JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 196)

[David Von Pein]

ARCHIVED JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM POSTS OF INTEREST (PART 196):

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SHIPPING CASKETS AND BODY BAGS:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=75#entry266059


J. EDGAR HOOVER:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=150#entry266262
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=165#entry266299
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=180#entry266382


HAROLD WEISBERG AND JAMES DiEUGENIO:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=225#entry266518


COMMISSION EXHIBIT 399:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bb10ad85e0119875


WFAA-TV, ABC-TV, AND LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S NAME:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19926&#entry266770
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19926&#entry266807
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19926&#entry266810
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19926&st=15#entry266826


PRETEND THIS IS LEE OSWALD:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/pretend-this-is-oswald-on-hot-seat.html


JOHN J. McCLOY:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19944&#entry267096


MARK LANE VS. VINCENT BUGLIOSI:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p1SfEDMsdfQ/USeJJrJiIbI/AAAAAAAAtEs/aBcN2UclxN0/s1600-h/RH-Excerpts.png


RANDOM STUFF:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=150#entry266298
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=165#entry266336
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=180#entry266376
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19866&st=210#entry266469
http://jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,7742.msg223517.html#msg223517
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f7ddce5801dd11b9
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19944&st=30#entry267367


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[aeffects]

On Feb 23, 8:37 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip>

no advertising fool! You know the rules.

[David Von Pein]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/05367bc1817391f1

Undoubtedly, Ralph Cinque fell for the above tongue-in-cheek
"confession" -- hook, line, and "dimly-flickering halogen".

Wasn't it nice of the "shill" to just happen to remember--verbatim--
the exact things that his boss and "trainer" said to him. A whole
bunch of word-for-word "quotes" too. I guess perhaps our soon-to-be-
hired shill had a tape recorder hidden in his pocket. How convenient.
But I guess Ralph will fall for anything.

As the person who was yanking Ralph's chain said: "Long-term
joblessness breeds desperation."

But in Cinque's case, we can change that to:

"Long-term searches for paid LN shills and fakery in every piece of
evidence breeds desperation (and hilarity)."

Has Ralph already forgotten the spanking that Wally Cleaver gave him
in 2012?:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/doorway-man-part-2.html#Wally-Cleaver

It would also appear that long-term desire to prove the innocence of a
guilty double-murderer named Oswald breeds a lack of short-term memory
as well.

[Phil Ossofee]

Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
Disingenuous.

[Ben Holmes]

In article <2737-512...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee
says...

>
>Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
>Disingenuous.

DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong evidence
of
conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry - and
simply
verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used it as
evidence of a lone assassin.

Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.

Why would DVP do any different?


--
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Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com

[Walt]

On Feb 27, 8:40 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee

> says...
>
>
>
> >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
> >Disingenuous.
>
> DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong evidence
> of
> conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry - and
> simply
> verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used it as
> evidence of a lone assassin.
>
> Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.
>
> Why would DVP do any different?

Are you sure that Von Pea Brain isn't Vince Bugliosi?

[Bud]

On Feb 27, 9:40 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee

> says...
>
>
>
> >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
> >Disingenuous.
>
> DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong evidence
> of
> conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry -

<snicker> You think this is strong evidence? People out of their
field making a pronouncement without any real investigation?

>and
> simply
> verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used it as
> evidence of a lone assassin.
>
> Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.

Lane lied and said CE399 was "undeformed", and you have no problem
with that lie.

[Walt]

On Feb 27, 12:52 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 9:40 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee
> > says...
>
> > >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
> > >Disingenuous.
>
> > DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong evidence
> > of
> > conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry -
>
>   <snicker> You think this is strong evidence? People out of their
> field making a pronouncement without any real investigation?
>
> >and
> > simply
> > verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used it as
> > evidence of a lone assassin.
>
> > Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.
>
>   Lane lied and said CE399 was "undeformed", and you have no problem
> with that lie.

That's a blatant LIE Dud..... YOU are the liar. And you can't
claim that you didn't know that Mark Lane DID NOT say the that the but
was "deformed," because I lifted Mark Lanes exact words of "ALMOST
UNDEFORMED" from page 76 of Rush To Judgement. That's how Lane
described CE 399 ..."ALMOST UNDEFORMED" You are a LIAR!

[Phil Ossofee]

Hell, that's a good point if those Parkland Doctors said the throat
wound looked" ragged" I could accept an exit wound. PD.

