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J
Sep 24, 2012, 1:23:51 PM9/24/12
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Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
murder of numerous children.
Used in the fifth and sixth months of pregnancy, and sometimes later.
Guided by the ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs
the unborn baby�s leg with forceps, and pulls the baby into the birth
canal, except for the head, which is deliberately kept just inside the
womb. (At this point in the abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the
abortionist punctures the base of the baby�s skull with long surgical
scissors or other instrument. He enlarges the wound and inserts a
catheter (tube), which is connected to a powerful suction machine that
sucks the baby�s brain out. The abortionist then withdraws the
now-collapsed skull from the uterus.
--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
http://www.americandecency.org/
Mike Painter
Sep 24, 2012, 3:20:53 PM9/24/12
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:23:51 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
>on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
>this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
>prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
>murder of numerous children.
>
Tiller was murdered.
>
>
>
>Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
>on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
>this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
>prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
>murder of numerous children.
>
And as usual J tells a half truth.
In accordance with Kansas state law Tiller performed late-term
abortions, which helped to make him a focal point for anti-abortion
protest and violence. Tiller treated patients who discovered late in
pregnancy that their fetuses had severe or fatal birth defects. He
also aborted healthy late-term fetuses, in cases where two doctors
certified that carrying the fetus to term would cause the woman
"substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function"
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 24, 2012, 3:45:41 PM9/24/12
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Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Dakota
Sep 24, 2012, 4:47:50 PM9/24/12
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On 9/24/2012 2:20 PM, Mike Painter wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:23:51 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
>> on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
>> this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
>> prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
>> murder of numerous children.
>>
> Tiller was murdered.
>
By someone who claimed to be pro-life.
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:23:51 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
>> on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
>> this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
>> prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
>> murder of numerous children.
>>
> Tiller was murdered.
>
elizabeth
Sep 24, 2012, 5:58:46 PM9/24/12
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On Sep 24, 12:21 pm, Mike Painter <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
And even though he was harrassed by insane prosecutors caving in to
the yapping of the rabid antiabortniks, he was never convicted of
anything .. .. it was clearly malicious prosecution.
Antiabortniks are as crazy as those moslems blowing things up and
murdering people because they didn't like some cheap video on youtube.
the yapping of the rabid antiabortniks, he was never convicted of
anything .. .. it was clearly malicious prosecution.
Antiabortniks are as crazy as those moslems blowing things up and
murdering people because they didn't like some cheap video on youtube.
W.T.S.
Sep 24, 2012, 8:11:30 PM9/24/12
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In article <5vmqgc....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>
<snip> The usual stream of lying bull shit, no need to repost. </snip>
>
Summary: Most abortions are performed in the first trimester. Late
term abortions, DNC, and so on (partial-birth abortion is a political
term, not a medical term)are performed to save the life of the Mother,
to prevent severe injury to the Mother, such as sterility, when the
fetus has already died, when the fetus is deformed to the point of being
nonviable, when the fetus would have a very, very, low quality of life.
In other words, "J" and his friends just keep right on lying. I can
describe operations a lot more gross than a DNC, but "J" and friends are
all in favor of those. End of story.
>
For the truth, see these links:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
<snip> The usual stream of lying bull shit, no need to repost. </snip>
>
Summary: Most abortions are performed in the first trimester. Late
term abortions, DNC, and so on (partial-birth abortion is a political
term, not a medical term)are performed to save the life of the Mother,
to prevent severe injury to the Mother, such as sterility, when the
fetus has already died, when the fetus is deformed to the point of being
nonviable, when the fetus would have a very, very, low quality of life.
In other words, "J" and his friends just keep right on lying. I can
describe operations a lot more gross than a DNC, but "J" and friends are
all in favor of those. End of story.
>
For the truth, see these links:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
duke
Sep 25, 2012, 6:27:01 AM9/25/12
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:45:41 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
Lesbians don't get abortions.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************
wrote:
>Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************
linuxgal
Sep 25, 2012, 7:23:17 AM9/25/12
to
duke wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:45:41 -0700, Jeanne Douglas<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
>
They do after they get raped by assholes who think all they need is a
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:45:41 -0700, Jeanne Douglas<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
>
good fuck to be normalized.
W.T.S.
Sep 25, 2012, 10:58:38 AM9/25/12
to
In article <5n1368lhrifcrrbnj...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
For the truth, follow the links below:
@cox.net says...
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:45:41 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
And no baby is involved in any abortion.
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:45:41 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
>
For the truth, follow the links below:
Patrick
Sep 25, 2012, 11:30:30 AM9/25/12
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote
By Olivia Gans and Mary Spaulding Balch, J.D.
The underlying premise to the many arguments that fall within this
category - - that "a woman has a right to control her own body" - - is that
it would be unfair to the mother to "force" her to carry her unborn child to
term. Therefore, it should be her decision alone to decide whether her
unborn child lives or dies.
The argument unfolds in roughly this fashion. It would be "unjust" to
require the mother to carry her baby to term because it would require her to
quit school, abandon her career, suffer for the rest of her life never
knowing where her child was if she placed the child for adoption, or face
the stigma of "unwed" motherhood, or an endless number of other scenarios.
Beyond this basic contention, proponents further claim that the mother has
the "right" to privacy, the "right" to choose, and the "right" to equal
protection, all of which require a "right" to abortion.
The right to privacy, continues the argument, protects the woman's ability
to make personal decisions in private, without the imposition of "Big
Brother."
This mode of argument culminates with the conclusion that it is this
"freedom of choice" that enables a woman to compete equally with a man.
CONTROLLING ASSUMPTIONS
What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
that some women accept this specious reasoning and actually fight to keep
the ability to legally kill their unborn child as a claimed "right"!
What is the rhetorical ploy at work here? Abortion supporters compare
unfavorably the life of one human being (the unborn child) with the "right"
to live without the temporary condition of nine months of pregnancy. The
result is that the temporary condition and its inconveniences trumps the
child's very right to exist.
When you reach this point, remind your listeners that this way of reasoning
threatens everyone's right to life. Determining who shall live and who shall
die has become completely arbitrary.
Let's look more closely at the argument that "a woman has the right to
control her own body."
Certainly she has the right to control the use of her arm by choosing to
swing her arm. However, that right stops when her arm approaches the tip of
my nose.
She may even have the right to scream at the top of her lungs that she hates
the movie Titanic, but she doesn't have the right to scream "fire" in the
crowded theater. Reason and historic experience teaches us that unless we
protect the rights of others, our own rights soon diminish as well.
Note also that, as is so often the case, abortion supporters have simply
defined the unborn out of existence. Or, more specifically, they contend
nobody can know "when human life begins."
An essential part of your response to this family of argument is to remind
your audience that it is not a mere opinion that two bodies are involved in
this decision but a scientific fact. It is important to understand that a
surprising number of people have convinced themselves that the unborn child
is not a separate human being, meaning the entire focus is on the mother.
Shorn of its individual existence, the child is reduced to a "problem" to be
eliminated. What is your counter?
Remind your audience that the unborn child is the smallest, least seen among
us, and thus, is the most vulnerable. Buttress your appeal to our common
humanity with some of the elementary points of embryology. This little human
being has a beating heart as early as 18 days, with tiny little fingers and
toes.
All her genetic definition of who she is for now and always - - the color of
her eyes, her hair, how tall she will grow to be - - was present at the
moment of fertilization. Therefore, in every abortion a helpless someone
dies.
Answering this argument also allows the pro-lifer to bring attention to the
least understood facet of the abortion debate: that most women feel trapped
into their abortions. This is a great opportunity to point out that women
usually make their decision with little or no accurate information about
their pregnancy or knowledge that assistance is available for them from the
over 3,000 pro-life mother-helping centers around the country.
We must help people to grasp that women aren't really in control of anything
if they do not have the right to know the whole truth before they have an
abortion. Point out that anyone who supports "choice" surely should support
an informed choice in this context as well.
Yet, attempts to pass protective legislation insuring that women are given
information about risks and alternatives to abortion and scientifically
accurate information about the developing unborn child are routinely opposed
and challenged by abortion advocates. Only a handful of states have
recognized the right of women to be fully informed. There is a real insult
to women's intelligence in that fact.
As women we believe that perhaps the greatest crime committed against women
by the legalization of abortion is the ugly idea that our ability to bear
children is a punishment or a failure on our part. That notion has sent a
message to three generations of women that they must - - at all costs - -
reject their own children if they are going to avert failure.
Women have to stop apologizing for the fact that they bear children. Gently
but firmly emphasize that, ironically, as long as women give into the
expectation that they ought to kill their children in order to get further
in this world (that is, compete equally with men), they really are
"second-class" citizens.
