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Mitchell Holman
May 25, 2012, 8:20:36 AM5/25/12
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Priest Pleads Guilty to Child Exploitation Charges
May 24 2012
PITTSBURGH—A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
federal court to charges of violating federal child
sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
David J Hickton announced today.
Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
sexually explicit conduct.
In connection with the guilty plea, the court was
advised that Sorensen, a priest at St. John Fisher
Church in Churchill, received and possessed many
images of minors being sexually abused between
June 2011 and December 9, 2011.
“This case is particularly disturbing because it
involves a priest, a man in a position of great trust,
viewing horrific and degrading images of children,”
United States Attorney Hickton said. "Consumers of
these violent sexual images fuel the production of
more images, and the demand for increasingly extreme
content. This is not a ‘victimless’ crime."
http://tinyurl.com/7w4eoen
Patrick
May 25, 2012, 1:29:15 PM5/25/12
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"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> David J Hickton announced today.
> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> sexually explicit conduct.
Gosh. Child porn.
> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> David J Hickton announced today.
> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> sexually explicit conduct.
Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
Alan Ferris
May 26, 2012, 4:49:26 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:29:15 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
You have just got to defend those child molesters.
"+ This was a bump in the road.
+ To be forgotten in 5 years."
- P Barker on priestly abuse
wrote:
"+ This was a bump in the road.
+ To be forgotten in 5 years."
- P Barker on priestly abuse
R.Measures
May 26, 2012, 6:45:01 AM5/26/12
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In article <a761s7pc58p96ljhq...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:29:15 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >> sexually explicit conduct.
> >
> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
> >
> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
• Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:29:15 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >> sexually explicit conduct.
> >
> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
> >
> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
Patrick
May 26, 2012, 8:36:57 AM5/26/12
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"R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
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> . Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
I am blaming the person who collected porn; the fag himself.
You are the one who wishes to blame the organization he belongs to.
news:r-2605120...@10.0.1.3...
I am blaming the person who collected porn; the fag himself.
You are the one who wishes to blame the organization he belongs to.
•R.Measures
May 26, 2012, 10:18:05 AM5/26/12
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In article <rJSdndTw_Zr0U13S...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** abettors to criminals are blameless?
Mitchell Holman
May 26, 2012, 11:01:33 AM5/26/12
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"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in
news:rJSdndTw_Zr0U13S...@posted.localnet:
The article makes no mention of anyone being gay.
Who is the "fag"?
news:rJSdndTw_Zr0U13S...@posted.localnet:
Who is the "fag"?
Patrick
May 26, 2012, 1:23:28 PM5/26/12
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Patrick
May 26, 2012, 1:24:06 PM5/26/12
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May 26, 2012, 1:30:55 PM5/26/12
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•R.Measures
May 26, 2012, 5:04:35 PM5/26/12
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In article <w86dnS6WNeANjFzS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** The abettors were those bishops who helped pedo-priests dodge
justice. See the finding of the Grand Jury in Philadelphia. Alan F. has
a copy.
> Then, prove it.
justice. See the finding of the Grand Jury in Philadelphia. Alan F. has
a copy.
> Then, prove it.
Mitchell Holman
May 26, 2012, 6:26:23 PM5/26/12
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"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in
news:RZGdnX0ikcQqjFzS...@posted.localnet:
You don't think your Pedophile Priests go after girls?
The Forgotten Victims Of Priest Sexual Abuse: Girls
April 16 2010
Pat Wingert and Barbara Kantrowitz tackle the issue in
Newsweek, writing that previous conceptions of priest
sexual abuse "seemed to suggest that this scenario
ignored a whole segment of victims: young girls." In
talking to experts, they found that girls were less
likely to face abuse at the hands of priests - at least
among reported cases, there were four male victims for
every one female - but that it did happen. Girls were
typically younger at the time of the abuse, but they
were also more likely to be their abusers' only victim,
and perpetrators who had just one victim were less
likely to abuse for more than a year.
http://tinyurl.com/yyvsg9p
news:RZGdnX0ikcQqjFzS...@posted.localnet:
The Forgotten Victims Of Priest Sexual Abuse: Girls
April 16 2010
Pat Wingert and Barbara Kantrowitz tackle the issue in
Newsweek, writing that previous conceptions of priest
sexual abuse "seemed to suggest that this scenario
ignored a whole segment of victims: young girls." In
talking to experts, they found that girls were less
likely to face abuse at the hands of priests - at least
among reported cases, there were four male victims for
every one female - but that it did happen. Girls were
typically younger at the time of the abuse, but they
were also more likely to be their abusers' only victim,
and perpetrators who had just one victim were less
likely to abuse for more than a year.
http://tinyurl.com/yyvsg9p
Patrick
May 26, 2012, 7:45:39 PM5/26/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote
Read my last post to you.
The abettors (you claim) are DEAD.
> ** The abettors were those bishops who helped pedo-priests dodge
> justice. See the finding of the Grand Jury in Philadelphia. Alan F. has
> a copy.
So do I.
> justice. See the finding of the Grand Jury in Philadelphia. Alan F. has
> a copy.
Read my last post to you.
The abettors (you claim) are DEAD.
Patrick
May 26, 2012, 7:46:49 PM5/26/12
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"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
If there are any left, point them out.
I'll hang your buddies along with you.
> You don't think your Pedophile Priests go after girls?
I don't have any pedo priests.
If there are any left, point them out.
I'll hang your buddies along with you.
Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:56:27 PM5/26/12
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Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:57:11 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 8:36 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
>
> news:r-2605120...@10.0.1.3...
>
>
>
> > In article <a761s7pc58p96ljhqh5kuhmm34pbjvb...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> "R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
>
> news:r-2605120...@10.0.1.3...
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>
> > <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:29:15 -0400, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >> >> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> >> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
>
> >> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
> > . Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
>
> I am blaming the person who collected porn but wouldn't share it with me.
>
> >> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >> >> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> >> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
>
> >> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
> > . Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
>
Alan Ferris
May 27, 2012, 4:57:33 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 19:45:39 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
Liar.
The best available study of bishops accused of enabling abuse is
Two-Thirds of Bishops Let Accused Priests Work, by Brooks Egerton and
Reese Dunklin (Dallas Morning News, June 12, 2002), with its table
Bishops' Record in Cases of Accused Priests. We are currently
reviewing that table and updating it. We have recently revised a
spreadsheet showing the status of each bishop analyzed by Egerton and
Dunklin. It shows that:
Of the 109 bishops identified in the Dallas Morning News survey,
only 33 bishops (30%) are still managing the same diocese. Of the
others:
12 have resigned,
45 have retired,
15 were promoted, and
3 died in office
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/data.htm#enabling_bishops
a spreadsheet showing the status of each bishop
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/resources/resource-files/databases/enabling_bishops_update.xls
Why do you keep defeding the rape of children?
