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Ben Holmes

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Jan 7, 2010, 12:51:43 AM1/7/10
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I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
and assure me that it is.

But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even John has
deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)

I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, there's
a big red "x" over my name ... trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get the
topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.

Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence that
scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.

It's a *wonderful* new year so far!!!


--
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Ben Holmes
Learn to Make Money with a Website - http://www.burningknife.com

Chuck Schuyler

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:34:32 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 6, 11:51 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningunderpantsonplanes.com>
wrote:

> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
> and assure me that it is.
>
> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even John has
> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)

> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on,

I'd say you're getting desperate, Kooktard. Ben the Coward must
finally realize he's taken such a beating that he's got to make like
Punxsutawney Phil on Groundhog Day and come out of his killfilter
cave...in this case, he's trying to rehabilitate his, um, IMAGE within
the Kooktard Kommunity. Other than Healy from Dealey, even the
kooktards have come to realize that you're just a big blowhard.

I predict he'll crawl back into his Kooktard cave shortly.


>
and sure enough, there's
> a big red "x" over my name ... trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
> them...

The kooktard imagines he's been singled out for extra ridicule!

We're equal opportunity kooktard bashers here, Holmes. Post nonsense
and refuse to defend yourself, and you'll get blasted...just like
robcap, Healy and the rest of the Kooktard Krew.

Our friendly little government shill

Good grief, the Kooktard even thinks someone here is a "government
shill"...the paranoia you kooktards display is unbelieveable.

is trying desperately to get the
> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>
> Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
> Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence that
> scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.

It's a kook tome that few will read, and even fewer will believe. JFK
conspriacy kooks have been effectively marginalized once and for all.
The most liberal administration in history has the reins in DC, and
still no talk of investigating the so-called stunning evidence you
kooktards delude yourselves into thinking you've developed over the
years about fake Zapruder film and dart-firing umbrellas, multiple JFK
brains, sewer assassins, etc.


>
> It's a *wonderful* new year so far!!!

Crawl back into your killfilter, kooktard. You've seen your shadow,
and it's six more weeks of winter for you.

> Ben Holmes

> Learn to Get Ripped Off By My Cheap-Ass Get-Rich-Quick Scheme Website -http://www.burningknife.com

timstter

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Jan 7, 2010, 2:39:38 AM1/7/10
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LOL! Er, Benny, you think anyone outside the JFK research community is
actually going to read Horne's five volume set and be swayed by it?

Only an obsessionist like you is gonna wade through it line by line
and think something that takes the debate back to acceptance of
Lifton's Best Evidence scenario is progress.

Say, does Horne believe that the presence of *A Lady in Yellow Pants*
in the Nix film is an indicator that the Zapruder film is forged?

Even David Healy knows that that dog don't hunt, LOL!

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

aeffects

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Jan 7, 2010, 3:45:57 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 6, 9:51 pm, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
> and assure me that it is.
>
> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even John has
> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)
>
> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, there's
> a big red "x" over my name ... trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
> them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get the
> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>
> Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
> Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence that
> scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.

the evidence, it's always been the LNter's problem, bane actually,
They're only recourse is to flood the boards with miles of testimony
and no debate, just more testimony.... as witnessed by the composite
lone nut troll, David Von Pein, he's never met a piece of paper
unworthy of a blog....

HWeisberg hit the nail square on the head..... simply: "just beat'em
(nutters) over the head with the evidence..." They'll run everytime
as witnessed here especially the past few years...

aeffects

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Jan 7, 2010, 3:50:30 AM1/7/10
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Now you sit down Chuckles, you might hurt yourself -- we ubderstand
you can't stand seeing your idol worship (.john) in full panic mode.
Perhaps wifey will give you a weekend away from the of0farce so you
can travel to Milwaukee and hold his heroworships hand while he
ponders Doug Horne's missives...

You're such a go-to guy, you can lay that reverse mortgage compassion-
bullshit you lay on seniors... I'm sure he'll fall like putty into
your arms....

