
God into witness, adjuring Him to testify to the truthfulness of a
statement. Although rarely stated, but always implied, one swears
against the penalty of calamity. It is commonly accepted that God will
not testify verbally, directly from heaven; therefore, the form of
witness must be providential, which act of God may fall upon ourself
or something we cherish. The thought often implied in an oath is
something like, "If I am not telling the truth, then may God strike me
dead!". Obviously, one would not heap such disaster upon his own head,
unless he really believed he was telling the truth, or unless he
believed that God did not care and would not do anything about his
lie.
Whether one irreverently puts God to the test by his trivial oath, or
if he simply calls out God's name in frequent, light, or unholy
manner, or if he attempts to back out on his oath to God, these forms
of swearing and blaspheming are all clearly condemned in Scripture.
Under the Old Law, such language was referred to as "taking the Lord's
name in vain" and bore the penalty of death (Exodus 20:7 [Open in
Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). One must be very careful in
how they approach God, whether by calling on His name, worshiping Him,
or invoking Him as witness:
Walk prudently when you go to the house of God; and draw near to
hear rather than to give the sacrifice of fools, for they do not know
that they do evil. Do not be rash with your mouth, And let not your
heart utter anything hastily before God. For God is in heaven, and you
on earth; Therefore let your words be few. For a dream comes through
much activity, And a fool's voice is known by his many words. When you
make a vow to God, do not delay to pay it; For He has no pleasure in
fools. Pay what you have vowed -- Better not to vow than to vow and
not pay. Do not let your mouth cause your flesh to sin, nor say before
the messenger of God that it was an error. Why should God be angry at
your excuse and destroy the work of your hands? (Ecclesiastes 5:1-6)
As we learn from the above passage, trivial oath taking is a dangerous
venture. God will hold us to our oaths. Yet, swearing can become so
trivial that people may not even realize what they are saying. Have
you ever known someone, who began ever other exclamation with the
phrase, "I swear ...!"? Christians are admonished to speak
consistently, such that our word will be sufficient without having to
swear:
"Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall
not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.' But I
say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God's
throne; nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem,
for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your
head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your
'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these
is from the evil one. (Matthew 5:33-37)
But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by
earth or with any other oath. But let your "Yes," be "Yes," and your
"No," "No," lest you fall into judgment. (James 5:12)
Therefore, let us take great caution when invoking the name of God,
because He sees, He hears, and He will act, and He will judge in His
own time.
Vulgarity and Innuendo
The final category under consideration is vulgarity and innuendo.
Again, we are considering both an extreme and milder form of the same
sin. Included in this category are: dirty jokes, sexual implications
and undertones, filthy language referring to bodily functions or
anatomy, and other inappropriate topics, which should not be publicly
or lightly discussed. Whereas vulgar speech contains direct and
explicit references, innuendo contains hints, winks, gestures, facial
expressions, and other subtle forms of communication, which quietly
express vulgar thoughts. It is this subtle vulgarity and crude speech
that makes up the vast majority of "adult humor", which often sails
over the heads of innocent and naive children. It is this language
that causes adults to wrinkle their mouths and snicker softly as
another hints at explicit themes without actually articulating them.
As before, we find that the Scriptures strongly condemn this type of
language:
Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. And walk in love,
as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and
a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma. But fornication and all
uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is
fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor
coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.
(Ephesians 5:1-4)
But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath,
malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. (Colossians 3:8)
A Christian is to have his mind set on higher, nobler, spiritual
things. Therefore such communication should not be appealing to him.
Neither, should it be something upon which he dwells and is therefore
even able to imagine, much less utter. Whether spoken directly, or
implied through innuendo, the ideas actually communicated by this
"filthy language" are the same and are therefore in error.
Slang and Euphemisms
Like the sexual or foul innuendo implied by veiled statements, slang
and euphemisms also convey inappropriate ideas. Similarly, they are
couched in more socially acceptable, or politically correct language.
By definition, a euphemism conveys harsh words or thoughts in a
softened form. For example, instead of speaking of a loved one's
death, we may say, "He passed away". Similarly, instead of saying,
"Oh, my God", one might say, "Oh, my gosh". In so doing, they are
merely substituting words so as to blaspheme or speak vulgarity
without technically uttering sin. Regardless, the idea has been
communicated. In fact, even the world recognizes the conveyed meaning.