"+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
+ I blame the parents for covering it up.
+ I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
- P Barker 21Feb2004
wrote:
The best available study of bishops accused of enabling abuse is
Two-Thirds of Bishops Let Accused Priests Work, by Brooks Egerton and
Reese Dunklin (Dallas Morning News, June 12, 2002), with its table
Bishops' Record in Cases of Accused Priests. We are currently
reviewing that table and updating it. We have recently revised a
spreadsheet showing the status of each bishop analyzed by Egerton and
Dunklin. It shows that:
Of the 109 bishops identified in the Dallas Morning News survey,
only 33 bishops (30%) are still managing the same diocese. Of the
others:
12 have resigned,
45 have retired,
15 were promoted, and
3 died in office
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/data.htm#enabling_bishops
a spreadsheet showing the status of each bishop
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/resources/resource-files/databases/enabling_bishops_update.xls
Why do you keep defeding the rape of children?
"+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
+ I blame the parents for covering it up.
+ I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
- P Barker 21Feb2004
Alan Ferris
May 27, 2012, 4:58:26 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 19:46:49 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
Liar, you defend them daily.
"+ Well, it seems like sexual abuse seems to be the latest fad"
- P Barker
wrote:
"+ Well, it seems like sexual abuse seems to be the latest fad"
- P Barker
•R.Measures
May 27, 2012, 9:10:21 AM5/27/12
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In article <ToudnZHctfq59lzS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** If the bishop and archbishop abettors died they have have been
replaced by new ones who will continue as before. As in the Sicilian
mafia, omertá is the unwritten rule.
replaced by new ones who will continue as before. As in the Sicilian
mafia, omertá is the unwritten rule.
•R.Measures
May 27, 2012, 9:19:24 AM5/27/12
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In article <26mdnYGJ4oT09lzS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** The flip side of the predator problem is the horny Lolitas who
"confess" to a certain priest that they have sinned by wanting to hook up
with someone who very closely resembles him. I read a book by one priest
who had a secret passageway built from the Confessional to his bedroom to
expedite hooking up.
"confess" to a certain priest that they have sinned by wanting to hook up
with someone who very closely resembles him. I read a book by one priest
who had a secret passageway built from the Confessional to his bedroom to
expedite hooking up.
The_Echo_Chamber
May 27, 2012, 12:30:21 PM5/27/12
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On May 25, 1:29 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
homosexuality and pedophilia, but he's not much for that "learnin
stuff", so he continues to remain an illiterate bigot.
The_Echo_Chamber
May 27, 2012, 12:32:30 PM5/27/12
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On May 26, 6:26 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote innews:RZGdnX0ikcQqjFzS...@posted.localnet:
homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
> "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote innews:RZGdnX0ikcQqjFzS...@posted.localnet:
>
>
>
> > "Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:XnsA05F65CA6BD99...@216.196.121.131...
> >> "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote in
>
>
> > "Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:XnsA05F65CA6BD99...@216.196.121.131...
> >>news:rJSdndTw_Zr0U13S...@posted.localnet:
>
> >>> "R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:r-2605120...@10.0.1.3...
>
> >>> "R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:r-2605120...@10.0.1.3...
> >>>> In article <a761s7pc58p96ljhqh5kuhmm34pbjvb...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> <barker...@erinot.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >>>>> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >>>>> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >>>>> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >>>>> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >>>>> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >>>>> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >>>>> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >>>>> >> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> >>>>> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >>>>> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
>
> >>>>> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
> >>>> . Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
>
> >>> I am blaming the person who collected porn; the fag himself.
>
> >> The article makes no mention of anyone being gay.
> > Who is the "fag"?
>
> > The person who collected the porn, dontchuknow....
>
> You don't think your Pedophile Priests go after girls?
>
We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> >"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> wrote
> >>>>> >> PITTSBURGH-A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> >>>>> >> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> >>>>> >> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> >>>>> >> David J Hickton announced today.
> >>>>> >> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> >>>>> >> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> >>>>> >> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> >>>>> >> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> >>>>> >Gosh. Child porn.
> >>>>> >Must a another fag that slipped through the seminary.
>
> >>>>> You have just got to defend those child molesters.
>
> >>>> . Like Lady Macbeth he's past the point of no return.
>
> >>> I am blaming the person who collected porn; the fag himself.
>
> >> The article makes no mention of anyone being gay.
> > Who is the "fag"?
>
> > The person who collected the porn, dontchuknow....
>
> You don't think your Pedophile Priests go after girls?
>
homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
Patrick
May 27, 2012, 1:40:22 PM5/27/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
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It is unwritten....
Patrick
May 27, 2012, 1:41:44 PM5/27/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
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Yeah, right.....
Who wrote it?
Brown? Oliver Stone?
news:r-2705120...@10.0.1.3...
Who wrote it?
Brown? Oliver Stone?
Patrick
May 27, 2012, 1:44:00 PM5/27/12
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"The_Echo_Chamber" <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote
not wish to know the difference. Only those of you who
enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I do
homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
not wish to know the difference. Only those of you who
enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
The_Echo_Chamber
May 27, 2012, 1:56:44 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 1:44 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
ignorant.
> Only those of you who
> enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
I can't imagine anyone enjoying the study of such things. Honest
people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things just
because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. Knowing the
truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
but you can't stand the possibility of not hating.
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> + Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I do
> not wish to know the difference.
Which clearly proves my statement that you willfully choose to remain
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> + Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I do
> not wish to know the difference.
ignorant.
> Only those of you who
> enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things just
because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. Knowing the
truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
but you can't stand the possibility of not hating.
Paul Duca
May 27, 2012, 6:36:50 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 1:44 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> + Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I only
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> wish to know the difference, so I can tell which one will get me money
> by dangling my grandson in front of him.
Patrick
May 27, 2012, 7:14:48 PM5/27/12
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"The_Echo_Chamber" <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote
+ I also don't wish to know how many years your mom spent in prison.
+ Or how many innocent kids your brother killed in Texas.
> Only those of you who
> enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
I can't imagine anyone enjoying the study of such things.
+ Yet, you demand I learn about the difference between scum and shit.
+ I don't have a need to know such things, and it is a waste of time for me.
On May 27, 1:44 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> + Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I do
> not wish to know the difference.
Which clearly proves my statement that you willfully choose to remain
ignorant.
+ Also, I don't care to know how many scum sucking kids you hvae.
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> We've been trying to education Patty on the difference between
> homosexuality and pedophilia. But, since he's not one for learnin, he
> willfully remains an uneducated, illiterate bigot.
