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VON PEIN GETS "BONEHEAD OF THE YEAR AWARD"

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Gil Jesus

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Dec 29, 2008, 6:56:13 AM12/29/08
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Brokedad

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Brokedad

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On Dec 29, 7:51�am, Brokedad <temptypock...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 29, 3:56 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=3682d6e919ef4d976a08ae0...
>
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...

The competetion was extreme!

Only those who believed "THE SHOT THAT MISSED"

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0068a.htm


Made it into the "Finals"!


P.S. For those who are unaware, Z313/aka the second shot impact was
located at approximate survey stationing 4+65.3.
Approximately 30 feet prior to the Third/Last/Final/Directly in front
of James Altgens impact. (4+95 location)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0464b.htm

David Von Pein

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>>> "VON PEIN GETS "BONEHEAD OF THE YEAR AWARD"." <<<


Like with all kooks who believe in stuff that never happened (and
never could have possibly happened), it doesn't matter how many times
a rational person responds to his "2 Head Shots From Behind" idiocy,
the kook will continue to believe what he wants to believe (as
always).

Thomas H. Purvis thinks that Oswald was, indeed, the lone
shooter...but, like Mark Fuhrman, he's put a nifty little twist on the
evidence. Purvis thinks that there were TWO head shots, instead of
just one.

And even though he believes Oswald WAS shooting with Rifle "C2766",
Purvis also is of the opinion that there could be "up to 50" Carcano
rifles with that exact same serial number on them (even though not ONE
other such rifle has surfaced in 45 years).

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=564f96c6826f72d1394a7cac32611169&showtopic=13867

And Purvis' nonsense that he started yesterday on the Education Forum
(linked above) regarding the Secret Service film I posted at YouTube
is a real howl, with Purvis actually thinking that the person in the
film who is placing the "cones" (pylons) in the street to mark the
locations where the SS thought the shots had occurred along Elm Street
placed the "Shot #2" pylon/cone at a point which represents Z-Frame
313.

But as anyone who doesn't have a ridiculous theory to peddle can
easily see, it's the "Shot #3" cone that is being placed very close to
a "Z313" position in the street. Whereas the cone representing the
second shot is placed much too far EAST along Elm St. to qualify as a
"Z313" shot/cone. Skip to the 2:35 mark in this video:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=trs8W-gLwJE&fmt=18

Purvis, btw, thinks that there was a second "head shot" AFTER Z313.
And he bases that idiotic theory on the testimony of Emmett Hudson and
Jim Altgens, plus the Secret Service "plat maps", which Purvis loves
to study in great detail.

Apparently the testimony of a couple of witnesses and the SS plat maps
are supposed to suddenly make a SECOND entry hole appear in John
Kennedy's head.

~shrug~

=================================

DVP VS. PURVIS:


www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/1ddbd022eedc3a2f/bac6812ff9d8f836

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f0935c13d0391d05


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Brokedad

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Dec 29, 2008, 7:41:53 PM12/29/08
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On Dec 29, 1:06�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "VON PEIN GETS "BONEHEAD OF THE YEAR AWARD"." <<<
>
> Like with all kooks who believe in stuff that never happened (and
> never could have possibly happened), it doesn't matter how many times
> a rational person responds to his "2 Head Shots From Behind" idiocy,
> the kook will continue to believe what he wants to believe (as
> always).
>
> Thomas H. Purvis thinks that Oswald was, indeed, the lone
> shooter...but, like Mark Fuhrman, he's put a nifty little twist on the
> evidence. Purvis thinks that there were TWO head shots, instead of
> just one.
>
> And even though he believes Oswald WAS shooting with Rifle "C2766",
> Purvis also is of the opinion that there could be "up to 50" Carcano
> rifles with that exact same serial number on them (even though not ONE
> other such rifle has surfaced in 45 years).
>
> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=564f96c6826f72d1394a7ca...

