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Oct 4, 2006, 3:38:50 PM10/4/06
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:42:35 -0700,
in article <12i5tbg...@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aed...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Tell us ALL, Randy: Tell us ONE MORE TIME, AGAIN!!

>If your wife wishes to abstain from sex for a period of prayer and
>fasting, and YOU do _NOT_ give YOUR consent, DO YOU HAVE THE GOD-GIVEN
>RIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HER?

Randy:

Yes, according to 1 Cor. 7:1-9, but that doesn't mean I endorse
forcing it against her will.

In Article: 12i7v1n...@corp.supernews.com
Owd replies:

>You have now admitted that you either engage in or espouse of justify or
>advocate spousal rape.


Having the right doesn't mean you advocate using it against people's
wishes, Owd, and I said I don't. You are a stupid, libelous, liar.

--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this finished work alone for salvation (1 Cor. 15:1-3;
Eph. 2:8-10).

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 4, 2006, 4:47:04 PM10/4/06
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www.pulpitfire.org wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:42:35 -0700,
> in article <12i5tbg...@corp.supernews.com>,
> oldwetdog <g.aed...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Tell us ALL, Randy: Tell us ONE MORE TIME, AGAIN!!
>
> >If your wife wishes to abstain from sex for a period of prayer and
> >fasting, and YOU do _NOT_ give YOUR consent, DO YOU HAVE THE GOD-GIVEN
> >RIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HER?
>
> Randy:
>
> Yes, according to 1 Cor. 7:1-9

Not according to one "who unites himself with the LORD is one with HIM
in Spirit."(1 Corinthians 6:17) What Paul has written was "as a
concession, and not as a command."(1 Corinthians 7:6)

In truth, the Holy Spirit guides me to write that when a husband forces
himself upon his wife against her will that this is sin because such an
act goes against our LORD's command for us to love each other. Indeed,
it destroys the love that the wife has for her husband because it
reveals to the wife that her husband's heart is filled with selfish
lust instead of selfless unconditional love. Such is the heart of a
man devoid of GOD's love.

"It is my heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job to
convict, and my job to love." -- Reverend Billy Graham

"The worshippers that GOD seeks are those who worship HIM in truth and
spirit." -- Holy Spirit

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! !

May you someday accept GOD's love into your heart thereby receiving HIS
gift of eternal life, dear neighbor Randy whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?

Kumar

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Oct 5, 2006, 5:08:34 AM10/5/06
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What nature and "surrvival of fittest" suggest about it?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 5, 2006, 6:55:07 AM10/5/06
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Nothing.

Matrimony is a union between man and woman created and blessed by GOD
starting with Adam and Eve.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Kumar

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Oct 5, 2006, 7:01:19 AM10/5/06
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Whether union between other species are not created and blessed by GOD?

Randy

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Oct 5, 2006, 7:24:52 AM10/5/06
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On 4 Oct 2006 13:47:04 -0700,
in article <1159994824....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>www.pulpitfire.org wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:42:35 -0700,
>> in article <12i5tbg...@corp.supernews.com>,
>> oldwetdog <g.aed...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Tell us ALL, Randy: Tell us ONE MORE TIME, AGAIN!!
>>
>> >If your wife wishes to abstain from sex for a period of prayer and
>> >fasting, and YOU do _NOT_ give YOUR consent, DO YOU HAVE THE GOD-GIVEN
>> >RIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HER?
>>
>> Randy:
>>
>> Yes, according to 1 Cor. 7:1-9

First of all, why did you cut out the part where I said "but that
doesn't mean I endorse forcing it against her will."? Huh??

Here's the whole statement:

"Yes, according to 1 Cor. 7:1-9, but that doesn't mean I endorse
forcing it against her will."

You then go on to argue that it's wrong to force sex, as if I was
promoting that, when I plainly said it is wrong, and you knew it. Why
do you some of you *keep* pretending that I am arguing in favor of
forcing your wife, when I REPEATEDLY state that is wrong? Because you
have no case, other than to argue against a sick lie which I did not
say, and which *you* invented!