You still shave your legs, hon? Just curious

Gil Jesus

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:53:05 AM1/7/10
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Much has surfaced over the last few years that the Flat Earth Society
cannot respond to.
Horne's volumes are the latest in a series of nails in the coffin of
the official lies in this case.
The CIA's stooges are not well enough equipped to deal with the
testimony that shows that Oswad was innocent of killing anybody. Their
"Thorburn position" theory has been totally discredited and their "jet
effect" has never occurred to anyone other than JFK. Their
"explanations" are nothing more than opinions and their "case" against
Oswald is a a fraud.

Tonight I plan to add another nail in that coffin.

You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.

timstter

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:06:58 AM1/7/10
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LOL! Right on, Bald Goose, ol' fella!

Break a leg down @ Black Ops Radio tonight as you get Oswad [sic] off
the hook once and for all, old mate! :-)

KUTGW, Bald Goose! Bon <snicker> chance @ the radio station tonight,
Verm!

LMFAO Regards,

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Gil Jesus

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:29:01 AM1/7/10
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> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*-


I thought you only used the <snicker> in your "Bud" posts.

BTW, Thanks for proving my point, Fatman.

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mucher1

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:40:36 AM1/7/10
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In your opinion, perhaps, which doesn't count for much.

> Tonight I plan to add another nail in that coffin.

I think "beat the dead horse" is the metaphor you were looking for.

> You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
> frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.

Like calling other posters "Flat Earth Society" and "CIA stooges"?

Bud

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:43:22 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 12:51 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
> and assure me that it is.

Walt is the kind of retard that lets his imagination run wild. You
are just delusional.

> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate.

We have nothing to get desperate about, the case is solved, nothing
you kooks ever write will change the fact that Oswald killed Kennedy.
This historical fact is not impacted by asking why the Justice
Department sent Boswell to testify at the Shaw trial..

Kooks are the only subject worth study on display here.

> Even John has
> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)

You do everything you can to make yourself someone not worth
responding to. Yet you crave attention. Sort of like an unfunny class
clown.

> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, there's
> a big red "x" over my name ...

That was Healy`s lipstick.

>trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
> them...

I couldn`t care less if you respond to me, I didn`t expect you to
and I didn`t ask you to in any of the responses I wrote to your posts.
This is an open forum, a free marketplace for ideas, that you will not
support your ideas does not go unnoticed by the lurkers (if they exist
at all). I respond to shed light on the flaws of what you write. For
instance, when you claim the WC moved the time of Baker`s arrival, you
assert something that is not true, the WC had no such powers, Baker
arrived whenever he arrived, and the WC never had that time. What they
had to work with were "estimates", a word you failed to employ (and as
you often say, words have meaning) in your post because that would
make what you said correct and accurate, and being a conspiracy
retard, you must lie.

> Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get the
> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>
> Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
> Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes.

And Doug Horne digests their 85 bucks. Still another case of fools
and money being separated.

>For truly, it's the evidence that
> scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.

Retards will shift through the evidence looking for justifications
for the retarded things they want to believe until the day they die.
They will sometimes package these ideas and sell them to other
retards. What could matter less?

> It's a *wonderful* new year so far!!!

These are good times to be retarded.

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Bud

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:58:42 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 7:53 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 12:51 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
> > and assure me that it is.
>
> > But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even John has
> > deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
> > them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)
>
> > I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, there's
> > a big red "x" over my name ... trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
> > them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get the
> > topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
> > knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>
> > Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
> > Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence that
> > scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.
>
> > It's a *wonderful* new year so far!!!
>
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Ben Holmes
> > Learn to Make Money with a Website -http://www.burningknife.com
>
> Much has surfaced over the last few years that the Flat Earth Society
> cannot respond to.

Where did you get the idea that we need to respond to anything you
kooks consider relevant? Take the information that Horne has
developed, put it together with all your other retarded ideas, a put a
contending explanation of what occurred on the table that isn`t
blatantly retarded. If your ideas are superior, your version of events
should have no problem knocking the WC`s findings out of contention.
But you retards are not going to put anything on the table, you are
content to just criticize everything anyone did in connection with
this case. But you can`t convict conspirators by merely complaining
about the investigation.

> Horne's volumes are the latest in a series of nails in the coffin of
> the official lies in this case.
> The CIA's stooges are not well enough equipped to deal with the
> testimony that shows that Oswad was innocent of killing anybody.