[Walt]

On Feb 27, 1:10 pm, summersalmostg...@webtv.net (Phil Ossofee) wrote:
> Hell, that's a good point if those Parkland Doctors said the throat
> wound looked" ragged" I could accept an exit wound. PD.

Dr Carrico is the only Doctor who got a good look at the throat wound
and he described it as..." small penetrating wound of the anterior
neck in the lower 1/3 "

He told LBJ's SBRC that the throat wound was tiny, only about 3 to 5
mm in diameter, and it was a neatly punched hole ( Like that made by a
paper punch) It was NOT ragged..... A Latter Day Conspirator's named
Bugliosi has tried to make the case that the wound on the side of
JFK's treachea is the wound that Dr carrico saw..... But that's
laughably ridiculous, and down right bizarre,because Dr Carrico
couldn't see that INTERNAL wound on the treachea until he enlarged the
tiny penetrating ( paper puch hole) on the EXTERIOR surface of JFK's
throat.

[Ben Holmes]

In article <73db58a8-ffab-45ca...@f5g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Walt says...

>
>On Feb 27, 8:40=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>> In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee
>> says...
>>
>>
>>
>> >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
>> >Disingenuous.
>>

>> DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong ev=
>idence
>> of
>> conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry - a=
>nd
>> simply
>> verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used =

>it as
>> evidence of a lone assassin.
>>
>> Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.
>>
>> Why would DVP do any different?
>
>Are you sure that Von Pea Brain isn't Vince Bugliosi?

From what I've heard, Bugliosi is computer illiterate... he does everything on
notepads of yellow paper... as I recall. So unless someone shows Bugliosi these
critiques of his published lies, he wouldn't know about 'em.

[Ben Holmes]

In article <cc3eb4bd-ce64-463d...@9g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
Walt says...
>
>On Feb 27, 12:52=A0pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 9:40=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossof=
>ee
>> > says...
>>
>> > >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years Davi=
>d?
>> > >Disingenuous.
>>
>> > DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong =

>evidence
>> > of
>> > conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry -
>>

>> =A0 <snicker> You think this is strong evidence? People out of their

>> field making a pronouncement without any real investigation?
>>
>> >and
>> > simply

>> > verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and use=

>d it as
>> > evidence of a lone assassin.
>>

>> > Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about i=
>t.
>>
>> =A0 Lane lied and said CE399 was "undeformed", and you have no problem

>> with that lie.
>
>
>That's a blatant LIE Dud..... YOU are the liar. And you can't
>claim that you didn't know that Mark Lane DID NOT say the that the but
>was "deformed," because I lifted Mark Lanes exact words of "ALMOST
>UNDEFORMED" from page 76 of Rush To Judgement. That's how Lane
>described CE 399 ..."ALMOST UNDEFORMED" You are a LIAR!

Of *course* "Bud" is a liar. He's smoother than most, he's more polished in his
lies... but he certainly is a liar.

>>
>>
>> > Why would DVP do any different?
>>
>> > --

>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------=

[Walt]

On Feb 27, 2:43 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <73db58a8-ffab-45ca-8b36-7d5c28fa6...@f5g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,

> Walt says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 27, 8:40=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> >> In article <2737-512D0F4A-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Phil Ossofee
> >> says...
>
> >> >Still can't find any evidence of conspiracy after all these years David?
> >> >Disingenuous.
>
> >> DVP has been unable to give a credible reason why Bugliosi took strong ev=
> >idence
> >> of
> >> conspiracy - the bullet wound in the throat that looked like an entry - a=
> >nd
> >> simply
> >> verbally operated on it and turned the description to "ragged", and used =
> >it as
> >> evidence of a lone assassin.
>
> >> Bugliosi, when faced with evidence of conspiracy... simply lies about it.
>
> >> Why would DVP do any different?
>
> >Are you sure that Von Pea Brain isn't Vince Bugliosi?
>
> From what I've heard, Bugliosi is computer illiterate... he does everything on
> notepads of yellow paper... as I recall. So unless someone shows Bugliosi these
> critiques of his published lies, he wouldn't know about 'em.

You can bet that the slimey bastard knows that there are thousands of
people who know that his government sponsered book is just another
addition to the pile of bullshit which was started by LBJ's Select
Blue Ribbon Committee. He doesn't give a damn.....His bank account is
considerably fatter, with our tax dollars, and that's what's important
to this POS..

