LURKERS: How to handle a troll and beat them at their own game
Gil Jesus
cdddraftsman
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We need you to clear up these big whoppers you laid as eggs
first !
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Gil Jesus caught telling another Big Whopper ! # 22 of 178......!
The Two Men in the Window ......!
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The Two Men in the Window
Gilstapo :
Roger Craig describes the two men Arnold Rowland told him
he saw in the sixth floor window 15 minutes before the arrival
of JFK's motorcade. Also, a female witness confirms Rowland's
observation that there were two men on the sixth floor.
Off...................
Of course Howard Brennan who had a more advantageous view
reported he saw only one person . And by the time of the Hughs
Film the windows are being photograhed and show only
'Grain Noise' walking around .
See Frontline : Who Was LHO .
Sounds like Gilstapo outta keep his day janitor job .
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Here are some highlights of Gilstapos Video's Gone Wild
With Cornspiracy ! :
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Gil Jesus caught telling another Big Whopper ! # 21 of 178......! The
Timing Problem .......!
The Timing Problem
Gil :
" Dr. Josiah Thompson explains the problem with the timing of the
shots and the operation of the Oswald rifle "
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In this hilarious sequence, conspiracy author Josiah Thompson
misstates Frazier's results, and proceeds to cycle the mechanism of
the rifle in 1.83 seconds, all the while explaining that it can't be
done in under 2.3 seconds. Clicking on the below link will download a
video clip of Thompson :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tink.rm
FBI weapons expert Robert Frazier got off three accurate shots with
Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in 4.5 seconds -- recycling the
mechanism and reaiming the rifle twice.
Again, you will need Real Player :
http://www.real.com/player/index.html?
to play this clip from your hard drive after you have downloaded it.
It's in almost every conspiracy book: the claim that Oswald could not
possibly have gotten off the shots in the necessary time. Conspiracy
authors always claim that Oswald had under six seconds to get three
shots off -- although the Warren Commission was vague on this and
most contemporary lone gunman theorists believe he has about
8.5 seconds. Further, conspiracy authors exaggerate the difficulty i
n Oswald's "shooting feat." Craig Zirbel, in his book The Texas
Connection, badly misrepresents the results of the Warren
Commission's shooting tests.
Compare Zirbel's account with what really happened :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/zirbel.txt
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Gil Jesus caught telling another Big Whopper ! # 19 of 178...!
I Tell The Truth .......!
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justme :
This article by Dale Meyers says it all concerning the tatics and
disrespect that CT's have for the memory of JFK. Ringling Brothers,
Barnum & Bailey have nothing over the idiotic antics of the CT clowns
that thrive in Dealy Plaza daily and congregate each anniversary of
Kennedys death. This is what makes the CT community proud...
the Unamerican Misfits!!
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/news/news_11230701.htm
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Yo Harvey :
Now they all lie like Chico Jesus/Robcap/CuriousGeorge....Healy and
Holmes!!! This is sooooo much fun. I believe we should have a daily
contest: Let's judge "the lie of the day".....and vote on which CT
deserves recognition. We'll then post his/her pic in a thread for
all to see!!!
BTW, I note with interest that since members of the Education Forum
dissed good old Healy and called him an idiot, he no longer posts
there. Why aren't we this lucky?
In addition, Chico Jesus/Robcap/CuriousGeorge also has not posted on
that newsgroup since they began ignoring him and his videos. They
must have spoken to his wife!
Hey Chico? Make yourself right at home on our LN NEWSGROUP. Say
something totally ignorant!!
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cd :
http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2004/11/65793
From Lee Harvey Oswalds Perspective ! :
1) Proves Gil Jesus a stinking commy liar !
2) Proves Rossley is a old , incompetent bullshiter !
3) Proves Healy a garden variety faggot with queer idea's !
4) Proves Holmes can't hit the broadside of the conspiracy barn !
5) Proves Old Laz & Co . are Con-Spiracy 'pussy' whipped !