What kind of childlike mentality requires that you believe your
opponents must be "CIA stooges"? You may as well be saying I`m in
league with the devil, or working at the behest of Neptune, Lord of
the Seas.

>Their
> "Thorburn position" theory has been totally discredited and their "jet
> effect" has never occurred to anyone other than JFK.

Show this is true, idiot.

> Their
> "explanations" are nothing more than opinions and their "case" against
> Oswald is a a fraud.

Yet Oswald, JFK`s murderer, is still dead.

> Tonight I plan to add another nail in that coffin.

Try not to hit your thumb with the hammer this time, Homer.

> You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
> frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.

It`s hard to keep up with Ben`s production, calling everyone "liars",
"shills" and "cowards".

David Von Pein

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:05:59 AM1/7/10
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>>> "You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters." <<<

You're wack-o. There's no difference in the LNers' "ad hominem
attacks" against the conspiracy clowns in this place. It's exactly the
same as it's always been (at least since I started posting here in
mid-2004). And it's always been pretty intense....and frequent.

So, as usual, Gilbert J. Jesus doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>> "[Doug] Horne's volumes [OF SHEER INSANITY] are the latest in a series of nails in the coffin of the official lies in this case. The CIA's stooges are not well enough equipped to deal with the testimony that shows that Oswad [sic] was innocent of killing anybody. Their "Thorburn position" theory has been totally discredited [LOL! AS IF THE SPECULATIVE "THORBURN'S POSITION" THEORY WAS EVER A MAJOR OR DECISIVE COG IN ANY LNers' CONCLUSION THAT OSWALD KILLED PRESIDENT KENNEDY; LOL!] and their "jet effect" has never occurred to anyone other than JFK [EVIDENTLY GIL THE KOOK MUST THINK THAT "NO JET EFFECT" EQUALS "THE CONSPIRACY KOOKS GET TO MOVE THE ONE ENTRY WOUND IN THE BACK OF JFK'S HEAD TO SOMEWHERE ELSE ON HIS HEAD"]. Their "explanations" are nothing more than opinions and their "case" against Oswald is a fraud. Tonight [ON "BLACK OP RETARD RADIO"] I plan to add another nail in that coffin." <<<

LOL reprise.

Gil thinks that the "Oswald Did It" conclusions reached by EVERY
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION which has investigated
the JFK murder case are merely "OPINIONS", with no FACTS entering into
their conclusion at all.

It makes you wonder just exactly how many MORE investigative
committees it would take to sway any members of the out-to-lunch
Anybody But Oswald club into believing that Sweet Oz shot two men in
Dallas in '63?

If a half-dozen more panels or commissions declared Oswald guilty,
would it make any difference to the CT-Kooks of the Earth? Or would
ALL of those additional six panels be looked upon as merely CIA-
sponsored robots and "accessories after the fact" in the eyes of
people like Gilbert Jesus?

(Silly question there, I know. But I wanted it in print for my
archives anyway.)

When Gil makes his second appearance on Len Osanic's Retard Radio
program on Thursday night, January 7th, 2010, perhaps he'd like to
address some of the salient common-sense-based points I brought up in
the January 5th Internet post re-printed below. It might be fun to
hear a kook named Gil attempt to debunk and nullify the logic that
resides here:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/5d357d6d49a2ca27

"In order for any kind of "Oswald Was Framed In Advance"
conspiracy to be true, the types of things Bud was talking about [at
the above link] would have to actually be considered PRE-PLANNED
EVENTS on the part of the plotters who were supposedly framing Oswald
(and for TWO murders too, seeing as how most of the kooks in this acj
place seem to want to believe that LHO didn't point a gun at Officer
Tippit either).

IOW -- The conspirators actually WANTED Oswald to leave the building
(which would mean he could have gone ANYWHERE he wanted to go after
the assassination, to a certain extent anyway, within the parameters
of LHO not having a car of his own, of course).

And if we're to believe people like Oliver Stone, Jim Garrison, and
(more recently) Jim DiEugenio, the conspirators who were setting up
Oswald apparently had no qualms whatsoever about allowing their patsy
to roam around free on the lower floors of the Book Depository right
around the time of the assassination, when the plotters SHOULD, of
course, have had a tight leash around their patsy's neck and should
have made sure he was UPSTAIRS on the sixth floor both at 12:30 and a
few minutes before 12:30.

