FOR McADAMS
tomnln
There was ONLY one other George Bush employed by the CIA during that time
frame.
He was a "Lowely Clerk".
I have him on video claiming it was NOT him.
I also have an FBI memo dated 11/22/63 stating that "George Bush of the CIA
called the
FBI to report a suspect named James Parrott.
If you need it I can post it on my website.
"John McAdams" <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
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> On 15 Oct 2007 23:47:06 -0400, eric_r_carlson <aliv...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone answer one of these two questions for me?
>>
>>1. Where did the meeting between the FBI and a "George Bush of the
>>CIA" this memo by J. E. Hoover take place? Dallas? Washington D.C.?
>>Miami?
>>http://tomflocco.com/Docs/Jfk/PresJfkBush.gif
>>
>
> That's not the George Bush you want it to be.
>
> In fact, nobody knows who this "George Bush" was.
>
> George H.W. Bush didn't work for the CIA, he had his own oil company.
>
> Even if he was a CIA contact of some sort, that doesn't count, since
> the language clearly implies a CIA employee.
>
>
>>2. Also, who is the author and recipient of this Dear Mr. Bush letter
>>concerning Miami Cuban exiles in 1961?
>>http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=22737&relPageId=2
>>Letter came from:
>>St. Petersburg, fla.
>>October 5, 1961
>>
>
> It doesn't say "Dear Mr. Bush."
>
> It says "Dear Bush." That sounds like somebody with the first name
> "Bush."
>
>
>>Unauthorized Biography of George H. W. Bush:
>>-----QUOTE ON-----
>>"It makes perfect sense for George Bush to be called in on a matter
>>involving the Cuban community in Miami, since that is a place where
>>George has traditionally had a constituency. George inherited it from
>>his father, Prescott Bush of Jupiter Island, and later passed it on to
>>his own son, Jeb."
>>-----QUOTE OFF-----
>>http://www.tarpley.net/bush8b.htm
>>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't see any evidence this was written to George
> H.W. Bush.
>
>
>>=========================================
>>
>>Date: November 29, 1963
>>
>>To: Director
>>
>>Bureau of Intelligence and Research
>>
>>Department of State
>>
>>From: John Edgar Hoover, Director
>>
>>Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
>>
>>NOVEMBER 22, 1963
>>
>>Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the
>>Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the
>>Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might
>>capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid
>>against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F.
>>Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.
>>
>>Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami
>>area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban
>>community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did
>>not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the
>>feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only
>>to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no
>>plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.
>>
>>An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and
>>who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that
>>these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President
>>may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and,
>>although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.
>>
>>The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr.
>>George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William
>>Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by
>>Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.
>>
>>==================================================
>>
>
> Interesting, but *the* George Bush didn't work for the CIA at the
> time.
>
>
>>TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63
>>
>>FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL
>>
>>SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
>>
>>ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
>>
>>JOHN F. KENNEDY
>>
>>
>>At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore
>>Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston,
>>telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long
>>distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.
>>
>>BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to
>>furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and
>>source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of
>>killing the President when he comes to Houston.
>>
>>BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of
>>Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated
>>that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH,
>>telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party
>>Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding
>>the identity of PARROTT.
>>
>>BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in
>>the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His
>>office telephone number is CA 2-0395.
>>
>>
>
> What's the point of this?
>
> It simply shows Bush being a public-spirited citizen.
>
> .John
> --
> Kennedy Assassination Home Page
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
lazu...@webtv.net
oilman, as McAdams would have us believe, how come he was appointed
Director of the CIA?----Old Laz
cdddraftsman
Having a good military record , having been shot down by Japanese
AAA
fire while piloting a combat mission against a strategic enemy outpost
in
WWII and then being rescued at sea ( Filmed no less , that would make
Zapruder blush with shame ) his family had a long heritage of being
wild
catters , a breed of people who put their money where their mouths
are ,
(No oil found , no money made) undoubtedly contributed and did no
harm in his rise to power as CIA Director and then Presz.