Download : JFK Reloaded :
http://www.the-underdogs.info/downloadfile.php?file=games/j/jfkreload...
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cd : NO ! And here's why :
So here we see how a person like Gil Jesus's Intellectual (?)
dishonesty takes over and trys to perpetrate a JFK Assassination
Conspiracy Hoax by first off telling half the story based on only a
part of the evidence ( The Z-film ) to foist his lie . No where in
his
presentation does he bring all the evidence together at the same
time because it would destroy his pet theory . His eye-witness's
not only contradict one another but many times they contradict
themselves . That's why in 44 years we have two of everything
in this assassination and several different ways this assassination
ended when in fact it could of happened in only one way .
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Gil Jesus caught telling another Big Whopper ! # 17 of 178...!
Gil : Was JFK Trying to Cough Up A Bullet ?
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" A review of parts 1 & 2 with closeups of the President. Zapruder
Frames 225-237 seem to show Kennedy trying to cough up a bullet that
is lodged in his throat "
Off .........................
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3ygq23n&s=1
Simply stated :
After 44 years of serious research , none of it done by the critical
community , you would have to be a retarded mongoloid from Mars , if
after stealing this floperroo , that went nowhere immediately , some
15 years ago , you tried to resurrect it using stewpider logic that
kept pace with a much more stewpider viewing audience .
It's this fact alone , which makes laughter a virtuous comodity when
seeing Gil put the hammer down , missing entirely and afterwards ,
all to the fake refrain of while holding his breath :
(-: " Perhaps Conspiracies Do Happen After All " :-)
CUT !
tl
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Gil Jesus caught telling another big whopper ! # 16 of 178..!
Katzenbach Memorandum ......!
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Gil "
" Harold Weisberg discusses the Katzenbach Memorandum of November 25,
1963 and its legal advise of how the case against Oswald had to be
presented to the American people "
Off .....................................
The late Harold Weisberg : Co-Founder of the Great JFK Assassination
Conspiracy Hoaxing of America , Fellow Co-Conspirator , JFK
Assassination
Con-Artist and Conspiracy Theorist Apologist Was amoungst the
earliest to get it all wrong for
Profit :
(Self Published Books)
Self Aggranddizement
(Video Appearances) and
Self Glorification (Personal Appearances At Assassination Rallys)
Has nothing to say other than since it was painfully obvious that LHO
had killed JFK and had acted alone , that he did so as to make people
believe this before it was a fact and was covering for conspiracists
that he was himself unable to name in a career that spanned many
decades of useless research that should of been turned inwards but
because of his typical CT self centered assnine attitude towards what
is right , justfull and the truth , he chose wrong , injustice and
become a liar for personal reasons that would border on the criminal
had anyone with half a brain took him seriously . That's what makes
him a *Superstar* amoung the *Stewpid* half brained
Vidiots at YouTube who as everyday passes become the laughing stock
of the world .
tl .
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Gil Jesus caught telling another big whopper ! # 14 of 178....!
Was It Johnson ? ......!
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Gil :
Conclusion. The unidentified fingerprint found on the sixth floor of
the TSBD is compared to the fingerprints of Johnson henchman Malcolm
Wallace.
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No it wasn't Johnson and AAMOF it wasn't even Malcolm Wallace
either ! How embarrassing :-) ..........Heheheheheheheehe !
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Just to clarify, this was proved to be an erroneous identification.
Wallace is not tied to the "sniper's nest" by fingerprints.
Darby is either deceased or is no longer certified by the IAI ;
the match was incorrect .
Kasey Wertheim
IAI Certified Latent Print Examiner
Gil ( taking the word of John Kelin ......Ouch !....
Prof. Rahn tore him a new rear end when they got into
a e-mail discussion ) :
> JFK Breakthrough?