But if we're to believe conspiracy theorists like Stone, Garrison, and
DiEugenio (among many others in the "Anybody But Oswald" fraternity),
Lee Harvey Oswald was being SET UP WELL IN ADVANCE OF KENNEDY'S
ASSASSINATION, and yet those conspiracy theorists still think that
Oswald was allowed to wander around on the first and second floors of
the TSBD at the time of the shooting. DiEugenio, for example, said
this recently (in Part 5b of his Bugliosi book review):

"Kennedy is murdered at 12:30 PM. Oswald is almost undoubtedly
on the first floor at the time." -- J. DiEugenio

But even though DiEugenio believes that Oswald was five floors away
from the place where his patsy-framers were attempting to frame him at
the time of the assassination, it's readily apparent from reading
other portions of his theory that DiEugenio ALSO thinks Oswald was
being framed way, way in advance of November 22, 1963. ....

Incredibly, per DiEugenio, all of this PRE-PLANNING to have Oswald
take the fall for JFK's murder evidently isn't inconsistent in the
slightest degree with Jim's additional belief that has Oswald eating
lunch on the first floor of the TSBD at 12:30 PM on November 22,
instead of the plotters arranging for Oswald to be present on (or at
least NEAR) the Floor Of Death at the time when the patsy-framers
desperately needed him on that sixth floor in order to set him up for
the crime.

Most conspiracy theorists, DiEugenio included, are loaded with
theories about how Oswald was merely an innocent patsy. But upon close
scrutiny (or even semi-close examination) virtually every one of those
theories gets lost in a maze of contradictions and, more importantly,
a complete LACK OF LOGIC from nearly every viewpoint.

A classic example of such illogic being:

Why on Earth would anyone wanting to frame ONLY OSWALD want to shoot
President Kennedy from a location in Dealey Plaza that would ensure
the complete failure of any such one-patsy plot?

To date, I've yet to hear a reasonable answer to the above question
from any conspiracy theorist.

And then there's the illogic (or maybe the conspiracy theorists like
Mr. DiEugenio simply chalk this one up to INCREDIBLY GOOD LUCK) that
exists within another critical part of the half-baked theories that
CTers enjoy talking about all the time -- the illogic or monumental
LUCK of the U.S. Government having the desire after the assassination
to FRAME THE VERY SAME GUY that a bunch of other people were trying to
also frame BEFORE the assassination!

Even James DiEugenio surely must admit that a scenario like that is a
tad bit unusual and unlikely. Per the late Jim Garrison and his
supporters, Oswald was being "sheep-dipped" well in advance of
November 22; and then, AFTER the assassination, a whole bunch of
different people within the U.S. Government ALSO wanted to make it
look like only Oswald was responsible for JFK's death.

Can't any conspiracy promoter see how crazy such "Plotter/Government"
like-mindedness really is?

And if we were to actually believe conspiracy nuts like Garrison, et
al, this like-mindedness in wanting to pin the whole thing on an
INNOCENT Oswald has pretty much been universal at virtually all levels
of Government and law enforcement and officialdom, beginning with
JFK's autopsy on the night of the assassination.

And then there's the FBI and the Dallas Police, which are two
organizations that many CTers think were framing LHO. And then along
comes the Warren Commission's so-called "whitewash job" in 1964.

And then the lies evidently continued with the Clark Panel in 1968,
and then the "cover-up" is passed on to the Rockefeller Commission
boys in 1975, and then it's handed down to the HSCA in the late 1970s
(at least as far as the HSCA's conclusion of Oswald being the ONLY
shooter who hit any of the limousine victims with any bullets).

Here's another DiEugenio gem:

"At Bethesda, the military severely curtails the autopsy so that
no one will ever know the true circumstances of how Kennedy was
killed. Also, the FBI switches the bullet found at Parkland Hospital
to fit the second rifle found at the TSBD, a Mannlicher Carcano." --
JD

So, according to many CTers, we have Ruth Paine, Michael Paine, George
DeMohrenschildt, the DPD, the FBI, the "military" at the autopsy, the
WC, the HSCA, and many others not named here involved in either
framing Lee Oswald in advance or covering up the true facts of JFK's
murder afterward.