Catch my drift ? .............tl
tomnln
http://whokilledjfk.net/george_bush.htm
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tomnln
Then, how do you get to teach a class?
Then, How does Ken Rahn get to teach a class?
"John McAdams" <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
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> On 22 Oct 2007 19:23:34 -0400, robc...@netscape.com wrote:
>
>>On Oct 21, 7:13 pm, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Wonder what he thinks about the WTC collapse ? Does he hold the same
>>> views
>>> as his twin bedmate of disaster when it comes to logic , Jim Fetzer ,
>>> who
>>> thinks the planes were actually hollowgrams and the towers were felled
>>> by
>>> space beams ?
>>>
>>> I do know one thing , if the $ arraingments were right , Jim Marrs would
>>> put on a performance that would make you think any number of things that
>>> are impossible . He seems to have fooled robcap all right ............
>>> :-
>>> ( ................tl
>>
>>Marrs is so crazy that is why he has taught classes on the
>>assassination at the university level. What have you done? There are
>>no credits for adding links to e-mails. RC
>>
>>
>
> I think you'll find it was a "adult enrichment" or "continuing
> education" class. I don't think any reputable academic department
> would let Marrs teach a class on the assassination.
>
> .John
> --
> The Kennedy Assassination Home Page
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
tomnln
I suppose you can Prove that the HSCA considered Groden a "Crackpot"
but, Published his testimony anyway???
"John McAdams" <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
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> On 22 Oct 2007 23:58:07 -0400, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> This isn't what the "HSCA said."
>
> This is Groden's testimony. It's crackpot stuff, but they were polite
> enough to let him testify, and his testimony was recorded.
>
>
>
>>Here's what the HSCA said>>>
>>
>>
>> There is photographic and X-ray evidence supporting the observations
>>of the Dallas doctors--McClelland and Jenkins--that there was left
>>temporal entrance wound.
>> I feel it is the committee's obligation to have the medical panel
>>reexamine the X-rays and photographs, in the area I have pinpointed, and,
>>if they disagree with my conclusion, explain what this circle represents,
>>if not a bullet hole, and also explain the corresponding image
>>
>>X-rays.
>>
>>VIII. RECOVERED BULLET DURING JFK AUTOPSY
>> Although there is a great deal of evidence that a bullet was
>>recovered from President Kennedy's body at the time of the autopsy, none
>>of the evidence of this bullet was ever mentioned in the public hearings.
>> To recap, Warren Commission document No. 371 reveals "one receipt
>>from the FBI for a missile removed during the examination of the body." An
>>examination of the receipt shows that a bullet was removed from the body
>>of President Kennedy during the autopsy in the evening of November 22,
>>1963. This bullet was handed over to and signed for by FBI agents Francis
>>X. O'Neill and James W. Sibert.
>> The January 4, 1964, issue of the Journal of the American Medical
>>Association (vol. 187 No. 1) stated on page 15 that the bullet was
>>recovered during the autopsy.
>> The Washington Post of December 18, 1963, after checking the report
>>with the FBI before publication, stated that a bullet was recovered from
>>deep within the President's shoulder. This was again confirmed in the Post
>>on May 29, 1966.
>> The fact of the recovery of this bullet fully destroys the myth of
>>the "single bullet," and that evidence of an additional gunshot during the
>>assassination was suppressed
>> Commander Humes removed this bullet but there is no indication from
>>which direction the bullet came. If it was from the front, there had to be
>>at least two assassins. If the bullet came from behind and as the best
>>evidence will show, did not exit the President's body, considering the
>>number and timing of the shots in any combination, there had to be more
>>than one assassin.
>> The issue has been raised that the bullet or missile may have been a
>>fragment of a bullet or missile. This seems highly unlikely since Sibert
>>and O'Neill were professional enough to know the difference between an
>>entire bullet and a small fragment. In addition to this, the FBI itself
>>did confirm the Washington Post that it was "a bullet" and not just a
>>fragment.