>
> + Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates, I do
> not wish to know the difference.
Which clearly proves my statement that you willfully choose to remain
ignorant.
+ I also don't wish to know how many years your mom spent in prison.
+ Or how many innocent kids your brother killed in Texas.
> Only those of you who
> enjoy studying such things can do so with glee.
I can't imagine anyone enjoying the study of such things.
+ I don't have a need to know such things, and it is a waste of time for me.
The_Echo_Chamber
May 27, 2012, 9:28:13 PM5/27/12
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dishonestly snipped):
"Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
just
because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. Knowing the
truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
Hatred, on the other hand...
•R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 12:21:36 AM5/28/12
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In article <Z8udnUVC153E-l_S...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** I read his book c. 1971 and I do not recall his name.
Patrick
May 28, 2012, 7:21:10 AM5/28/12
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Patrick
May 28, 2012, 7:23:35 AM5/28/12
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"The_Echo_Chamber" <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote
Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
dishonestly snipped):
"Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
just because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. Knowing the
truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
Hatred, on the other hand...
+ Noted. And meaningless.
I do not now - nor do I ever wish to -
learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
or study the difference.
Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
dishonestly snipped):
"Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
just because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. Knowing the
truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
Hatred, on the other hand...
I do not now - nor do I ever wish to -
learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
or study the difference.
•R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 10:10:31 AM5/28/12
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In article <wNCdnT029IU6wl7S...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** He was retired when he wrote the book. . . After reading about his
experiences of hearing the confessions of nubile Lolitas who were seeking
to get laid, the light came on and I realized that gay guys were uniquely
qualified to hear the confessions of such women.
experiences of hearing the confessions of nubile Lolitas who were seeking
to get laid, the light came on and I realized that gay guys were uniquely
qualified to hear the confessions of such women.
Alan Ferris
May 28, 2012, 3:05:06 PM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:44:00 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
>+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
Who you constantly defend when they rape children:
wrote:
>+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
The_Echo_Chamber
May 28, 2012, 4:47:31 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 7:23 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
Patty further proves that he chooses to remain a willfully ignorant
bigot. Faux christians like Patty are always afraid of the truth.
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
bigot. Faux christians like Patty are always afraid of the truth.
•R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 5:27:43 PM5/28/12
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In article <82j7s7t6dmkipsgud...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
•R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 5:28:44 PM5/28/12
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In article
<106f208f-93ef-4d6d...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
The_Echo_Chamber <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 7:23=A0am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> > "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >
> > Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
> > dishonestly snipped):
> > "Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
> > just because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. =A0Knowing the
<106f208f-93ef-4d6d...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
The_Echo_Chamber <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 7:23=A0am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> > "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >
> > Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
> > dishonestly snipped):
> > "Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
> > truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred,
> > but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
> > Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
> > Hatred, on the other hand...
> >
> > + Noted. =A0And meaningless.
> > but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
> > Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
> > Hatred, on the other hand...
> >
> > I do not now - nor do I ever wish to -
> > learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
> > or study the difference.
>
> Patty further proves that he chooses to remain a willfully ignorant
> bigot. Faux christians like Patty are always afraid of the truth.
• Christianity and truth are strangers.
> > learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
> > or study the difference.
>
> Patty further proves that he chooses to remain a willfully ignorant
> bigot. Faux christians like Patty are always afraid of the truth.
Free Lunch
May 28, 2012, 5:55:44 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (�R.Measures) wrote in
alt.atheism:
The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
alt.atheism:
Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
dolf
May 28, 2012, 6:11:51 PM5/28/12
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That's a little disingenuous of you free-lunch.
Could have equally acknowledged the corruption of the bishops by my
earlier strong piece of evidence
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (�R.Measures) wrote in
> alt.atheism:
probably looking for a free lunch.
They didn't check any others so I think I'm getting preferential
treatment from them.
On 29/05/12 7:46 AM, Free Lunch (lu...@nofreelunch.us) wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:08:33 +1000, dolf<dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>> THEOREM #3 - Therefore, the central point which we see in the centre of
>> the hieroglyphic Monad produces the Earth, round which the Sun (AN
>> OBVIOUS ERROR), the Moon, and the other planets follow their respective
>> paths. The Sun has the supreme dignity, and we represent him by a
>> circle having a visible centre.
>
I acknowledged the error of Dr Dee in 1564 CE
In point fact I said, if the Julian Calendar was out by 11 days by
1582--they forced by a complex system of philosophical / theological
belief, a perverse psychology (it is mechanical) on the population.
They then slaughtered all who objected when they were in ERROR themselves.
- show quoted text -
Wasn't the American constitution framed by those same principles?
Could have equally acknowledged the corruption of the bishops by my
earlier strong piece of evidence
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (�R.Measures) wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>
>> ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
The garbage collectors checked my bins before emptying them this morning
>> ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
probably looking for a free lunch.
They didn't check any others so I think I'm getting preferential
treatment from them.
On 29/05/12 7:46 AM, Free Lunch (lu...@nofreelunch.us) wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:08:33 +1000, dolf<dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>> THEOREM #3 - Therefore, the central point which we see in the centre of
>> the hieroglyphic Monad produces the Earth, round which the Sun (AN
>> OBVIOUS ERROR), the Moon, and the other planets follow their respective
>> paths. The Sun has the supreme dignity, and we represent him by a
>> circle having a visible centre.
>
I acknowledged the error of Dr Dee in 1564 CE
In point fact I said, if the Julian Calendar was out by 11 days by
1582--they forced by a complex system of philosophical / theological
belief, a perverse psychology (it is mechanical) on the population.
They then slaughtered all who objected when they were in ERROR themselves.
- show quoted text -
Wasn't the American constitution framed by those same principles?
dolf
May 28, 2012, 6:13:08 PM5/28/12
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That's a little disingenuous of you free-lunch.
You could have equally acknowledged the corruption of the bishops by my
earlier strong piece of evidence
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
>> ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
The garbage collectors checked my bins before emptying them this morning
probably looking for a free lunch.
They didn't check any others so I think I'm getting preferential
treatment from them.
On 29/05/12 7:46 AM, Free Lunch (lu...@nofreelunch.us) wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:08:33 +1000, dolf<dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>> THEOREM #3 - Therefore, the central point which we see in the centre of
>> the hieroglyphic Monad produces the Earth, round which the Sun (AN
>> OBVIOUS ERROR), the Moon, and the other planets follow their respective
>> paths. The Sun has the supreme dignity, and we represent him by a
>> circle having a visible centre.
>
I acknowledged the error of Dr Dee in 1564 CE
In point fact I said, if the Julian Calendar was out by 11 days by
1582--they forced by a complex system of philosophical / theological
belief, a perverse psychology (it is mechanical) on the population.