And just think -- conspiracy theorists actually think it's REASONABLE
to believe junk like that."

David Von Pein
January 5, 2010

http://www.Oswald-Is-Guilty.blogspot.com

Ben Holmes

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:44:15 AM1/7/10
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In article <ef5d839e-87d0-49ae...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Gil Jesus says...
>
>On Jan 7, 12:51=EF=BF=BDam, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all j=

>ump up
>> and assure me that it is.
>>
>> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even Joh=
>n has
>> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to=

> answer
>> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)
>>
>> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, t=
>here's
>> a big red "x" over my name ... trolls are all going nuts that I won't res=
>pond to
>> them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get=
> the
>> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (=

>who
>> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>>
>> Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contai=
>ned in
>> Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence =

>that
>> scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.
>>
>> It's a *wonderful* new year so far!!!
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Ben Holmes
>> Learn to Make Money with a Website -http://www.burningknife.com
>
>
>Much has surfaced over the last few years that the Flat Earth Society
>cannot respond to.

One of my favorites is the rather huge lie the HSCA told about the medical
evidence. John is rather noticeably keeping far away from it, and the trolls
wouldn't have anything to say worth reading anyway.

Where's the evidential questions that CT'ers are afraid of? Why is this so
one-sided?


>Horne's volumes are the latest in a series of nails in the coffin of
>the official lies in this case.

Due to the price and rather scholarly approach, I don't think it will be as
widely purchased as other, more 'popular' type CT literature.

But I do plan on posting more bombshells from his volumes just to watch the
LNT'ers squirm.


>The CIA's stooges are not well enough equipped to deal with the
>testimony that shows that Oswad was innocent of killing anybody. Their
>"Thorburn position" theory has been totally discredited and their "jet
>effect" has never occurred to anyone other than JFK. Their
>"explanations" are nothing more than opinions and their "case" against
>Oswald is a a fraud.
>
>Tonight I plan to add another nail in that coffin.
>
>You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
>frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.

Yep. Absolutely!

robcap...@netscape.com

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:13:46 AM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 12:51 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all jump up
> and assure me that it is.
>
> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even John has
> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to answer
> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)
>
> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, there's
> a big red "x" over my name ...

YOUR OWN WORDS PUT THE "X" ON YOUR NAME!

> trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to
> them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get the
> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (who
> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.

YOU're the one that won't discuss the evidence! YOU either run or
simply list an item or two and then won't explain how it SHOWS OR
PROVES your claim! How come?

By the way, he has NO problem that his best friend in the world, Walt,
hardly ever lists any evidence! I wonder why Walt can do this but NO
one else is allowed to?

Hmmm.


> Ah... just wait until more people digest the huge body of evidence contained in
> Doug Horne's 'in your face' set of volumes. For truly, it's the evidence that
> scares the LNT'ers, trolls, and shills.

There won't be anything in there that scares me because I am a true
CTer, unlike you and Walt. YOU guys make a bunch of wacky claims and
then run from defending them! Like these!