> Text by John Kelin; photograph Copyright (c) 1998 by Mike
> Blackwell
> A Texas-based assassination research group has publicly
> named a man believed to have left a previously unidentified
> fingerprint on a box making up the so-called "sniper's nest" on
> the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
> Brown presented data showing a 14-point match between
> Wallace's fingerprint card, obtained from the Texas Department
> of Public Safety,and the previously unidentified print, a copy of
> which was kept in the National Archives. The match was made
> by A. Nathan Darby, an expert with certification by the
> International Association of Identifiers.
tl
PS : Box Score : Gil batting : 0 for 14
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Gil Jesus caught telling another big whopper ! # 12 of 178....!
Julia Ann Mercer...!
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The Julia Ann Mercer yarn .
Gil : "The experience of assassination witness Julia Ann Mercer as
told to Jim Garrison (Kevin Costner).Scenes from Stone's "JFK". "
Adding comments has been disabled for this video / Ratings disabled
gfn02 :
I've been trying to find material on the real Mercer, but I think she
may have been afraid for her life, and kept low. Any ideas?
GJJdude :
That is correct. She never appeared publicly. Mercer feared for her
life and the only information on her is written.
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The reality , as usual when dealing with con-spiracy guff , couldn't
be farther from the truth , unless of course you read the
'Gospel according to Judas' :
Julia Ann Mercer :
Mercer, you may remember, told the story of seeing Jack Ruby at the
wheel of a pickup truck near the Triple Underpass just a couple of
hours before the assassination. She claimed another man took a gun
case from the back of the pickup and walked up a grassy incline
toward the Grassy Knoll. What really happened?
First, the transcript from the Dallas Police Department radio log :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer1.txt describing the broken
-down pickup truck that was the basis of Mercer's tall tale.
Then the account of Secret Service agent Forest Sorrels, to whom
Mercer told an early version of her story : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer2.txt
Mercer's deposition given to the Dallas County Sheriff's Department
on November 22, 1963 : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer3.txt
Mercer's statements to the FBI in the week following the
assassination :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer4.txt
Statements from Dallas Police Department officers who witnessed the
breakdown of the pickup truck on November 22nd, 1963 :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer5.txt
Mercer's story as recounted in Jim Garrison's book, A Heritage of
Stone :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer6.txt
Mercer's story as told to conspiracy author Henry Hurt. You'll note
one extremely interesting addition to the story here :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mercer7.txt
The question, as with all assassination witnesses is: is she
credible?
Heheheheheheh ! You Betcha She Is ! .............. NOT !
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Gil Jesus caught telling another big whopper ! # 11 of 178......!
Ruby & Oswald ....!
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Did Ruby & Oswald Know Each Other ?
Gil Jesus Lies Again ! :
Witnesses answer the question as to whether or not Jack Ruby and
Lee Harvey Oswald knew each other :
This raises more questions about Gil Jesus , using know liars from
video's that he ripped off , after not doing proper research on the
people who are in the video , that are suspect in being co-
conspirators in the JFK assassination hoaxing of america .
*Beverly Oliver :
Many Dealey Plaza films and photos show a figure dubbed "the Babushka
Lady" standing on the south side of Elm, filming the assassination
with what appears to be a movie camera. A woman named Beverly Oliver
has come forward, claiming to have been the Babushka Lady, and
telling a variety of interesting stories about Dealey Plaza, Jack
Ruby, and
Lee Oswald. Just how credible is Oliver? :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/oliver.htm
*Delphine Roberts :
The most important witness to later (but not during the Garrison
investigation) place Oswald with Banister at 544 Camp Street was
Delphine Roberts, Banister's secretary. The House Select Committee
didn't believe her testimony. Author Gerald Posner interviewed her in
1992, and found her no more believable : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/delphine.txt
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Gil Jesus caught telling another big whopper ! # 3 of 178 .....!
Badgeman
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Gil :
Badgeman : Did the Dallas Police murder JFK ?