>Not according to one "who unites himself with the LORD is one with HIM
>in Spirit."(1 Corinthians 6:17) What Paul has written was "as a
>concession, and not as a command."(1 Corinthians 7:6)

The "concession" was allowing them to get married, and/or the
concession to avoid "due" benevolence *if* both parties consented for
a time of prayer and fasting. Look what comes right after the
statement about "concession". He says he wishes all were like him
(single), nevertheless, each has his own gift, and that it's "better
to marry than to burn". The concession is on whether or not to marry,
and/or whether or not to agree to a time of prayer and fasting, rather
than "due" benevolence, not on whether or not to have "due"
benevolence in the first place.

"Due" benevolence is not an optional "concession". But hey, don't let
what the Bible actually says get in the way of your politically
correct, sock-puppet theology, that you need to achieve victim status,
go ahead and lie about both what I and the Bible says.

Is it not enough that both husband and wife have equal authority over
the other's body, that you now have to try and wield veto power over
your spouse, independently, by playing the victim?

>In truth, the Holy Spirit guides me to write that when a husband forces
>himself upon his wife against her will

You remove the part where I agree that's wrong, then argue against me
as if I endorse it. Is this not a deceitful lie? I believe it is,
and that you know it, or else you wouldn't have cut out the part where
I agreed it was not right to force sex, then pretended I was arguing
in favor of it.

>that this is sin because such an
>act goes against our LORD's command for us to love each other.

Why are you arguing against a lie which I did not say, as if that's
what I said, after you know you cut out the part where I said it's
wrong in the first place to force your spouse? I believe it's because
you are a LIAR!

Just because God gives *both* spouses equal power over the other's
body, and says they do not have power over their own body, does not
therefore mean that having power is one and the same with forcing the
person against their will. That's like saying that because you have
the authority to operate on people, that therefore means you endorse
injuring them against their will! Just because both spouses have
authority over the other's body, doesn't mean that either or both
"force" themselves on the other against their will. That's *your*
sick idea, not mine! Then you argue against it, as if it's what I
endorsed, having even to cut out what I actually said in order to try
to pass off your lie.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 5, 2006, 7:31:14 AM10/5/06
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"What GOD has joined, let no man separate." -- Holy Spirit

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

> Whether union between other species are not created and blessed by GOD?

Interspecies and same-sex mating is sin.

Sin is neither created by nor blessed by GOD.

Kumar

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Oct 5, 2006, 11:25:00 PM10/5/06
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I meant, whether nomal sex and mating in other species is also created
and blessed by GOD alike in humans?


> Sin is neither created by nor blessed by GOD.

We follow few social laws and few nature's law. Which type are more
liked or advised by GOD?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 6, 2006, 3:54:46 AM10/6/06
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No, those are acts of the free wills of the individual creatures
involved.

> > Sin is neither created by nor blessed by GOD.
>
> We follow few social laws and few nature's law. Which type are more
> liked or advised by GOD?

You will find HIS commandments in the Holy Bible.

Kumar

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Oct 7, 2006, 3:20:07 AM10/7/06
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Whether forceful sex or sex with vigour or uncontrolled sex is sin or
natural mechanism for "survival of fittest"? If so, how it can be
against nature/GOD?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 7, 2006, 4:41:50 AM10/7/06
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> > > > > > > What nature and "surrvival of fittest" suggest about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matrimony is a union between man and woman created and blessed by GOD
> > > > > > starting with Adam and Eve.
> > > >
> > > > "What GOD has joined, let no man separate." -- Holy Spirit
> > > >
> > > > Amen !
> > > >
> > > > Laus Deo ! !
> > > >
> > > > > Whether union between other species are not created and blessed by GOD?
> > > >
> > > > Interspecies and same-sex mating is sin.
> > >
> > > I meant, whether nomal sex and mating in other species is also created
> > > and blessed by GOD alike in humans?
> >
> > No, those are acts of the free wills of the individual creatures
> > involved.
>
> Whether forceful sex or sex with vigour or uncontrolled sex is sin or
> natural mechanism for "survival of fittest"? If so, how it can be
> against nature/GOD?

GOD is set against the ways of the world.

The world would dictate that the aggressively violent creatures should
dominate as the fittest to survive.

"The meek shall inherit the earth." -- Holy Spirit

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! !

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

Kumar

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Oct 7, 2006, 12:53:17 PM10/7/06
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Whether GOD will be happy or will punish to such"fittest to survive"?

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