**NEW – Ben never proved his claim that the FBI had AUTOMATIC
JURISDICTION over the JFK assassination because they get this with ALL
FELONIES in the U.S.**
Ben never proved his claim that LHO had his watch fixed between 10/62
and 3/31/63.
Ben never proved his claim that NO doctors are ballistic experts.
Ben never proved his claim that the 40” Carcano is a HIGH VELOCITY
rifle.
Ben never proved his claim that NO death certificate mentions a high
powered rifle.
Ben never proved Marina did in fact take CE-133A (backyard photo), and
it is AUTHENTIC.
Ben never proved his claim that LHO most definitely did receive the
40” Carcano he allegedly ordered.
Ben never proved his claim that LHO went to Mexico City in Sept./Oct.
1963.
Ben never proved his claim that the weight listed on the “Bill of
lading” was TARE weight.
Ben never proved his claim that LHO knew Silvia Duran.
Ben never proved his claim that LHO went to Mexico City because Silvia
Duran’s name is allegedly in his notebook.
Ben never proved his claim that the wound in JFK’s back could be at
the T-1 level, NOT the T-3 level (as the PH doctors, the Burkley death
certificate and the clothes said/showed) because NO one who said this
was a ballistic expert.
Ben never proved his claim that an “extremely low velocity” bullet
could do the SAME damage as was seen in JFK’s head.
Ben never proved his claim a FMJ bullet could do the damage that was
seen in JFK’s head.
Ben never proved his claim that a bullet fragment could cause the
major dent in the limo’s chrome windshield frame (experts I have read
said it had to be a full bullet).
Ben never proved his claim that CE573 was the bullet actually fired at
Gen. Walker on 4/10/63.
Ben never proved his claim that the odds “favored” the two limo
fragments came from ONE bullet based on an inconclusive result.
Ben never proved his claim an “inconclusive” was as good as a match in
a court of law.
Ben never proved his claim that NO doctor at PH was qualified to
determine a high velocity bullet killed JFK.
Ben never proved his claim that doctors use muzzle capability speed
OVER IMPACT SPEED when determing what type of bullet did the damage.
Ben never proved his claim that Lt. Day’s claim was EQUAL to and more
PERSUASIVE than Latona’s tests.
Ben never proved his claim that LHO ordered a 40” Carcano.
Ben never proved his claim that a FMJ bullet usually breaks into three
pieces on contact.
Ben never proved his claim that there is evidence showing LHO ordered
a 40” Carcano.

Ben Holmes

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:29:36 AM1/7/10
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In article <1a131308-8e37-4844...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
robcap...@netscape.com says...
>
>On Jan 7, 12:51=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>> I would ask, "Is it my imagination...", but I know the trolls would all j=

>ump up
>> and assure me that it is.
>>
>> But it does appear that the LNT'ers are getting quite desperate. Even Joh=
>n has
>> deigned to make an appearance to edit and hijack my posts, and pretend to=

> answer
>> them... (Fortunately, he's too cowardly to stay long...)
>>
>> I removed my killfilter to see what else was going on, and sure enough, t=

>here's
>> a big red "x" over my name ...
>
>YOUR OWN WORDS PUT THE "X" ON YOUR NAME!


Of course it did! That's why the LNT'ers, Trolls, and Government Shills are
getting desperate...

>> trolls are all going nuts that I won't respond to

>> them... Our friendly little government shill is trying desperately to get=
> the
>> topic off of the evidence in this case, and his friend "Don", or "Curt" (=


>who
>> knows what the real name is?) is starting to jump in too.
>
>YOU're the one that won't discuss the evidence!


ROTFLMAO!!!

<lies snipped>

timstter

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:41:16 PM1/7/10
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LOL! Say, Verm, I simply copied that <snicker> thing from Bud;
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as they say.

So your position is that I am now also Bud, is it? What happened to
your super dooper ISP snooping, Verm? Is that all out the window now
too?

KUTGW, Verm!

timstter

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:41:57 PM1/11/10
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BUMP! Yoo hoo! Verm! Do you think I am the poster Bud?

Bud

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:26:43 PM1/11/10
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If you are me than who am I?

aeffects

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Jan 12, 2010, 12:30:42 AM1/12/10
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shithead.... are you boobsey talking bra sizes again? We've told you
shitheads countless times take yopur personal bullshit off the
board... who the hell cares if your sneaking around the women's
department at Wally-world? Geez, such drivel from lone nut trolls...

Bud

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Jan 13, 2010, 2:56:27 PM1/13/10
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On Jan 12, 12:30 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 11, 7:26 pm,Bud<sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 9:41 pm, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 8, 11:41 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 8, 12:29 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 7, 8:06 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 7, 11:53 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
> > > > > > > frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.
>
> > > > > > LOL! Right on, Bald Goose, ol' fella!
>
> > > > > > Break a leg down @ Black Ops Radio tonight as you get Oswad [sic] off
> > > > > > the hook once and for all, old mate! :-)
>
> > > > > > KUTGW, Bald Goose! Bon <snicker> chance @ the radio station tonight,
> > > > > > Verm!
>
> > > > > > LMFAO Regards,
>
> > > > > > Tim Brennan
> > > > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*-
>
> > > > > I thought you only used the <snicker> in your "Bud" posts.
>
> > > > > BTW, Thanks for proving my point, Fatman.
>
> > > > LOL! Say, Verm, I simply copied that <snicker> thing fromBud;
> > > > imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as they say.
>
> > > > So your position is that I am now alsoBud, is it? What happened to