Let us examine some of the more common slang expressions, as defined
by Webster's dictionary:
* gosh - Etymology: euphemism for God -- used as a mild oath or to
express surprise
* golly - Etymology: euphemism for God -- used as a mild oath or
to express surprise
* jeez - Etymology: euphemism for Jesus -- used as a mild oath or
introductory expletive (as to express surprise)
* crikey - Etymology: euphemism for Christ -- used as a mild oath
* darn - Etymology: euphemism for DAMNED
More could be listed, but these are sufficient to make our point: Many
common slang terms are merely euphemisms, or softened substitutes for
blasphemous language. Unfortunately, some people may not be aware of
the origin of these words and are therefore unaware of what they are
really saying. The lesson is that we should be careful of the language
we use to express surprise or displeasure. In fact, it would be wise
to consult a dictionary to see what we are really saying. Even if we
do not realize what we are saying, great damage and offense can be
generated, because others understand what these words mean. For
additional consideration, if one regularly and irreverently exclaimed,
"Oh, my God!", but did not know there really was one true God, would
that make it any less blasphemous? Although ignorance may cause us to
sympathize with such a sin, it does not however change the fact that
the words are blasphemous, even if the person was unaware of their
significance. Ultimately, it is the idea communicated to the minds of
other people that makes these words blasphemous, whether or not that
was our intention.
Finally, please consider that Christians do not need such words, or
any substitutes, to express extreme wrath or mild displeasure. Please
recall that "outbursts of wrath" are not to typify God's saints, while
"self-control and patience" are supposed to characterize Christians
(II Peter 1:5-6 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ).
Therefore, we should not allow ourselves to imagine that we must find
some word of exclamation.
The Solution
Most of the passages referenced above were not primarily intended to
address the topic of a Christian's speech. Most of these passages
focus on the transformation of the inner man. Our words are just one
way that we manifest the content of our heart and innermost thoughts.
Therefore, one will ultimately masters his tongue, not by a strict
adherence to a code, but rather by strictly conforming his heart to
the pattern of Christ. Our hearts must change before we can
realistically expect our words, which come out of hearts, to change.
Consequently, we must first focus on these passages' appeal to our
heart. If we completely accept them, by purifying our heart of
lustful, rebellious, arrogant, selfish thoughts, then we should have
no trouble in bridling our tongue. Therefore, let us reexamine some of
the above passages in their broader context to see the primary
emphasis, which reveals the solution to controlling our tongue:
If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are
above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Set your
mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died, and
your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life
appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. Therefore put to
death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness,
passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of
these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now
you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one
another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have
put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image
of Him who created him, (Colossians 3:1-10)
This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no
longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their
mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the
life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the
blindness of their heart; who, being past feeling, have given
themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and
have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off,
concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt
according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your
mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to
God, in true righteousness and holiness. ... Therefore be imitators of
God as dear children. And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us
and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
sweet-smelling aroma. But fornication and all uncleanness or
covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for
saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting,
which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. (Ephesians
4:17-5:4)
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred,
contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions,
dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the
like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time
past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom
of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace,
longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-
control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ's have
crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the
Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. (Galatians 5:19-25)
One of the practical ways that we do this is by ridding ourselves of
negative spiritual influences. Who, or what influences you to think
irreverent, vulgar thoughts? What pressures are exerted on you to
speak in a way that is not fitting for a Christian? Does your
selection of television shows exhibit godly speech? If not, change the
channel! If every channel is offensive, then turn the box off. In so
doing, you may feel like you have cut off your hand, or plucked out
your eye, but that is far better than the alternative (Matthew 5:29-30
[Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Are your friends
constantly speaking perverse things? If so, then ask them to change.
If they refuse, then find new friends (II Corinthians 6:14-7:1 [Open
in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). If it is books, internet,
radio - whatever the source of the negative influence, we must remove
it from our lives. Mature Christians do not allow temptation to grow
to full strength before resisting it. They eliminate the stumbling
block before it has an opportunity to trip them (Romans 13:14 [Open in
Logos Bible Software (if available)] ; I Thessalonians 5:22 [Open in
Logos Bible Software (if available)] ).
However, if we remove all the negative influences, but we do not fill
our lives with positive influences, then the negative influences will
return, and the end will be worse than the beginning (Luke 11:24-26
[Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Therefore, we must
dedicate time to Bible study, prayer, meditation, spiritual fellowship
with like-minded saints, good works, and other positive influences.