A major element in much of the rhetoric that is used within this particular
category of arguments is the tragic notion that the unborn child is an enemy
of her mother. Mother and child are pitted against each other.
We must help our questioners to realize that mother and child are not
antagonists but equals who must both be protected by law.
The only reasonable perspective is that every human being's life must be
protected from the moment of fertilization until natural death. It cannot be
subject to the arbitrary whims of others, or soon each of us will find
ourselves or our loved ones being defined out of existence.
Finally, the constant rallying cry attendant to this "women must control
their own bodies" argument is the clever but evasive rejoinder, "Who
decides?" You can point out that the more appropriate question is, "Who
dies?"
Since every abortion does in fact stop a beating heart it is absolutely
essential that a just government pass laws to respect the right to life.
Slogans like "Keep your laws off my ovaries" are simply a distraction from
the power of the truth about the unborn's life. Our elected officials are
bound on our behalf to ensure that protection is provided every human being.
Ultimately the only way to actually protect the mother's rights will be by
enforcing laws that secure her child's right to life.
*This article originally appeared in February 11, 1998 NRL News
Printed with permission from National Right to Life (www.nrlc.org ).
> Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> women and men alike!
It's my body/ a women's choice
> women and men alike!
By Olivia Gans and Mary Spaulding Balch, J.D.
The underlying premise to the many arguments that fall within this
category - - that "a woman has a right to control her own body" - - is that
it would be unfair to the mother to "force" her to carry her unborn child to
term. Therefore, it should be her decision alone to decide whether her
unborn child lives or dies.
The argument unfolds in roughly this fashion. It would be "unjust" to
require the mother to carry her baby to term because it would require her to
quit school, abandon her career, suffer for the rest of her life never
knowing where her child was if she placed the child for adoption, or face
the stigma of "unwed" motherhood, or an endless number of other scenarios.
Beyond this basic contention, proponents further claim that the mother has
the "right" to privacy, the "right" to choose, and the "right" to equal
protection, all of which require a "right" to abortion.
The right to privacy, continues the argument, protects the woman's ability
to make personal decisions in private, without the imposition of "Big
Brother."
This mode of argument culminates with the conclusion that it is this
"freedom of choice" that enables a woman to compete equally with a man.
CONTROLLING ASSUMPTIONS
What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
that some women accept this specious reasoning and actually fight to keep
the ability to legally kill their unborn child as a claimed "right"!
What is the rhetorical ploy at work here? Abortion supporters compare
unfavorably the life of one human being (the unborn child) with the "right"
to live without the temporary condition of nine months of pregnancy. The
result is that the temporary condition and its inconveniences trumps the
child's very right to exist.
When you reach this point, remind your listeners that this way of reasoning
threatens everyone's right to life. Determining who shall live and who shall
die has become completely arbitrary.
Let's look more closely at the argument that "a woman has the right to
control her own body."
Certainly she has the right to control the use of her arm by choosing to
swing her arm. However, that right stops when her arm approaches the tip of
my nose.
She may even have the right to scream at the top of her lungs that she hates
the movie Titanic, but she doesn't have the right to scream "fire" in the
crowded theater. Reason and historic experience teaches us that unless we
protect the rights of others, our own rights soon diminish as well.
Note also that, as is so often the case, abortion supporters have simply
defined the unborn out of existence. Or, more specifically, they contend
nobody can know "when human life begins."
An essential part of your response to this family of argument is to remind
your audience that it is not a mere opinion that two bodies are involved in
this decision but a scientific fact. It is important to understand that a
surprising number of people have convinced themselves that the unborn child
is not a separate human being, meaning the entire focus is on the mother.
Shorn of its individual existence, the child is reduced to a "problem" to be
eliminated. What is your counter?
Remind your audience that the unborn child is the smallest, least seen among
us, and thus, is the most vulnerable. Buttress your appeal to our common
humanity with some of the elementary points of embryology. This little human
being has a beating heart as early as 18 days, with tiny little fingers and
toes.
All her genetic definition of who she is for now and always - - the color of
her eyes, her hair, how tall she will grow to be - - was present at the
moment of fertilization. Therefore, in every abortion a helpless someone
dies.
Answering this argument also allows the pro-lifer to bring attention to the
least understood facet of the abortion debate: that most women feel trapped
into their abortions. This is a great opportunity to point out that women
usually make their decision with little or no accurate information about
their pregnancy or knowledge that assistance is available for them from the
over 3,000 pro-life mother-helping centers around the country.
We must help people to grasp that women aren't really in control of anything
if they do not have the right to know the whole truth before they have an
abortion. Point out that anyone who supports "choice" surely should support
an informed choice in this context as well.
Yet, attempts to pass protective legislation insuring that women are given
information about risks and alternatives to abortion and scientifically
accurate information about the developing unborn child are routinely opposed
and challenged by abortion advocates. Only a handful of states have
recognized the right of women to be fully informed. There is a real insult
to women's intelligence in that fact.
As women we believe that perhaps the greatest crime committed against women
by the legalization of abortion is the ugly idea that our ability to bear
children is a punishment or a failure on our part. That notion has sent a
message to three generations of women that they must - - at all costs - -
reject their own children if they are going to avert failure.
Women have to stop apologizing for the fact that they bear children. Gently
but firmly emphasize that, ironically, as long as women give into the
expectation that they ought to kill their children in order to get further
in this world (that is, compete equally with men), they really are
"second-class" citizens.
A major element in much of the rhetoric that is used within this particular
category of arguments is the tragic notion that the unborn child is an enemy
of her mother. Mother and child are pitted against each other.
We must help our questioners to realize that mother and child are not
antagonists but equals who must both be protected by law.
The only reasonable perspective is that every human being's life must be
protected from the moment of fertilization until natural death. It cannot be
subject to the arbitrary whims of others, or soon each of us will find
ourselves or our loved ones being defined out of existence.
Finally, the constant rallying cry attendant to this "women must control
their own bodies" argument is the clever but evasive rejoinder, "Who
decides?" You can point out that the more appropriate question is, "Who
dies?"
Since every abortion does in fact stop a beating heart it is absolutely
essential that a just government pass laws to respect the right to life.
Slogans like "Keep your laws off my ovaries" are simply a distraction from
the power of the truth about the unborn's life. Our elected officials are
bound on our behalf to ensure that protection is provided every human being.
Ultimately the only way to actually protect the mother's rights will be by
enforcing laws that secure her child's right to life.
*This article originally appeared in February 11, 1998 NRL News
Printed with permission from National Right to Life (www.nrlc.org ).
Kenny McCormack
Sep 25, 2012, 11:44:20 AM9/25/12
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In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
...
End of story.
--
People who say they'll vote for someone else because Obama couldn't solve
all of Bush's messes are like people complaining that he couldn't cure cancer,
so they'll go and vote for cancer.
...
>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
End of story.
--
People who say they'll vote for someone else because Obama couldn't solve
all of Bush's messes are like people complaining that he couldn't cure cancer,
so they'll go and vote for cancer.
m...@privacy.net
Sep 25, 2012, 7:02:07 PM9/25/12
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:27:01 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
You're an ignorant person.
> >Since there's no such thing, no need to read at all.
>
> Lesbians don't get abortions.
The Echo Chamber
Sep 25, 2012, 9:18:44 PM9/25/12
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W.T.S.
Sep 25, 2012, 10:02:08 PM9/25/12
to
In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
to repost? </snip>
>
Summary: Patrick and his forced birther friends are a bunch of lying
filth, so what else is new?
>
For the real truth, follow the links below:
>
> "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> > women and men alike!
>
<snip> Pure, lying bull shit from pro-liar loons and idiots, why bother
> "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> > women and men alike!
>
to repost? </snip>
>
Summary: Patrick and his forced birther friends are a bunch of lying
filth, so what else is new?
>
For the real truth, follow the links below:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
duke
Sep 26, 2012, 7:33:25 AM9/26/12
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duke
Sep 26, 2012, 7:33:00 AM9/26/12
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duke
Sep 26, 2012, 7:34:17 AM9/26/12
to
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>...
>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>
>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
McCormack) wrote:
>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>...
>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>
>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
Free Lunch
Sep 26, 2012, 6:39:05 PM9/26/12
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:34:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:
>On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>McCormack) wrote:
>
>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>>...
>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>>
>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
>
>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
Political pandering by gutless prosecutors and legislators who love to
claim they are tough on crime.
alt.atheism:
>On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>McCormack) wrote:
>
>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>>...
