Obama, not Osama is threat number 1 to Global Security
skep...@aol.com
george
> Just sayin'
Osama bin liner is dead.
Obama has to be elected for another term..
The simpler it is the harder it is for nutters to understand
Rocky
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> Just sayin'
Don't tell me you just figured that out because that should have been
obvious when Barry Soetoro failed to have 9/11 looked into further. Not to
mention Barry's complete failure to stop any wars.
Rocky
49ERS 4 EVER
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> Just sayin'
--
SF GIANTS WORLD SERIES CHAMPS
ORANGE AND BLACK ATTACK!!!
49ER FAITHFUL
John Smith
>
> <skep...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Just sayin'
> Osama is under the sea.
Maybe he is visiting with osama? Just hope he was able to find him.
Regards,
JS
fergo
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>
> <skep...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Just sayin'
> Osama is under the sea.
> --
He's sleeping with the fishies. Frankly I think he should have been buried
with pork injected into him but that's just me.
skep...@aol.com
> "49ERS 4 EVER" <miss...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:ZNvEp.3978$nZ1....@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> > <skepti...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:df0b5434-a046-4829...@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
> >> Just sayin'
> > Osama is under the sea.
> > --
>
> He's sleeping with the fishies. Frankly I think he should have been buried
> with pork injected into him but that's just me.
Obama is terrorizing the world, and waging war in four countries. We
shouldn't worry about a CIA boogie man like Osama Bin Ladin was. 911
was done by the Bush White House, not Osama Bin Ladin. The wars are a
crime.
fergo
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Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
Afghanistan?
Government Shill #2
>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
>Afghanistan?
Why?
Are you for real?
Did you actually think it was only about Osama Bin Laden?
Really?
You're shitting me, right?
C'mon!
Shill #2
--
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1. Marked by or showing unaffected simplicity and lack of guile or worldly
experience
2. Of or created by one without formal training; simple or naive in style
3. Inexperienced
4. Lacking information or instruction
5. Not initiated; deficient in relevant experience
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fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're
>>right,
>>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
>>Afghanistan?
>
> Why?
>
> Are you for real?
>
> Did you actually think it was only about Osama Bin Laden?
>
> Really?
>
> You're shitting me, right?
>
> C'mon!
>
I bought into this "We're in Afghanistan to get Binladen" BS. Ok so why
exactly is NATO in Afghanistan? What's the point?
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
>>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
>>Afghanistan?
Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
• training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
province to assume responsibility for the province’s security,
• building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
policing functions in Uruzgan,
• helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core services and
generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
• operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising the
Special Operations Task Group.
http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/articles/1017/files/3_Australia's%20commitment%20in%20Afghanistan%20Fact%20Sheet%203.pdf
No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
Shill #2
--
We are none of us infallible--not even the youngest of us.
W.H. Thompson
Government Shill #2
NATO is not "we".
However, 26 seconds with Google and I found:
"NATO is in Afghanistan at the express wish of the democratically elected
government of Afghanistan and is widely supported by the Afghan population. The
Bonn Agreement of 5 December 2001 requested the United Nations to authorise the
development of a security force to assist in maintaining security in Kabul and
its surrounding areas."
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_8189.htm
You should be capable of using Google too.
Shill #2
--
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to those of us who do.
Isaac Asimov
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am
http://timesofpakistan.pk/editorials/2011-03-15/karzai-bodes-pakistan-ill/27976/
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2
> <gov....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're
>>>right,
>>>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
>>>Afghanistan?
>
> Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
>
> . training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
> province to assume responsibility for the province's security,
> . building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
> policing functions in Uruzgan,
> . helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core
> services and
> generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
> . operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising
> the
> Special Operations Task Group.
> http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/articles/1017/files/3_Australia's%20commitment%20in%20Afghanistan%20Fact%20Sheet%203.pdf
>
> No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
>
So...is it worth all the deaths?
John Smith
Obama Been Lian is alive and well!
John Smith
> ... Why are we even
> still in Afghanistan?
>
>
The same reason we went there in the first place, THE PIPELINE!
"Experts believe that Karzai will discuss with his Turkmenistan
colleague Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov the current situation in
Afghanistan and the implementation of the TAPI gas pipeline construction."
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110528/164282698.html
Regards,
JS
Government Shill #2
What deaths?
Shill #2
--
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
skep...@aol.com
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
> >>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
> >>Afghanistan?
>
> Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
>
> • training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
> province to assume responsibility for the province’s security,
> • building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
> policing functions in Uruzgan,
> • helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core services and
> generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
> • operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising the
>
> No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
>
> Shill #2
> --
> We are none of us infallible--not even the youngest of us.
> W.H. Thompson
This (posted above) is just State Department propaganda. Shill #2 is a
supporter of the US and Nato's war of aggression to enslave the people
of Afghanistan, raining bombs on them for years, and busting down
doors in the middle of the night to drag whole families off for
torture. Govt. Shill #2 is a ghoul. The purpose for the US and Nato to
kill everyone in Afghanistan is to encircle Russia and China, to
further encircle our brothers and sisters in Iran, and for a Unical
oil pipeline.
skep...@aol.com
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:18:36 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Afghans so deeply hate the USA and Nato they are blowing up their
sadist occupiers with land mines and AK47s. Maintaining "security" in
Kabul mean the US expanding it's world drug trade, forcing women to be
prostitutes, and systematic torture at the hands of US interrogators
and other goons. Shall I post the many photos of Afghans rip to shreds
by the United Snakes bullets and bombs?
skep...@aol.com
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:07:17 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >news:ajk6u6tn0sef32lvj...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're
> >>>>right,
> >>>>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
> >>>>Afghanistan?