They then slaughtered all who objected when they were in ERROR themselves.
> [further efforts honored and removed]
probably looking for a free lunch.
They didn't check any others so I think I'm getting preferential
treatment from them.
On 29/05/12 7:46 AM, Free Lunch (lu...@nofreelunch.us) wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:08:33 +1000, dolf<dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>> THEOREM #3 - Therefore, the central point which we see in the centre of
>> the hieroglyphic Monad produces the Earth, round which the Sun (AN
>> OBVIOUS ERROR), the Moon, and the other planets follow their respective
>> paths. The Sun has the supreme dignity, and we represent him by a
>> circle having a visible centre.
>
I acknowledged the error of Dr Dee in 1564 CE
In point fact I said, if the Julian Calendar was out by 11 days by
1582--they forced by a complex system of philosophical / theological
belief, a perverse psychology (it is mechanical) on the population.
They then slaughtered all who objected when they were in ERROR themselves.
>
> ....
>
> Truly a remarkable piece of writing that all theists should be able to
> recognize and bow down to...
dolf
May 28, 2012, 6:33:29 PM5/28/12
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That's a little disingenuous of you free-lunch.
You could have equally acknowledged the corruption of the bishops by my
earlier strong piece of evidence
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
You could have equally acknowledged the corruption of the bishops by my
earlier strong piece of evidence
On 29/05/12 7:55 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
>> ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
>
> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
The garbage collectors checked my bins before emptying them this morning
probably looking for a free lunch.
I have advised the Wellington City Council: "The Garbage collectors
probably looking for a free lunch.
failed to empty my bins correctly. Left them in a disarray and
physically checked them for compliance before emptying them.
Obviously this is related to my past complaint about their
non-participation in ANZAC day. Should any further disparity as
preferential service be noted, a legal claim will be made against you."
Patrick
May 28, 2012, 6:49:50 PM5/28/12
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"The_Echo_Chamber" <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106f208f-93ef-4d6d...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
+ You go ahead and explain the difference between shit and scum.
+ I am sure your buddies will appreciate it.
+ After all, they don't wish to be woefully ignorant bigots.
news:106f208f-93ef-4d6d...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
+ I am sure your buddies will appreciate it.
+ After all, they don't wish to be woefully ignorant bigots.
Patrick
May 28, 2012, 6:52:03 PM5/28/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2805121...@10.0.1.3...
I blame anyone who did not report the abuse.
This includes bishops, parents, and the victims themselves.
Because abuse was not reported to the civil authorities,
more victims were abused. Shame on the parents of victims.
news:r-2805121...@10.0.1.3...
This includes bishops, parents, and the victims themselves.
Because abuse was not reported to the civil authorities,
more victims were abused. Shame on the parents of victims.
Patrick
May 28, 2012, 6:52:37 PM5/28/12
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"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:32t7s79vp3ercb434...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote in
<yawn>
Jesus did not INVENT it.
news:32t7s79vp3ercb434...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote in
Jesus did not INVENT it.
Mitchell Holman
May 28, 2012, 7:41:53 PM5/28/12
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"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in
news:MOqdnd2h07oOnFnS...@posted.localnet:
Amzazing. A priest abuses a gullible pre-teen,
swears them to silence under holy orders, and it
is the parents who get the blame?
What are you smoking?
news:MOqdnd2h07oOnFnS...@posted.localnet:
swears them to silence under holy orders, and it
is the parents who get the blame?
What are you smoking?
�R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 8:43:27 PM5/28/12
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In article <32t7s79vp3ercb434...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
� Indeed. Catholic author Peter Yallop calls it Vatican, Inc. I have
never heard of the RCC teaching anything about:
"But whoever is a cause of trouble to one of these little ones who have
faith in me, it would be better for him to have a great stone fixed to his
neck, and to come to his end in the deep sea".
Matthew 18:6, Bible in Basic English
never heard of the RCC teaching anything about:
"But whoever is a cause of trouble to one of these little ones who have
faith in me, it would be better for him to have a great stone fixed to his
neck, and to come to his end in the deep sea".
Matthew 18:6, Bible in Basic English
•R.Measures
May 28, 2012, 8:48:12 PM5/28/12
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In article <MOqdnd2h07oOnFnS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** Some parents reported the problem to the higher-ups in their
archdiocese and were stonewalled. Kudos to the courageous
Catholic mother in Vermillion Parish who refused to take the archbishop's
hush-money and took the case to trial. .
archdiocese and were stonewalled. Kudos to the courageous
Catholic mother in Vermillion Parish who refused to take the archbishop's
hush-money and took the case to trial. .
The_Echo_Chamber
May 28, 2012, 9:57:54 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 5:28 pm, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
> In article
> <106f208f-93ef-4d6d-8294-923b0d963...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
And, Patty proves it with nearly every post.
> In article
> <106f208f-93ef-4d6d-8294-923b0d963...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
May 28, 2012, 10:30:53 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 7:23 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> or study the difference. I'm saving that to occupy myself in Heaven.
> "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
May 28, 2012, 10:31:40 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 6:52 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
>
> news:r-2805121...@10.0.1.3...
>
>
>
> > In article <82j7s7t6dmkipsgudi1crhgl93k6oh1...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
>
> news:r-2805121...@10.0.1.3...
>
>
>
> > <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:44:00 -0400, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
>
> >> Who you constantly defend when they rape children:
>
> >> "+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
> >> + I blame the parents for covering it up.
> >> + I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
> >> - P Barker 21Feb2004
>
> > ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> I blame myself for not letting my kids get abused
>
> >> >+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
>
> >> Who you constantly defend when they rape children:
>
> >> "+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
> >> + I blame the parents for covering it up.
> >> + I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
> >> - P Barker 21Feb2004
>
> > ** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
>
> so I could collect a big payday.
Free Lunch
May 28, 2012, 10:59:05 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:37 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
Correct. The Roman Catholic Church invented the Jesus it wanted so it
could gain power and control. Constantine found a wonderful tool in the
Catholic Church for his purposes. God has nothing to do with this
religion at all.
wrote in alt.atheism:
could gain power and control. Constantine found a wonderful tool in the
Catholic Church for his purposes. God has nothing to do with this
religion at all.
•R.Measures
May 29, 2012, 8:10:04 AM5/29/12
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In article
<eb0d32bb-91ed-4623...@s37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
The_Echo_Chamber <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:28=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <106f208f-93ef-4d6d-8294-923b0d963...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The_Echo_Chamber <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ng the
> > > > truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred=
> .
> >
> > =95 =A0Christianity and truth are strangers.