>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>>
>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
>
>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
claim they are tough on crime.
SkyEyes
Sep 27, 2012, 3:52:26 AM9/27/12
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On Sep 24, 10:23 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
> on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
> this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
> prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
> murder of numerous children.
Actually, Tiller's patients were women who wanted their babies, but
> Congress banned this procedure and the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the ban
> on 4/18/07. That didn't stop sadists like George Tiller from continuing
> this vicious practice. Had he not died in 2009, Tiller would have been
> prosecuted, convicted, and most likely sentenced to death for the cruel
> murder of numerous children.
whose fetuses had been found to be either dead, or so grossly
malformed or sick that they had no chance at life outside the womb.
>
> Used in the fifth and sixth months of pregnancy, and sometimes later.
That's when many of thiese gross abnormalities show up, numbnuts.
> Used in the fifth and sixth months of pregnancy, and sometimes later.
>
> Guided by the ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs
> the unborn baby’s leg with forceps, and pulls the baby into the birth
> Guided by the ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs
> canal, except for the head, which is deliberately kept just inside the
> womb. (At this point in the abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the
> abortionist punctures the base of the baby’s skull with long surgical
> womb. (At this point in the abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the
> scissors or other instrument. He enlarges the wound and inserts a
> catheter (tube), which is connected to a powerful suction machine that
> sucks the baby’s brain out. The abortionist then withdraws the
> catheter (tube), which is connected to a powerful suction machine that
> now-collapsed skull from the uterus.
Tragic that this has to happen, but if you're a woman in the situation
of having a dead/grossly malformed or nonviable fetus, you have to go
through it. And it should remain a PRIVATE MATTER between the woman
and her doctor.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
SkyEyes
Sep 27, 2012, 3:55:55 AM9/27/12
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On Sep 25, 8:30 am, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote
None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
*any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
don't.
> "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote
*any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
don't.
Patrick
Sep 27, 2012, 6:09:22 AM9/27/12
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"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
*any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
don't.
+ Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
good.
It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
my own behavior.
None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
*any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
don't.
merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
good.
It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
my own behavior.
Patrick
Sep 27, 2012, 6:18:33 AM9/27/12
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"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
Tragic that this has to happen, but if you're a woman in the situation
of having a dead/grossly malformed or nonviable fetus, you have to go
through it. And it should remain a PRIVATE MATTER between the woman
and her doctor.
+ Most people will agree with you.
+ However, when an abortion for the convenience of the mother
becomes a "healthcare" procedure that the public is forced to
pay for, some of us get a little pissed off.
Tragic that this has to happen, but if you're a woman in the situation
of having a dead/grossly malformed or nonviable fetus, you have to go
through it. And it should remain a PRIVATE MATTER between the woman
and her doctor.
+ However, when an abortion for the convenience of the mother
becomes a "healthcare" procedure that the public is forced to
pay for, some of us get a little pissed off.
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 27, 2012, 7:49:41 AM9/27/12
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In article <ZJV8s.18185$0P3...@fed11.iad>,
The public can't pay for abortions, since it's illegal.
There goes that argument.
There goes that argument.
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 27, 2012, 7:50:24 AM9/27/12
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In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
wrote:
And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
wrote:
duke
Sep 27, 2012, 8:11:12 AM9/27/12
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That would like you being charged for looking at a tree.
Patrick
Sep 27, 2012, 11:47:45 AM9/27/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-446829...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
Syd M.
Sep 27, 2012, 11:59:52 AM9/27/12
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On Sep 27, 8:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:39:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:34:17 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:39:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >alt.atheism:
>
> >>On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
> >>McCormack) wrote:
>
> >>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4....@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >>>...
> >>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
> >>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
> >>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>
> >>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
>
> >>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
>
> >Political pandering by gutless prosecutors and legislators who love to
> >claim they are tough on crime.
>
> Nope, it's a legal consideration. If it wasn't, said charges couldn't be filed.
> That would like you being charged for looking at a tree.
>
>
Since the fetus is NOT a person, it can't be called 'murder', lying
> >>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4....@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >>>...
> >>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
> >>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
> >>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible is
>
> >>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
>
> >>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
>
> >Political pandering by gutless prosecutors and legislators who love to
> >claim they are tough on crime.
>
> Nope, it's a legal consideration. If it wasn't, said charges couldn't be filed.
> That would like you being charged for looking at a tree.
>
>
loser.
Deal with it.
Syd M.
Sep 27, 2012, 12:00:17 PM9/27/12
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On Sep 27, 11:47 am, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hlwdjsd2-446829...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hlwdjsd2-446829...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
>
> > And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> Is that an excuse?
Is that an excuse for his hatred?
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
>
> > And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> Is that an excuse?
Patrick
Sep 27, 2012, 12:03:34 PM9/27/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
The Hyde Ammendment has been ignored in thousands of cases.
http://www.geneveith.com/2012/03/14/obamacare-will-cover-abortions-for-1-premiums/
http://www.stopp.org/article.php?id=9069
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 27, 2012, 5:18:59 PM9/27/12
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In article <By_8s.44126$T44...@fed03.iad>,
An excuse for what?
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 27, 2012, 5:19:28 PM9/27/12
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In article <qN_8s.21653$0P3....@fed11.iad>,
That's a lie. Debunked years ago.
Uirgil
Sep 27, 2012, 5:45:24 PM9/27/12
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In article <0hg8685abalagrbag...@4ax.com>,
Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
prosecutors will not enforce them.
What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
prohibition.
Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
a society.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:39:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:34:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> >alt.atheism:
> >
> >>On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
> >>McCormack) wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >>>...
> >>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
> >>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
> >>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible
> >>>>is
> >>>
> >>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
> >>
> >>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
> >
> >Political pandering by gutless prosecutors and legislators who love to
> >claim they are tough on crime.
>
> Nope, it's a legal consideration. If it wasn't, said charges couldn't be
> filed.
> That would like you being charged for looking at a tree.
>
> The dukester
That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:39:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:34:17 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> >alt.atheism:
> >
> >>On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
> >>McCormack) wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <n6k8s.897$Qh4...@fe31.iad>, Patrick <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >>>...
> >>>>What is astonishing about this reasoning is the assumption behind each of
> >>>>these "injustices" - - that the only way a pregnant woman can accomplish
> >>>>anything is for her to kill her baby. What is even more incomprehensible
> >>>>is
> >>>
> >>>No baby has ever been killed in an abortion.
> >>
> >>Then why are 2 murder charges filed when a pregnant woman is murdered?
> >
> >Political pandering by gutless prosecutors and legislators who love to
> >claim they are tough on crime.
>
> Nope, it's a legal consideration. If it wasn't, said charges couldn't be
> filed.
> That would like you being charged for looking at a tree.
>
> The dukester
Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
prosecutors will not enforce them.
What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
prohibition.
Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
a society.
Uirgil
Sep 27, 2012, 5:48:37 PM9/27/12
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The legal ban on all abortions, which prevailed prior to Roe vs Wade,
not only pissed off a lot of people, it managed to kill a lot of them
too.
Uirgil
Sep 27, 2012, 5:54:16 PM9/27/12
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Uirgil
Sep 27, 2012, 5:55:38 PM9/27/12
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for it.
duke
Sep 28, 2012, 6:43:50 AM9/28/12
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>What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
>prohibition.
>Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
>a society.
Patrick
Sep 28, 2012, 10:12:07 AM9/28/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
because of rape?
>> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> >> don't.
>> >>
>> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste
>> >> so
>> >> good.
>> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> >> my own behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> > And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>>
>> Is that an excuse?
>
> Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be further punished
> for it.
Do you have any clue on how many abortions are performed
>> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> >> don't.
>> >>
>> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste
>> >> so
>> >> good.
>> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> >> my own behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> > And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>>
>> Is that an excuse?
>
> Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be further punished
> for it.
because of rape?
Patrick
Sep 28, 2012, 10:13:06 AM9/28/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for it.
Well then, stop punishing them.
> Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for it.
Alan Ferris
Sep 28, 2012, 12:39:05 PM9/28/12
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:09:22 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>+ Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat.
But you are fucking fat.....you are extremely obese. who do you blame for that?
>+ Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat.
The welfare that keeps giving you money:
----
Grotesquely Obese (Earl J Weber):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1385182548
Earl's Obese boyfriend (P Barker):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1339225483
St. Paul said that "their god is the belly " (Phil 3:19)
----
Alan Ferris
Sep 28, 2012, 12:39:28 PM9/28/12
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
And ignoring how fat he is.
wrote:
W.T.S.