Paul offers this command as follows:
Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice! Let your
gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for
nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with
thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of
God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and
minds through Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatever things are
true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever
things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of
good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy -- meditate on these things. (Philippians 4:4-8)
Conclusion
We have examined three categories of inappropriate speech for the
Christian, which is condemned by the Bible: speaking evil of others,
speaking evil of God, and speaking vulgarity and filth. Not only is
this language denouced in Scriptures, but it further warns us that
this type of speech may cost us our soul. Ultimately, I personally
doubt that our language will be the primary reason that some people
will face eternity in hell. I doubt it will come to that. Because our
speech manifests our true heart, it is safe to expect a person with a
filthy, irreverent mouth to be guilty of far more devastating sins.
Therefore, if we struggle with this sin, we should examine our own
hearts, while we still have the chance, and find the root of this evil
thought - and then cast it out! Furthermore, we must fill that hole in
our minds with noble, spiritual, and holy thoughts.
Please do not forget that our words will ultimately judge us on the
last day:
"For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good
man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things,
and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But
I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give
account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be
justified, and by your words you will be condemned." (Matthew
12:34-37)
Our words not only manifest who we are, but the Lord will use them as
a basis for determining who we really are, and assigning the
appropriate reward!
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hoo boy if that is true KSICkie, you're in big doo-doo with
Jesus.....
>
> > I've noticed that after the devastating tornado in Joplin, a
> number
>
> > of churches organized relief efforts and came to help with the clean
> > ups and other aid for those people. In none of the stories about that
> > aspect of the subject that I have read has " Spiritual Freedom Church"
> > of Scottsdale Arizona been mentioned as part of the volunteer groups.
> > You are free, OC to prove me wrong.
>
> Gladly. One of the wonderful things about Spiritual Freedom Church
> International, Inc is the multitude of congregations around N.
> American and abroad who fellowship with SFCI, Inc. Yes, Missouri is
> covered :) Doors are being opened by SFCI, Inc. in the Name of
> Jesus. Why don't you ask Pastor Vivian for the details. :)
Why not prove where LARSON is PERSONALLY helping out? I specifically
asked about the Scottsdale Church Bob, not about your damn "
franchise". You have followers who independently do good works and you
try to get the credit for their efforts when you do nothing yourself.
Learn that Wal Mart?
>
h> Maureen, what have you done to lend a hand to those displaced by
the
> F5 tornado in Joplin?
A number of things, actually. I wasn't picked to find the remains of
those dead, thankfully, but I did my part. What I saw was heart
breaking. I didn't see Bobbie Larson there BTW.
>
> > > As the BLFCult learned to its chagrin, when one door closes for BL, 5
> > > more open. Now, care to explain why KS isn't a member of the Colorado
> > > Bar Association? You have the floor. . .
>
> > Long story, but in essence the Colorado Bar wimped out under pressure
> > form Larson and his lawyers to stack the deck against Smith.
>
> Nope. Wrong answer. Please drive-thru.
>
> > > It really isn't worth mentioning, since the Court of Appeals decision
> > > didn't harm BL one scintilla :)
>
> > It IS worth mentioning because Larson LOST that case. Afraid of the
> > whole TRUTH KSIC?
>
> That is the whole truth, Maureen.
No it is not.
>
> > Avoidance of the fact that Larson is persona non grata in most
> > American churches due to his adultery,his fornications, his lies,
> > greed, etc, noted.
>
> > Funny that some Pentecostal churches allow traveling " exorcists" but
> > not Larson......
>
> BL doesn't exactly see the point in dancing around with venomous
> snakes, mmmkay?
Nice South Park reference. Too bad you didn't know squat about
Spiderman when 'exorcised" "Stanley" in Austin some years ago.
Charismatic churches don't allow Larson either.
>
> > Avoidance of mentioning the required admittance FEE noted.
>
> The seminars are free. Even you can afford that.
No they are not free. There is an admittance fee required.
>
> > And, may I add, avoidance of why he resorted to hotel conference
> > rooms AFTER the various "free admission" venues where certain various
> > events happened
>
> [!?]
Short memory Bobbie? This was before you once again renivented
yourself in the " spiritual freedom" "real exorcist" scams. Remember
the notoriously bad " Satanism Symposium" you did where a local Pagan
group and Officer Kerr Cuhulain attended? Or did you once again
conveniently forget how you were bested by both of them?
>
> The conference rooms have always been free admission, Maureen. I know
> that it would be a bit much to ask you to pull your head out of your
> ass for a few moments,
Oh WOW CUSSING!!!
Golly gee " Christian" such vulgarity from a " man of god"! Not to
mention another ad hom. See above about Christianis and vulgarity
coming from their mouths and written words.