<eb0d32bb-91ed-4623...@s37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
The_Echo_Chamber <echoch...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:28=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <106f208f-93ef-4d6d-8294-923b0d963...@c19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The_Echo_Chamber <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 28, 7:23=3DA0am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> > > > "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >
> > > > Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
> > > > dishonestly snipped):
> > > > "Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
> > > > just because they don't like them, and seek out the truth. =3DA0Knowi=
> > > > "The_Echo_Chamber" <echochambe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >
> > > > Restoring the part that Patty doesn't like to deal with (and
> > > > dishonestly snipped):
> > > > "Honest people, however, don't choose to remain ignorant about things
> ng the
> > > > truth would require a hater like you to possibly rethink their hatred=
> ,
> > > > but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
> > > > Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
> > > > Hatred, on the other hand...
> >
> > > > + Noted. =3DA0And meaningless.
> > > > but you can't stand the possibility of not hating."
> > > > Clearly, honesty isn't an attribute that's important to Patty.
> > > > Hatred, on the other hand...
> >
> > > > I do not now - nor do I ever wish to -
> > > > learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
> > > > or study the difference.
> >
> > > Patty further proves that he chooses to remain a willfully ignorant
> > > bigot. =A0 =A0Faux christians like Patty are always afraid of the truth=
> > > > learn the chemical composition of shit or scum....
> > > > or study the difference.
> >
> > > Patty further proves that he chooses to remain a willfully ignorant
> .
> >
> > =95 =A0Christianity and truth are strangers.
>
> And, Patty proves it with nearly every post.
€€ Patrick B. and Duke -- the answer to critic of the RCC's prayers.
> And, Patty proves it with nearly every post.
•R.Measures
May 29, 2012, 8:17:21 AM5/29/12
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In article <vpe8s71fflkt2ndcf...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
АА If Satan is the father of the lie, the Coverup of the
pedo/ephebo-priest problem suggests that Satan may be somewhat more
involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
pedo/ephebo-priest problem suggests that Satan may be somewhat more
involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
Alan Ferris
May 29, 2012, 12:59:58 PM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:37 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
it.
"+ Well, it seems like sexual abuse seems to be the latest fad"
- P Barker
�R.Measures
May 29, 2012, 3:36:17 PM5/29/12
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In article <430as7hp6slg9e455...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
Matthew 18:6 (NIV)
�If anyone causes one of these little ones�those who believe in me�to
stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around
their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
<hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:37 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
> >news:32t7s79vp3ercb434...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote in
> >> alt.atheism:
> >>
> >>>In article <82j7s7t6dmkipsgud...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> >>><hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:44:00 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
> >>>>
> >>>> Who you constantly defend when they rape children:
> >>>>
> >>>> "+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
> >>>> + I blame the parents for covering it up.
> >>>> + I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
> >>>> - P Barker 21Feb2004
> >>>
> >>>** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
> >>
> >> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> >> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
> >
> ><yawn>
> >Jesus did not INVENT it.
>
> Damn right Jesus did not invent Catholicism, he would be disgusted by
> it.
>
** ... and probably his mom too Alan.
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:37 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
> >news:32t7s79vp3ercb434...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:27:43 -0700, r...@somis.org (.R.Measures) wrote in
> >> alt.atheism:
> >>
> >>>In article <82j7s7t6dmkipsgud...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> >>><hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 13:44:00 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >+ Since both are despicable, scum sucking degenerates,
> >>>>
> >>>> Who you constantly defend when they rape children:
> >>>>
> >>>> "+ I blame the parents for allowing it to happen.
> >>>> + I blame the parents for covering it up.
> >>>> + I blame the parents for not allowing closure to abuse."
> >>>> - P Barker 21Feb2004
> >>>
> >>>** Blame anyone other than those with Holy Orders.
> >>
> >> The corruption of the bishops is a strong piece of evidence that
> >> Catholicism is a purely human enterprise.
> >
> ><yawn>
> >Jesus did not INVENT it.
>
> Damn right Jesus did not invent Catholicism, he would be disgusted by
> it.
>
Matthew 18:6 (NIV)
�If anyone causes one of these little ones�those who believe in me�to
stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around
their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
linuxgal
May 29, 2012, 10:28:07 PM5/29/12
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Alan Ferris wrote:
> Damn right Jesus did not invent Catholicism, he would be disgusted by
> it.
He's turning over in his grave as we speak.
> Damn right Jesus did not invent Catholicism, he would be disgusted by
> it.
duke
May 30, 2012, 7:57:23 AM5/30/12
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>pedo/ephebo-priest problem suggests that Satan may be somewhat more
>involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
The Pope goes to confession weekly.
>involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
duke - American American
*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****
duke
May 30, 2012, 7:58:11 AM5/30/12
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duke
May 30, 2012, 7:58:47 AM5/30/12
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•R.Measures
May 30, 2012, 11:47:37 AM5/30/12
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In article <3o2cs7d8m7c0u044e...@4ax.com>, duke
€€ Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been invented.
•R.Measures
May 30, 2012, 11:50:15 AM5/30/12
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In article <np2cs757eftrd02du...@4ax.com>, duke
• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
Patrick
May 30, 2012, 1:56:57 PM5/30/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-3005120...@10.0.1.3...
>> >pedo/ephebo-priest problem suggests that Satan may be somewhat more
>> >involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
>>
>> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
>>
>> duke - American American
>>
> ?? Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been
>> >involved with "God's Holy Church" than God is.
>>
>> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
>>
>> duke - American American
>>
> invented.
John 20:23.........
New International Version (�1984)
If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
them, they are not forgiven."
New Living Translation (�2007)
If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive them,
they are not forgiven."
English Standard Version (�2001)
If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold
forgiveness from any, it is withheld."
New American Standard Bible (�1995)
"If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you
retain the sins of any, they have been retained."
�R.Measures
May 30, 2012, 5:09:14 PM5/30/12
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In article <aI-dnXgsX9X0wlvS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
** which backs up The Sermon on the Mount of Olives -- i.e., forgiveness
of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
clever tool used by the Church of Scientology� and other cults to control
subscribers.
of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
clever tool used by the Church of Scientology� and other cults to control
subscribers.
Free Lunch
May 30, 2012, 6:54:30 PM5/30/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 06:57:23 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:
So? Does that make him moral? I see no evidence to support that
hypothesis.
alt.atheism:
hypothesis.
duke
May 31, 2012, 8:26:34 AM5/31/12
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duke
May 31, 2012, 8:28:11 AM5/31/12
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duke
May 31, 2012, 8:29:30 AM5/31/12
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avoided sinning.
duke
May 31, 2012, 12:05:28 PM5/31/12
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Alan Ferris
May 31, 2012, 3:15:07 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:26:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
>>>
>>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
>
>Then that makes 3 of us.