>
> >> Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
>
> >> . training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
> >> province to assume responsibility for the province's security,
> >> . building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
> >> policing functions in Uruzgan,
> >> . helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core
> >> services and
> >> generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
> >> . operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising
> >> the
> >> Special Operations Task Group.
>
> >> No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
>
> >So...is it worth all the deaths?
>
> What deaths?
>
> Shill #2
> --
> I am not young enough to know everything.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let's not forget that the jolly Govt Shill #2 is getting paid to
spread Nazi style propaganda in favor of little girls with their
ankles blown off. He is truly filth!
BDK
@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
>
> On May 30, 1:20 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
> > >>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
> > >>Afghanistan?
> >
> > Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
> >
> > province to assume responsibility for the province?s security,
> > ? building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
> > policing functions in Uruzgan,
> > ? helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core services and
> > generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
> > Special Operations Task Group.http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/articles/1017/files/3_Australia...
> >
> > No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
> >
> > Shill #2
> > --
> > We are none of us infallible--not even the youngest of us.
> > W.H. Thompson
>
> This (posted above) is just State Department propaganda. Shill #2 is a
> supporter of the US and Nato's war of aggression to enslave the people
> of Afghanistan, raining bombs on them for years, and busting down
> doors in the middle of the night to drag whole families off for
> torture. Govt. Shill #2 is a ghoul. The purpose for the US and Nato to
> kill everyone in Afghanistan is to encircle Russia and China, to
> further encircle our brothers and sisters in Iran, and for a Unical
> oil pipeline.
Even following your delusions, that doesnt make any sense. Since not
everyone in Afghanistan is "being killed", actually, the death toll
isn't all that high, probably not high enough to even put a minor dent
in the population. I don't think the Iranians think of you as one of
their brothers or sisters, either.
You lost any claim to sanity when you expressed your admiration for
Stalin and Mao, two of the most evil bastards to ever walk the Earth.
--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!
BDK
@s16g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! An angry kook is the funniest kook.
skep...@aol.com
> In article <9e6e0925-1a11-478f-bad1-2d2ae7df5520
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! An angry kook is the funniest kook.
>
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -
Govt. Shill #2's sitting there at this Australian military desk with
his paunch, making jokes about the people the US and NATO (and
Australia) are murdering in Afghanistan for empire, little children
ripped a part, wedding parties slaughtered, it's all a joke him and
BDK because they believe Australian, European and US lives are more
valuable than the lives of people in Asia. The beautiful blond beasts.
Sick!
george
> Govt. Shill #2's sitting there at this Australian military desk with
> his paunch, making jokes about the people the US and NATO (and
> Australia) are murdering in Afghanistan for empire, little children
> ripped a part, wedding parties slaughtered, it's all a joke him and
> BDK because they believe Australian, European and US lives are more
> valuable than the lives of people in Asia. The beautiful blond beasts.
> Sick!
What sort of mind can come up with a diatribe like that apart from an
insane all time loser...?
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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9,000-27,000 civilian deaths.
fergo
<skep...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Just so you know I do not agree with kooks like "Skeptic" just because
someone disagrees with me does not mean they are part of some conspiracy.
Government Shill #2
>On May 30, 1:20 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're right,
>> >>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still in
>> >>Afghanistan?
>>
>> Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
>>
>> • training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
>> province to assume responsibility for the province’s security,
>> • building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with civil
>> policing functions in Uruzgan,
>> • helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core services and
>> generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
>> • operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising the
>> Special Operations Task Group.http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/articles/1017/files/3_Australia...
>>
>> No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
>>
>> Shill #2
>> --
>> We are none of us infallible--not even the youngest of us.
>> W.H. Thompson
>
>This (posted above) is just State Department propaganda.
State Department?
You don't read English too good, do you spektical1?
Shill #2
--
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Government Shill #2
Caused by... we?
I don't think so.
Don't forget, your initial question was "Why are we even still in
Afghanistan?"
My posts have been in response to that. Not anything else you imagine I mean.
BDK
35g2000prp.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
You're the joke Skep. You should have some idea of that by now.
Let your anger go! Make us laugh.
BDK
35g2000prp.googlegroups.com>, gbl...@hnpl.net says...
Nobody who has a life, that's certain.
raven1
<skep...@aol.com> wrote:
>Just sayin'
Osama's no longer a threat to anyone. Do try to keep up.
John Smith
I wouldn't bet on that.
If the need becomes great enough, they may find a way to resurrect him!
A "Terrorist Prophet" who has "risen from the dead" might be big enough
for them to get some more mileage out of ...
Regards,
JS
RHF
> > <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> Just sayin'
>
> > Osama's no longer a threat to anyone. Do try to keep up.
>
> I wouldn't bet on that.
>
> If the need becomes great enough, they may find a way to resurrect him!
>
> A "Terrorist Prophet" who has "risen from the dead" might be big enough
> for them to get some more mileage out of ...
>
> Regards,
> JS
Up to 20 January 2009 George 'W' Bush was
the # 1 Threat To Global Peace
-note- 'W' for War Monger
.
Since 20 January 2009 Barack 'H' Obama
is the # 1 Threat To Global Peace
-note- 'H' for "Holy War" Monger
.
That's Obama's "Holy War" on Islam-Muslims !
-obama-the-great-slayer-of-bin-laden-
-obama-killer-of-innocent-muslims-
-obama-the-great-western-invader-
-obama-killer-of-innocent-islamic-women-
-obama-the-great-christian-crusader-
-obama-killer-of-innocent-muslim-children-
Obama Is The # 1 Threat To Global Peace
.
Obama is Bush II =equals= Bush is Obama Too !
=Bush=Evil=&=Corrupt=s=Corrupt=&=Evil-Obama=
.
? Obama-Regime Planing a False Flag Attack
on the Sears Towers in Chicago...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4fdfe518ff642d0b
.