Sep 28, 2012, 2:34:42 PM9/28/12
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In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
And the Supreme Court says abortion is legal. Thus, the blessings of
abortion are upon us all. Isn't it wonderful?
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
@cox.net says...
abortion are upon us all. Isn't it wonderful?
>
> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >prohibition.
> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >a society.
> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >prohibition.
> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >a society.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
women and men alike!
>
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
duke
Sep 28, 2012, 4:17:49 PM9/28/12
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
linuxgal
Sep 28, 2012, 5:46:08 PM9/28/12
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duke wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
>>>
>>> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>>> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>>> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>>> don't.
>>>
>>> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>>> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>>> good.
>>> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>>> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>>> my own behavior.
>>
>>
>> And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
If you prefer chocolate cake does that mean you hate ice cream?
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
>>>
>>> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>>> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>>> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>>> don't.
>>>
>>> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>>> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>>> good.
>>> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>>> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>>> my own behavior.
>>
>>
>> And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
--
Because I am an 1337 h4x0r and don't want to use anything that you n00bs
might be able to understand.
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 7:28:39 PM9/28/12
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In article <se1c68ddmri2tf1fj...@4ax.com>,
like being male makes them somehow better than women.
Since there are plenty of good men around who, unlike you, are nowhere
nearly as egomaniacal, she need not hat ALL men, just those like you
whose balls are so small that their egos swell to fill the gap.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
> >>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
> >
> >
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>
As far as I can see, the only men who she dislikes are those who act
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
> >>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
> >
> >
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>
like being male makes them somehow better than women.
Since there are plenty of good men around who, unlike you, are nowhere
nearly as egomaniacal, she need not hat ALL men, just those like you
whose balls are so small that their egos swell to fill the gap.
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 7:31:05 PM9/28/12
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In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.1...@fed06.iad>,
Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
And you are one of those evil men..
bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
And you are one of those evil men..
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 7:33:05 PM9/28/12
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In article <Xei9s.6267$Pf6....@fed16.iad>,
Do you have any clue as to how many women are forced to bear their
rapist's bastards because you oppose abortion for any reason?
Even once is way too often!
rapist's bastards because you oppose abortion for any reason?
Even once is way too often!
Syd M.
Sep 28, 2012, 8:05:57 PM9/28/12
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Syd M.
Sep 28, 2012, 8:06:37 PM9/28/12
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On Sep 28, 4:17 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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>
>
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>
>
> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
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> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
>
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>
>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
>
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>
>
Who cares what you think?
You have not been correct since you got here.
Patrick
Sep 28, 2012, 8:33:34 PM9/28/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
news:uirgil-27C358....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
Shaddup, you fuckin loozer.
If you don't women to be raped, then stop raping them.
Nearly 4 million abortions performed in America each year.
Much less than 1 (one) percent comes from rape.
The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
mother.
You go ahead and worry about the one or two rapes.
The rest of the world will worry about the slutty muthas who hate
their kids.
news:uirgil-27C358....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
If you don't women to be raped, then stop raping them.
Nearly 4 million abortions performed in America each year.
Much less than 1 (one) percent comes from rape.
The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
mother.
You go ahead and worry about the one or two rapes.
The rest of the world will worry about the slutty muthas who hate
their kids.
Patrick
Sep 28, 2012, 8:36:58 PM9/28/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
I will pay for it myself.
However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
Patrick
Sep 28, 2012, 8:37:42 PM9/28/12
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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3ce0e27f-324c-4f88...@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
+ I don't hate women.
I hate sluts who demand that I pay for their sins.
news:3ce0e27f-324c-4f88...@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
I hate sluts who demand that I pay for their sins.
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 28, 2012, 8:43:24 PM9/28/12
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In article <Kor9s.15$6d3...@fed08.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
wrote:
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.1...@fed06.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >>
> >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> >> > it.
> >>
> >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> Who denies this?
> I will pay for it myself.
> However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
> I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
> it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.1...@fed06.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >>
> >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> >> > it.
> >>
> >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> Who denies this?
> I will pay for it myself.
> However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
> I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
> it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 9:16:34 PM9/28/12
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In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
****************************************************
* A vote for Romney is a vote for the end of *
* democracy in America as we know it. Let the *
* rolling thunder guide your decision at the *
* ballot box to put an end to Imperial Romney. *
* Don't Vote to Destroy Democracy. *
* Back Obama! *
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>
> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>
> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >prohibition.
> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >a society.
Bad law causes anarchy!
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>
> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>
> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >prohibition.
> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >a society.
And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
****************************************************
* A vote for Romney is a vote for the end of *
* democracy in America as we know it. Let the *
* rolling thunder guide your decision at the *
* ballot box to put an end to Imperial Romney. *
* Don't Vote to Destroy Democracy. *
* Back Obama! *
****************************************************
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 9:23:40 PM9/28/12
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In article <qpr9s.5940$BP7....@fed10.iad>,
It is those sluts who demand that you pay them for YOUR sins that keep
you broke. Do you hate them as much?
you broke. Do you hate them as much?
Uirgil
Sep 28, 2012, 9:35:39 PM9/28/12
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In article <ylr9s.4301$LS3....@fed12.iad>,
Obscenity, the last refuge of a scoundrel
> If you don't women to be raped, then stop raping them.
You assume that I HAVE raped anyone, which is a libel.
> Nearly 4 million abortions performed in America each year.
> Much less than 1 (one) percent comes from rape.
> The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
> mother.
Actually, some abortions are to save the life of the woman, as in the
case of many ectopic pregnancies, which occur in about 1 out of 50
pregnancies.
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/ectopicpregnancy.
html
An ectopic pregnancy occurs when the fertilized egg attaches itself in a
place other than inside the uterus. Almost all ectopic pregnancies occur
in a fallopian tube, and are thus sometimes called tubal pregnancies.
The fallopian tubes are not designed to hold a growing embryo; the
fertilized egg in a tubal pregnancy cannot develop normally and must be
treated. An ectopic pregnancy happens in 1 out of 50 pregnancies.
> You go ahead and worry about the one or two rapes.
Don't forget all those ectopic pregnancies!
> The rest of the world will worry about the slutty muthas who hate
> their kids.
A woman's attitude does not have any measuravable effect on the
incidence of ectopic pregnancy, oh you with the sluttiest of mothers.
> If you don't women to be raped, then stop raping them.
> Nearly 4 million abortions performed in America each year.
> Much less than 1 (one) percent comes from rape.
> The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
> mother.
case of many ectopic pregnancies, which occur in about 1 out of 50
pregnancies.
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/ectopicpregnancy.
html
An ectopic pregnancy occurs when the fertilized egg attaches itself in a
place other than inside the uterus. Almost all ectopic pregnancies occur
in a fallopian tube, and are thus sometimes called tubal pregnancies.
The fallopian tubes are not designed to hold a growing embryo; the
fertilized egg in a tubal pregnancy cannot develop normally and must be
treated. An ectopic pregnancy happens in 1 out of 50 pregnancies.
> You go ahead and worry about the one or two rapes.
> The rest of the world will worry about the slutty muthas who hate
> their kids.
incidence of ectopic pregnancy, oh you with the sluttiest of mothers.
W.T.S.
Sep 29, 2012, 12:50:12 AM9/29/12
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In article <se1c68ddmri2tf1fj...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
humanity.
@cox.net says...
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
> >>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
> >
> >
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
I see you as a sick, degenerate Catholic that has a hate for all of
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
> >>
> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> >> good.
> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> >> my own behavior.
> >
> >
> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>
> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
humanity.
W.T.S.
Sep 29, 2012, 12:53:03 AM9/29/12
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In article <ylr9s.4301$LS3....@fed12.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
Any reason is a good reason for a woman to abort her fetus filth. Is
this a problem with you? It's not a problem to me. Only normal, decent
women have abortions. Degenerate sluts give birth.
this a problem with you? It's not a problem to me. Only normal, decent
women have abortions. Degenerate sluts give birth.
duke
Sep 29, 2012, 5:50:39 AM9/29/12
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
>> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
>> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
>> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>>
>> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>>
>> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
>> >prohibition.
>> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
>> >a society.
>
>Bad law causes anarchy!
>
>And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
They're good laws.
>In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
>> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
>> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
>> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>>
>> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>>
>> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
>> >prohibition.
>> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
>> >a society.
>
>Bad law causes anarchy!
>
>And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
duke
Sep 29, 2012, 5:51:49 AM9/29/12
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duke
Sep 29, 2012, 5:52:42 AM9/29/12
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:28:39 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>In article <se1c68ddmri2tf1fj...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
>> >>
>> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> >> don't.
>> >>
>> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>> >> good.
>> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> >> my own behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>>
>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>
>As far as I can see, the only men who she dislikes are those who act
>like being male makes them somehow better than women.
My character does that for me.
>In article <se1c68ddmri2tf1fj...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:50:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <mBV8s.33$5P...@fe13.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> "SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
>> >>
>> >> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>> >> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> >> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> >> don't.
>> >>
>> >> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> >> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>> >> good.
>> >> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> >> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> >> my own behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> >And there he goes, proving his hatred of women again.
>>
>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>
>As far as I can see, the only men who she dislikes are those who act
>like being male makes them somehow better than women.
>Since there are plenty of good men around who, unlike you, are nowhere
>nearly as egomaniacal, she need not hat ALL men, just those like you
>whose balls are so small that their egos swell to fill the gap.
Budikka666
Sep 29, 2012, 7:52:25 AM9/29/12
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Duke Box is a Partial Birth Abortion!
Here's Duke Box's history of shrinking away like a limp Peter at the
Passion"
Duck & Run Ran:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/0cb3889ae3bd41dd
Duped Denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/867lax4
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
Budikka
Here's Duke Box's history of shrinking away like a limp Peter at the
Passion"
Duck & Run Ran:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/0cb3889ae3bd41dd
Duped Denies Christ Thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/867lax4
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
Budikka
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 8:14:32 AM9/29/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> > Do you have any clue as to how many women are forced to bear their
>> > rapist's bastards because you oppose abortion for any reason?
>> > Even once is way too often!
>>
>> Shaddup, you fuckin loozer.
>
> Obscenity, the last refuge of a scoundrel
It merely shows that your stupidity has finally taken a toll on me.
> "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> > Do you have any clue as to how many women are forced to bear their
>> > rapist's bastards because you oppose abortion for any reason?
>> > Even once is way too often!
>>
>> Shaddup, you fuckin loozer.
>
> Obscenity, the last refuge of a scoundrel
I guess you just can't fix stupid on verj.
>> If you don't women to be raped, then stop raping them.
>
> You assume that I HAVE raped anyone, which is a libel.
Get in line.
You are merely another loozer who claims he can sue me.
please...... please......... be a man..... follow through.
>> Nearly 4 million abortions performed in America each year.
>> Much less than 1 (one) percent comes from rape.
>> The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
>> mother.
>
> Actually, some abortions are to save the life of the woman, as in the
> case of many ectopic pregnancies, which occur in about 1 out of 50
> pregnancies.
> http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/ectopicpregnancy.
> html
Most ectopic pregnancies are miscarried.
A very few - VERY FEW - are aborted.
Most people understand this can me a medical EMERGENCY.
But then, this is also much less than 1 (one) percent.
The other 3.9 Million children are aborted for the convenience of the
mother.
mother.
>> You go ahead and worry about the one or two rapes.
>
> Don't forget all those ectopic pregnancies!
Medical emergencies - required to save a life.
>
> Don't forget all those ectopic pregnancies!
>> The rest of the world will worry about the slutty muthas who hate
>> their kids.
>
> A woman's attitude does not have any measuravable effect on the
> incidence of ectopic pregnancy, oh you with the sluttiest of mothers.
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 8:15:54 AM9/29/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-C2F831...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 8:16:48 AM9/29/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
What is your mutha's name?
linuxgal
Sep 29, 2012, 10:10:46 AM9/29/12
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duke wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:08 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>
>>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>
>> If you prefer chocolate cake does that mean you hate ice cream?
>
> Could be.
All 'r nuttin'. Yer either with Dubya or yer with Qaeda. Yer either
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:08 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>
>>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>
>> If you prefer chocolate cake does that mean you hate ice cream?
>
> Could be.
supportin' the troops 'r yer supportin' terrah. Yer either hot for
Kenny Chesney 'r yer hot for the Dixie Chicks. Black 'r white. There
ain't no middle ground.
elizabeth
Sep 29, 2012, 2:13:29 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 5:43 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <Kor9s.15$6d3...@fed08.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Or even any case under common law
> In article <Kor9s.15$6d3...@fed08.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
>
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> > Who denies this?
> > I will pay for it myself.
> > However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
> > I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
> > it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
>
> Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>
> --
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
>
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> > Who denies this?
> > I will pay for it myself.
> > However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
> > I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
> > it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
>
> Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>
> --
> JD
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Or even any case under common law
Uirgil
Sep 29, 2012, 4:11:41 PM9/29/12
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In article <h2hd6857m34cr1ml9...@4ax.com>,
Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
> >In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >
> >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
> >>
> >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
> >>
> >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >> >prohibition.
> >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >> >a society.
> >
> >Bad law causes anarchy!
> >
> >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
>
> They're good laws.
Only for Catholics. And not even for al of them.
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
> >In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >
> >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
> >>
> >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
> >>
> >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >> >prohibition.
> >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >> >a society.
> >
> >Bad law causes anarchy!
> >
> >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
>
> They're good laws.
Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
Uirgil
Sep 29, 2012, 4:13:51 PM9/29/12
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In article <g4hd68po9t7ble5je...@4ax.com>,
You "see" things through the blindfold of your sick prejudices then.
You "see" things through the blindfold of your sick prejudices then.
Uirgil
Sep 29, 2012, 4:19:46 PM9/29/12
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In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
So Patrick Sucks.
"Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> O U 8 1 2
That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> O U 8 1 2
So Patrick Sucks.
Uirgil
Sep 29, 2012, 4:37:16 PM9/29/12
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In article <QEB9s.41568$rx5....@fed03.iad>,
She doesn't know any either! Nor does my father.
Maybe your mutha or fatha does. Ask ask them - separately!
Maybe your mutha or fatha does. Ask ask them - separately!
Syd M.
Sep 29, 2012, 4:51:59 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 8:33 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>
> news:uirgil-27C358....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <Xei9s.6267$Pf6.3...@fed16.iad>,
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>
> news:uirgil-27C358....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
Syd M.
Sep 29, 2012, 4:52:30 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 8:36 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>
> news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>
> > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>
> news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>
> > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>
> >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> >> > it.
>
> >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>
> > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> Who denies this?
>
YOU do, asshole.
>
> >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>
> >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> >> > it.
>
> >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>
> > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>
> Who denies this?
>
You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
Syd M.
Sep 29, 2012, 4:52:51 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 28, 8:37 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
IOW, you hate women.
Thank you for the admission.
> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Thank you for the admission.
Syd M.
Sep 29, 2012, 4:53:21 PM9/29/12
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On Sep 29, 5:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsruvcg4e6e9qcddjo...@4ax.com>,
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> > duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
> >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>
> >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>
> >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >> >prohibition.
> >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >> >a society.
>
> >Bad law causes anarchy!
>
> >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
>
> They're good laws.
>
>
You would think that, women hating bigot.
>
> >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>
> >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
>
> >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
>
> >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> >> >prohibition.
> >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> >> >a society.
>
> >Bad law causes anarchy!
>
> >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
>
> They're good laws.
>
>
Jeanne Douglas
Sep 29, 2012, 7:40:22 PM9/29/12
to
In article <uirgil-FD2130....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>,
Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> In article <h2hd6857m34cr1ml9...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> > > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> > >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> > >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
> > >>
> > >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
> > >>
> > >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> > >> >prohibition.
> > >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> > >> >a society.
> > >
> > >Bad law causes anarchy!
> > >
> > >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
> >
> > They're good laws.
>
> Only for Catholics. And not even for al of them.
>
> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
> In article <h2hd6857m34cr1ml9...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:16:34 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <qpva68drqrk3vdsru...@4ax.com>,
> > > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:45:24 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >That laws that are passed and are enforced are not sensible, consider
> > >> >Prohibition, does not mean that legislators will not pass them nor that
> > >> >prosecutors will not enforce them.
> > >>
> > >> Who cares what you think? Law is law.
> > >>
> > >> >What it does mean is that the people will not obey them, like with
> > >> >prohibition.
> > >> >Enforcing such bad laws can create disrespect for all laws, and destroy
> > >> >a society.
> > >
> > >Bad law causes anarchy!
> > >
> > >And you seem to favor enforcing bad laws!
> >
> > They're good laws.
>
> Only for Catholics. And not even for al of them.
>
> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 7:50:07 PM9/29/12
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"Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
S 125.00 Homicide defined.
Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
degree.
S 125.05 Homicide, abortion and related offenses; definitions of terms.
The following definitions are applicable to this article:
1. "Person," when referring to the victim of a homicide, means a human
being who has been born and is alive.