>> It should be noted that this entire area of discussion occurred many
>>months before the single bullet theory was invented to try to prove the
>>"lone assassin theory."
>>
>>ATTACHMENT 1: SOFT EDGE MATTE INSERTION
>>
>> Given the present nature of these photographs, the only method that I
>>am aware of that could have been used to alter them is called soft edge
>>matte insertion.
>>
>>
>>Page 303
>>303
>>
>>"claviger" <histori...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1193089723.7...@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Oct 22, 10:09 am, mnhay27 <mnha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Oct, 03:16, Barb Junkkarinen <barbREMOVE...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On 21 Oct 2007 19:19:39 -0400, mnhay27 <mnha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > >The most popular modern version of the lone assassin theory features
>>>> > >a
>>>> > >first shot miss at frames 160-161 of the Zapruder film. The problem
>>>> > >is
>>>> > >that there is just no evidence to support this scenario. As we know,
>>>> > >a
>>>> > >sixth floor shooter's view would have been blocked by an oak tree
>>>> > >between
>>>> > >z166 and z210. Even the commission, exhibiting a rare display of
>>>> > >common
>>>> > >sense, rejected the idea of a shot before z166 "since it is unlikely
>>>> > >that
>>>> > >the assassin would deliberately have shot at him with a view
>>>> > >obstructed by
>>>> > >the oak tree when he was about to have a clear opportunity." (R98)
>>>> > >In
>>>> > >fact, as the FBI re-enactment shows, the President's back would have
>>>> > >been
>>>> > >partly blocked by branches at z161. (18H86) Gerald Posner and others
>>>> > >have
>>>> > >claimed that Rosemary Willis holds the key, "Beginning at frame 160,
>>>> > >a
>>>> > >young girl in a red skirt and white top who was running along the
>>>> > >left
>>>> > >side of the President's car, down Elm Street, began turning to her
>>>> > >right.
>>>> > >By frame 187, less than 1.5 seconds later, the enhancement clearly
>>>> > >shows
>>>> > >she has stopped, twisted completely away from the motorcade, and was
>>>> > >staring back at the Texas School Book Depository." (Case Closed,
>>>> > >p320)
>>>> > >In
>>>> > >fact, she hasn't stopped until Z195 at which time she appears to
>>>> > >look
>>>> > >back, not to the TSBD, but to the next car in the parade.
>>>>
>>>> > >Placing the first shot is actually a very simple matter when one
>>>> > >uses
>>>> > >the
>>>> > >Z film in conjunction with other photographic evidence and
>>>> > >eyewitness
>>>> > >testimony. The two most important photos were taken by Rosemary's
>>>> > >father,
>>>> > >Phillip Willis, and by Hugh Betzner. Willis testified that he
>>>> > >snapped
>>>> > >his
>>>> > >fifth picture reflexively when he heard the first shot, "in fact,
>>>> > >the
>>>> > >shot
>>>> > >caused me to squeeze the camera shutter, and I got a picture of the
>>>> > >President as he was hit with the first shot. So instantaneous, in
>>>> > >fact,
>>>> > >that the crowd hadn't had time to react." (7H493) In the Z film we
>>>> > >can
>>>> > >see
>>>> > >that Willis has brought his camera up to his face at z184 and begins
>>>> > >to
>>>> > >lower it again after z205 and his picture corresponds with z202.
>>>> > >Taking
>>>> > >into account his own reaction times, this places the first shot at
>>>> > >roughly
>>>> > >z189 to z191. Betzner stated that he heard the first shot after he
>>>> > >took
>>>> > >his last photo and had started to wind his camera. (19H467) His
>>>> > >photo
>>>> > >corresponds with z 186. This coincides perfectly with Willis' photo
>>>> > >and
>>>> > >recollection and places the first shot around z189 to z191.