Join 'The Cult of The-Obama' :
Re-Elect Obama bi-Den© in 2012 !
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/d8e026f9249bfca2
.
Obama The Great War Monger !
-&- Obama The Great Crusader Against Islam
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6f85b8bb928f0be6
? How Many Innocents Must Die To Satisfy
Obama's Thirst for Blood and Oil !
.
The World Today -news- Obama Keeps Exposing
Himself As A Bloody War Monger !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e4e6a984b01430f1
.
Obama is Bush II =equals= Bush is Obama Too !
=Bush=Evil=&=Corrupt=s=Corrupt=&=Evil-Obama=
.
.
skep...@aol.com
> On Tue, 31 May 2011 06:20:38 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >news:1n27u65imc0ncdufv...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:07:17 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>news:ajk6u6tn0sef32lvj...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:08:29 +1000, Government Shill #2
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:45:35 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>Where is the evidence that Binladen is a "CIA Boogie man" and you're
> >>>>>>right,
> >>>>>>we shouldn't worry about him because he is dead. Why are we even still
> >>>>>>in
> >>>>>>Afghanistan?
>
> >>>> Australian forces "...are even still in Afghanistan" focusing on:
>
> >>>> . training and mentoring the Afghan National Army 4th Brigade in Uruzgan
> >>>> province to assume responsibility for the province's security,
> >>>> . building the capacity of the Afghan National Police to assist with
> >>>> civil
> >>>> policing functions in Uruzgan,
> >>>> . helping improve the Afghan Government's capacity to deliver core
> >>>> services and
> >>>> generate income-earning opportunities for its people, and
> >>>> . operations to disrupt insurgent operations and supply routes utilising
> >>>> the
> >>>> Special Operations Task Group.
>
> >>>> No mention of Osama Bin Laden. Does that help?
>
> >>>So...is it worth all the deaths?
>
> >> What deaths?
>
> >9,000-27,000 civilian deaths.
>
> Caused by... we?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> Don't forget, your initial question was "Why are we even still in
> Afghanistan?"
>
> My posts have been in response to that. Not anything else you imagine I mean.
>
> Shill #2
> --
> I am not young enough to know everything.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Your paunch jiggling as you laugh at the images I posted of kids
ripped apart by the United Snakes and NATO, and you make some
quibbling point because you think you are so funny and that the lives
of people in Asia are not as valuable as US and European lives.
BDK
@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
All that tooth grinding you must be doing when you play out the little
fantasy above must be wearing out your teeth.
You've never posted any objections to all the little kids and others
that Stalin and Mao killed. Why is that?
skep...@aol.com
> In article <eb07c782-eaef-438b-a0de-c6707106c144
>
> - Show quoted text -
Millions face starvation in Afghanistan
By James Cogan
9 January 2009
A social catastrophe is unfolding in Afghanistan. 2008 was the seventh
consecutive year of drought and poor harvests and as many as 8 to 10
million people face starvation as the harsh winter sets in and snow
falls isolate rural communities. The worst affected provinces are in
central and northern Afghanistan where US and NATO forces have exerted
almost unchallenged control since the 2001 invasion and claim to have
spent billions of dollars on reconstruction and development.
A minimum of 6 million tonnes of wheat and other cereals are needed to
feed the country's population, which has swollen to nearly 30 million
after the return of refugees from Pakistan and Iran. Last year just
3.5 million tonnes of cereal were produced with the entire crop being
lost in some areas. Over 1.5 million animals—some 10 percent of
livestock—also died due to water shortages.
The problem of drought is vastly increased by the lack of water
catchments and the backwardness of the country's irrigation systems. A
study by the Afghan Ministry of Water and Energy estimated that 70
percent of available water was lost to evaporation or leakage as it
flowed through crumbling, decades-old canals.
The US occupation has done nothing to address the problems. Instead,
Afghan communities have sought to overcome the water shortages by
tapping into underground basins. The Ministry of Water and Energy
estimates that 50 percent of ground water has now been depleted.
The lack of irrigation has contributed to as much as four million
hectares of potentially productive land not being cultivated. At some
point during the last 30 years of war and political chaos, areas of
land have simply been abandoned.
The result is a population dependent on food imports they cannot
afford to buy. The price of imported wheat for example, which sells at
close to 80 US cents per kilogram, puts it out of reach of many
ordinary people whose income is generally less than one dollar a day.
The US and NATO occupation forces were warned well in advance of the
risk of widespread starvation this winter. The British Royal United
Services Institute wrote in October that Afghanistan faced a
"calamitous famine". The World Food Program (WFP) and other agencies
have rushed additional supplies into the country. Susanna Nicol, a WFP
spokesperson in Kabul, told the Canadian National Post: "The current
situation is extremely fragile."
WFP and other relief organisations have delivered some assistance. The
quantity, however, is insufficient to guarantee food security through
the winter. In the province of Badakhshan, in north-east Afghanistan,
government officials told the San Francisco Chronicle that after the
delivery of 15,000 tonnes of food aid, another 105,000 tonnes were
still needed. An official estimated that 1.3 million people in that
province alone were at risk of malnutrition.
Malnutrition further weakens a vulnerable population, especially young
children, who do not have access to adequate health care, sanitation
or basic services such as electricity. According to UNICEF, an
estimated 327,000 children under the age of five died during 2006—a
year of severe drought.
Diarrhea and acute respiratory infections were responsible for 41
percent of child deaths, while illnesses such as measles and polio
that could be prevented by vaccination caused a further 21 percent.
Over 50 percent of children who survived beyond five suffer stunted
growth.
Overall life expectancy for men and women in Afghanistan is just 44
years old. Women die in child birth at the rate of 1,600 to 2,000 per
100,000 births.
This year, even the Afghan government's own Health Ministry is warning
of a massive spike in the country's staggering annual death toll. It
has estimated that 1.6 million children under five may die.
