> >>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
> >>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
> >>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
> >> I prefer the nuclear option.
> > Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
> > going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
> > try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
> you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
> US did to the Jap in WW2.
So, what are the Iraqi and the Afghans going to do after their
homelands destroyed by US bombing?
> Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
The US is on their toe to guard against nukes being stolen into their
country. Long term expenditure in this management is taking a toll on
the US economy.
It is a lesson one must understand that war or unjust action will have
vast repercussion.
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:34:08 -0500, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 11/16/2012 4:07 PM, george152 wrote:
> >>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
> >>>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
> >>>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
> >>> I prefer the nuclear option.
> >> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
> >> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
> >> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
> >Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
> >Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
> >you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
> >US did to the Jap in WW2.
> >Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
> ..nah, all they really need to do is air drop a few thousand cartoon
> caricatures of Mohammad and the whole Gaza strip population will go
> nuts and implode.
<fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 16, 10:07 pm, John Locke <johnnydemon...@demonmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:34:08 -0500, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> >On 11/16/2012 4:07 PM, george152 wrote:
>> >>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>> >>>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
>> >>>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
>> >>> I prefer the nuclear option.
>> >> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
>> >> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
>> >> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
>> >Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
>> >Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
>> >you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
>> >US did to the Jap in WW2.
>> >Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
>> ..nah, all they really need to do is air drop a few thousand cartoon
>> caricatures of Mohammad and the whole Gaza strip population will go
>> nuts and implode.
>Drawn in fine Tijuana bible style.
...oh yes, I'm old enough to remember those naughty little pamphlets
floating around in grade school. It's hard to believe that the FBI
used to raid warehouses looking for Tijuana bibles, seize inventory
and arrest people for printing and distributing "pornography". Times
have really changed.
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:55:23 -0500, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol wrote:
>> BREAKING: Jerusalem Under Attack - Hamas Fires Missiles at Knesset!!
>> New Rounds Coming In
>> AL-Aqsa TV confirms the news about targeting the (Knesset) in
>> Jerusalem by Long-Range Missile to Jerusalem
>> the Knesset, Israel's parliament in Jerusalem
>> Now yids do not forget you angred my Gran'Da'Dy and he released his
>> worst beast on you... NOW YOU ALL ARE GONE DIE... and ITS G-D who does
>> this things...
>The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
..where ? The Gaza strip is only 260 sq km (slightly more than twice
the size of Washington, DC).
>>On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol wrote:
>>> BREAKING: Jerusalem Under Attack - Hamas Fires Missiles at Knesset!!
>>> New Rounds Coming In
>>> AL-Aqsa TV confirms the news about targeting the (Knesset) in
>>> Jerusalem by Long-Range Missile to Jerusalem
>>> the Knesset, Israel's parliament in Jerusalem
>>> Now yids do not forget you angred my Gran'Da'Dy and he released his
>>> worst beast on you... NOW YOU ALL ARE GONE DIE... and ITS G-D who does
>>> this things...
>>The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>..where ? The Gaza strip is only 260 sq km (slightly more than twice
>the size of Washington, DC).
Its time Israel was nuked off the face of the earth.
Then we might have world peace.
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:34:08 -0500, HVAC wrote:
> On 11/16/2012 4:07 PM, george152 wrote:
>>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>>>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
>>>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
>>> I prefer the nuclear option.
>> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
>> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
>> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that > you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the > US did to the Jap in WW2.
> Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
A nuke is not an option. Israel is far too close, and far too
small to accept the irradiation of any of its territory. for
that matter, nuking either Gaza or the West Bank would ruin the
very real estate the Israelis want to annex in the first place.
As for blowing holes in racial memories, that's pretty much what
happened to the Jews, and now look at them: so determined never
to be the victims again that they have turned around and become
perpetrators themselves.
> On Nov 17, 3:14 am, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>> On 17/11/12 04:55, HVAC wrote:> On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol wrote:
>>>> BREAKING: Jerusalem Under Attack - Hamas Fires Missiles at Knesset!!