> > > > your super dooper ISP snooping, Verm? Is that all out the window now
> > > > too?
>
> > > > KUTGW, Verm!
>
> > > > LMFAO Regards,
>
> > > > Tim Brennan
> > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > > BUMP! Yoo hoo! Verm! Do you think I am the posterBud?
>
> > If you are me than who am I?
>
> shithead.... are you boobsey talking bra sizes again? We've told you
> shitheads countless times take yopur personal bullshit off the
> board... who the hell cares if your sneaking around the women's
> department at Wally-world? Geez, such drivel from lone nut trolls...

Oh, my tardling, Oh, my tardling, oh my tardling little girl,

You are lost and gone for ever, dreadful sorry, little girl..

timstter

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Jan 14, 2010, 6:00:39 PM1/14/10
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On Jan 12, 2:26 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 9:41 pm, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 11:41 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 8, 12:29 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 8:06 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 7, 11:53 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > You can tell just how desperate they are by the intensity and
> > > > > > frequency of their ad hominem attacks against posters.
>
> > > > > LOL! Right on,BaldGoose, ol' fella!

>
> > > > > Break a leg down @ Black Ops Radio tonight as you get Oswad [sic] off
> > > > > the hook once and for all, old mate! :-)
>
> > > > > KUTGW,BaldGoose! Bon <snicker> chance @ the radio station tonight,

> > > > > Verm!
>
> > > > > LMFAO Regards,
>
> > > > > Tim Brennan
> > > > > Sydney, Australia
> > > > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*-
>
> > > > I thought you only used the <snicker> in your "Bud" posts.
>
> > > > BTW, Thanks for proving my point, Fatman.
>
> > > LOL! Say, Verm, I simply copied that <snicker> thing from Bud;
> > > imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as they say.
>
> > > So your position is that I am now also Bud, is it? What happened to
> > > your super dooper ISP snooping, Verm? Is that all out the window now
> > > too?
>
> > > KUTGW, Verm!
>
> > > LMFAO Regards,
>
> > > Tim Brennan
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > BUMP! Yoo hoo! Verm! Do you think I am the poster Bud?
>
>   If you are me than who am I?
>
> > LMFAO Regards,
>
> > Tim Brennan
> > Sydney, Australia
> > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

We'll have to ask Gil (Bald Goose) Jesus, I guess!

aeffects

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Jan 15, 2010, 3:37:40 AM1/15/10
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hey FAT'S you lost any weight yet, can you see your toes yet? Hell can
you see your.... ROTFLMFAO! We already know the answer to that.....
perk up troll...

aeffects

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Jan 15, 2010, 3:39:33 AM1/15/10
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On Jan 7, 6:05 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip the nutter-troll inanity>

hey shithead.... keep those disinfo blogs a comin'

Gil Jesus

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Jan 15, 2010, 9:06:54 AM1/15/10
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I'll bet the Fatman hasn't seen his penis since the 5th grade.

timstter

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Jan 19, 2010, 5:45:05 AM1/19/10
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Say, lookit ol' Verm, reduced to swappin' dick jokes with the likes of
David *aeffects* Healy, LOL!

Way to go, Verm! No wonder you are such a welcome guest down @ Black
Ops <snicker> Radio, me ol' Bald Verm mate!

The days of your *All Jesus All The Time* Christian video site sure
seem a LOOOONG way away, though:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian-teen/browse_frm/thread/f8b45b622d0391bc/6205df9472b4f60e#6205df9472b4f60e

Still, bald hypocrisy is pretty much de rigueur down @ Black Ops, I
hear.

KUTGW, Bald Verm! :-)

LMFAO Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

ps Say, Gil, where DID the Christian vid site go, BTW? You didn't take
it down out of sheer embarrassment did you? :-) TB

aeffects

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Jan 19, 2010, 8:39:20 AM1/19/10
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won't work Studley... we know your into fudge, now pull on those
tender loins of your, dig out that disnfo manual and get the fuck BUSY
-- ya think the morons are paying you to push your personal, perverted
agenda or sumpin'? GAWD what-a-lone nut, dumb shit!