2. "Abortional act" means an act committed upon or with respect to a
female, whether by another person or by the female herself, whether she
is pregnant or not, whether directly upon her body or by the
administering, taking or prescription of drugs or in any other manner,
with intent to cause a miscarriage of such female.
3. "Justifiable abortional act." An abortional act is justifiable when
committed upon a female with her consent by a duly licensed physician
acting (a) under a reasonable belief that such is necessary to preserve
her life, or, (b) within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of her
pregnancy. A pregnant female`s commission of an abortional act upon
herself is justifiable when she acts upon the advice of a duly licensed
physician (1) that such act is necessary to preserve her life, or, (2)
within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of her pregnancy. The
submission by a female to an abortional act is justifiable when she
believes that it is being committed by a duly licensed physician, acting
under a reasonable belief that such act is necessary to preserve her
life, or, within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of her
pregnancy.
S 125.10 Criminally negligent homicide.
A person is guilty of criminally negligent homicide when, with
criminal negligence, he causes the death of another person.
Criminally negligent homicide is a class E felony.
S 125.11 Aggravated criminally negligent homicide.
A person is guilty of aggravated criminally negligent homicide when,
with criminal negligence, he or she causes the death of a police officer
or peace officer where such officer was in the course of performing his
or her official duties and the defendant knew or reasonably should have
known that such victim was a police officer or peace officer.
Aggravated criminally negligent homicide is a class C felony
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article125.htm
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 7:51:42 PM9/29/12
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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Abortion is Murder
Pro-choicers make a triple distinction among a human life, a human being and
a human person. Each cell in our bodies has human life, and a single cell
kept alive in a laboratory could be called "a human life" but certainly not
"a human being" or "a human person." "A human being" is a biologically whole
individual of the species. Even a human being born with no brain is a human
being, not an ape; but it is not a person because it has no brain and cannot
do anything distinctively human: think, know, choose, love, feel, desire,
commit, relate, aspire, know itself, know God, know its past, know its
future, know its environment, or communicate - all of which have, in various
combinations, been offered as the marks of a person. The pro-life position
seems to confuse the sanctity of the person with the sanctity of life, which
is two steps removed from it.
Pro-choicers say the very young product of conception, the zygote, has no
ability to perform any of the distinctive activities that anyone associates
with personhood (reasoning, choosing, loving, communicating, etc.) - not
even feeling pain, for the zygote has no brain or nervous system. At first
it is only a single cell. How could anyone call a single cell a person?
Pro-choicers claim that personhood begins not at at conception, but develops
gradually, as a matter of degree. Every one of the characteristics we use to
identify personhood arises and grows gradually rather than suddenly. The
fetus is potentially a person, but it must grow into an actual person.
Pro-choicers will say that personhood is not a clear concept. There is not
universal agreement on it. Different philosophers, scientists, religionists,
moralists, mothers, and observers define it differently. It is a matter of
opinion where the dividing line between persons and non-persons should be
located. But what is a matter of opinion should not be decided or enforced
by law. Law should express social consensus, and there is no consensus in
our society about personhood's beginning or, consequently, about abortion.
One opinion should not be forced on all. Pro-choice is not pro-abortion but,
precisely, pro-choice.
Thus there are four and only four possibilities: that it is not a person and
we know that, that it is a person and we know that, that it is a person but
we do not know that, and that it is not a person and we do not know that.
Now what is abortion in each of these four cases? In case (1), abortion is
perfectly permissible. We do no wrong if we kill what is not a person and we
know it is not a person-e.g., if we fry a fish. But no one has ever proved
with certainty that a fetus is not a person. If there exists anywhere such a
proof, please show it to me and I shall convert to pro-choice on the spot if
I cannot refute it.
Is abortion murder?
Not all killing is murder, of course. Murder is actually a small subset of
all killing, which includes accidental homicide, killing in self-defense,
suicide, euthanasia, etc. When pro-life activists call abortion "murder,"
they are suggesting that abortion fits the definition of murder, namely,
"illegal killing with malice aforethought." However, abortion fails this
definition for two reasons. First, abortion is not illegal, and second,
mothers hardly feel malice towards their own unborn children.
Some might object the first point is overly legalistic. Just because killing
is legal doesn't make it right. Exterminating Jews in Nazi Germany was
certainly legal, but few doubt that it was murder.
But why do we still consider the Holocaust murder? The answer is that we
hold the Nazis to a higher law. When the Nazis were tried in Nuremberg for
their war crimes, they were not accused of "crimes against Germans" or even
"crimes against Jews." Instead, they were charged with "crimes against
humanity." The reason is because there was no legal basis to charge them
otherwise. The massacre of Jews was legal under German law. So in order to
punish the German leaders for clearly wrong behavior, the Allies had to
evoke a higher law, a law of humanity. (1) The Holocaust was condemned as
illegal, and therefore murder, because it violated this law.
Many pro-life advocates claim that the same reasoning applies to abortion.
Although abortion is legal under current U.S. law, it is not legal when it
is held up to a higher law, namely, the law of God.
About 4,000 babies are killed everyday. No, this is not due to disease,
SIDS, or even mal-nutrition. 4,000 living beings are killed everyday due to
abortion. This is one of the most controversial topics in America. Many
people even chose their president based on their view. But what I wonder is,
how can the murder of a living being possibly be so controversial? Abortion
should be considered murder, immoral, and illegal.Abortion is defined as the
termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus. Abortions
are most commonly performed between the sixth and twelfth week of pregnancy,
where conception occurs at week two and birth occurs at week forty.
Abortions are also performed routinely up to sixteen weeks and then less
often into the later months of pregnancy. And what is the definition of
murder? Murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially
with premeditated malice. How is this any different then abortion? Sure,
abortion involves the killing of a fetus or an embryo, but in reality a
fetus and embryo are forms of life and should be considered human beings.
Many people will argue that the fetus and embryo are not considered human
beings, since they have only begun to form into a human being
President Lincoln repeatedly discussed the matter with his cabinet. During
one difficult discussion, he asked: "Gentlemen, how many legs does a sheep
have?" Each man answered correctly, "Four, Mr. President." He proceeded,
"Let's call his tail a leg. Now how many legs?" Each man replied, "Five, Mr.
President." Mr. Lincoln retorted, "Nope, still only four. Just because we
call it a leg doesn't make it one."
Mr. Lincoln's wit and wisdom speak to our present day confusion about
abortion. Let me explain.
Abortion is murder. Each abortion snuffs out an innocent human life.
Tragically, doctors have deceived the American public. Referring to unborn
babies as "fetus," "embryo," or "zygote," may be scientifically correct, but
does not change the fact: These little ones are little human beings. Though
called "parasite," "blob," or "tissue," give each wee creature about 266
days after conception and see what emerges from his mother's womb. It will
be a human baby, not a zebra, a trout, frog or an orangutan.
Remember Mr. Lincoln. Don't be deceived by folks (even doctors) who call a
tail a leg - or humans anything but humans. When a human egg and a human
sperm unite, the resulting individual is simply human. Given time, nutrition
and protection, he or she will grow to maturity. Calling abortion a
"termination" or "evacuating the uterus" doesn't change its reality as
murder-slaughtering a human being with premeditated malice.
Some Comments Comical
Were it not tragic, some abortion comments could be comical. A previous
guest writer on this page, Dr. Harrison, said the unborn baby is "a parasite
without feeling, thought, or experience... the fetus simply does not have
the things required to feel pain..."
But nerves are in place by six to eight weeks after conception. The
chemicals necessary to send messages over nerve pathways to the brain are
present by 12 weeks. Ask yourself - if you were stuck, pinched, grabbed, cut
or crushed, how would you react? You likely would squirm, thrash, try to
escape or fight. Your blood pressure would go up; your pulse would speed up.
That's how pre-born babies respond. Before being cut to pieces, sucked
apart, chemically killed, or otherwise abused (to death), these little
humans struggle, seeking to escape the destruction. In my opinion,
abortionists have forfeited the privilege to be called "physicians", for
they have abandoned the responsibility of acting like physicians.
What about rape? What about incest? These horrors defy descriptive
condemnation. They represent the least human and most selfish acts
imaginable - along with murder - and they deserve swift and severe
punishment. A woman or girl abused by rape or incest should be seen
promptly, evaluated with compassion and treated appropriately to prevent
conception. Should pregnancy occur, the tragedy should not be compounded by
another crime: Murdering the baby.
Rape and incest deserve one further note: They (thank God) represent a
relatively uncommon cause of pregnancy - and figure in less than 2 percent
of abortions. The other 98 percent are done for the sake of convenience (not
that of the baby). Abortion represents the most common surgical procedure
performed in America today. Enough human lives are snuffed out each day to
populate Mena, De Queen, or Fordyce. Each week, abortionists slaughter a
group of babies equal in number to the population of Springdale or El
Dorado.