>>>>
>>>> > >The actions of both Mr. and Mrs. Kennedy on the Z film fully support
>>>> > >a
>>>> > >first shot/first hit at z189 to 191. As the HSCA noted, "at
>>>> > >approximately
>>>> > >Zapruder frame 200, the President's movements suddenly freeze, as
>>>> > >his
>>>> > >right hand seemed to stop abruptly in the midst of a waving motion.
>>>> > >Then,
>>>> > >during frames 200-202, his head moves rapidly from right to left.
>>>> > >The
>>>> > >sudden interruption of the President's hand- waving motion, coupled
>>>> > >with
>>>> > >his rapid head movements, was considered by the photographic panel
>>>> > >as
>>>> > >evidence of President Kennedy's reaction to some 'severe external
>>>> > >stimulus'" (HSCA 82) When Jackie reappears from behind the Stemmons
>>>> > >Freeway sign at z220-21 she is looking quizzically at her husband.
>>>> > >In
>>>> > >fact
>>>> > >she has been looking in his direction the whole time behind the sign
>>>> > >and
>>>> > >began looking his way at z200. As Jackie testified before the Warren
>>>> > >commission "I was looking this way, to the left, and I heard these
>>>> > >terrible noises. You know. And my husband never made any sound. So I
>>>> > >turned to the right. And all I remember is seeing my husband, he had
>>>> > >this
>>>> > >sort of quizzical look on his face, and his hand was up, it must
>>>> > >have
>>>> > >been
>>>> > >his left hand." (5H180)
>>>>
>>>> > You might enjoy an article I wrote several years ago; Dr. Doug
>>>> > DeSalles did a follow up a few months later. Mine is titles: First
>>>> > Shot/First Hit Circa Z190. It can be found online at:
>>>>
>>>> >http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/issues_and_evidence/single-bullet_theory...
>>>>
>>>> > It may still be on the Lancer site too ...as it was first published
>>>> > in
>>>> > the Lancer Assassination Chronicles, and later in the magazine of a
>>>> > JFK group in England.
>>>>
>>>> > I have the text of Doug's follow up article that I can e you as an
>>>> > attachment if you are interested.
>>>>
>>>> > Would be interested in your comments on both articles.
>>>>
>>>> > Barb :-)
>>>>
>>>> > - Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, yes I have read your excellent article and would love to
>>>> read the follow-up. I have to say that IMO, the evidence of a first
>>>> shot at z189-91 is fairly conclusive. In fact, when we use Willis'
>>>> photo properly, it's a bit of a no-brainer.
>>>>
>>>> mnha...@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> mnhay27,
>>>
>>> Very interesting analysis. The first shot could have come as early as
>>> Z187
>>> based on the little girl stopping at that point and the reaction of Gov.
>>> Connally looking hard to his right. The first jiggle comes at Z189 if
>>> that
>>> indicates an involuntary reaction by the person holding the camera. The
>>> second shot appears to have struck the President at Z229 based on the
>>> splayed reflex action of the elbows. This is a well known reaction to a
>>> sudden spinal cord injury. Using these two frames renders a time
>>> interval
>>> of 2.3 seconds.
>>>
>>>>From Z229 to Z313 is 4.6 seconds. The time sequence between shots is 2.3
>>> + 4.6 = 6.9 seconds based on the 18.3 frames per second estimate.
>>> Researchers arrived at that average speed based on the (18.0 - 18.5)
>>> hi-lo
>>> measurement range. Some witnesses said the first two shots were close
>>> together and other witnesses said the last two shots were closer
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Until now I assumed the second opinion of witnesses was more correct.
>>> The
>>> impression of two sounds so close together at the head shot, indicates a
>>> loud echo may be the cause for misperception. This could be a clue the
>>> head shot was from a different rifle. The sounds people heard was
>>> depended
>>> on where they were standing in Dealey Plaza. The multiple sound affects
>>> from a rifle can be confusing. Experts claim one shot can create 3
>>> different sounds: muzzle blast, shock wave, and impact. Add to that
>>> list,
>>> echo.