Conclusion : There never was even a Badgeman to begin with . If there
was , he would of been 2'-4" tall at the grassy knoll or on a 13'-0"
ladder in the middle of the parking lot ! Hahahhahahahaha !
Daaaaaaaa ? ............ I don't think so ! :-)
And here's why ! : Secrets of a Homicide :
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman_3.htm
Gil Jesus is such a quacky dunce !
The point has been made Gil you again failed in your task of
being rigorous in your research efforts . This information has
been out there for years now and you totally ignored it . Your
video is based upon information that is debunked in the article
that you failed to read . You are a failure and your Video's are
taking a dive that not you or Rossley or aeffects can boost
with any amount of lie's . )-:.Sad face by you clowny dunce . :-(
Ben Holmes
Gil Jesus says...
I got all the way to the third sentence.
Didn't see the need to read any further... :)
Burly...@gmail.com
> In article <6d953943-3d6e-43d4-9599-b0f5d435d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Gil Jesus says...
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> >see it here:
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> I got all the way to the third sentence.
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> Didn't see the need to read any further... :)
Go read "Billy Goats Gruff" and discover the true definition of a
troll. According to the book, Mr. Holmes fits the description to the
"T".
Gil Jesus
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> �Go read "Billy Goats Gruff" and discover the true definition of a
> troll. �According to the book, Mr. Holmes fits the description to the
> "T".
Insulting people are we now, hypocrite ?
THE RELIGIOUS FRAUD KNOWN AS BURLYGUARD
I don't believe much of what Burlyfraud says. First of all, he's here
to disrupt the discussion and he's using the topic of religion
( particularly, my own beliefs ) to achieve that.
He doesn't really know if I'm Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu
Buddhist, or Muslim. he assumes I'm a "born again Christian".
All he/she knows is that I posted scripture and what it said about
homosexuality.
Unable to goad me into a debate about MY religion, he's now taken his
campaign of distraction to the next level and has resorted to insults
and threats.
Born-again Christians don't do that. As he judges me, so will he be
judged.
And I'm not the only one he insults. He insults other Cters as well:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/2962f408cafc8406
The second thing is that he is an internet stalker. I have about a
half dozen stalkers in this newsgroup who watch and read every single
post that I make. YoHarvey, justme, and sam brown are but just three.
Burlyguard is in this group too, and I must say, that it's not a
group
that a God-fearing person would like to be aligned with.
Burlyfraud's stalking of me started because he could not post
comments
to my videos. He had a problem with that and it was explained to him
why ALL comments (both positive and negative ) were blocked from
those
videos. And it was explained to him MORE THAN ONCE. Apparently, that
explanation was not good enough for him. Too bad for him.
A true Born-again Christian would WELCOME someone blocking attempts
by
porn sites to infiltrate a comments section.
But not Burlyfraud. Apparently his need to express himself is more
important than protecting children from online smut.
The third thing that damages his credibility as a Christian is that
his righteous indignation appears to be directed against only one
side--the CT side. He voices no opposition or shock to the vulgarity
of the LN side. He has no problem with LNers threatening CTers with
bodily harm, inciting others to murder CTers, the posting of names
addresses and phone numbers of CTers, or the posting of the names and
addresses of everyone on a particular street and putting the children
of those people in jeopardy.
A true Born-again Christian couldn't sit silent through that. But
Burlyfraud can----and DOES.
NOT ONCE has he EVER spoken out against ANY of THOSE practices.
In fact, he's NEVER spoken out against ANYTHING the LN trolls write,
and as such I'm inclined to agree with Dave Healy that he is a PHONY
and deserves to be killfiltered, which he is.
Distraction, insulting and partisanism is Burlyfraud's game. He's a
troll just like the rest albeit slightly more polite.
But a skunk who hides behind the Cross is still a skunk. And you can
smell him a mile away.
BURLYFRAUD ON PROFANITY:
Funny how the "Christian" calling himself Burlyfraud has a problem
with profanity when it comes from the CT side, but has NO PROBLEM
with
the daily profanity spewing from the LN side.