KSIC you have challenged me twice before to meet you through Skype. I
accepted your challenge and both times you backed off. So WHO is the
one REALLY hiding? Sure isn't me, coward.
You have said before I have demons yet you refuse to come with me to
a private Yahoo chatroom so you can "cast them out" of me. WHO is the
one REALLY hiding? Sure isn't me, coward.
You wanted handwritten copies of my log books, yet failed to send me
your legitimate name and address so I could do so. WHO is the one
REALLY hiding? Sure isn't me, coward.
Motal challenged Larson to a public debate and Larson hides from
that challenge. Seems Larson is the real coward.
> but you really do need to take time out from
> your vendetta to see what's going on around you...
No vendetta, and actually I do take time to see what is around me.
In truth, my interest in Larson is more academic, a case study than
anything else and he doesn't take much of my time.
Yesterday I picked blackberries, for example. I plan to do some
fishing this weekend and help a certain friend of mine with a church
bake sale Saturday. Seems my snicker doodles was a hit last time they
had the bake and rummage sale. I might even add some of those cute
tiny blackberry pies.
>
> >where the crowd turned AGAINST Larson noted.
>
> 1 John 2:19
>
> >One
> > incident, the one about the crying rape victim, showed Larson's cold
> > callousness.
>
> News to me. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Its online. It was some years ago and it was from an eyewitness
report.
>
> > Spin it all you want, Rumplestilskin wannabe, you still can't
> > transform his disease into healthy tissue. Gilding a turd is still
> > gilding a turd.
>
> And of course, each of these blasphemous remarks of yours will get you
> an in your face reply from God.
You don't speak for God and never will Bobbie.
BTW what " blasphemies" did I commit? All I said was about Bob
Larson. Is Rumple your god? OR ...
Wait, is Bob Larson GOD to you?
Yowzah!! Doesn't the Antichrist claim to be God?
Moe
Hear the word of the Lord God, O Israel:
Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.
What shall be given unto thee? or what shall be done unto thee, thou
false tongue?
Sharp arrows of the mighty, with coals of juniper.
Listen!
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination
unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in
running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among
brethren.
Do you want the Church of Christ Jesus Son of God Almighty to endure
forever, or would you poison the roots of the Tree of Life?
The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is
but for a moment.
Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the
counsellors of peace is joy.
There shall no evil happen to the just: but the wicked shall be filled
with mischief.
Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are
his delight.
To lie in the name of God is blasphemy. It is obscenity.
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth
the hearts.
To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than
sacrifice.
Any high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is
sin.
Repent! For the Kingdom of God is at hand! The axe is laid to the
root, and the tree that produces poison fruit will be quickly chopped
down and cast into the fire!
Moe > Actually they know what " BL is about".
Moe > Money and vanity. Not about Jesus Christ.
Maureen McAllister the raging pagan wages
religious war by posing for a moment as a Christian..
Don't you think that obsessing and gang stalking
BL for TWENTY SIX YEARS is enough?
Cripes, Moe, even the worst of the raging atheists
would probably think you're a mental case for that!
You go off on a windy rant instead of getting
to the point that you asserted in your subject title.
Did you ever get to your point even?
Why have you obsessed with him so much that
you gang stalked and harassed Bob Larson for
TWENTY SIX YEARS, Maureen?
Did he pee in your Wheaties?
You've obviously taken this VERY personally.
You'll never stop obsessing about Bob, Moe. Ever since 1985 he's
consumed your life. You want him, but he rejected you. That is why
you broke into his garage and did that to his child. Its the closest
you could come to him. But now you feel guilty which is why you
created Greg and Kent in order to place yours sins on them and leave
yourself blameless.
yours in Christ,
isamu
The truth is, you are lusting after Moe - want her BIG time, but even you realize she has better taste than that.
Oh well, at least you still have that sheep in the garage....
Why would I want a 50 year old spinster?
yours in Christ,
isamu
Assuming you really are into women that is...
>KSIC > Obviously you have your facts wrong.
>KSIC > No surprise there. There are those
>KSIC > churches in N. America that quite
>KSIC > frankly just don't get what BL is all about.
>
>Moe > Actually they know what " BL is about".
>Moe > Money and vanity. Not about Jesus Christ.
>
>Maureen McAllister the raging pagan wages
>religious war by posing for a moment as a Christian..
>
Not to the mentally sound.
As you so often PROVE, YMMV.
>Don't you think that obsessing and gang stalking
>BL for TWENTY SIX YEARS is enough?