The prospect of hundreds of thousands of children dying from famine or
easily preventable diseases underlines the sheer cynicism of the claim
that the US and the major NATO powers have over 70,000 troops in
Afghanistan to bring its people "security, governance and economic
development".
The vast bulk of foreign spending in Afghanistan is to sustain the
military operations of the occupation forces, which are aimed at
crushing the resistance among the Afghan people to the attempt to
transform the country in the US-backed client state in Central Asia.
The resources that have been allocated to so-called "reconstruction"
have been spent without a coordinated national plan and with virtually
no input from the Afghan people. Forty percent of the "aid"—some $6
billion as of mid-2008—did not even reach the country. It was paid out
to the Western-based contracting companies and agencies hired to
oversee various projects.
Another large portion has been siphoned off by the various political
parties, factions and warlords that make up the regime in Kabul.
Common practices include inflated salaries for government officials,
demands for bribes and rampant overcharging for permits, labour, raw
materials and transport.
Even the New York Times, which has consistently supported the
occupation of Afghanistan, had to note on January 1 that the US/NATO-
backed government of President Hamid Karzai is "shot through with
corruption and graft" and "now often seems to exist for little more
than the enrichment of those who run it". Karzai himself told a recent
conference: "The banks of the world are full of the money of our
statesmen."
The concern of the occupation powers, however, is not that they have
created a dysfunctional and corrupt puppet state or that much of the
population faces starvation. It is the realisation that the worsening
plight of the long-suffering Afghan people is a major factor in the
resurgence of support for the Islamist-led insurgency and the growing
casualty rate last year among US and NATO troops.
Government Shill #2
What US troops do or don't do should rest on *your* conscience, not mine.
The job *our* troops are doing over there should make *us* very proud of them
indeed.
Shill #2
--
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
Ambrose Bierce
BDK
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
> livestock?also died due to water shortages.
> year of severe drought.
>
>
> Diarrhea and acute respiratory infections were responsible for 41
> percent of child deaths, while illnesses such as measles and polio
> that could be prevented by vaccination caused a further 21 percent.
> Over 50 percent of children who survived beyond five suffer stunted
> growth.
>
>
> Overall life expectancy for men and women in Afghanistan is just 44
> years old. Women die in child birth at the rate of 1,600 to 2,000 per
> 100,000 births.
>
>
> This year, even the Afghan government's own Health Ministry is warning
> of a massive spike in the country's staggering annual death toll. It
> has estimated that 1.6 million children under five may die.
>
>
> The prospect of hundreds of thousands of children dying from famine or
> easily preventable diseases underlines the sheer cynicism of the claim
> that the US and the major NATO powers have over 70,000 troops in
> Afghanistan to bring its people "security, governance and economic
> development".
>
>
> The vast bulk of foreign spending in Afghanistan is to sustain the
> military operations of the occupation forces, which are aimed at
> crushing the resistance among the Afghan people to the attempt to
> transform the country in the US-backed client state in Central Asia.
>
>
> The resources that have been allocated to so-called "reconstruction"
> have been spent without a coordinated national plan and with virtually
> billion as of mid-2008?did not even reach the country. It was paid out
> to the Western-based contracting companies and agencies hired to
> oversee various projects.
>
>
> Another large portion has been siphoned off by the various political
> parties, factions and warlords that make up the regime in Kabul.
> Common practices include inflated salaries for government officials,
> demands for bribes and rampant overcharging for permits, labour, raw
> materials and transport.
>
>
> Even the New York Times, which has consistently supported the
> occupation of Afghanistan, had to note on January 1 that the US/NATO-
> backed government of President Hamid Karzai is "shot through with
> corruption and graft" and "now often seems to exist for little more
> than the enrichment of those who run it". Karzai himself told a recent
> conference: "The banks of the world are full of the money of our
> statesmen."
>
>
> The concern of the occupation powers, however, is not that they have
> created a dysfunctional and corrupt puppet state or that much of the
> population faces starvation. It is the realisation that the worsening
> plight of the long-suffering Afghan people is a major factor in the
> resurgence of support for the Islamist-led insurgency and the growing
> casualty rate last year among US and NATO troops.
But yet you conveniently ignore all the millions Stalin starved, and the
millions Mao and Stalin just plain old murdered?
skep...@aol.com
> In article <2c5221c4-3023-4aa3-92c2-0fedf2dd26a6@
> 22g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, skepti...@aol.com says...
Deflection!
skep...@aol.com
> What US troops do or don't do should rest on *your* conscience, not mine.
>
> The job *our* troops are doing over there should make *us* very proud of them
> indeed.
>
> Shill #2
> --
> War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
>
> - Show quoted text -
US atrocities Reach all Time High in Afghanistan
(And Australia sucks too at the end of the article--skeptic)
Posted on April 27, 2011
by centurean2| 8 Comments
WHO TAUGHT AMERICA TO TORTURE?
US atrocities reach all time high in Afghanistan
April 23 2011
“The purpose for which Afghanistan was invaded — to secure safe
passage for a gas and oil pipeline from Central Asia and lay hands on
the rich mineral deposits of Afghanistan — has not been achieved so
far. Yet there is growing anxiety among ordinary Americans over the
extended military mission that has nearly bankrupted America.
Unemployment is high, the debt is rising and American cities are
crumbling while the US pours billions of dollars into a war that
appears to have no end or any identifiable benchmarks by which to
measure progress. US officials talk optimistically about training
Afghan police and army but the targets they have set have not been met
so far.”
Even as American officials optimistically talk about starting troop
withdrawal from Afghanistan according to schedule in July, news about
their atrocities continue to send shock waves globally. Recent reports
and photos of torture and mutilation of Afghan civilians make Abu
Ghraib look like a mild affair. These crimes are compounded by denials
that the Americans have done or are capable of doing anything wrong
since these are contrary to American “standards and values.” Their
victims know better.