[David Von Pein]

>>> "I lifted Mark Lane's exact words of "ALMOST UNDEFORMED" from page 76 of Rush To Judgement [sic]. That's how Lane described CE 399..."ALMOST UNDEFORMED"." <<<

You should have kept reading, Walt. Let's have a look at exactly what
Mr. Lane says on Page 78:

"The Commission concluded that one bullet—Commission Exhibit 399—
did all the damage, while remaining unshattered, unflattened,
undeformed." -- "Rush To Judgment", p.78

Lane's a liar. The bullet isn't "undeformed", and it certainly doesn't
qualify as being "unflattened" either (see photo below).

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ce399.gif

[Bud]

Thanks for pointing that out David, it saves me the trouble. Of
course I already provided this to the retard before, but he insists on
being corrected more than once. It may not still sink in.

[Bud]

On Feb 27, 3:44 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <cc3eb4bd-ce64-463d-b727-8b55662ad...@9g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,

<snicker> Walt lies (but he gets a pass, since he a dunce who
doesn`t know any better) and you back up his lies, even though you
know that Walt is wrong, and that Lane did in fact call CE399
"undeformed" (since you produced the excerpt from Lane`s book where he
said that very thing).

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d026806e2bd3d802

[Walt]

Ha,ha,ha,ha,hee.hee,hee...ROTFLMAO!!.....hee,hee......


Watta DUMBASS you are Dud..... You can't even comprehend what you
read.....if you could you'd know that Mark Lane is saying what the
Warren Commission concluded...

"The Commission concluded that one bullet—Commission Exhibit 399—
did all the damage, while remaining unshattered, unflattened,
undeformed." -- "Rush To Judgment", p.78

Hee,hee,hee.... Way ta go Dumbass....

[Bud]

Where did the Warren Commision say that CE399 was "undeformed"?
Either Lane lied about CE399 being "undeformed", or he lied about the
WC saying it was.

My reading of the passage is that Lane is saying that the WC
contended that CE399 did all the damage, with the assessment of the
condition of the bullet being Lane`s contribution. Either way Lane
lied.

[Ben Holmes]

In article <582b265a-2aa4-40d2...@k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Walt says...

No, I don't think that Bugliosi was referring AT ALL to the tracheal wound, he
was
speaking about entry and exit wounds... and how they differ.

He used the DESCRIPTION of the tracheal wound, and simply pretended that the
original bullet wound ON THE SKIN of JFK's neck was being referred to.

He lied blatantly in order to advance his cause.

And only those who've spent some time looking at that same evidence that
Bugliosi
looked at will be able to spot his lies.

You can't trust him to tell the truth (indeed, this is true of just about
everyone
in this case... ALWAYS check the primary evidence and testimony...)

[Walt]

On Feb 26, 4:10 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/05367bc18173...

>
> Undoubtedly, Ralph Cinque fell for the above tongue-in-cheek
> "confession" -- hook, line, and "dimly-flickering halogen".
>
> Wasn't it nice of the "shill" to just happen to remember--verbatim--
> the exact things that his boss and "trainer" said to him. A whole
> bunch of word-for-word "quotes" too. I guess perhaps our soon-to-be-
> hired shill had a tape recorder hidden in his pocket. How convenient.
> But I guess Ralph will fall for anything.
>
> As the person who was yanking Ralph's chain said: "Long-term
> joblessness breeds desperation."
>
> But in Cinque's case, we can change that to:
>
> "Long-term searches for paid LN shills and fakery in every piece of
> evidence breeds desperation (and hilarity)."
>
> Has Ralph already forgotten the spanking that Wally Cleaver gave him
> in 2012?:
>

> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/doorway-man-part-2.html#Wall...

>
> It would also appear that long-term desire to prove the innocence of a
> guilty double-murderer named Oswald breeds a lack of short-term memory
> as well.

Hey, Von Pea Brain...... Your desperation is hangin out. When a
creature like you jumps to discredit a post, we can be sure the
creature has an ulterior motive .........

[David Von Pein]

http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx1PW7HP0SZ0SAA/Tx3BQKN094W8XC2/8/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0805096663&cdMsgID=Mx1GM5ZN4KWZERP&cdMsgNo=191&cdSort=oldest#Mx1GM5ZN4KWZERP

BEN HOLMES SAID:

I note for the record that you've not provided a citation of Carrico
describing the original bullet wound in JFK's throat as "ragged". ....
Either Bugliosi was correct, or he was not. If he was not, THEN YOU'RE
LYING. Carrico either did or did not describe the original bullet
wound in the throat as "ragged".