IS BURLYFRAUD AGAINST ALL PROFANITY, OR IS HIS JUDGMENT AN UNJUST
JOKE
TO BE IGNORED ? Why doesn't he speak out against THEIR profanities ?
"Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the
small
as well as the great..."
(Deut. 1:17)
Burlyfraud's behavior is internet stalking. His/her
obsession with stalking my posts and his/her need to continue
insulting me in any way he/she can is not "Christian" behavior.
Neither is threatening blackmail to prevent the postings of scripture
in an appropriate newsgroup.
Burlyfraud is OBVIOUSLY an enemy of God's Word. And will do anything
to keep it from the light of day.
Not only does He/she avoid addressing the evidence, he/she admits to
stalking ..... "Wherever you go........I am going to find you ...."
Christians don't judge people, but they DO judge sin. Burlyfraud
would rather remain silent about the sin and judge the sinner
instead.
That is, if the sinner is a CT.
It is OBVIOUS that Burlyfraud's value system is directly linked to
whether or not one believe's the Warren Commission.
Burlyfraud's display is not "love". It is instead admitted vengeance,
judgment and hatred, from which all sin comes.
Your insults are as sinful as anybody's, Mr. "Holier-than-thou".
And on THAT measure, may God have mercy on YOUR soul.
Burly...@gmail.com
As I pointed out before, Mr. Gil, you are one pathetic individual.
Burly...@gmail.com
By the way, Mr Gil...I will be posting these and other posts from you
at these "Christian" newsgroups you have started so people can see the
real you.
justm...@gmail.com
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Gil Jesus is a loser, bottom line. The fact that he keeps posting the
same garbage about those that have exposed him for the lying,
hypocritical bigot he is, says it all. This is his retailiation and he
still loses the battle. Why? Because those of us that have exposed
him, have never sworn to anything that Jesus seems to think we've done
wrong. Unlike Jesus, we haven't posted bible scripture and claimed we
were holier then thou like Jesus has. We haven't condemned homosexuals
and told them they will burn in hell. We haven't preached the bible
about other peoples sins while we sin continuously for all to see.
This is where the line is drawn between normal people and Gil Jesus.
Gil Jesus is not normal, he is a sick individual that doesn't have a
clue what the meaning of humanity means. He has stooped to the lowest
levels trying to make himself appear better then anyone else, while at
the same time demonstrating what a person with a severe mental illness
can do. Gil Jesus has done the following, and then wonders why we have
exposed him as the slime he is:
1. Impersonated an 11 yr old child and used vulgarities towards other
posters. Especially gays and women.
2. Created various screen names and talked to himself in posts
praising his own work to make it look like there
were others that actually agreed with and defended him.
3. Used a program to clone other posters email and screen names and
made posts using vulgar and ridiculous
claims by the cloned poster.
4. When exposed and caught red handed, Gil Jesus continually lied and
created even more screen names trying
deperately to save himself the embarrassment HE created.
5. Preached bible scriptures about homosexuals and sins, when he
himself was committing sins far worse.
6. Gil Jesus tries to lure in teenagers to a Christian youtube
channel he created. He posts his same garbage
about homosexuals on other Christian newsgroups and if you look,
he is trashed at those newsgroups too.
Gil Jesus not only has mental issues, but a personality disorder. He
apparently thinks that he is above everyone else and a true Christian.
Gil Jesus is a hypocrite. He's homophobic, hes a bigot and a racist.
Gil Jesus is what the KKK would classify as one of their own. No job,
no life and at 54 years old still tied to his mothers apron strings.
Rather then seek professional help, Gil Jesus spends his life on this
newsgroup (he's laughed off other forums) trying to make a name for
himself. The only fame Gil Jesus has accomplished here is being a sick
bastard who will get what he deserves in the end.
tomnln
http://whokilledjfk.net/tom_lowery.htm
lowery has a FEAR of evidence/testimony>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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