>>>> New Rounds Coming In
>>>> AL-Aqsa TV confirms the news about targeting the (Knesset) in
>>>> Jerusalem by Long-Range Missile to Jerusalem
>>>> the Knesset, Israel's parliament in Jerusalem
>>>> Now yids do not forget you angred my Gran'Da'Dy and he released his
>>>> worst beast on you... NOW YOU ALL ARE GONE DIE... and ITS G-D who does
>>>> this things...
>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
> The problem started with Jews being given their current nationhood, by
> force.........
> It was like I armed myself with a machine gun going into your house to
> drive you out and claimed ownership.
History isn't your strong suit, I see. The Jews were there, in Israel,
for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before Islamic zealots invaded and
drove them out, 1400 years ago. It wasn't until 1948 that they
were able to get their homeland back, with the non Arab world's
help. If the shit really hits the fan, America will be there for Israel.
Chew on that, tool.
Partly cloudy, chance of rain...
> >>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
> >>>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
> >>>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
> >>> I prefer the nuclear option.
> >> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
> >> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
> >> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
> > Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
> > Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that > > you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the > > US did to the Jap in WW2.
> > Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
> A nuke is not an option. Israel is far too close, and far too
> small to accept the irradiation of any of its territory. for
> that matter, nuking either Gaza or the West Bank would ruin the
> very real estate the Israelis want to annex in the first place.
> As for blowing holes in racial memories, that's pretty much what
> happened to the Jews, and now look at them: so determined never
> to be the victims again that they have turned around and become
> perpetrators themselves.
Yes. It makes me very sad.
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> On Nov 17, 3:14 am, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>> On 17/11/12 04:55, HVAC wrote:> On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol wrote:
>>>> BREAKING: Jerusalem Under Attack - Hamas Fires Missiles at Knesset!!
>>>> New Rounds Coming In
>>>> AL-Aqsa TV confirms the news about targeting the (Knesset) in
>>>> Jerusalem by Long-Range Missile to Jerusalem
>>>> the Knesset, Israel's parliament in Jerusalem
>>>> Now yids do not forget you angred my Gran'Da'Dy and he released his
>>>> worst beast on you... NOW YOU ALL ARE GONE DIE... and ITS G-D who does
>>>> this things...
>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians back to
>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
> The problem started with Jews being given their current nationhood, by
> force.........
> It was like I armed myself with a machine gun going into your house to
> drive you out and claimed ownership.
Good point. The world was so mad at the Germans that they gave Palestine to the Jews.
> On Nov 17, 2:47 am, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/16/2012 1:25 PM, Warhol wrote:
>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>>>> ---
>>>> correction: it's time for the USA to level the whole middle east ...
>>>> they're animals and can be replaced
>>> LEt say the someone is gone be exterminated that sure... in the bible
>>> is written that the harlot will be burned by the beast... So the
>>> future for the harlots doesn't seem very bright...
>> Every muslum should be eradicated from the Earth, don't you agree Warhole?
> Muslims are part of the biblical followers. If they are eradicated,
> the next shall be the Christians, agree?
>>> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
>>> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
>>> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
>> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
>> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
>> you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
>> US did to the Jap in WW2.
> Sadly true. But the arabs are and have been in denial for centuries and
> blame every-one else for their mistakes.
> > Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
> It certainly smartened up Japanese thinking
The nuclear option in Japan SAVED many, many Jap lives.
A kid I grew up with father was the pilot of the aircraft that dropped
a nuke on Nagasaki. He RULED! The thought of killing 60,000 Japs with one shot gives me a woody.
>>> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
>>> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
>>> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
>> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
>> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
>> you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
>> US did to the Jap in WW2.