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

For Pete sake, Holmes, I've said repeatedly that Bugliosi was wrong.
But he didn't lie. He was just wrong. What more do you want? Blood?

BTW,

There are several more examples of "brain cramps" in Mr. Bugliosi's
JFK book. Here are just a few (off the top of my head). I'm sure
you'll want to string Vince up by the nearest oak tree for these
gaffes too, right Benji?.....

1.) In a footnote on page 953 of "Reclaiming History", Vince says that
CE399 is the bullet that caused JFK's head wounds. Pretty big "brain
cramp" there, indeed. Was he "lying", Ben? Or can we agree that Vince
was merely mistaken there, and that Vince REALLY does know that 399
was the SBT bullet and not the "head shot" bullet?

And Vincent's embarrassment on this point was extended even more when
he actually read that passage of the book to an audience at the Sixth
Floor Museum in Dallas on May 24, 2007.

2.) Another brain cramp occurs when Vince says that CE399 was
initially examined at the Dallas crime lab on 11/22/63. Of course, the
bullet was never at the Dallas P.D. crime lab on 11/22 at all. It was
flown to Washington aboard Air Force One in the pocket of Richard
Johnsen. Should I insist Bugliosi was "lying" when he suffered that
brain cramp too, Holmes?

3.) On pages 423 and 424 of his JFK book, Bugliosi argues that JFK's
throat wound was located BOTH above AND below the upper-back wound.
More lies, Ben? Or will you admit that there is probably another
explanation (other than lying) that would explain Vincent's
embarrassing "above is also below" anomaly that exists on pages 423
and 424 of "Reclaiming History"?

[David Von Pein]

Battling still more conspiracy clowns:

http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx1PW7HP0SZ0SAA/Tx3BQKN094W8XC2/8/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0805096663&cdMsgID=Mx2VP3Y2BU345CE&cdMsgNo=194&cdSort=oldest#Mx2VP3Y2BU345CE

Sam,

If you want to talk about "Occam's", then you've got no choice but to
accept the SBT. Any other scenario reeks with silliness and a host of
unexplainables (e.g., missing bullets [2 in Kennedy alone, which
evidently doesn't concern you in the slightest], invisible gunmen, an
"SBT"-like wound arrangement on TWO victims).

Occam's = SBT. Without doubt.

And the throat wound was said to have been consistent with EITHER an
exit or an entrance. Both Perry AND Carrico testified to that fact.
But, as usual, CTers continually ignore the fact that BOTH Carrico &
Perry said the wound could have been "either" an entry or exit. Why is
that?

Comedy of errors? That's an apt description for all of the conspiracy
theories, which resemble a road map drawn by a drunken sailor.

[David Von Pein]

March 2013 article on Gary Mack:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/explore/20130302-gary-mack-and-the-evolution-of-a-jfk-conspiracy-theorist.ece

[Walt]

On Mar 2, 1:55 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Battling still more conspiracy clowns:
>

> http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...

>
> Sam,
>
> If you want to talk about "Occam's", then you've got no choice but to
> accept the SBT. Any other scenario reeks with silliness and a host of
> unexplainables (e.g., missing bullets [2 in Kennedy alone, which
> evidently doesn't concern you in the slightest], invisible gunmen, an
> "SBT"-like wound arrangement on TWO victims).
>
> Occam's = SBT. Without doubt.
>
> And the throat wound was said to have been consistent with EITHER an
> exit or an entrance. Both Perry AND Carrico testified to that fact.
> But, as usual, CTers continually ignore the fact that BOTH Carrico &
> Perry said the wound could have been "either" an entry or exit. Why is
> that?
>
> Comedy of errors? That's an apt description for all of the conspiracy
> theories, which resemble a road map drawn by a drunken sailor.

The Magic Bull Stuff theory DEFIES Occam's razor........

[Walt]

On Mar 3, 2:37 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> March 2013 article on Gary Mack:
>

> http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/explore/20130302-gary-mack-and-t...

And then, in the early 1990s, he had a revelation.

Mack had a revelation....... When he realized there was more money to
be made on the other side of the street....