>>>
>>> A few witnesses claimed to hear 6 to 9 shots. They may have been
>>> standing
>>> in just the right spot to hear muzzle blast, shock wave, and echo.
>>> Impact
>>> shots have a different sound. There is one more sound to consider, the
>>> sound of a ricochet. Another factor is that witnesses standing at a
>>> right
>>> angle to the path of a supersonic bullet may be confused as to the
>>> source
>>> of the shot. It is interesting that witnesses who heard a group of three
>>> shots all said they came from the same direction, whether the RR
>>> overpass,
>>> the Grassy Knoll, or the TSBD building. I can't remember any witness who
>>> said, "Two came from the building and one came from the Grassy Knoll."
>>> However, there are a few who said one shot came from the limousine
>>> itself.
>>> Did the ricochet impact off the pavement cause this impression or was
>>> there a shot at street level behind the limousine?
>>>
>>> It is possible LHO only fired 2 shots that day. He would have learned in
>>> the Marine Corp to keep an empty shell in the chamber so the weapon can
>>> be
>>> dry fired without damaging the firing pin. It is possible he pulled the
>>> trigger and heard nothing but the clink of the firing pin hitting the
>>> shell. Realizing he screwed up he rechambers rapidly and fires a wild
>>> shot
>>> that ricochets off the pavement. He calms down and fires a second shot
>>> that hits the President in the upper back. This scenario would account
>>> for
>>> three spent shells on the floor from only 2 shots fired. Someone claimed
>>> the three witness below on the Fifth Floor first said they only heard
>>> two
>>> shots, but later changed their story to 3 shots. Does anyone know if
>>> this
>>> story is true?
>>>
>>> Then LHO hears the sound of another gunshot go off at street level. He
>>> stands for a moment peering down at the motorcade, stunned that someone
>>> else is shooting at the limousine. He immediately hides his rifle and
>>> heads for the stairs. Calmly he gets past the slow thinking DPD officer
>>> coming up the stairs and manages to leave the building by the front
>>> door.
>>> One witness is convinced he saw LHO get into a station wagon that pulled
>>> up and quickly took off. However, LHO is seen on a city bus and ends up
>>> taking a taxi to his neighborhood.
>>>
>>> If there was a shot from a another rifle at street level it would most
>>> likely sound different. In fact some witness did say one shot sounded
>>> different, Clint Hill being one of those witnesses.
robc...@netscape.com
> Then, how do you get to teach a class?
> Then, How does Ken Rahn get to teach a class?
I was just reading some of the "bogus factoids" on McAdams site. It
is hilarious. He was saying how Garrison lied about the motorcade
being changed because he was looking at the paper from Nov. 22nd and
it showed the route going straight down Main St. McAdams admits it
does show this but blames in on the scale size of the map!!!!! He
said it is too small to show the turns. Here's an idea - make the map
bigger. Funny stuff.
He was trying to discredit Lane to for his work with Markham. I kept
reading the same thing over and over - she someone who wasn't Oswald.
He has experts saying it is common to handle guns without gloves and
leave no finger prints!!!!! How do the police catch anyone?
David Von Pein
One of my favorite quotes by Jim Garrison is this one (from his '67
Playboy interview), which fully indicates what a kook he was.........
"The clincher, as far as I'm concerned, is that four cartridges
were found at the scene of the {Tippit} slaying. Now, revolvers do not
eject cartridges, so when someone is shot, you don't later find
gratuitous cartridges strewn over the sidewalk -- unless the murderer
deliberately takes the trouble to eject them. We suspect that
cartridges had been previously obtained from Oswald's .38 revolver and
left at the murder site by the real killers as part of the setup to
incriminate Oswald." -- J. Garrison; 1967
~~~~~
Absolutely incredible, huh? Garrison obviously could not read. Because
Oswald DID, based on observations of witnesses, "take the trouble to
eject" the empty cartridges from his revolver, and the Warren
Commission said this plain as day on page #168 of the WR. For some
reason, Garrison totally ignored the unimpeachable evidence of
multiple witnesses re. the fact that the killer (later positively
identified as Lee Oswald) was "shaking shells from the gun" as he fled
the Tippit murder scene on foot.