>>> Ashes don't learn. Several million people pushed into a smaller area are
>>> going to demand the insane islamists among them give up the sword and
>>> try talking their way back into the Gaza Strip
>> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
>> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
>> you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
>> US did to the Jap in WW2.
> So, what are the Iraqi and the Afghans going to do after their
> homelands destroyed by US bombing?
Both of those shit hole countries are better off now then before.
>> Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
> The US is on their toe to guard against nukes being stolen into their
> country. Long term expenditure in this management is taking a toll on
> the US economy.
Then why is Europe's economy in the shitter?
> It is a lesson one must understand that war or unjust action will have
> vast repercussion.
You believe the US dropping a nuke on Imperial Japan was unjust?
>> Look. Israel has been under the gun since their country was founded.
>> Sometimes you must respond in a manner SO violent and SO terrible that
>> you blow a hole right into your enemy's racial memory. Sort of what the
>> US did to the Jap in WW2.
>> Sometimes a nuke is the only way to be sure.
> A nuke is not an option. Israel is far too close, and far too
> small to accept the irradiation of any of its territory. for
> that matter, nuking either Gaza or the West Bank would ruin the
> very real estate the Israelis want to annex in the first place.
A small tactical nuke or two would create the perfect buffer zone.
> As for blowing holes in racial memories, that's pretty much what
> happened to the Jews, and now look at them: so determined never
> to be the victims again that they have turned around and become
> perpetrators themselves.
> On 11/16/12 9:31 PM, Yap wrote:
>> On Nov 17, 3:14 am, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>> On 17/11/12 04:55, HVAC wrote:> On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol
>>> wrote:
snip
>> The problem started with Jews being given their current nationhood,
>> by force.........
>> It was like I armed myself with a machine gun going into your house
>> to drive you out and claimed ownership.
> History isn't your strong suit, I see. The Jews were there, in Israel,
> for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before Islamic zealots invaded and
Erm, not according to history as well a archaeology, & other related disciplines. Nor the Hebrew anthology called a bible.
You see, prior to Islam throwing a block party, there was no Judea, since about 165Gr.
Before that, there was no claimed Judea prior to ca. -1200 -1100 Gr..
There likely was no Israel as pretended by the Hebrew anthology.
References on request.
> drove them out, 1400 years ago. It wasn't until 1948 that they
> were able to get their homeland back, with the non Arab world's
The guilt trip laid on the UN by the likes of Ben Gurion[sp] & other zionists was why it was permitted. & even then, there are/were those that opposed it. Not just the semetic population.
> help. If the shit really hits the fan, America will be there for
> Israel. Chew on that, tool.
If they start it, they are on their own as far as this vet is concerned.
& like you,. I don't tell the president what he should do.
> Partly cloudy, chance of rain...
That seems to sum up your attempt at usenet shame all right.
walksalone who is not startled at the idiocy following Obama getting re-
elected. Saddend yes, sartled, no.
If you have to pray, I suppose the following is as good as any.
"Homage to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. Thou art the governor of Tattu (Busiris), and also the mighty one in Sekhem (Letopolis). Thou art the Lord to whom praises are ascribed in the nome of Ati, thou art the Prince of divine food in Anu. Thou art the Lord who is commemorated in Maati, the Hidden Soul, the Lord of Qerrt (Elephantine), the Ruler supreme in White Wall (Memphis). Thou art the Soul of Ra, his own body, and hast thy place of rest in Henensu (Herakleopolis). Thou art the beneficent one, and art praised in Nart. Thou makest thy soul to be raised up. Thou art the Lord of the Great House in Khemenu (Hermopolis). Thou art the mighty one of victories in Shas-hetep, the Lord of eternity, the Governor of Abydos.
The path of his throne is in Ta-tcheser (a part of Abydos). Thy name is established in the mouths of men.
>> As for blowing holes in racial memories, that's pretty much what
>> happened to the Jews, and now look at them: so determined never
>> to be the victims again that they have turned around and become
>> perpetrators themselves.