Liar:
>>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
>>>
>>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
>
>Then that makes 3 of us.
"Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
"only a fool fails to understand that a lot of fathers
teasingly pinch their daughters and mothers teasingly touch
their sons. It's called child molestation outside the
family unit." - duke (Earl J Weber)
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching
nipples (pre breast type) and comparing how that's quite
alright in a family setting but clearly and quickly labeled
as child molestation outside the family setting."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
"As I've stated before, the comment is from a ng discussion
addressing a double standard - what is considered "ok" in
the family setting quickly becomes molestation by an outsider.
You can see that in the comment itself." - duke (Earl J Weber)
•R.Measures
May 31, 2012, 4:51:52 PM5/31/12
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In article <7roes7hmm26ttbgvn...@4ax.com>, duke
• Only one of us called the victims extortionists and liars. Also, I do
not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
requested. However, such should be performed in private upon request by
adult females who enjoy the procedure and are forthcoming as to how they
like to have it done.
not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
requested. However, such should be performed in private upon request by
adult females who enjoy the procedure and are forthcoming as to how they
like to have it done.
•R.Measures
May 31, 2012, 4:54:18 PM5/31/12
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•R.Measures
May 31, 2012, 5:00:50 PM5/31/12
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In article <jl5fs7hmoknnfbuch...@4ax.com>, duke
• The trouble with pre-rabbinical Judaism is that it borrowed way too
damn too much stupid pagan bullshit from the neighbors. The problem with
the Day of Atonement is that it was like a Get Out of Jail Free Card and
it contradicts The Sermon on the Mount of Olives. .
damn too much stupid pagan bullshit from the neighbors. The problem with
the Day of Atonement is that it was like a Get Out of Jail Free Card and
it contradicts The Sermon on the Mount of Olives. .
•R.Measures
May 31, 2012, 5:02:03 PM5/31/12
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In article <0pgfs7dupg2dn0829...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:26:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
> >>>
> >>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
> >
> >Then that makes 3 of us.
>
> Liar:
>
> "Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
> young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
> parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
> wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
> of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
• Please say it ain't so Earl.
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:26:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
> >>>
> >>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
> >
> >Then that makes 3 of us.
>
> Liar:
>
> "Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
> young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
> parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
> wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
> of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
Free Lunch
May 31, 2012, 6:51:29 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:29:30 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
What does that have to do with the Pope who clearly has no problem with
the fact that he is running a corrupt government. Sinning and confessing
when it is clear you will continue to sin shows us only that you are
corrupt.
the fact that he is running a corrupt government. Sinning and confessing
when it is clear you will continue to sin shows us only that you are
corrupt.
Mike Painter
Jun 1, 2012, 1:12:51 AM6/1/12
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Either Christ was a man and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story.
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:05:08 AM6/1/12
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duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:07:08 AM6/1/12
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lives?
> The problem with
>the Day of Atonement is that it was like a Get Out of Jail Free Card and
>it contradicts The Sermon on the Mount of Olives. .
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:11:32 AM6/1/12
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But scripture well reveals that the problem is with man, not God.
> Sinning and confessing
>when it is clear you will continue to sin shows us only that you are
>corrupt.
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:12:28 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 22:12:51 -0700, Mike Painter <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Scripture says **JESUS** never sinned even though he was as fully human as we
are..
wrote:
are..
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:18:19 AM6/1/12
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Heeheehee.
> Also, I do
>not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
>requested.
> However, such should be performed in private upon request by
>adult females who enjoy the procedure and are forthcoming as to how they
>like to have it done.
females who like such things? .
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 8:25:24 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:02:03 -0700, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
>In article <0pgfs7dupg2dn0829...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
><hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:26:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
>> >>>
>> >>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
>> >
>> >Then that makes 3 of us.
>>
>> Liar:
>>
>> "Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
>> young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
>> parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
>> wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
>> of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
>
>• Please say it ain't so Earl.
True - that I made such a comment re "pinching budding breasts" in a newsgroup
>In article <0pgfs7dupg2dn0829...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
><hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 07:26:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> You just can't help be sucked in by stinky, rl. You and he are buddies.
>> >>>
>> >>• We see eye-to-eye on the evil of child diddling/tweaking.
>> >
>> >Then that makes 3 of us.
>>
>> Liar:
>>
>> "Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
>> young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
>> parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
>> wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
>> of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
>
>• Please say it ain't so Earl.
discussion about double standards.
False - about "how many male parents".
False - the part about touching young son's genitals is stinky's fantasy.
>> "only a fool fails to understand that a lot of fathers
>> teasingly pinch their daughters and mothers teasingly touch
>> their sons. It's called child molestation outside the
>> family unit." - duke (Earl J Weber)
>>
>> "I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching
>> nipples (pre breast type) and comparing how that's quite
>> alright in a family setting but clearly and quickly labeled
>> as child molestation outside the family setting."
>> - duke (Earl J Weber)
>>
>> "As I've stated before, the comment is from a ng discussion
>> addressing a double standard - what is considered "ok" in
>> the family setting quickly becomes molestation by an outsider.
>> You can see that in the comment itself." - duke (Earl J Weber)
what he made up.
Patrick
Jun 1, 2012, 9:12:28 AM6/1/12
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"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
Makes them look exactly like they are.....
> The bible says all men sin.
> Either Christ was a man and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story.
I love it when dorks make crap up about the Bible.
> Either Christ was a man and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story.
Makes them look exactly like they are.....
•R.Measures
Jun 1, 2012, 12:24:58 PM6/1/12
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In article <eubhs75ibsmd09pp1...@4ax.com>, duke
• thanks to trials of pedo/ephebo priests, we know the privacy part is
imagined.
imagined.
Alan Ferris
Jun 1, 2012, 1:00:14 PM6/1/12
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:07:08 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>• The trouble with pre-rabbinical Judaism is that it borrowed way too
>>damn too much stupid pagan bullshit from the neighbors.
>
>What pagan groups from before the Jews had a day of confession for their past
>lives?
How many past lives have you had? I thought the Catholic church did
>>• The trouble with pre-rabbinical Judaism is that it borrowed way too
>>damn too much stupid pagan bullshit from the neighbors.
>
>What pagan groups from before the Jews had a day of confession for their past
>lives?
not accept previous lives and that you only had one life.
"When I, duke, signed on here a few years ago, I (also) did
conduct a webcrawler search and found every detail about
amban that I reference shown is my prior posts."