>
> And Purvis' nonsense that he started yesterday on the Education Forum
> (linked above) regarding the Secret Service film I posted at YouTube
> is a real howl, with Purvis actually thinking that the person in the
> film who is placing the "cones" (pylons) in the street to mark the
> locations where the SS thought the shots had occurred along Elm Street
> placed the "Shot #2" pylon/cone at a point which represents Z-Frame
> 313.
>
> But as anyone who doesn't have a ridiculous theory to peddle can
> easily see, it's the "Shot #3" cone that is being placed very close to
> a "Z313" position in the street. Whereas the cone representing the
> second shot is placed much too far EAST along Elm St. to qualify as a
> "Z313" shot/cone. Skip to the 2:35 mark in this video:
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=trs8W-gLwJE&fmt=18
>
> Purvis, btw, thinks that there was a second "head shot" AFTER Z313.
> And he bases that idiotic theory on the testimony of Emmett Hudson and
> Jim Altgens, plus the Secret Service "plat maps", which Purvis loves
> to study in great detail.
>
> Apparently the testimony of a couple of witnesses and the SS plat maps
> are supposed to suddenly make a SECOND entry hole appear in John
> Kennedy's head.
>
> ~shrug~
>
> =================================
>
> DVP VS. PURVIS:
>
> www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/1ddbd022...
>
> www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f0935c13d0391d05
>
> =================================

Hey Pinhead!

Just in case you did not bother to figure it out, the FBI, during
their 2/7/64 assassination re-enactment and survey work, also left the
third/last/final shot impact point down at Survey Stationing 4+95.

Which by the way happens to be some 30 feet farther down Elm St. from
the Z313 impact location, as well as being directly in front of the
James Altgens position.

(Just as Altgens testified) When he finally got to do so!

Are you of the highly misguided opinion that you; VDB; and the WC are
more qualified than the US Secret Service, to resolve the issues of
the assassinatioin of JFK????

For the enjoyment of the reading public, why not make a half-assed
attempt to explain exactly why the WC could not place the impact point
of the first shot, when in fact, Time/Life; the Secret Service; as
well as the FBI, clearly established impact point locations on Elm St.
for this shot?

Then, one just may ask exactly why you are so gullible that you quite
obviously fell for "THE SHOT THAT MISSED", when in fact, the SS as
well as the FBI determined that there was no SHOT THAT MISSED.

While you are on this "roll" of explaining all of this to the viewing
public, why not take a shot at explaining exactly whey the WC deemed
it necessaryi to "alter" their own survey data and then attempt to
hide the fact that they had altered this critical informatiion.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/textsearch/advancedResults.do

Kennedy Assassination Chronicles, Volume 7, Issue 3 pg 1
Found in: Kennedy Assassination Chronicles
multiple hits in this document

================

Simply stated, you (Von Parrothead) do not know enough in regards to
the forensic; ballistic; pathologicl; and/or physical facts, to
actually speak coherently on the subject matter.

Which is of course basically what one would expect from a "Parrot".

At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the head
twice! Which happens to be a forensic; physical; and pathological
fact!

Z313, and then again some 30-feet farther down Elm St., directly in
front of James Altgens.

P,S. Be sure and explain to everyone how (on paper) the WC placed
James Altgens along Elm St. between the Mary Moorman/Jean Hill
position and the TSDB.
As opposed to being across the street from the staircase/steps which
lead from the stockade fence down to Elm St.

Mr. HUDSON - Well there was a young fellow, oh, I would judge his age
about in his late twenties. He said he had been looking for a place to
park and he walked up there and he said he finally just taken a place
over there in one of them parking lots, and he come on down there and
said he worked over there on Industrial and me and him both just sat
there first on those steps. When the motorcade turned off of Houston
onto Elm, we got up and stood up, me and him both. He was on the left
side and I was on the right and so the first shot rung out and, of
course, I didn't realize it was a shot, what was taking place right at
that present time, and when the second one rung out, the motorcade had
done got further on down Elm, and you see, I was trying to get a good
look at President Kennedy. I happened to be looking right at him when
that bullet hit him - the second shot.
Mr. LIEBELER - That was when the bullet hit him in the head; is that
correct?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes; it looked like it ht him somewhere along about a
little bit behind the ear and a little bit above the ear.
Mr. LIEBELER - On the right-hand side or the left-hand side?
Mr. HUDSON - Right hand.