This past winter, American troops murdered even more Afghan civilians
than in previous years. And true to form, they routinely claim the
attacks were aimed at militants and that no civilians were killed.
There has been a spate of such attacks in recent weeks that have
soured relations between the US military and the Afghan government. To
their customary brutality, the Americans have now added another
tactic. Following a particularly gruesome attack in Ghaziabad district
of Kunar province in late February, General David Petraeus said Afghan
civilians had “deliberately burnt” their children’s legs and arms to
make the attack look bad.
“I was dizzy. My head was spinning,” said an aide to Afghan President
Hamid Karzai, referring to Petraeus’s remarks, during a meeting. “This
was shocking. Would any father do this to his [own] children? This is
really absurd.” Fazlullah Wahidi, governor of Kunar province, said at
least 50 women and children perished in the attack carried out by US
Apache helicopters. While the dust had not settled over this incident,
NATO air strikes killed another nine children on March 1. Again, the
Americans initially claimed these were insurgents. Later they
apologized when it was confirmed that these were boys collecting wood
in the mountains. Gates apologized for the attacks as did Obama. A day
earlier, Afghans had demonstrated in Kabul against such attacks and
Karzai angrily rejected an apology from Petraeus.
During a visit to Asadabad, capital of Kunar province on March 11,
Karzai said NATO and the US should stop their operations in
Afghanistan. “I ask NATO and US, with honor and humbleness and not
with arrogance, to stop its operations on our soil,” Karzai said. The
children were between the ages of 7 and 13 and collecting firewood in
the Manogay district when they came under bombardment. “Afghans want
peace and security and they cooperate with the world to bring peace
and security,” Karzai said. “But we don’t want this war to continue
any longer. We don’t want to repeat such bombardments and casualties.”
The Americans have paid no attention to such appeals in the past; they
are not likely to pay heed now and will dismiss them with contempt,
regardless of how much suffering they cause.
Meanwhile, there was even more shocking news when the German weekly,
Dier Spiegel on March 20 published photos of Afghan civilians killed
by US soldiers and then posed with their naked bodies. The London
daily, the Guardian, compared them to the photos of detainees tortured
and humiliated in Iraq’s notorious Abu Ghraib prison. The British
daily reported “commanders in Afghanistan are bracing themselves for
possible riots and public fury triggered by the publication of
‘trophy’ photographs of US soldiers posing with the dead bodies of
defenceless Afghan civilians they killed” (March 21). Some senior NATO
officials have expressed fears the pictures could be even more
damaging as they show the aftermath of deliberate murders of Afghan
civilians by a rogue US Stryker tank unit that operated in the
southern province of Qandahar last year.
Some of the activities of the American “kill team” are already public
knowledge; 12 men are currently on trial in Seattle for their role in
the killing of three civilians. Five soldiers are on trial for pre-
meditated murder, after they staged killings to make it look like they
were defending themselves against Taliban attacks. Other charges
include the mutilation of corpses, the possession of images of human
casualties and drug abuse. Other soldiers cut body parts of victims as
“trophies”. The Dier Spiegel report says there are approximately 4,000
photos and videos taken by the men.
True to form, the US military has tried to keep the photos out of the
public domain fearing it could damage its already tarnished
reputation, especially in Afghanistan and Pakistan where anti-American
sentiment is running very high. Also typically, the US army apologized
for the distress caused by photographs “depicting actions repugnant to
us as human beings and contrary to the standards and values of the
United States.” But such actions by US soldiers are so routine that it
is mind-boggling for the US army to claim these run contrary to their
“standards and values.” These are precisely the standards of the US
from Bagram and Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo Bay. The latest batch of
photos simply confirms a pattern of behaviour common among US
soldiers, crossing all limits of human decency and dignity. Not
surprisingly, the vast majority of Afghans and people elsewhere, look
upon Americans with disgust and wish to have nothing to do with them.
Dier Spiegel also narrates another episode that occurred last May. An
Afghan religious leader, standing by the road perhaps waiting for a
ride, was apprehended by the “kill team”, taken to a ditch and made to
kneel down. The staff sergeant, one Calvin Gibbs, then threw a grenade
at the man while an order was given for him to be shot. As if this was
not enough, Gibbs then cut the man’s little finger and pulled one of
his teeth out.
With the publication of Dier Spiegel’s report and photos, many
organizations that employ foreign staff, including the United Nations,
ordered their staff into a “lockdown”, banning all movements around
Kabul and requiring people to remain in their compounds. One security
manager for the US company DynCorp sent an email to clients warning
that publication of the photos was likely “to incite the local
population” as the “severity of the incidents to be revealed are
graphic and extreme.”
The Americans do not wish to improve their manners. After each act of
barbarism that exceeds their previous atrocious behaviour, they put
out a press release dismissing the incident as not in accord with
American standards and values. What precisely are these values the
Americans are so eager to export to the rest of the world through
cruise missiles and “kill teams”?
Amid reports of American crimes against humanity, a debate is raging
in the official circles whether they are staying in Afghanistan or
leaving? They appear to be speaking from both sides of their mouth.
The purpose for which Afghanistan was invaded — to secure safe passage
for a gas and oil pipeline from Central Asia and lay hands on the rich
mineral deposits of Afghanistan — has not been achieved so far. Yet
there is growing anxiety among ordinary Americans over the extended
military mission that has nearly bankrupted America. Unemployment is
high, the debt is rising and American cities are crumbling while the
US pours billions of dollars into a war that appears to have no end or
any identifiable benchmarks by which to measure progress. US officials
talk optimistically about training Afghan police and army but the
targets they have set have not been met so far.