One more tragedy - often delayed and overlooked - concerns the mother of the
aborted baby. I have cared for and counseled such women - women who find it
difficult to live with an awakened conscience. Though duped, squelched or
ignored, a conscience awakened to reality may produce guilt, grief and pain.
Even with the reality of forgiveness, the scars may produce long-standing
consequences.
One last 'leg-tail' deserves comment. Can you remember folks saying, "Don't
push your morality on me!" when foes of abortion challenge its practise?
Most folk appreciate our society's restrictions on rape, robbery, assault
and murder - and those restrictions are based on morality, as is every
aspect of our lives, whether collectively or individually.
As a believer in Jesus Christ, I'm convinced that moral absolutes exist. My
convictions as a Christian and as a physician include the sanctity of human
life. If each individual human (including unborn babies) does not have
worth, if we do not acknowledge our responsibility to care for the unwanted
and the defenseless, we will find our collective path ending at the ovens of
Auschwitz, the Gulags of Siberia, or the Abortion Chambers of America.
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 7:52:45 PM9/29/12
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What up, verj?
Patrick
Sep 29, 2012, 7:53:24 PM9/29/12
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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Kenny McCormack
Sep 29, 2012, 8:06:53 PM9/29/12
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In article <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
...
(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
Catholics, and would do themselves and everyone else an enormous favor by
stating so publicly. It would allow them to get on with their lives.
--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as foolish,
and by the rulers as useful.
(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
...
>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>
>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>
>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
Catholics, and would do themselves and everyone else an enormous favor by
stating so publicly. It would allow them to get on with their lives.
--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as foolish,
and by the rulers as useful.
(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
Free Lunch
Sep 29, 2012, 8:07:02 PM9/29/12
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:40:22 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
They know that the bishops either know nothing about reproduction or are
corrupt liars.
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
corrupt liars.
Free Lunch
Sep 29, 2012, 8:41:14 PM9/29/12
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:06:53 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote in alt.atheism:
>In article <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
>Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
>The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
>(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>
>I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
>Catholics, and would do themselves and everyone else an enormous favor by
>stating so publicly. It would allow them to get on with their lives.
As long as the RCC gets the money, they don't complain too loudly.
If the RCC excommunicated every family that practiced family planning in
a way that the RCC did not approve of, the RCC would be out of business.
(Kenny McCormack) wrote in alt.atheism:
>In article <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
>Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
>The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
>(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>
>I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
>Catholics, and would do themselves and everyone else an enormous favor by
>stating so publicly. It would allow them to get on with their lives.
If the RCC excommunicated every family that practiced family planning in
a way that the RCC did not approve of, the RCC would be out of business.
W.T.S.
Sep 29, 2012, 10:16:19 PM9/29/12
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In article <POL9s.42034$rx5....@fed03.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
>
And any of this concerns abortion, how again?
>
Summary: No baby has ever been involved in any abortion.
>
For more truth, see the links below:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> >
> >> O U 8 1 2
> >
> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
> > So Patrick Sucks.
>
<snip> Usual nonsense, why repost? </snip>
> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> >
> >> O U 8 1 2
> >
> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
> > So Patrick Sucks.
>
>
And any of this concerns abortion, how again?
>
Summary: No baby has ever been involved in any abortion.
>
For more truth, see the links below:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
W.T.S.
Sep 29, 2012, 10:24:48 PM9/29/12
to
In article <kQL9s.10370$Vg1...@fed02.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
Why do pro-liars lie so much?
>
<snip> Very long spew of lying bull shit by a forced birther, pro-liar,
anti-choice loon, why bother to repost babbling nonsense?????? </snip>
>
Summary: Abortion is normal and decent, not matter how much lying bull
shit forced birthers dream up. So, what else is new? End of story!
>
For more of the actual truth, start with the links below:
> "Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:30d6c60b-a3f6-44e9...@v15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 28, 8:36 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >
> > news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >
> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
> >
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
> >
> > Who denies this?
> >
> YOU do, asshole.
> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>
> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
> Abortion is Murder
Pure, lying bull shit. No baby has ever been involved in any abortion!
> news:30d6c60b-a3f6-44e9...@v15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 28, 8:36 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >
> > news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >
> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
> >
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
> >
> > Who denies this?
> >
> YOU do, asshole.
> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>
> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
> Abortion is Murder
Why do pro-liars lie so much?
>
<snip> Very long spew of lying bull shit by a forced birther, pro-liar,
anti-choice loon, why bother to repost babbling nonsense?????? </snip>
>
Summary: Abortion is normal and decent, not matter how much lying bull
shit forced birthers dream up. So, what else is new? End of story!
>
For more of the actual truth, start with the links below:
SkyEyes
Sep 30, 2012, 3:40:16 AM9/30/12
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On Sep 27, 3:09 am, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
"slut." The two things are barely even orthogonal. Just another
manifestation of The Last Great Prejudice, I suppose; the only women
who qualify as not-sluts want babies. It's impossible for people like
you to realize that women are individuals, all of whom do *NOT* want
the same things.
Have fun in your strict black-and-white world, Patrick.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
>
> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> don't.
>
> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> good.
> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> my own behavior.
I just *love* how you jump from "I don't want any babies *ever*" to
> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
> don't.
>
> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
> good.
> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
> my own behavior.
"slut." The two things are barely even orthogonal. Just another
manifestation of The Last Great Prejudice, I suppose; the only women
who qualify as not-sluts want babies. It's impossible for people like
you to realize that women are individuals, all of whom do *NOT* want
the same things.
Have fun in your strict black-and-white world, Patrick.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
•R.Measures
Sep 30, 2012, 7:07:40 AM9/30/12
to
In article <POL9s.42034$rx5....@fed03.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
wrote:
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> >
> >> O U 8 1 2
> >
> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
> > So Patrick Sucks.
>
> OOOOOOOOOO.....KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
> S 125.00 Homicide defined.
> Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
> child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
> weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
> degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
> homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
> degree.
>
*** This is what happens when unqualified persons write laws. Example:
there are a number of fatal cranial defects that are Not observable at <24
weeks. This is the principal reason why late term abortions are needed
examples:
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN014.html
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN018.html
wrote:
> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
> >
> >> O U 8 1 2
> >
> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
> > So Patrick Sucks.
>
> OOOOOOOOOO.....KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
> S 125.00 Homicide defined.
> Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
> child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
> weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
> degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
> homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
> degree.
>
there are a number of fatal cranial defects that are Not observable at <24
weeks. This is the principal reason why late term abortions are needed
examples:
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN014.html
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN018.html
duke
Sep 30, 2012, 7:10:17 AM9/30/12
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:40:22 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************
duke
Sep 30, 2012, 7:12:11 AM9/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:06:53 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
>In article <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
>Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
>The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
>(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
>Catholics
No, according to what Jesus said, they made mistakes called sin. And then he
>In article <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
>Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
>The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
>(adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
>Catholics
went on to advise that he alone avoided sin.
>, and would do themselves and everyone else an enormous favor by
>stating so publicly. It would allow them to get on with their lives.
duke
Sep 30, 2012, 7:30:44 AM9/30/12
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:10:46 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:08 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>>
>>> If you prefer chocolate cake does that mean you hate ice cream?
>>
>> Could be.
>All 'r nuttin'. Yer either with Dubya or yer with Qaeda.
I'm with W. How about you?
>duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:08 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I see you as a lesbian that hates all men.
>>>
>>> If you prefer chocolate cake does that mean you hate ice cream?
>>
>> Could be.
>All 'r nuttin'. Yer either with Dubya or yer with Qaeda.
> Yer either
>supportin' the troops 'r yer supportin' terrah.
> Yer either hot for
>Kenny Chesney 'r yer hot for the Dixie Chicks.
Dixie Chicks.
> Black 'r white.
> There
>ain't no middle ground.
duke
Sep 30, 2012, 7:31:59 AM9/30/12
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0700 (PDT), elizabeth <elizabet...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sep 28, 5:43 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <Kor9s.15$6d3...@fed08.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
>> wrote:
>> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> >news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
>> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>>
>> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
>> > >> > it.
>>
>> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>>
>> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
>> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>>
>> > Who denies this?
>> > I will pay for it myself.
>> > However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
>> > I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
>> > it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
>>
>> Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
wrote:
>On Sep 28, 5:43 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <Kor9s.15$6d3...@fed08.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com>
>> wrote:
>> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> >news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
>> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
>>
>> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
>> > >> > it.