Mr. Garrison's built-in pro-conspiracy bias vividly shines through via
his remark about the Tippit bullet shells. For, he had to have known
(or should have known) that there were witnesses at the Tippit murder
scene who watched the killer shaking shells out of his revolver,
rendering Garrison's above remarks completely worthless.
But Jim obviously liked his own version of events better than that of
the official WC rendition of what happened. Pathetic.
And this nut named Garrison is still being touted as a hero in many
(Mellen-like) quarters.
Incredible.
David Von Pein
Mr. McAdams is correct (as per his norm). Garrison was a known teller
of tall (very tall) tales. The Nov. 22 DMN map is completely
irrelevant...no matter WHAT it shows. Why? Because we KNOW the
motorcade route was NOT "changed" at the "last minute".
How can we know this?
Because the Elm-St. turn was ALREADY PRINTED IN THE TWO DALLAS PAPERS
THREE DAYS EARLIER (on 11/19).
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0323a.jpg
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/fbacd51dfe2f074c
So the only way a CTer can argue in favor of the route being changed
at the 11th hour is to claim it was changed TWICE -- i.e., it was
originally going to go down Elm on Nov. 19; but then it was changed to
go straight down Main (per the 11/22 DMN map); but then at the last
minute "the conspirators" changed it BACK to going down Elm again
(just exactly as depicted in the papers on 11/19).
Anybody want to go for the "IT WAS CHANGED TWICE" theory?
>>> "He {McAdams} was trying to discredit Lane to for his work with Markham." <<<
Damn right. And rightly so. Lane's treatment of Markham was atrocious
at best. More.....
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8a64790b792f771f
>>> "I kept reading the same thing over and over - she someone who wasn't Oswald." <<<
You really don't know this case very well, do you?
Markham NEVER wavered in her belief that Oswald was positively
Tippit's killer. (Despite Mark Lane's trying to shove a "bushy-haired"
fellow down her gullet.)
Gil Jesus
> I was just reading some of the "bogus factoids" on McAdams site. It
> is hilarious. >
> He has experts saying it is common to handle guns without gloves and
> leave no finger prints!!!!! How do the police catch anyone?
If you think that's funny, look at this:
Gil Jesus
Using a prior posting of yours as a source is not evidence. It's
repetition of your opinion. You've been told this before. When you do
such things, you show yourself to be a fraud.
It's like saying. "I this is the way it was and if you don't believe
me, then just go and ask me".
justm...@gmail.com
Neither is using your videos....practice what your preach Bigot Boy.
muc...@gmail.com
> Von Pein:
>
> Using a prior posting of yours as a source is not evidence. It's
> repetition of your opinion. You've been told this before. When you do
> such things, you show yourself to be a fraud.
Has it now become fraudulent to neglect to preface a link to a
previous post with a sentence explaining that it is not a "source"?
The URL in question was obviously to a newsgroup post, and the content
of that post included links to WC exhibits and was relevant to what
was being discussed. You guys are hard to please.
> It's like saying. "I this is the way it was and if you don't believe
> me, then just go and ask me".
Like Rob above, you misrepresent and ridicule, but fail to point out
any errors. Neither of you deal with the earlier published
descriptions and map of the motorcade route that include Elm Street.
Speaking of sources: are you going to provide documentation for your
claim that JBC, at a 10/4/63 meeting, pressured JFK into agreeing on
the Trade Mart luncheon site? You have been stating this, rather
assertively, in various threads, including this one:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/5ba00c1c61ce9eaa
tomnln
justme does NOT like witness interviews on Video.