During an unannounced visit to Kabul on March 7, US Defence Secretary
Robert Gates said the US was “well-positioned” to begin withdrawing
troops from Afghanistan in July. This was the date President Barack
Obama had set on December 1, 2009 when he announced a 30,000-troop
surge for Afghanistan. But Gates also said the US would remain
involved in Afghanistan even after the 2014 date, when the withdrawal
of troops is scheduled to be completed. American officials always
leave caveats so that they have wiggle room to manouvre and implement
whatever policy they want.
But their atrocious behaviour is turning even ordinary Afghans against
them. They wish to have nothing to do with the Americans, their hi-
tech weapons and their dollars. They would rather be left alone to
their poverty-stricken but safe life, free from Hell-fire missiles and
Apache helicopter attacks.
Global Research Articles by Zia Sarhadi
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24460
RUDD FABIAN..GILLARD FABIAN- REGIME CHANGE!!
Australia: America’s Puppet State
Marching for Anzac in the 51st State
by John Pilger
Th street where I grew up in Sydney was a war street. There were long
silences, then the smashing of glass and screams. Pete and I played
Aussies-and-Japs. Pete’s father was an object of awe. He weighed
barely 100 pounds and shook with malaria and was frequently demented.
He would sit in a cane chair, drunk, scything the air with the sword
of a Japanese soldier he said he had killed. There was a woman who
flitted from room to room, always red-eyed and fearful, it seemed. She
was like many mothers in the street. Wally, another mate, lived in a
house that was always dark because the black-out blinds had not been
taken down. His father had been “killed by the Japs”. Once, when
Wally’s mother came home, she found he had got a gun, put it in his
mouth and blown his head off. It was a war street.The insidious,
merciless, life-long damage of war taught many of us to recognise the
difference between the empty symbolism of war and the actual meaning.
“Does it matter?” mocked the poet Siegfried Sassoon at the end of an
earlier slaughter, in 1918, as he grieved his younger brother’s death
at Gallipoli. I grew up with that name, Gallipoli. The British assault
on the Turkish Dardanelles was one of the essential crimes of imperial
war, causing the death and wounding of 392,000 on all sides. The
Australian and New Zealander losses were among the highest,
proportionally; and 25 April, 1915 was declared not just a day of
remembrance but the “birth of the Australian nation”. This was based
on the belief of Edwardian militarists that true men were made in war,
an absurdity about to be celebrated yet again.
Anzac Day has been appropriated by those who manipulate the cult of
state violence – militarism – in order to satisfy a psychopathic
deference to foreign power and to pursue its aims. And the “legend”
has no room for the only war fought on Australian soil: that of the
Aboriginal people against the European invaders. In a land of
cenotaphs, not one stands for them.
The modern war-lovers have known no street of screams and despair.
Their abuse of our memory of the fallen, and why they fell, may be
common among all servitors of rapacious power, but Australia is a
special case. No country is more secure in its strategic remoteness
and the wealth of its resources, yet no western elite is more eager to
talk war and seek imperial “protection”.
Australia’s military budget is A$32 bn a year, one of the highest in
the world. Less than two months’ worth of this war-bingeing would pay
for the reconstruction of the state of Queensland after the
catastrophic floods, but not a cent is forthcoming. In July, the same
fragile flood plains will be invaded by a joint US-Australian military
force, firing laser-guided missiles, dropping bombs and blasting the
environment and marine life. This is rarely reported. Rupert Murdoch
controls 70 per cent of the capital city press and his world-view is
widely shared in the Australian media.
In a 2009 US cable released by WikiLeaks, the then Labor prime
minister, Kevin Rudd, who is now foreign affairs minister, implores
the Americans to “deploy force” against China if Beijing does not do
as it is told. Another Labor leader, Kim Beazley, secretly offered
Australian troops for an attack on China over Taiwan. In the 1960s,
prime minister Robert Menzies lied that he had received a request from
the American-created regime in Saigon requesting Australian troops.
Oblivious, Australians waved farewell to a largely conscripted army,
of whom almost 3000 were killed or wounded. The first Australian
troops were run by the CIA in “black teams” – assassination squads.
When the government in Canberra made a rare complaint to Washington
that the British knew more than they about America’s war aims in
Vietnam, the US national security adviser, McGeorge Bundy, replied,
“We have to inform the British to keep them on side. You in Australia
are with us come what may.” As an Australian soldier once said to me:
“We are to the Yanks what the Gurkas are to the British. We’re
mercenaries in all but name.”
WikiLeaks has disclosed the American role in the Canberra “coup” in
2010 against Rudd by Julia Gillard. Lauded in US cables as a “rising
star”, Gillard’s Labor Party plotters have turned out to be assets of
the US embassy in Canberra. Once installed as prime minister, Gillard
committed Australia to America’s war in Afghanistan war for the next
10 years – twice as long as Britain. Gillard likes to appear on TV
flanked by flags. With her robotic delivery and stare, it is an
unsettling tableau. On 6 April, she intoned, “We live in a free
country… only because the Australian people answered the call when the
decision came.” She was referring to the dispatch of Australian troops
to avenge the death of a minor imperial figure, General Charles
Gordon, during a popular uprising in Sudan in 1885. She omitted to say
that a dozen horses of the Sydney Tramway Company also “answered the
call” but expired during the long voyage.
Australia’s reputed role as America’s “deputy sheriff” (promoted to
“sheriff” by George W Bush) is to police great power designs now being
challenged by most of the world. Leading Australian politicians and
journalists report on the Middle East having first had their flights
and expenses paid by the Israeli government or its promoters. Two
Green Party candidates who dared to criticise Israel’s lawlessness and
the silence of its local supporters, are currently being set upon. One
Murdoch retainer has accused the two Greens of advocating a “modern
rendering of Kristallnacht”. Both have since received multiple death
threats. Put out more flags, boys.