On Jan 19, 2:45 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 16, 1:06 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 3:39 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 7, 6:05 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip the nutter-troll inanity>
>
> > > hey shithead.... keep those disinfo blogs a comin'
>
> > I'll bet the Fatman hasn't seen his penis since the 5th grade.
>
> Say, lookit ol' Verm, reduced to swappin' dick jokes with the likes of
> David *aeffects* Healy, LOL!
>
> Way to go, Verm! No wonder you are such a welcome guest down @ Black
> Ops <snicker> Radio, me ol' Bald Verm mate!
>
> The days of your *All Jesus All The Time* Christian video site sure
> seem a LOOOONG way away, though:
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian-teen/browse_frm...

Sam Brown

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Jan 19, 2010, 7:19:00 PM1/19/10
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"timstter" <tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ac8e20ff-7bcc-4b25...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian-teen/browse_frm/thread/f8b45b622d0391bc/6205df9472b4f60e#6205df9472b4f60e

KUTGW, Bald Verm! :-)

LMFAO Regards,

I heard he got nervous when someone reported his unsavoury activities to his
local authorities. ;-)

aeffects

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Jan 19, 2010, 7:22:58 PM1/19/10
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On Jan 19, 4:19 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "timstter" <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:ac8e20ff-7bcc-4b25...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 16, 1:06 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 3:39 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 7, 6:05 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip the nutter-troll inanity>
>
> > > hey shithead.... keep those disinfo blogs a comin'
>
> > I'll bet the Fatman hasn't seen his penis since the 5th grade.
>
> Say, lookit ol' Verm, reduced to swappin' dick jokes with the likes of
> David *aeffects* Healy, LOL!
>
> Way to go, Verm! No wonder you are such a welcome guest down @ Black
> Ops <snicker> Radio, me ol' Bald Verm mate!
>
> The days of your *All Jesus All The Time* Christian video site sure
> seem a LOOOONG way away, though:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian-teen/browse_frm...

aeffects

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Jan 19, 2010, 7:25:31 PM1/19/10
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On Jan 19, 4:19 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "timstter" <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:ac8e20ff-7bcc-4b25...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 16, 1:06 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 3:39 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 7, 6:05 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip the nutter-troll inanity>
>
> > > hey shithead.... keep those disinfo blogs a comin'
>
> > I'll bet the Fatman hasn't seen his penis since the 5th grade.
>
> Say, lookit ol' Verm, reduced to swappin' dick jokes with the likes of
> David *aeffects* Healy, LOL!

slamin' Samantha *doin' brown* Brown, how is it hangin' Studley? He
shithead you terrified of those 45 questions that .john chokes on?


> Way to go, Verm! No wonder you are such a welcome guest down @ Black
> Ops <snicker> Radio, me ol' Bald Verm mate!
>
> The days of your *All Jesus All The Time* Christian video site sure
> seem a LOOOONG way away, though:
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian-teen/browse_frm...

Sam Brown

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Jan 19, 2010, 7:33:56 PM1/19/10
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"aeffects" <aeffe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:60cf8a97-56e1-4ff5...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 19, 4:19 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "timstter" <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ac8e20ff-7bcc-4b25...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 16, 1:06 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 3:39 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 7, 6:05 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > <snip the nutter-troll inanity>
>
> > > hey shithead.... keep those disinfo blogs a comin'
>
> > I'll bet the Fatman hasn't seen his penis since the 5th grade.
>
> Say, lookit ol' Verm, reduced to swappin' dick jokes with the likes of
> David *aeffects* Healy, LOL!

slamin' Samantha *doin' brown* Brown, how is it hangin' Studley? He
shithead you terrified of those 45 questions that .john chokes on?

Sorry little fella, you're addressing the wrong person. But I'm doing
fantastically well thanks for asking. As far as Ben's inane little list of
long ago answered questions, I think John has been doing a stellar job of
knocking kung fu boy on his ample arse. Too many cooks junkie, too many
cooks. LOL

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