- Right along there is about where President Kennedy's car was when he
was hit - at the time I was looking right at him when the shot struck
him, when the bullet struck him.
Mr. LIEBELER - How many shots did you here altogether?
Mr. HUDSON - Three.
Mr. LIEBELER - Three shots?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - Are you sure about that?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - You say that it was the second shot that hit him in the
head; is that right?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes; I do believe that - I know it was.
Mr. LIEBELER - You saw him hit in the head, there wasn't any question
in your mind about that, was there?
Mr. HUDSON - No, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - And after you saw him hit in the head, did you here
another shot?
Mr. HUDSON - Yes, sir.

Mr. HUDSON - Yes; so right along about even with these steps, pretty
close to even with this here, the last shot was fired - somewhere
right along in there.

=============================================================

Recognizing your reading comprehension disability, have someone
explain it to you Parrothead!

YoHarvey

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Dec 29, 2008, 7:48:05 PM12/29/08
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> explain it to you Parrothead!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the
head
twice! Which happens to be a forensic; physical; and pathological
fact!


A blatant absolute lie. Have you not read the autopsy report?

Brokedad

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Dec 29, 2008, 7:57:36 PM12/29/08
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> A blatant absolute lie. �Have you not read the autopsy report?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Have you not discussed JFK's head wounds with any of the autopsy
surgeons?

David Von Pein

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>>> "At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the head twice!" <<<

When did I ever "state" such a ridiculous thing?

Answer -- Never.

I said that YOU (a kook/nutcase) believe that JFK was hit in the back
of the head twice. But I certainly never "stated" that I believe any
such cockeyed theory.

I know full well (as does everybody else who's ever had the misfortune
of talking to you about this case) that such a stupid "2 Head Shots
From The Rear" belief is only in your head and your head alone. I
doubt you'll find another living, breathing person on Planet Earth who
believes such a foolish thing.

REPLAY:

>>> "At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the head twice! Which happens to be a forensic; physical; and pathological fact!" <<<


LOL. Purvis' dreams have suddenly become "fact", folks.


Funny, though, that the 17 pathologists who looked into this matter
for the various Government panels since '63 all failed to see what
Purvis The Retard sees so clearly.

Shouldn't that make Purvis scratch his head in bewilderment....if only
for a second or two? (After all, how could ALL SEVENTEEN of these guys
be liars/idiots--including a CTer's favorite theorist, Dr. Wecht?)


http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/011.+JFK+AUTOPSY+PHOTO?gda=dixYvUgAAAAVlk2Xfx8sVjADRR-uPdeJE6MpN4sn-mH50SKJ6V4uGhZ5oknr4PK9NRubH_RFRg6DH7k_HBP_EtyS7XaNp0ALGjVgdwNi-BwrUzBGT2hOzg

http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/011b.+JFK+HEAD+X-RAY?gda=Gag65EYAAAAVlk2Xfx8sVjADRR-uPdeJE6MpN4sn-mH50SKJ6V4uGqPlYm89YSDeyQ8tKODzyAoWKo62F5uyu956xNc8ZALZE-Ea7GxYMt0t6nY0uV5FIQ

The Bottom Line----

There is/was no SECOND entry hole in the back of JFK's head.

Everybody knows this (except Purv-Kook evidently).

The above "bottom line" sinks Purvis' boat -- and it will sink it
tomorrow, the day after, and the day after that.

BTW, when is your peer-reviewed book coming out, Purv-Kook? Can we
look for it on store shelves by 2013?

The book's going to be called "ONLY PURV KNOWS", isn't it?

YoHarvey

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> surgeons?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Have you not discussed JFK's head wounds with any of the autopsy
surgeons?

Argumentative. You did not answer my question.