John Pilger is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global
Research Articles by John Pilger
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24459
GovShill
> > What US troops do or don't do should rest on *your* conscience, not mine.
>
> > The job *our* troops are doing over there should make *us* very proud of them
> > indeed.
>
> > Shill #2
> > --
> > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
> > Ambrose Bierce- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> US atrocities Reach all Time High in Afghanistan
> (And Australia sucks too at the end of the article--skeptic)
<snip>
> John Pilger is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global
> Research Articles by John Pilger
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24459
John Pilger?????
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!
You crack me up.
Shill #2
skep...@aol.com
> John Pilger?????
>
> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!
>
> You crack me up.
>
> Shill #2
We live under a system of capitalism imperialism, a system in which US
imperialism is the most monstrous, most oppressive superpower, a
system driven by a relentless chase after profit, which brings horror
upon horror, a nightmare seemingly without end, the the vast majority
of humanity; poverty and squalor, torture and rape, the wholesale
domination and degradation fo women everywhere, wars, invasions, and
occupations, assassinations and massacres, planes, missiles, tanks and
troops of the USA bombarding people in faraway lands while they sleep
in their homes or go about their daily lives, blasting their little
children to pieces, cutting down men and women in the prime of life,
or in old age, kicking down their doors and dragging them away in the
middle of the night. While here in the USA itself the police harass,
brutalize and murder youth in the streets of the inner cities, over
and over again--and then they spit out their maddening insults,
insisting that this is "justified," as if these youth are not human
beings, have no right to live, deserve no respect and no future...It
is this system that has got us in the situation we're in today, and
keeps us there. And it is through revolution to get rid of this system
that we ourselves can bring a much better system into being. The
ultimate goal of this revolution is communism; a world where people
work and struggle together for the common good, where everyone
contributes whatever they can to society and gets back what they need
to live a life worthy of human beings, where there are no more
divisions among people in which some rule over and oppress others,
robbing them not only of the means to a decent life but also of
knowledge and a means for really understanding and acting to change,
the world.
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Amen they are doing a great job, I may think we were lied to into this war
but they really are doing us proud.
fergo
"GovShill" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The last great journalist left (not a reporter, journalist) now that the
Pakistan guy was killed by the ISI.
But those are American atrocities as you pointed out our diggers are doing
us proud.
Government Shill #2
>
>
>"GovShill" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:06b0e96c-fb85-4ddd...@r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 1, 11:12 am, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> > What US troops do or don't do should rest on *your* conscience, not
>>> > mine.
>>>
>>> > The job *our* troops are doing over there should make *us* very proud
>>> > of them
>>> > indeed.
>>>
>>> > Shill #2
>>> > --
>>> > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
>>> > Ambrose Bierce- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> US atrocities Reach all Time High in Afghanistan
>>> (And Australia sucks too at the end of the article--skeptic)
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> John Pilger is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global
>>> Research Articles by John Pilger
>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24459
>>
>> John Pilger?????
>>
>The last great journalist left (not a reporter, journalist)
No he's not. He is an idiot. Always has been an idiot.
>now that the
>Pakistan guy was killed by the ISI.
>
>But those are American atrocities as you pointed out our diggers are doing
>us proud.
Yep.
Shill #2
--
By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, journalism keeps us in touch with
the ignorance of the community.
Oscar Wilde
Government Shill #2
Lied into Afghanistan?
You don't think 911 happened? You don't think OBL was a guest of the Taliban in
Afghanistan? You don't think an attempt should have been made to bring OBL to
justice? Hmm... strange.
Government Shill #2
Feel better now?
Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:58:36 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"GovShill" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:06b0e96c-fb85-4ddd...@r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jun 1, 11:12 am, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> > What US troops do or don't do should rest on *your* conscience, not
>>>> > mine.
>>>>
>>>> > The job *our* troops are doing over there should make *us* very proud
>>>> > of them
>>>> > indeed.
>>>>
>>>> > Shill #2
>>>> > --
>>>> > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
>>>> > Ambrose Bierce- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> US atrocities Reach all Time High in Afghanistan
>>>> (And Australia sucks too at the end of the article--skeptic)
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> John Pilger is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global
>>>> Research Articles by John Pilger
>>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24459
>>>
>>> John Pilger?????
>>>
>>The last great journalist left (not a reporter, journalist)
>
>
> No he's not. He is an idiot. Always has been an idiot.
>
Please watch this documentary and tell me what part he got wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3wuRjwMCQ
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You just said NATO weren't in Afghanistan to capture Binladen!
Government Shill #2
Did I?
Are you sure? I seem to remember I posted a bit that explained what they are
doing there *now*.
Have you not noticed, in your vast experience, that over time things change?
Government Shill #2
A report by John Pilger?
No. Sorry. I have better things to do.
Shill #2
--
24 beers in a carton. 24 hours in a day. Hmmmm.......
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood". Chinese
Proverbs
fergo
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well most wars are based on a pack of lies, if you want to believe those
lies who am I too judge?
Government Shill #2
I am familiar with Pilger's "work". I have seen his reports since the late
1970s. I don't need a refresher.
This sums him up rather well:
http://www.brookesnews.com/061704pilger.html
Shill #2
--
We are none of us infallible--not even the youngest of us.
W.H. Thompson
BDK
@l2g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
A simple question, yet you won't answer it.
BDK
gov....@gmail.com says...
Nah, he's got way more anger built up. All that revolution struggling to
get out. He's funniest when he's raving like in the above rant.
BDK
skep...@aol.com
> "Government Shill #2" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:r0tbu6dbtd7fk3e6e...@4ax.com...> >>"Government Shill #2" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:7gpbu61c9pihsa128...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:58:36 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thank you for posting the video clip Fergo. I had seen it before but
it was good to see it again. John Pilger is a decent and admirable
Australian. Meanwhile Govt. Shill #2 works every day on the computer
in support of making war against the innocent people of the Middle
East. Govt. Shill #2 is not a decent person. The war is a crime! What
Shill and BDK do is spew lies for the powerful (supporting the attacks
made by Bush on NYC on 911 by dilberately manipulating people and
obscuring critical issues), pimping for the modern holocaust wars.