Pretending your claim of stalking is true, how can Moe, a lone
entity, be a gang?
Please explain in great detail when you answer.
>
>Cripes, Moe, even the worst of the raging atheists
>would probably think you're a mental case for that!
>
>You go off on a windy rant instead of getting
>to the point that you asserted in your subject title.
>
>Did you ever get to your point even?
Moe didn't write for your fourth grade intellect.
>
>Why have you obsessed with him so much that
>you gang stalked and harassed Bob Larson for
>TWENTY SIX YEARS, Maureen?
>
How can one person be a gang, Greg?
>Did he pee in your Wheaties?
>You've obviously taken this VERY personally.
What are tonight's Powerball numbers, Greg? Unless I'm exposing
yet another of your MANY deceptions, you must be psychic. You
couldn't make the claim that you did without being psychic or lying.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (Greg states they are as believable as the comment that
water is wet):
"I am Bob Larson."
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson offering more proof that he is
as mentally ill as he presents.
Message-ID:
<df610804-da3b-4aa8...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
As of Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011:
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE
Comments: OPA $2805.04
COPIES TO PA
VERIFICATION OF ACCOUNT
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT
Comments: JUDGMENT AGAINST GREGORY HANSON FOR $2805.04
+ INTEREST AT 7.271% FROM 8/6/98 & $45.00 COSTS.
Comments: NOTE OF GARN/NOTE TO DEFT SERV 9/24/98 BY WCSD
TO SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (ED POLKERS) FOR GREG HANSON
FEES $35.60
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
him. There is nothing to even suggest any of the money legally owed
has been paid. The SoL on the order has likely expired, but Greg still
can't risk getting a job due to it.
Question: Ho can I stop when I never started obsessing in the first
place?
> Ever since 1985 he's
> consumed your life.
Actually no. I have many interests and most of what I do is not
centered in any way around Bobbie E. Larson. I realize for a posturing
liar like you you cannot perceive of anyone keeping a casual interest
in a, for lack of a better word, personality, whose behavior can be
bizarre indeed.
> You want him, but he rejected you.
I WANT a piece of crap like Larson? Really?
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yukkie, I'd hate to burst the pustule that substitues for whatever
actual thought you may have, but Bob Larson is NOT attractive to me at
all.
By your "reasoning", anyone who studies Hitler must have some love
affair with that psychopath. Sorry doofus. Not happening here.
> That is why
> you broke into his garage and did that to his child.
(( rolls eyes)) Your lies are so obvious that I can't imagine why
anyone would believe you. For some reason you mixed what gaggie claims
about Kent and what gaggie DID to a seven year old girl and claim I an
guilty of such a thing. I should tell you that your claim is not
possible for a variety of reasons. Aside, OC from it being one of the
lies you puke out.
> Its the closest
> you could come to him.
In all seriousness, why would I want to be near Larson, particularly
if I know he's a psychopath? My function regarding Larson is as an
observer and commentator. Frankly I feel sorry for his second wife and
her daughters. I serve, for lack of a better term, as an alternate
source regarding what the REAL: Bob Larson is as opposed to his PR
campaign to promote himself with his many boastings and lies.
> But now you feel guilty which is why you
> created Greg and Kent
I " created" greg and Kent? (( puzzled look)) Dude, I'd hate to
disappoint your rather overblown view of me being that industrious as
to actually pretend to be Gaggie and Kent, but those two are separate
individuals.
> in order to place yours sins on them and leave
> yourself blameless.
Yukkie, I don't claim to be "sinless", even when my religion doesn't
believe in sin per se. I, Kent, greg, Larson and you are all finite
human beings and we all mess up, say and do things we should not and
fail to be better than what we should be at all times. But sheesh, I'd
have better imagination than to create a turd brain like Hanson, and
as for Kent, well, gee, I'd be more, well, witty, than he is.
>
> yours in Christ,
> isamu
Moe
Moe > By your "reasoning", anyone who studies
Moe > Hitler must have some love affair with that
Moe > psychopath. Sorry doofus. Not happening here.
Argumentum ad Hitlerium less than 10 posts into a thread?
That's a new record isn't it?
> Actually no. I have many interests and most of what I do is not
> centered in any way around Bobbie E. Larson.
So true, there is being a Forever Night groupie, hanging out on true-
crime websites, going after Ted Kaldis, netstalking with Loretta, so many
things on your plate for sure.
>>Maureen McAllister the raging pagan wages
>>religious war by posing for a moment as a Christian..