- duke (Earl J Weber) defending stalking a survivor of abuse children
Alan Ferris
Jun 1, 2012, 1:01:05 PM6/1/12
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:12:28 -0400, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
wrote:
Indeed, makes them look like Catholics:
---------------
"God never changes his mind."- duke (Earl J Weber)
Exodus 32:14 "So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He
said He would do to His people,"
----------------
"Dummy, the Jews didn't have chickens then." - duke (Earl Webber)
Luke 13:34 "...as a hen gathers her brood under her wings..."
---------------
"And God said that no one has ever seen him." - duke (Earl Webber)
Exodus 24:10 "...and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet
there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire...”
---------------
"no one had a job, so no money." - duke (Earl Webber)
Matthew 22:19 "Show me the coin used for paying the tax..."
---------------
"The only religion preceding Christianity was Judaism" - duke (Earl
Webber)
1 Kings 22:53 "For he served Baal, and worshipped him"
--------------
wrote:
---------------
"God never changes his mind."- duke (Earl J Weber)
Exodus 32:14 "So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He
said He would do to His people,"
----------------
"Dummy, the Jews didn't have chickens then." - duke (Earl Webber)
Luke 13:34 "...as a hen gathers her brood under her wings..."
---------------
"And God said that no one has ever seen him." - duke (Earl Webber)
Exodus 24:10 "...and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet
there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire...”
---------------
"no one had a job, so no money." - duke (Earl Webber)
Matthew 22:19 "Show me the coin used for paying the tax..."
---------------
"The only religion preceding Christianity was Judaism" - duke (Earl
Webber)
1 Kings 22:53 "For he served Baal, and worshipped him"
--------------
Alan Ferris
Jun 1, 2012, 1:05:41 PM6/1/12
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word.
When are you going to realise that abusing children is WRONG.
-----------
"Earl:No Catholic has told me I'm wrong.
Bullshit, Earl and you know it. At the very least Scoutlady and I
have both said that you're scum, and those are only the people I can
think of off the top of my head."
- Catholic view of duke (Earl J Weber)
-------------
Alan Ferris
Jun 1, 2012, 1:23:24 PM6/1/12
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:18:19 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Also, I do
>>not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
>>requested.
>
>Well, that makes 2 of us. I can't speak for stinky. He's your friend.
Liar, you own words condemn you:
>> Also, I do
>>not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
>>requested.
>
>Well, that makes 2 of us. I can't speak for stinky. He's your friend.
"Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
of sexual molestation of children." - duke (Earl J Weber)
"only a fool fails to understand that a lot of fathers
teasingly pinch their daughters and mothers teasingly touch
their sons. It's called child molestation outside the
family unit." - duke (Earl J Weber)
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching
nipples (pre breast type) and comparing how that's quite
alright in a family setting but clearly and quickly labeled
as child molestation outside the family setting."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
"As I've stated before, the comment is from a ng discussion
addressing a double standard - what is considered "ok" in
the family setting quickly becomes molestation by an outsider.
You can see that in the comment itself." - duke (Earl J Weber)
--
Ferrit
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
Patrick
Jun 1, 2012, 2:37:43 PM6/1/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote/
>> >> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
>> >>
>> >> duke - American American
>> >>
>> > ?? Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been
>> > invented.
>>
>> John 20:23.........
>> New International Version (©1984)
>> If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
>> them, they are not forgiven."
>> New Living Translation (©2007)
>> If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive
>> them,
>> they are not forgiven."
>
> ** which backs up The Sermon on the Mount of Olives -- i.e., forgiveness
> of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
> clever tool used by the Church of Scientology® and other cults to control
> subscribers.
Sermon on the Mount of Olives?
I haven't heard it mentioned like that in years.
We usually refer to the sermon on the mount.
And... as for the church of scientology, do they have confessionals?
>> >> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
>> >>
>> >> duke - American American
>> >>
>> > ?? Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been
>> > invented.
>>
>> John 20:23.........
>> New International Version (©1984)
>> If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
>> them, they are not forgiven."
>> New Living Translation (©2007)
>> If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive
>> them,
>> they are not forgiven."
>
> ** which backs up The Sermon on the Mount of Olives -- i.e., forgiveness
> of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
> clever tool used by the Church of Scientology® and other cults to control
> subscribers.
I haven't heard it mentioned like that in years.
We usually refer to the sermon on the mount.
And... as for the church of scientology, do they have confessionals?
Mike Painter
Jun 1, 2012, 3:35:06 PM6/1/12
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It shows he is not smart enough to actually find out.
1 Kings 8:46There is no man that sinneth not.
2 Chronicles 6:36There is no man which sinneth not.
Proverbs 20:9Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my
sin.
Ecclesiastes 7:20For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth
good, and sinneth not.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. 1
John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
truth is not in us.
1 John 1:10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
his word is not in us.
Mike Painter
Jun 1, 2012, 3:35:46 PM6/1/12
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Free Lunch
Jun 1, 2012, 3:54:19 PM6/1/12
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:11:32 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
I'll believe that claim when God makes it.
Dino
Jun 1, 2012, 4:40:43 PM6/1/12
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On May 25, 8:20 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Priest Pleads Guilty to Child Exploitation Charges
> May 24 2012
>
> PITTSBURGH—A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> David J Hickton announced today.
>
> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> In connection with the guilty plea, the court was
> advised that Sorensen, a priest at St. John Fisher
> Church in Churchill, received and possessed many
> images of minors being sexually abused between
> June 2011 and December 9, 2011.
>
> “This case is particularly disturbing because it
> involves a priest, a man in a position of great trust,
> viewing horrific and degrading images of children,”
> United States Attorney Hickton said. "Consumers of
> these violent sexual images fuel the production of
> more images, and the demand for increasingly extreme
> content. This is not a ‘victimless’ crime."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7w4eoen
He deserves to be judged and convicted properly. In fact, because of
his
position of trust, they hold him at a higher standard. There simply
is
no excuse.
> Priest Pleads Guilty to Child Exploitation Charges
> May 24 2012
>
> PITTSBURGH—A Roman Catholic priest pleaded guilty in
> federal court to charges of violating federal child
> sexual exploitation laws, United States Attorney
> David J Hickton announced today.
>
> Bartley Sorensen, 63, pleaded guilty before United
> States District Judge Alan N Bloch to receiving and
> possessing visual depictions of minors engaged in
> sexually explicit conduct.
>
> In connection with the guilty plea, the court was
> advised that Sorensen, a priest at St. John Fisher
> Church in Churchill, received and possessed many
> images of minors being sexually abused between
> June 2011 and December 9, 2011.
>
> “This case is particularly disturbing because it
> involves a priest, a man in a position of great trust,
> viewing horrific and degrading images of children,”
> United States Attorney Hickton said. "Consumers of
> these violent sexual images fuel the production of
> more images, and the demand for increasingly extreme
> content. This is not a ‘victimless’ crime."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7w4eoen
He deserves to be judged and convicted properly. In fact, because of
his
position of trust, they hold him at a higher standard. There simply
is
no excuse.