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TESTIMONY OF MR. AND MRS. JOHN B. CONNALLY, DALLAS, TEX.
Mr. CONNALLY. Thank you, Mr. Dodd.
Mr. CORNWELL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Governor Connally, I would like to begin by asking you if it would be
accurate to state that you had a leading role in the decisionmaking process
that led to the President's trip to Dallas on November 22, 1963?
Mr. CONNALLY. Yes, Mr. Cornwell, it certainly would be accurate to say
that.
Mr. CORNWELL. When did the possibility of that trip first become a
matter of concern to you?
Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. Cornwell, I wouldn't characterize it as a matter of
concern, but the possibility of a trip to Texas arose, as I recall, in the
spring of 1962.
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"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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David Von Pein
Exactly.
I've explained that very thing in a previous post or two to the CTers
here, but I certainly don't care to explain it in every single message
I post that includes a link to an earlier post of mine.
But, since the CT-Kooks won't actually CLICK on the earlier posts that
I post, they will never see that WITHIN those earlier posts I often
offer up many "sources" for the position I'm taking on that particular
sub-topic.
But, to a kook, linking to a previous post that contains multiple
"sources" within it somehow makes me a "fraud".
Go figure.
>>> "You guys are hard to please." <<<
The above sentence deserved a reprise (due to its built-in accuracy).
I guess Gil Jesus must think that the motorcade route was, indeed,
changed TWICE, huh?
Otherwise, where's the beef here at all?
Hard to please indeed.
Oswald leaves a popcorn trail leading to his guilt in TWO murders (and
there's not a shred of proof to indicate that any of this popcorn
trail is tainted or planted or whatever covert term you wish to
apply).....and yet the Anybody-Except-Oswald CTers still aren't the
least bit satisfied or convinced with ANY of the evidence making up
that popcorn trail.
Many CTers seem to think ALL of the popcorn in that trail is faked or
tainted in some fashion. Although how they manage to get around
Oswald's wild gun-waving and murder-attempting actions within the
Texas Theater is a bit of a puzzler to this writer. But, then too,
since I'm not a conspiracy-loving idiot, I might have a harder time
trying to think like one.
And I also can't see how those same CTers manage to skirt around the
logic that I exhibit within the post linked below (re. the
authenticity of Bullet CE399).
Disclaimer (to satisfy Gil & Co.) --- The linked article below does
not contain any additional "source" material or source links within
it. But, there's an ample amount of common sense and logic included
nonetheless. .....
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bceb46435b39817f
muc...@gmail.com
more specific.
On 24 Okt., 20:10, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> CONNALLY HSCA Volume I Page 12
>
> TESTIMONY OF MR. AND MRS. JOHN B. CONNALLY, DALLAS, TEX.
>
> Mr. CONNALLY. Thank you, Mr. Dodd.
>
> Mr. CORNWELL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
>
> Governor Connally, I would like to begin by asking you if it would be
> accurate to state that you had a leading role in the decisionmaking process
> that led to the President's trip to Dallas on November 22, 1963?
>
> Mr. CONNALLY. Yes, Mr. Cornwell, it certainly would be accurate to say
> that.
>
> Mr. CORNWELL. When did the possibility of that trip first become a
> matter of concern to you?
>
> Mr. CONNALLY. Mr. Cornwell, I wouldn't characterize it as a matter of
> concern, but the possibility of a trip to Texas arose, as I recall, in the
> spring of 1962.
>
> <much...@gmail.com> wrote in message
aeffects
> More on Garrison..........
pucker up Dave..... It only hurts for a little while
<snipperoo>
aeffects
ole Dave loves quoting himself -- builds up his ego, after all he had
all his eggs in daBugliosi's basket -- he's hurting these days
aeffects
wrote:
sirdown hon -- we ALL know how eye witness account[s] screw up your
day, yee ole muncher you! LMAO!
aeffects
so, if you don't believe me, ask me says Dave -- that it? LMFAO!