>>
>
> Not to the mentally sound.
That lets you out, trustafarian.
Maid service?
> Why have you obsessed with him so much that
> you gang stalked and harassed Bob Larson for
> TWENTY SIX YEARS, Maureen?
>
> Did he pee in your Wheaties?
> You've obviously taken this VERY personally.
>
Exactly!
What is her persoanl tie-in?
Loretta?
Spill!
LOL
yumhuyk > Why would I want a 50 year old spinster?
larsonomicon > Maid service?
Women just don't age well, do you, Moe?
You really are putting in the overtime with your stalking, Greg.
Loretta hasn't posted for many years, yet you are COMPELLED to write
about her.
Yours is NOT the behavior of the mentally sound.
Let your shrink know about this at your next session, Greg.
Hi there, I'm a human being! What are you?
Save your breath...You'll need it to blow up your date.
Listen, are you always this stupid or are you just making a special
effort today?
I heard that you changed your mind. So, what did you do with the
diaper?
A half-wit gave you a piece of his mind, and you held on to it.
No one will ever know that you've had a lobotomy, if you wear a wig to
hide to the scars and learn to control the slobbering.
People say that you are the perfect idiot. I say that you are not
perfect but you are doing all right.
Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone.
Don't worry about what people think. They don't do it very often.
I think , Therefore we have nothing in common
Every One Has The Right To Be Stupid But You're Abusing the Privilege
I can excuse everything but boredom. Boring people don't have to stay
that way.
Hedy Lamarr
I don't read such boring things. Life is too short.
Gyorgy Ligeti
Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look
stupid.
Hedy Lamarr
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do
stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?
Scott Adams
I have defeated this earthworm with my words. Imagine what I would
have done with my fire breathing fists.
Charlie Sheen
I have to tell them that last night was a shameful train wreck filled
with blind cuddly puppies.
Charlie Sheen
I'm dealing with fools and trolls and soft targets. It's just strafing
runs in my underwear before my first cup of coffee. I don't have time
for these clowns.
Charlie Sheen
I'm sorry, man, but I've got magic. I've got poetry in my fingertips.
Most of the time - and this includes naps - I'm an F-18, bro. And I
will destroy you in the air. I will deploy my ordinance to the ground.
Charlie Sheen
I've spent, I think, close to the last decade effortlessly and
magically converting your tin cans into pure gold.
Charlie Sheen
What they're not ready for is guys like you and I and Nails and all
the other gnarly gnarlingtons in my life, that we are high priests,
Vatican assassin warlocks. Boom. Print that, people. See where that
goes.
Charlie Sheen
I never heard of Loretta until larsonomicon
mentioned the name, and I asked (in a vernacular way)
for him to spill the beans.
You sure are sensitive about past members
of your gang netstalking campaings.
Maybe YOU should tell the story of Loretta, Kent?
Nobody knows the exact age of the human race but everyone agrees it is
old enough to know better.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through
our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that
democracy means that �my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.� �
Isaac Asimov
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can�t make him think.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. -
Charles Darwin
>On Jun 19, 5:04�pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jun 19, 12:24�am, larsonomicon wrote:
>> >> TWellingfan wrote:
>> >> > Actually no. I have many interests and most of what I do is not
>> >> > centered in any way around Bobbie E. Larson.
>>
>> >> So true, there is being a Forever Night groupie, hanging out on true-
>> >> crime websites, going after Ted Kaldis, netstalking with Loretta, so many
>> >> things on your plate for sure.
>>
>> >Loretta?
>>
>> >Spill!
>>
>> >LOL
>>
>> � � �You really are putting in the overtime with your stalking, Greg.
>> Loretta hasn't posted for many years, yet you are COMPELLED to write
>> about her.
>> � � Yours is NOT the behavior of the mentally sound.
>> � � Let your shrink know about this at your next session, Greg.
>
>I never heard of Loretta until larsonomicon
>mentioned the name, and I asked (in a vernacular way)
>for him to spill the beans.
>
You and he are the same person. You PROVED this when you used the
quad nym.
Unless you're going to claim "he" LIED when he claimed you wrote
what he did.
Which will it be, Greg? Is he your sock, in which case no one
should pay attention to him, or did he lie, in which case no one
should pay attention to him?
I'll accept either answer.
>You sure are sensitive about past members
>of your gang netstalking campaings.
Lies on your part do not equate to truth on mine.
Nice try though.
I may adopt your method of deception. Don't go whining if I do
so. Express your joy over my finding YOUR method worthy of adoption,
if I do so.