Brokedad

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Dec 29, 2008, 8:20:02 PM12/29/08
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On Dec 29, 5:05�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the head twice!" <<<
>
> When did I ever "state" such a ridiculous thing?
>
> Answer -- Never.
>
> I said that YOU (a kook/nutcase) believe that JFK was hit in the back
> of the head twice. But I certainly never "stated" that I believe any
> such cockeyed theory.
>
> I know full well (as does everybody else who's ever had the misfortune
> of talking to you about this case) that such a stupid "2 Head Shots
> From The Rear" belief is only in your head and your head alone. I
> doubt you'll find another living, breathing person on Planet Earth who
> believes such a foolish thing.
>
> REPLAY:
>
> >>> "At least you correctly stated that JFK was hit in the rear of the head twice! Which happens to be a forensic; physical; and pathological fact!" <<<
>
> LOL. Purvis' dreams have suddenly become "fact", folks.
>
> Funny, though, that the 17 pathologists who looked into this matter
> for the various Government panels since '63 all failed to see what
> Purvis The Retard sees so clearly.
>
> Shouldn't that make Purvis scratch his head in bewilderment....if only
> for a second or two? (After all, how could ALL SEVENTEEN of these guys
> be liars/idiots--including a CTer's favorite theorist, Dr. Wecht?)
>
> http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/011.+JFK+AUTOPSY+PHOTO...
>
> http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/011b.+JFK+HEAD+X-RAY?g...

>
> The Bottom Line----
>
> There is/was no SECOND entry hole in the back of JFK's head.
>
> Everybody knows this (except Purv-Kook evidently).
>
> The above "bottom line" sinks Purvis' boat -- and it will sink it
> tomorrow, the day after, and the day after that.
>
> BTW, when is your peer-reviewed book coming out, Purv-Kook? Can we
> look for it on store shelves by 2013?
>
> The book's going to be called "ONLY PURV KNOWS", isn't it?

Actually! It's title has as much to do with the complete idiots who
have accepted the WC as being fact, as it does with further idiocy of
those who chase mythological multiple assassins and body snatchers
around Dealey Plaza.

And, just so the record is clear!

JFK was struck in the "Cowlick" portion of the top rear of the head by
the bullet which struck at the Z313 impact, and he was again struck at
the lower edge of the hairline at the base of the neck by that shot
which was fired and struck as JFK was directly in front of James
Altgens location, some 30-feet farther down Elm St.

In addition to that, the bullet which struck JFK in the edge of the
hairline at the base of the neck, also penetrated through the coat
worn by JFK and created an acute angle penetration through the coat as
well as the liner of the coat, prior to having exited and struck JFK
at the base of the neck.

Anyone who has actually "read" the autopsy report, just may want to
take it as well as the Supplemental Report to a good Forensic
Pathologist.

Most of them have little difficulty in differentation of the two
seperate and distinctive bullet pathways which exist within the brain
of JFK.

Especially since the last shot struck the brain at the edge of the
occipital lobe and thereafter went on through the mid-brain region
prior to exit.


Or, one could become a "Parrot" if they have no other capabilities,
and thereafter run around yelling about how good of a job the WC did.


YoHarvey

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> and thereafter run around yelling about how good of a job the WC did.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Purvis? You'll fit in well here with the other lunatic kooks on this
NG. Your theory is right up there with Connally shot JFK and
Zapruder never existed. Welcome aboard. BTW, lose the special forces
cap. You look like a moron.

David Von Pein

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Dec 29, 2008, 8:53:46 PM12/29/08
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>>> "And, just so the record is clear!" <<<


Oh, it's clear alright -- you're making shit up as you go
along.....just as all CTers do.

There aren't two separate entry holes in the back of JFK's head, and
even Purvis knows this. But he'll pretend he doesn't know it, because
he wants to pull a Fuhrman and be "different", while at the same time
remain an LNer.

People like Fuhrman and Purvis The Kook have me stumped -- i.e., they
get to within shouting distance of accepting the obvious truth about
the assassination, but they just can't quite cross that line in the
sand marked "WC".

Instead, they'd rather "think outside the box" and start inventing
theories that the hard evidence simply does not support and that
nobody else on Earth believes (including the many, many people who
were assigned the task of investigating the case for the WC and HSCA).

So, who should we believe and trust? ---

1.) The WC and HSCA and the 17 pathologists who say that JFK had ONE
entry wound in his head.

or:

2.) Thomas H. Purvis (a certifiable kook).