[David Von Pein]

http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx1PW7HP0SZ0SAA/Tx3BQKN094W8XC2/9/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0805096663&cdMsgID=Mx3505IRWWS8LXP&cdMsgNo=220&cdSort=oldest#Mx3505IRWWS8LXP


SAM CLEMENS SAID:

Mr. (Sherlock?) Holmes is wrong when he mentions two throat wounds.
There was only one, and one in the upper back.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You see, Mr. Holmes. Even Sam Clemens, a devout conspiracy theorist
who sees fakery and corruption everywhere associated with JFK's
murder, is thoroughly confused about the "ragged" throat wound topic.

Even though we've been talking about this topic for days on end here
at Amazon, Sam Clemens still doesn't grasp the facts surrounding the
"ragged" subject, which is just exactly what I alluded to when I said
this yesterday:

"There's evidence from the various responses by different people in
THIS VERY AMAZON DISCUSSION to indicate that this "ragged" topic is
quite confusing and, therefore, can easily result in mistaken
interpretation. I guess, however, Holmes is too stupid to realize that
fact." -- DVP; Mar. 2, 2013

[David Von Pein]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/explore/20130302-gary-mack-and-the-evolution-of-a-jfk-conspiracy-theorist.ece

I particularly enjoyed the part of the above article which says that
Gary Mack changed his name from Larry Dunkel to Gary Mack (probably
way back in the 1970s sometime).

Unless I'm mistaken, that name-changing declaration will probably come
as a big surprise to some conspiracy theorists, who I think have
asserted in the past that Mr. Mack had simply MADE UP the name Larry
Dunkel in order to pose as a different person when discussing the JFK
case.

The CTers will still say that by using the name Dunkel, instead of
Mack, it still served to "hide" his true identity. But I just think
it's kind of funny to find out that Dunkel is Gary's REAL name--and
Gary Mack is, in essence, a FAKE name. Interesting irony there, isn't
it? :-)

[David Von Pein]

http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx1PW7HP0SZ0SAA/Tx3BQKN094W8XC2/10/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0805096663&cdMsgID=MxW6P10SJTBM51&cdMsgNo=226&cdSort=oldest#MxW6P10SJTBM51

BEN HOLMES SAID:

Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.

DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:

I never said you were, idiot. I was merely confirming the point I made
yesterday about the "ragged" topic being confusing to many people and,
therefore, resulting in incorrect interpretations.

And it would appear as though we've got not just ONE such confused
person in this Amazon thread alone (Clemens) -- but several.

Just call them all "liars", Holmes. That's the tactic that usually
works best for you pathetic conspiracy-loving clowns.

[Bud]

On Mar 3, 3:26 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...

>
> BEN HOLMES SAID:
>
> Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> I never said you were, idiot.

I will. It`s his fault he worded it poorly. That it was worded
poorly was pointed out a year ago to him here.

[Walt]

On Mar 3, 2:26 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...
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> BEN HOLMES SAID:
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> Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> I never said you were, idiot. I was merely confirming the point I made
> yesterday about the "ragged" topic being confusing to many people and,
> therefore, resulting in incorrect interpretations.
>
> And it would appear as though we've got not just ONE such confused
> person in this Amazon thread alone (Clemens) -- but several.
>
> Just call them all "liars", Holmes. That's the tactic that usually
> works best for you pathetic conspiracy-loving clowns.

Hey Von Pea Brain...... Some people may be forgiven because they are
ignorant, and don't know that CE 392 is printed on page 519 of the WR.
CE 392 is Dr Carrico's hand written report of what he had observered
in Trama #1 that day. Dr Carrico said that he saw a small, 3 to 5mm,
PENETRATING wound on the front of JFK's throat.

However, there is no excuse for you.....You're just a LIAR..... You
know what many of the Doctors and Nurses said they saw, but you are
too STUPID and too DISHONEST to admit it....... You're pathetic.....

[David Von Pein]

BUD SAID:

I will. It`s his fault he worded it poorly. That it was worded poorly
was pointed out a year ago to him here.

DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:

Yes, that's true. But in the interim time period, the "ragged" topic
has been clearly defined (by myself included), and yet there are some
people who still seem to be confused about it -- the conspiracy kook
named Clemens being the latest example at the Amazon thread.

[David Von Pein]

The idiot named Walt actually seems to think that I have never
acknowledged or "admitted" that the Parkland doctors said they thought
the wound in JFK's throat could have been an entry wound.