>Maybe YOU should tell the story of Loretta, Kent?
Since you've clearly already spent a great deal of time reading
up about her, there will be no need.
Here's something you may not know, since I don't think it was
mentioned on Usenet. A few years ago she wrote an off-Broadway play.
From what I was told, it did pretty good.
I mention it because she was, and I presume still is, very open
about her drug addiction. She overcame her addiction and has become a
play write. If you work hard at mastering YOUR addiction to drugs
(unless your admission was a lie), you might be able to make something
of yourself as well.
You may not write a play and get it performed in New York, but
you'll certainly be better off than the sad, worthless, loser your
admitted use and abuse of illegal drugs has made you.
Moe?
you'll accept a shoe in the teeth, burglar!
Tell me about Loretta, Please.
Go ahead, sock tell him who Loretta is.
(( Sits back and lets Greg once again make a fool out of himself in
his " game"))
Moe
huh?
starting to sweat, maureen?
Only if you ask her about Ralph.
Jersey.
Ralph?
(( raises eyebrow)) Have you been talking to my boyfriend?
Moe
DJS3 > Only if you ask her about Ralph.
Moe > Ralph?
Moe > (( raises eyebrow)) Have you been talking to my boyfriend?
You gave your inflateable plastic a name?
I doubt your sock puppet could tell you anything you don't
already know, Greg.
Context restored at no additional cost.
>Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent.
>In YOUR words.
You can reply to your own posts claiming you are me as often as
you want, but you will forever remain the uneducated, unemployed LOSER
you are.
That aside, outside of your drug induced (unless you lied)
delusions, Moe and Loretta are not the same person. Really.
> Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
Yes ""kent"" please do!
> You can reply to your own posts
You sure do!
> Please tell me the whole story about
> Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
Yes, please do!
Context restored at no additional cost
>>>>On Jun 19, 12:28�am, larsonomicon wrote:
>>>>> Greegor wrote:
>>>>> > Why have you obsessed with him so much that
>>>>> > you gang stalked and harassed Bob Larson for
>>>>> > TWENTY SIX YEARS, Maureen?
>>>>>
>>>>> > Did he pee in your Wheaties?
>>>>> > You've obviously taken this VERY personally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>
>>>>> What is her persoanl tie-in?
>>>>
>>>>Moe?
>>>
>>>Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent.
>>>In YOUR words.
>>
>> You can reply to your own posts claiming you are me as often as
>>you want, but you will forever remain the uneducated, unemployed LOSER
>>you are.
Greg? Are you offering the tacit admission that I was and am
correct? By the very standards you've DEMANDED be held to others you
are, but I'd like more than your drug induced (unless you lied)
standards.
>> That aside, outside of your drug induced (unless you lied)
>>delusions, Moe and Loretta are not the same person. Really.
>
>Please tell me the whole story about
>Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
You will already know all that I know, unless you LIED when you
claimed to have read all of my past posts.
larsonalia > Yes ""kent"" please do!
Why NOT, Kent?
> Context restored at no additional cost
Kent Wills = garage burglar.
Oh Kent.....
Don't you even want to post YOUR SIDE of the story, Kent?
Why are you too shy to tell YOUR side of the story about Loretta,
Kent?
I realize you are DESPERATE to be someone, ANYONE, other than the
uneducated, unemployed LOSER you are, but replying to your own posts,
calling yourself someone else will not change who you are. When you
look into the mirror, you will still see a "man" who is mentally
retarded and hasn't been gotten a job for over a decade due to the
fear regarding the garnishment order against him (see sig).
> At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>G > Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
>>larsonalia > Yes ""kent"" please do!
>>G > Why NOT, Kent?
>>larsonalia > Oh Kent.....
>>
>>Don't you even want to post YOUR SIDE of the story, Kent?
>
> What story?
>
Coward.
> At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>G > Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
>>larsonalia > Yes ""kent"" please do!
>>G > Why NOT, Kent?
>>larsonalia > Oh Kent.....
>>G > Don't you even want to post YOUR SIDE of the story, Kent?
>>
>>Why are you too shy to tell YOUR side of the story about Loretta, Kent?
>
> I realize you are DESPERATE to
Coward.
If you don't want to tell YOUR side of the story,
Kent, or should I just quote your old posts
on the subject of Loretta?
Why wouldn't you want to post YOUR SIDE of the story first, Kent?
>G > Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
>larsonalia > Yes ""kent"" please do!
>G > Why NOT, Kent?