I kinda doubt anybody is going to lose any sleep over that decision.

aeffects

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Dec 30, 2008, 12:06:42 AM12/30/08
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On Dec 29, 4:48 pm, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:

sitdown moron..... the big boys are back in town

aeffects

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Dec 30, 2008, 12:08:11 AM12/30/08
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YoHarvey <----- the great Vietnam Vet impersonator, speaking aloud on
this board----- shame on you, you illiterate tampoon....

aeffects

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Dec 30, 2008, 12:13:06 AM12/30/08
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sucka.... can't stand up to WCR exhibits? Typical of Lone Nut/WCR
supporting morons..... all your denial won't change the simple fact,
you, David VonPein (aka Dave Reitzes), haven't a clue about the case
concerning JFK assassination.... All the bugg-a-boo .john Lone Nut
glory seekers have stepped on their dicks....... ROTFLMFAO! ~~~ Send
in the clowns....~~~

David Von Pein

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Dec 30, 2008, 12:32:16 AM12/30/08
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Why bother posting in this thread, Healy? You certainly don't agree in
the slightest way with anything Tom Purvis says about the
assassination. You don't agree with him about anything. Absolutely
nothing.

Purvis thinks Lee Oswald was the lone assassin of JFK.
Purvis thinks three and only three shots were fired.
Purvis doesn't believe there were any "Knoll" shooters.

Yes, Purvis is a big ol' kook. That's undeniably true. But he's a kook
for different reasons that you are, Healy.

So why bother entering this thread and attempting to (seemingly)
defend a person (Purvis) you completely disagree with?

Is it just merely an excuse to do a little DVP-bashing, Healy? Why, of
course that's the reason. Everybody knows that. You've been obsessed
with ol' DVP since 2006.

You can't let one thread I'm involved in pass you by, even though in
this thread you appear to be defending someone who you also must think
doesn't have "a clue about the [JFK] case".

Isn't that sweet?

Silly as all get out....but sweet.


Or would you like to go on record now, in this thread, with a
statement saying that you think Thomas H. Purvis has got it right
(i.e., JFK was killed by 3 shots, all from behind, with shots #2 & 3
both striking JFK in the back of the head--shot 2 at Z313 and shot 3
at circa Z353)?

Is that what you believe now, Mr. Crackpipe?

Either way he goes here, Healy's padded cell awaits.

aeffects

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Dec 30, 2008, 12:59:10 AM12/30/08
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son, you're Dave Reitzes, therefore you're a liar and, a coward....
Vinnie can't buy your way out of this one.... Carry on, troll!

David Von Pein

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Dec 30, 2008, 1:35:44 AM12/30/08
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<lots of extra padding being applied to Healy's cell>

Gil Jesus

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Dec 30, 2008, 9:52:47 AM12/30/08
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On Dec 29, 8:23�pm, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Purvis? �You'll fit in well here with the other lunatic kooks on this
> NG. � Your theory is right up there with Connally shot JFK and
> Zapruder never existed. �Welcome aboard. �BTW, lose the special forces
> cap. �You look like a moron.-


.........It was YoHarvey, under the screenname baileynme who claimed
that the Oswald rifle had no scope when found. Baileynme-spiffy-
YoHarvey wrote:

"The scope was NOT on the MC when it was found. It was laying
alongside the weapon."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e3aedb4b219289ad

But a photo of Lt. Day in the TSBD picking the rifle up by the strap
SHOWS a scope ATTACHED:

http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/gjjmail/41602cXrkH0*ic1Lb0imwIK1Lw8sYtF*VU
------------------------------------------------------------

YoHarvey posts that LBJ advisor Jack Valenti was alive and 88 years
old. He posted:

"Jack Valenti, now 88 distinguished himself in government and the
business community."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b39cb9052a2cc092


Then, when YoHarvey finds out Valenti is dead, he corrects his error
with another error, posting that :

"Jack Valenti died several years ago."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/12c43f221b70e4da


When, in fact, Jack Valenti died LAST YEAR at the age of 85:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/movies/27valenti.html?_r=1


quite the researcher, that yoharvey........roflmao

aeffects

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Dec 30, 2008, 10:19:25 AM12/30/08
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On Dec 29, 10:35 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> <lots of extra padding being applied to Healy's cell>

save it douche-bag, you're gonna need the padding when daBug's HBO
extravaganza becomes the next mega tv-flop.... LMAO!

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