>>
>> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
>>
>> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
>> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
>>
>> > Who denies this?
>> > I will pay for it myself.
>> > However, for the other 3 million slut who kill their kids,
>> > I don't want to pay for their abortions. And stop calling
>> > it healthcare. Call it what it is: MURDER.
>>
>> Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>Or even any case under common law
They are endless under God's law.
duke
Sep 30, 2012, 7:34:20 AM9/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:40:16 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sep 27, 3:09 am, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
>>
>> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> don't.
>>
>> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>> good.
>> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> my own behavior.
>
>I just *love* how you jump from "I don't want any babies *ever*" to
>"slut."
It's very easy. Many women sans morals are quick to spread 'em but don't have
>On Sep 27, 3:09 am, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>> "SkyEyes" <skyey...@cox.net> wrote
>>
>> None of that applies, however, to women who quite simply don't want
>> *any* baby, ever, or *that* baby, for whatever reason.
>> The choice is very simple: either women have bodily autonomy, or they
>> don't.
>>
>> + Just another way to excuse bad behavior. (No, I am not fat. I am
>> merely big boned.... It's not my fault that the bag of Doritos taste so
>> good.
>> It's all MacDonald's fault that I am fat.) Just because I enjoy being
>> a slut, that doesn't mean I should have to bear the responsibility for
>> my own behavior.
>
>I just *love* how you jump from "I don't want any babies *ever*" to
>"slut."
the moral code to accept the results, like std's for instance.
•R.Measures
Sep 30, 2012, 7:35:17 AM9/30/12
to
In article <kQL9s.10370$Vg1...@fed02.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
> "Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:30d6c60b-a3f6-44e9...@v15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 28, 8:36 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >
> > news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >
> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
> >
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
> >
> > Who denies this?
> >
>
> YOU do, asshole.
> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>
> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
> Abortion is Murder
>
€€€ even when the fetus has a fatal DNA defect?
> "Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:30d6c60b-a3f6-44e9...@v15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 28, 8:36 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> > "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
> >
> > news:uirgil-F6368A....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >
> > > In article <Sfi9s.14089$5p.13...@fed06.iad>,
> > > "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote ...
> >
> > >> > Being raped is not a womans fault and she should not be punished for
> > >> > it.
> >
> > >> Well then, stop punishing them.
> >
> > > Those who would deny such victims the right to abort their rapists
> > > bastard leftovers are the ones punishing them.
> >
> > Who denies this?
> >
>
> YOU do, asshole.
> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>
> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
> Abortion is Murder
>
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:24:34 AM9/30/12
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"Kenny McCormack" <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote in message
news:k482et$v2s$1...@news.xmission.com...
100 percent of ALL people sin.
This includes 100 percent of all Catholics.
I am sinning now - just thinking how cool it would
be for you to topple over with a painful heart attack.
news:k482et$v2s$1...@news.xmission.com...
> In article
> <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
> The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
> (adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>
> I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
> Catholics,
Who put you in charge of "definitions?"
> <hlwdjsd2-4E1A28...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Lots of catholics now use the pill or condoms rather than rhythm or
>>> abstinence, despite the hierarchy's admonitions.
>>
>>Was it 97% or 98% of Catholics who have used or are using birth control?
>
> The commonly quoted and generally accepted statistic is that 98% of all
> (adult) "Catholic" women have used BC at some point in their lives.
>
> I put that in quotes, because by my definitions, they are no longer
> Catholics,
100 percent of ALL people sin.
This includes 100 percent of all Catholics.
I am sinning now - just thinking how cool it would
be for you to topple over with a painful heart attack.
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:25:39 AM9/30/12
to
"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote
That is why we left a light on for you, lunchbox.
>
> If the RCC excommunicated every family that practiced family planning in
> a way that the RCC did not approve of, the RCC would be out of business.
If the RCC threw out every sinner, we wouldn't have anyone in the pews.
> If the RCC excommunicated every family that practiced family planning in
> a way that the RCC did not approve of, the RCC would be out of business.
That is why we left a light on for you, lunchbox.
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:26:59 AM9/30/12
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2ad16768f...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <POL9s.42034$rx5....@fed03.iad>, PBARK...@r.com says...
>> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
>> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>> >
>> >> O U 8 1 2
>> >
>> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
>> > So Patrick Sucks.
>>
> <snip> Usual nonsense, why repost? </snip>
>>
> And any of this concerns abortion, how again?
Read the question, and then read the answer.
>> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
>> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>> >
>> >> O U 8 1 2
>> >
>> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
>> > So Patrick Sucks.
>>
> <snip> Usual nonsense, why repost? </snip>
>>
> And any of this concerns abortion, how again?
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:28:32 AM9/30/12
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".R.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-3009120...@10.0.1.3...
> In article <POL9s.42034$rx5....@fed03.iad>, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
>> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>> >
>> >> O U 8 1 2
>> >
>> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
>> > So Patrick Sucks.
>>
>> OOOOOOOOOO.....KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
>> S 125.00 Homicide defined.
>> Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
>> child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
>> weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
>> degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
>> homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
>> degree.
>>
> *** This is what happens when unqualified persons write laws. Example:
> there are a number of fatal cranial defects that are Not observable at <24
> weeks. This is the principal reason why late term abortions are needed
That is not up for debate.
> wrote:
>
>> "Uirgil" <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in message
>> news:uirgil-E17FB0....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> > In article <_DB9s.10728$EP4....@fed01.iad>,
>> > "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> > Provide the statute name and number where abortion is called murder.
>> >
>> >> O U 8 1 2
>> >
>> > That is not the statute name or number for any such law in the US.
>> > So Patrick Sucks.
>>
>> OOOOOOOOOO.....KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
>> S 125.00 Homicide defined.
>> Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
>> child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
>> weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
>> degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
>> homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
>> degree.
>>
> *** This is what happens when unqualified persons write laws. Example:
> there are a number of fatal cranial defects that are Not observable at <24
> weeks. This is the principal reason why late term abortions are needed
The whiney loozer stated: Provide the statute name and number where
abortion is called murder. I THEN answered that.
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:29:33 AM9/30/12
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>>
>> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
>> Abortion is Murder
> Pure, lying bull shit. No baby has ever been involved in any abortion!
> Why do pro-liars lie so much?
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
>> You call abortion 'murder' and try to get it banned.
>>
>> + It is murder. People do NOT have the right to murder their children.
>> Abortion is Murder
> Pure, lying bull shit. No baby has ever been involved in any abortion!
> Why do pro-liars lie so much?
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:30:38 AM9/30/12
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Do you feel it is OK to kill a retarded kid?
Or a brain dead patient in the hospital?
Or a kid with autism?
Or a Jew?
Patrick
Sep 30, 2012, 9:33:33 AM9/30/12
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"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote
I just *love* how you jump from "I don't want any babies *ever*"
+ I never made that statement.
+ This was merely your interpretation of my statement.
+ Stop lying.
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to "slut." The two things are barely even orthogonal. Just another
manifestation of The Last Great Prejudice, I suppose; the only women
who qualify as not-sluts want babies.
+ I never made that statement.
+ This was merely your interpretation of my statement.
+ Stop lying.
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It's impossible for people like
you to realize that women are individuals, all of whom do *NOT* want
the same things.
+ It is impossible for you to interpret what I say.
+ It is obvious you only like to build strawmen.
+Stop being stupid, and...... stop lying.
I just *love* how you jump from "I don't want any babies *ever*"
+ This was merely your interpretation of my statement.
+ Stop lying.
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to "slut." The two things are barely even orthogonal. Just another
manifestation of The Last Great Prejudice, I suppose; the only women
who qualify as not-sluts want babies.
+ This was merely your interpretation of my statement.
+ Stop lying.
--------------------
It's impossible for people like
you to realize that women are individuals, all of whom do *NOT* want
the same things.
+ It is obvious you only like to build strawmen.
+Stop being stupid, and...... stop lying.
Free Lunch
Sep 30, 2012, 10:23:14 AM9/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:25:39 -0400, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:
As long as the RCC is run by a collection of immoral frauds like Pope
Benedict and Cardinal Dolan, there is no danger that I will ever become
Catholic. The last church service I went to was a wonderful Catholic
wedding, but it did not appear that that priest had anything good to say
about the reactionaries who are misruling the RCC.
in alt.atheism:
Benedict and Cardinal Dolan, there is no danger that I will ever become
Catholic. The last church service I went to was a wonderful Catholic
wedding, but it did not appear that that priest had anything good to say
about the reactionaries who are misruling the RCC.
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