What they do for the empire degrades humanity. Shill won't even watch
the video, he can't handle the truth of his work hurting men, women
and children. Shame! Another world is possible! Let's lift our sights
higher than psy ops propaganda and PR hacks.
george
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:38:45 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Government Shill #2" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:57:26 +1000, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>"Government Shill #2" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
And it would appear that the troops in Afghanistan are in line to be
withdrawn job done.
Now it's up to the Afghan government to protect themselves
Government Shill #2
I feel he could include a lot more CAPS. Just to make sure his point gets
across.
Shill #2
--
You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.
- Scott Adams
Government Shill #2
You misspelt whiner. :-)
Shill #2
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"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper.
Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that
polluted vehicle."
Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell,
June 11, 1807
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>On Jun 1, 2:37 am, "fergo" <fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.brookesnews.com/061704pilger.html
Shill #2
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skep...@aol.com
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:32:36 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
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Bwaahaaa, that link is a right wing kook rant! Bwaahhaaa. Everyoine
check it for yourselves. A Rant!
John Smith
>> ...
>> http://www.brookesnews.com/061704pilger.html
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>> Shill #2
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>> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
>> theobviousgcashman- Hide quoted text -
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> Bwaahaaa, that link is a right wing kook rant! Bwaahhaaa. Everyoine
> check it for yourselves. A Rant!
We should have never been there, Vietnam.
The justification(s) we finally came up were bogus, we had none ... one
would first have to past this to even begin to "find" honest reasons for
our involvement ...
Regards,
JS
BDK
34g2000pru.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
Doesn't seem all that right wing to me, but then again, to you, anyone
to the right of Stalin is a "winger".
skep...@aol.com
> In article <8466f591-6bc6-4ee8-8e07-d221b73c05ee@
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No what the governmet agent Govt Shill #2 posted was total lies and
invective, against John Pilger, which could have gotten the author of
the rant sued for libel. Any reader of this thread should blush with
shame for Govt. Shill #2 posting such cant.
george
> No what the governmet agent Govt Shill #2 posted was total lies and
> invective, against John Pilger, which could have gotten the author of
> the rant sued for libel. Any reader of this thread should blush with
> shame for Govt. Shill #2 posting such cant.
You 're siding with Pilger ?
At least you're consistently kooky
skep...@aol.com
John Pilger is one of the be film makers and journalists on the
planet. The wars against our bothers and sisters in Asia are a crime.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>John Pilger is one of the be film makers and journalists on the
>planet.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
You really do crack me up.
Shill #2
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But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who
are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at
Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo
the Clown.
Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
skep...@aol.com
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:00:08 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >John Pilger is one of the be film makers and journalists on the
> >planet.
>
> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
> You really do crack me up.
>
> Shill #2
> --
> But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who
> are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at
> Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo
> the Clown.
> Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
You laugh at little children when the US and Nato blows their ankles
of you sick fuck.
Here are some photos your troops grinning over dead bodies:
BDK
35g2000prp.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
No, we're laughing at YOU, you dumb fuck!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Once you professed your love of Stalin and Mao, you became a joke.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>On Jun 2, 2:09 pm, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:00:08 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >John Pilger is one of the be film makers and journalists on the
>> >planet.
>>
>> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>
>> You really do crack me up.
>>
>
>You laugh at little children when the US and Nato blows their ankles
>of you sick fuck.
Why do you lie like that? Is it pathological?
I laugh at *you*. You and your kOOky notions. Pilger is a moron who panders to
morons. You think he's a fine film maker and even a journalist. That makes you
very funny indeed.
Shill #2
--
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
one of us is a moron,
I think that it's you.
skep...@aol.com
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
I'll let John Pilger's work and fine reputation speak for its self,
you support the war, people can see through you. The war is a crime.
The people of the world are fighting back against the US and NATO, we
have the Arab revolts to support and cherish, as well as people
fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan to kick out the occupiers and our
brothers and sisters in Palestinine. It's the vile rulers of the world
oppressing the common people. I love the people and the people's
journalists and documentarians like John Pilger.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>On Jun 3, 4:02 pm, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jun 2, 2:09 pm, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:00:08 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >John Pilger is one of the be film makers and journalists on the
>> >> >planet.
>>
>> >> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>
>> >> You really do crack me up.
>>
>> >You laugh at little children when the US and Nato blows their ankles
>> >of you sick fuck.
>>
>> Why do you lie like that? Is it pathological?
>>
>> I laugh at *you*. You and your kOOky notions. Pilger is a moron who panders to
>> morons. You think he's a fine film maker and even a journalist. That makes you
>> very funny indeed.
>>
>I'll let John Pilger's work and fine reputation speak for its self,
>you support the war, people can see through you. The war is a crime.
>The people of the world are fighting back against the US and NATO, we
>have the Arab revolts to support and cherish, as well as people
>fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan to kick out the occupiers and our
>brothers and sisters in Palestinine. It's the vile rulers of the world
>oppressing the common people. I love the people and the people's
>journalists and documentarians like John Pilger.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
You have some funny ... ideas.
Rocky
"John Smith" <bit_b...@gmx.com> wrote in message
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> On 5/29/2011 2:09 AM, george wrote:
>> On May 29, 8:58 pm, "skepti...@aol.com"<skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Osama bin liner is dead.
>> Obama has to be elected for another term..
>> The simpler it is the harder it is for nutters to understand
>
> Obama Been Lian is alive and well!
Or Soetoro is barry little truth. But he did give himself a very nice
raise.
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