Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars
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* 2008 BMW 3-series
* 2008 Cadillac CTS
* 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
* 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
* 2008 Honda Accord
* 2008 Honda Fit
* 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
* 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
* 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
* 2008 Volkswagen GTI
DaveW
I think I can speak for all Lexus owners when I say that I really wish
I'd bought a Chevy Malibu instead.
01dyna
How VW can be on the list when nearly every person I know that's owned
one has complained about it's horrible reliability is beyond me.
W. Wells
for any of those on the list.
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trailer
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Anonymous
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> keep in mind that automakers probably pay big bucks to get on this list.
>
Perhaps, but I would think that if that ever became general
knowledge(beyond just allegation), it would be a major
scandal. At least in the automotive circle(s).
Obviously, I don't know. But, I don't think C&D would
jeopardize a reputation that they'd spent years/decades
to build, by selling their "Best Cars" slots.
Xplant
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> "trailer" <du...@dum.com> wrote in message news:I0BZj.6$fk.1@trnddc06...
>> keep in mind that automakers probably pay big bucks to get on this list.
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> Perhaps, but I would think that if that ever became general
> knowledge(beyond just allegation), it would be a major
> scandal. At least in the automotive circle(s).
>
> Obviously, I don't know. But, I don't think C&D would
> jeopardize a reputation that they'd spent years/decades
> to build, by selling their "Best Cars" slots.
>
>
They probably wouldn't sell a spot, but if comes down to a choice between a
couple of worthy contenders I bet the one that spends the most advertising
in C&D wins!
Anonymous
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Maybe, let's see what they say....
I've CC'd one of their contact addresses. Perhaps they'll
provide a clarification.
For the C&D convenience, the complete thread here is
located at:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.lexus/browse_frm/thread/324677986535df0c?hl=en#
GIga
Is anyone out there interested in buying my (slightly used) LS600hL? It's a
pretty nice car, but I have to agree with Dave that the Malibu has C&D's
endorsement, and so it must be a better choice. Frankly, I'm embarassed to
be driving something as second class as my LS600 obviously is, so hopefully
someone out there will be kind enough to take this pig off my hands. Any
takers?
GIga
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GIga
below.
Priceless!
GIga
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Ice
LS off his hands. I offered him a 1998 Ford Escort 30K perfectly maintained
and driven by a little old lady [ my Mom ] and offered to deliver it to him
to make the exchange anywhere in the USA. It should be worth even more to
him now as it is very good on gas. I will also make this offer to any ES
Piston Slap owners. BTW I have a 2003 ES with no piston slap or trans lag.
Unlike the smuck I work with who's 2003 C-Class has been in the shop six
times since he bought it. He still insists Mercedes is a better car. It
goes to show you that sometimes perception is everything.
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GIga
manufacturer. In fact, I should probably throw in some cash on top of the
deal so I don't take advantage of your generosity. Thanks for bailing me
out of my stupid decision to go with the "dolled up Toyota"!
GIga
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GIga
of crap, it's hard to believe. And the price? Outrageous!
Oh. Wait a minute. I bought one.
Hmmm... perhaps someone who values high end technology, great customer
service, and a car that's pretty much flawless might buy one.
Or then again, maybe not?
GIga
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DaveW
<stuar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Who in their right mind would buy a Lexus 600 hybrid?
Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.
DaveW
>>Paul McCartney has one, and he seems somewhat successful.
>it could be that he has more money than he has brains
And way more of both than you do.
GIga
would not trade my LS600 for anything (until the LS800 of course). I've had
8 different LS models, and this one is head and shoulders above all of them
(including my '04 LS430 Ultra). Better ride, quieter, MUCH better
performance, equivalent fuel economy, better sound (probably related to the
acoustic envelope and/or increased deadening materials), better bluetooth
phone, better nav system, better room (especially in the back)... you get
the picture. The only drawback I can find is the trunk space (they had to
put the batteries somewhere I suppose), but even though it's smallER, it's
still quite adequate for my needs.
But I know how unpopular it is with McJerk-off, Long Dong, and apparently
quite a few others to say nice things about Lexus, so I'll try to restrain
myself.
Perhaps it's just jealousy?
Nahhhhhh........ couldn't be.........
GIga
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On May 25, 2:11 pm, "stuart8181" <stuart8...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Who in their right mind would buy a Lexus 600 hybrid?"GIga" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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> news:zd-dnWo2nLhJ6arV...@comcast.com...> Sounds like a great idea.
>
> > Is anyone out there interested in buying my (slightly used) LS600hL? It's
> a
> > pretty nice car, but I have to agree with Dave that the Malibu has C&D's
> > endorsement, and so it must be a better choice. Frankly, I'm embarassed
> to
> > be driving something as second class as my LS600 obviously is, so
> hopefully
> > someone out there will be kind enough to take this pig off my hands. Any
> > takers?
>
> > GIga
>
> > "DaveW" <m...@oohay.com> wrote in message
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> > > On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:16:44 -0700 (PDT), johnah...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >>Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars:
>
> > >> * 2008 BMW 3-series
> > >> * 2008 Cadillac CTS
> > >> * 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
> > >> * 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
> > >> * 2008 Honda Accord
> > >> * 2008 Honda Fit
> > >> * 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
> > >> * 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
> > >> * 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
> > >> * 2008 Volkswagen GTI
>
> >>http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/best_w...
john...@hotmail.com
*double-digit* downhill?
Jan 2008 Down 17.7%
Feb 2008 Down 13.2%
Mar 2008 Down 11.6%
April 2008 Down 22.1%
On May 21, 7:16 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Car and Driver 2008 10 Best cars:
>
> * 2008 BMW 3-series
> * 2008 Cadillac CTS
> * 2008 Chevrolet Corvette
> * 2008 Chevrolet Malibu
> * 2008 Honda Accord
> * 2008 Honda Fit
> * 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata
> * 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
> * 2008 Porsche Boxster and Cayman
> * 2008 Volkswagen GTI
>
> http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/best_w...
Lars
the day this transmission falls out the bottom, after all the hard shifting
and hunting that it has done in its lifetime...
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dolled-up Camry because of cheesy powertrains. (Some owners don't
realize that ES is basically a Camry with different sheet metals.)
The newer Toyota U-series transmissions unfortunately aren't the best
on the lot. The preferred transmissions these days are the Borg Warner
Direct Shift Gearbox designs (Direkt Schalt Getriebe -- Audi and
Porsche are working on their own versions, like the Porsche Doppel
Kupplungs). These are fuel efficient, high performance transmissions
allowing excellent manual controls -- upshifts in as little as 8 ms,
compared to the Toyota/Aisin clunkers (0.1 sec shifts).