Patrick
Jun 1, 2012, 6:38:03 PM6/1/12
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"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message ..
> On 6/1/2012 6:12 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> "Mike Painter"<md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>>> The bible says all men sin.
>>> Either Christ was a man and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story.
>>
>> I love it when dorks make crap up about the Bible.
>> Makes them look exactly like they are.....
>>
>>
> I love it when Patty makes statements like this.
> It shows he is not smart enough to actually find out.
>
> 1 Kings 8:46There is no man that sinneth not.
What about your whine that: Either Christ was a man
>> "Mike Painter"<md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>>> The bible says all men sin.
>>> Either Christ was a man and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story.
>>
>> I love it when dorks make crap up about the Bible.
>> Makes them look exactly like they are.....
>>
>>
> I love it when Patty makes statements like this.
> It shows he is not smart enough to actually find out.
>
> 1 Kings 8:46There is no man that sinneth not.
and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story
> 2 Chronicles 6:36There is no man which sinneth not.
What about your whine that: Either Christ was a man
and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story
> Proverbs 20:9Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my
> sin.
> Ecclesiastes 7:20For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good,
> and sinneth not.
What about your whine that: Either Christ was a man
> sin.
> Ecclesiastes 7:20For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good,
> and sinneth not.
and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story
> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. 1
> John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
> truth is not in us.
> 1 John 1:10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his
> word is not in us.
What about your whine that: Either Christ was a man
> John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
> truth is not in us.
> 1 John 1:10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his
> word is not in us.
and sinned a god and did not sin, or a story
Where is that in the bible?
Patrick
Jun 1, 2012, 6:46:15 PM6/1/12
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"Dino" <what...@homemail.com> wrote in message
news:1e22897f-9a66-427b...@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
-----------
Let us not forget that this priest was arrested in 2011
after his own church employee turned him in.
Fr. Bartley Sorensen was arrested in December 2011 after investigators say
an employee at the church where he was assigned allegedly saw him watching
child pornography. Officials say it was that employee at St. John Fisher
Parish in Churchill that alerted authorities who then seized CDs, DVDs and
books and determined he possessed a lot of child pornography for a long time
news:1e22897f-9a66-427b...@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
Let us not forget that this priest was arrested in 2011
after his own church employee turned him in.
Fr. Bartley Sorensen was arrested in December 2011 after investigators say
an employee at the church where he was assigned allegedly saw him watching
child pornography. Officials say it was that employee at St. John Fisher
Parish in Churchill that alerted authorities who then seized CDs, DVDs and
books and determined he possessed a lot of child pornography for a long time
•R.Measures
Jun 1, 2012, 11:05:17 PM6/1/12
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In article <n3chs79ht8bht142j...@4ax.com>, duke
from God....
• "Take it as a rule, the nearer a nation dwells to the Roman Curia, the
less religion it has." -- Niccolò Machiavelli (1469-1527)
• "Take it as a rule, the nearer a nation dwells to the Roman Curia, the
less religion it has." -- Niccolò Machiavelli (1469-1527)
•R.Measures
Jun 1, 2012, 11:08:33 PM6/1/12
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In article <vhchs7d04mtsvv9qp...@4ax.com>, duke
• Which D.A. ?
> I can't speak for stinky. He's your friend.
>
> > However, such should be performed in private upon request by
> >adult females who enjoy the procedure and are forthcoming as to how they
> >like to have it done.
>
> So you believe it's still ok with minor females as long as requested by adult
> females who like such things? .
>
• Try reading it again Duke.
>
> > Also, I do
> >not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
> >requested.
>
> Well, that makes 2 of us.
• You've changed your mind?
> > Also, I do
> >not feel it is ethical to tweak the nipples of minor females - even if
> >requested.
>
> Well, that makes 2 of us.
> I can't speak for stinky. He's your friend.
>
> > However, such should be performed in private upon request by
> >adult females who enjoy the procedure and are forthcoming as to how they
> >like to have it done.
>
> So you believe it's still ok with minor females as long as requested by adult
> females who like such things? .
>
•R.Measures
Jun 1, 2012, 11:11:51 PM6/1/12
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In article <kochs7t9kmqgbcm4i...@4ax.com>, duke
• "The lady doeth protest too much methinks."
Hamlet, Act 3, scene 2,
Hamlet, Act 3, scene 2,
•R.Measures
Jun 1, 2012, 11:20:50 PM6/1/12
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In article <RcidnTpOhYVkllTS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"
> We usually refer to the sermon on the mount.
> And... as for the church of scientology, do they have confessionals?
** The CoS calls it Security Checking. It's done in a room with
concealed video cameras. When you hear a celebrity endorsement of
Scientology, it's the result of a threat to spill the beans. There's one
born every minute.
<bark...@erinot.com> wrote:
> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote/
>
> >> >> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
> >> >>
> >> >> duke - American American
> >> >>
> >> > ?? Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been
> >> > invented.
> >>
> >> John 20:23.........
> >> New International Version (©1984)
> >> If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
> >> them, they are not forgiven."
> >> New Living Translation (©2007)
> >> If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive
> >> them,
> >> they are not forgiven."
> >
> > ** which backs up The Sermon on the Mount of Olives -- i.e., forgiveness
> > of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
> > clever tool used by the Church of Scientology® and other cults to control
> > subscribers.
>
> Sermon on the Mount of Olives?
> I haven't heard it mentioned like that in years.
** there lots of hills in Judea.
> ".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote/
>
> >> >> The Pope goes to confession weekly.
> >> >>
> >> >> duke - American American
> >> >>
> >> > ?? Before 1215CE popes didn't because Confession had not yet been
> >> > invented.
> >>
> >> John 20:23.........
> >> New International Version (©1984)
> >> If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive
> >> them, they are not forgiven."
> >> New Living Translation (©2007)
> >> If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive
> >> them,
> >> they are not forgiven."
> >
> > ** which backs up The Sermon on the Mount of Olives -- i.e., forgiveness
> > of sin is not likely to happen in a Confessional. The confession is a
> > clever tool used by the Church of Scientology® and other cults to control
> > subscribers.
>
> Sermon on the Mount of Olives?
> I haven't heard it mentioned like that in years.
> We usually refer to the sermon on the mount.
> And... as for the church of scientology, do they have confessionals?
concealed video cameras. When you hear a celebrity endorsement of
Scientology, it's the result of a threat to spill the beans. There's one
born every minute.
duke
Jun 2, 2012, 8:41:32 AM6/2/12
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duke
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