>larsonalia > Oh Kent.....
>G > Don't you even want to post YOUR SIDE of the story, Kent?
>KBW > What story?
>
>If you don't want to tell YOUR side of the story,
>Kent, or should I just quote your old posts
>on the subject of Loretta?
Quote all you want. Just be sure to include the MIDs and/or
links to the archives so that context can be checked and confirmed.
Oops. Did I just ruin your game?
>
>Why wouldn't you want to post YOUR SIDE of the story first, Kent?
Answer the question I asked, coward.
Three different songs about Loretta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vbdg4NxvRU
>On Jul 10, 5:29 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >G > Please tell me the whole story about Loretta, Kent. In YOUR words.
>> >larsonalia > Yes ""kent"" please do!
>> >G > Why NOT, Kent?
>> >larsonalia > Oh Kent.....
>> >G > Don't you even want to post YOUR SIDE of the story, Kent?
>> >KBW > What story?
>>
>> >If you don't want to tell YOUR side of the story,
>> >Kent, or should I just quote your old posts
>> >on the subject of Loretta?
>>
>> Quote all you want. Just be sure to include the MIDs and/or
>> links to the archives so that context can be checked and confirmed.
>> Oops. Did I just ruin your game?
>>
I must have ruined the game you wanted to play.
A real bummer for you.
>>
>> >Why wouldn't you want to post YOUR SIDE of the story first, Kent?
>>
>> Answer the question I asked, coward.
>
>Three different songs about Loretta:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vbdg4NxvRU
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1uNhdXjz60
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBnNzQz67A
Outside of your latest PROOF that you were honest when you
admitted you use and abuse illegal drugs, none of those apply to the
person you referenced.
The one from the Beatles (Get Back) is thought to be about Linda
McCartney's ex-husband, Joe See. This isn't a secret.
Is there anything, anything at all, about which you can be
honest, other than when you think honesty will advance one or more of
your MANY pathological lies?
This is a serious question, though you'll prove, once again, that
just the thought of having to answer a question causes you to soil
your pants in fear.
You had your chance to tell your side of the story, Kent!
Grow some balls and tell us what you know about Loretta, Kent.
There is no story to tell, dullard.
>Grow some balls and tell us what you know about Loretta, Kent.
You know all I know. Unless you LIED about reading all of my
past posts.
If there is something SPECIFIC you want to discuss, tell me. If
I know any details, I can share. I doubt she would mind since all I
know is that which she made public.
Why were so many people angry at her, Kent?
Why did you rush to her defense?
I wasn't aware so many were. Please explain.
Then explain why your OBSESSED with a woman who hasn't posted in
years and with whom you've never had any interaction.
Thanks in advance.
>Why did you rush to her defense?
I didn't.
But do prove your claim that I rushed to her defense. Unless I
just exposed another of your MANY drug induced (unless you lied)
pathological lies.
Now he wants your balls Kent!
Yup Greg is homosexually interested in a straight married man.
Moe
Why won't you enter the chatroom, Moe-ron?
> I wasn't aware so many were. Please explain.
Why did you corrupt a minor?
Old news now. Greg would often present the evidence that his
interest in me is purely sexual. The evidence has always been fairly
weak, but Greg has offered it himself.
I should point out that Greg may simply be displaying his bigotry
towards gays. It may be the equivalent of juveniles saying, "That's
gay!"
--
Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes.
No, that's TAKEI !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkIWB3HIEs&feature=youtu.be&a
Moe
>
> --
> Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes.
>
> "I am Bob Larson."
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson offering more proof that he is
> as mentally ill as he presents.
> Message-ID:
> <df610804-da3b-4aa8-aad0-638da7588...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
>
> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson (Greg states they are as believable as the comment that
> water is wet):
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
> (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
> GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
> Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
>
> Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
> -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
> April 2000, Gregory Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
> news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>
> Greg would often present the evidence that his interest in me is purely
> sexual.
You are nutty, ""Kent"".
[...]
>> >Yup Greg is homosexually interested in a straight married man.
>>
>> Old news now. Greg would often present the evidence that his
>> interest in me is purely sexual. The evidence has always been fairly
>> weak, but Greg has offered it himself.
>> I should point out that Greg may simply be displaying his bigotry
>> towards gays. It may be the equivalent of juveniles saying, "That's
>> gay!"
>
>No, that's TAKEI !!
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkIWB3HIEs&feature=youtu.be&a
Good one!
--
There is a chasm
of carbon and silicon
the software can't bridge.