> Yes. It makes me very sad.
Why? Would you rather that the Jews just rolled over?
Violence and war has changed the world more than all other
activities combined. It is what it is.
> The problem started with Jews being given their current nationhood, by
> force.........
> It was like I armed myself with a machine gun going into your house to
> drive you out and claimed ownership.
ALL lands were stolen from someone at some point in history.
A better analogy would be if someone came into some whiskey tango
trailer park inhabited by squatters, threw them out, then turned it
into a beautiful residential neighborhood.
THEN the squatters demanded that it be returned.
>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
> Why do you suggest this idiotic thing?
> A conflict is solved by reasoning and rational action, not the stupid
> "eye for an eye" approach.
I don't subscribe the the 'eye for an eye' approach.
I subscribe to the idea that if you threaten me, I will not only kill you, I will burn down your house, kill your entire family, and piss on your grave.
Once you do this a few times, people will stop threatening you.
> If by your reaction, the destruction of twin tower led to US invasion
> and killing of Afghan people, should the victims of this war then do
> something back to America in US soil?
What? Like they haven't tried?
Look, it's about who's values will go forward. Personally, I prefer OUR western values to the A-rabs values of oppressing women and islamic law.
I would be willing to kill every last A-rab to see that this is the case. Does that make me a bad person?
What people need to understand is that THEIR stated goal is the destruction of all non-muslums. Convert or kill is their philosophy.
So the time has come to choose sides. Who's side are YOU on? The side that grants freedom or the side that oppresses it?
> On 11/16/12 9:31 PM, Yap wrote:
>> On Nov 17, 3:14 am, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>> On 17/11/12 04:55, HVAC wrote:> On 11/16/2012 10:37 AM, Warhol wrote:
>>>>> BREAKING: Jerusalem Under Attack - Hamas Fires Missiles at Knesset!!
>>>>> New Rounds Coming In
>>>>> AL-Aqsa TV confirms the news about targeting the (Knesset) in
>>>>> Jerusalem by Long-Range Missile to Jerusalem
>>>>> the Knesset, Israel's parliament in Jerusalem
>>>>> Now yids do not forget you angred my Gran'Da'Dy and he released his
>>>>> worst beast on you... NOW YOU ALL ARE GONE DIE... and ITS G-D who
>>>>> does
>>>>> this things...
>>>> The time has come for Israel to deploy nuclear weapons.
>>> No. A simple invasion of the West Bank and push the Palestinians
>>> back to
>>> be out of missile range of any large Israeli city should suffice.
>> The problem started with Jews being given their current nationhood, by
>> force.........
>> It was like I armed myself with a machine gun going into your house to
>> drive you out and claimed ownership.
> History isn't your strong suit, I see. The Jews were there, in Israel,
> for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before Islamic zealots invaded and
> drove them out, 1400 years ago. It wasn't until 1948 that they
> were able to get their homeland back, with the non Arab world's
> help. If the shit really hits the fan, America will be there for Israel.
> Chew on that, tool.
> Partly cloudy, chance of rain...
By your reasoning, Native Americans should get their homeland back. They were here for THOUSANDS OF YEARS before the Christians zealots invaded and stole their land by force.
Your history is flawed as well. Jews were exiled from Palestine on many occasions. Here's a bit about one of the exiles. It's from your favorite "history" book.
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According to the Hebrew Bible, there were three deportations of Jews to Babylon: the exile of King Jeconiah, his court and many others in Nebuchadnezzar's eighth year; Jeconiah's successor Zedekiah and the rest of the people in Nebuchadnezzar's eighteenth year; and a later deportation in Nebuchadnezzar's twenty-third year.[citation needed] These are attributed to 597 BCE, 587 BCE, and 582 BCE, respectively.[citation needed] The forced exile ended in 538 BCE after the fall of Babylon to the Persian king Cyrus the Great, who gave the Jews permission to return to Yehud province and to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.[citation needed]