I guess Walter should have read the stuff I wrote at the link below
(which has already been linked in various places whenever this
"ragged" topic surfaces):

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/reclaiming-history-errors.html

[David Von Pein]

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/parkland-press-conference-11-22-63.html

[Bud]

On Mar 3, 3:39 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2:26 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...
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> > BEN HOLMES SAID:
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> > Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.
>
> > DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> > I never said you were, idiot. I was merely confirming the point I made
> > yesterday about the "ragged" topic being confusing to many people and,
> > therefore, resulting in incorrect interpretations.
>
> > And it would appear as though we've got not just ONE such confused
> > person in this Amazon thread alone (Clemens) -- but several.
>
> > Just call them all "liars", Holmes. That's the tactic that usually
> > works best for you pathetic conspiracy-loving clowns.
>
> Hey Von Pea Brain......  Some people may be forgiven because they are
> ignorant, and don't know that CE 392 is printed on page 519 of the WR.
> CE 392 is Dr Carrico's hand written report of what he had observered
> in Trama #1 that day.  Dr Carrico said that he saw a small, 3 to 5mm,
> PENETRATING wound on the front of JFK's throat.
>
> However, there is no excuse for you.....

There is none for you, I explained to you that this doesn`t mean
that it was an entrance, only that it was a wound that went down into
the tissue.

[Bud]

On Mar 3, 3:39 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:

> On Mar 3, 2:26 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...
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> > BEN HOLMES SAID:
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> > Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.
>
> > DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> > I never said you were, idiot. I was merely confirming the point I made
> > yesterday about the "ragged" topic being confusing to many people and,
> > therefore, resulting in incorrect interpretations.
>
> > And it would appear as though we've got not just ONE such confused
> > person in this Amazon thread alone (Clemens) -- but several.
>
> > Just call them all "liars", Holmes. That's the tactic that usually
> > works best for you pathetic conspiracy-loving clowns.
>
> Hey Von Pea Brain......  Some people may be forgiven because they are
> ignorant, and don't know that CE 392 is printed on page 519 of the WR.
> CE 392 is Dr Carrico's hand written report of what he had observered
> in Trama #1 that day.  Dr Carrico said that he saw a small, 3 to 5mm,
> PENETRATING wound on the front of JFK's throat.

http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=100062

[Ben Holmes]

In article <387c1dec-bf6e-4e4e...@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Walt says...

Indeed!

Finding an honest LNT'er is a task beyond me... I must admit...

[Walt]

On Mar 3, 4:44 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <387c1dec-bf6e-4e4e-8857-820171a53...@y4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

> Walt says...
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> >On Mar 3, 2:26=A0pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.amazon.com/Kennedy-erratic-drifter-Harvey-Oswald-/forum/Fx...
>
> >> BEN HOLMES SAID:
>
> >> Sorry moron, I'm not responsible for any confusion of other people.
>
> >> DAVID VON PEIN SAYS:
>
> >> I never said you were, idiot. I was merely confirming the point I made
> >> yesterday about the "ragged" topic being confusing to many people and,
> >> therefore, resulting in incorrect interpretations.
>
> >> And it would appear as though we've got not just ONE such confused
> >> person in this Amazon thread alone (Clemens) -- but several.
>
> >> Just call them all "liars", Holmes. That's the tactic that usually
> >> works best for you pathetic conspiracy-loving clowns.
>
> >Hey Von Pea Brain......  Some people may be forgiven because they are
> >ignorant, and don't know that CE 392 is printed on page 519 of the WR.
> >CE 392 is Dr Carrico's hand written report of what he had observered
> >in Trama #1 that day.  Dr Carrico said that he saw a small, 3 to 5mm,
> >PENETRATING wound on the front of JFK's throat.
>
> >However, there is no excuse for you.....You're just a LIAR.....  You
> >know what many of the Doctors and Nurses said they saw, but you are
> >too STUPID and too DISHONEST to admit it....... You're pathetic.....
>
> Indeed!
>
> Finding an honest LNT'er is a task beyond me... I must admit...

Akin to finding a needle in a haystack...... I'm sure there is a
honest LNer who simply doesn't know anything about this case, and just
accepts the lie as if it is the truth, but that rare bird doesn't post
in any of the NG's. ALL LNer's that post in the NG's are LIARS.

[timstter]

Your STUPIDITY defies belief.

Informative Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!