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Piper

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Nov 19, 2008, 7:20:58 PM11/19/08
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Wiz (Wizard of Oz/Paul) and I exchange jokes and stuff all the time and I'd
been wondering why he hasn't been back to the group since he got married
last year. Here's his answer:

Well, the main reason I don't post over there is time, or rather the lack of
it. I'm working 5 days a week, helping to keep up with my mom, who's 85 and
no longer drives, and just enjoying married life. We just had our first
anniversary on Monday the 17th, and both of us had to work that day, so
we've decided to wait till Thanksgiving and do it up right during the midst
of our annual family reunion.

Between driving Mom around, being very active in my church, working, and
having a wonderful time living with my best friend, I only get a chance to
get on the computer about 2 days a week. I have to catch up on all my
e-mail, with all these forwards I get and send on, and also read some of my
other bulletin boards. About a year ago, shortly after getting married, I
started having trouble with my newsgroup connection, and just haven't taken
the time to fight with Comcast and get it corrected. so no newsgroups at all
for almost a year! Besides, I hear from you and Barry on a regular basis,
and I'm sure if anything earth shattering happens to one of the regs over
there, one of you will let me know about it.

That means less drama to deal with for me, since I have enough of that at
work. Working in a call center for a major satellite video provider is
plenty of drama, too. Over 400 people in one large room working in cubes
that are 4x3 and shoulder high, you get to know more than you want to about
all your co-workers. Between crazy customers, and even crazier fellow
employees, the wildness often runs rampant. I get off at midnight, then try
to decompress with the news paper at home before going to bed, usually not
much before 2:30-3am. Then get up by 9am to start the next day's Honey-Do
list. Needless to say, not much time to keep up with all the newsgroups I
used to run when I was still single and had no responsibilities to loved
ones. After 8 years of reading almost 45 newsgroups on a regular basis, the
peace and tranquility is much needed, so there is not much impetus to get my
server connection fixed. One of these days, though, I'll get it worked out
and come pay a visit.

Give all the rest of the gang my best, post this if you wish, and tell them
I said Happy Thanksgiving!! I'm very glad that Election Day is now behind
us and am curious to see what the future holds for us, our beloved country,
and what's left of the world at large.

Take care, and I'm still hoping we can get together some day. Tell Kevin to
drop me a line and I'll try to get up there to see him at work when I have
time.

Peace...

Wiz


--
Piper

TNKev

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Nov 22, 2008, 1:42:49 PM11/22/08
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Piper wrote:

> Take care, and I'm still hoping we can get together some day. Tell Kevin
> to drop me a line and I'll try to get up there to see him at work when I
> have time.
>
> Peace...
>
> Wiz
>
>

Yay Wiz!

Piper could you send me Paul's e-mail? I can't find it.

I should let him know I don't work there anymore. :-O

Kent Wills

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Nov 22, 2008, 6:42:54 PM11/22/08
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Where are you working?
Are you hanging out on the corner with a sign? If so, don't park
the '68 cherry Aston next to you. :)


--
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A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and
rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a turd by the clean end.

TNKev

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:41:46 PM11/24/08
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Kent Wills wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:42:49 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Piper wrote:
>>
>>> Take care, and I'm still hoping we can get together some day. Tell Kevin
>>> to drop me a line and I'll try to get up there to see him at work when I
>>> have time.
>>>
>>> Peace...
>>>
>>> Wiz
>>>
>>>
>> Yay Wiz!
>>
>> Piper could you send me Paul's e-mail? I can't find it.
>>
>> I should let him know I don't work there anymore. :-O
>
> Where are you working?

I am working at UPS as a package loader. hard work but they have awesome
benefits and I will likely be making the same amount of money in about a
year as I was making from the dealership only part time and with free
family health benefits. I wish I had started working there when I was
much younger.

> Are you hanging out on the corner with a sign? If so, don't park
> the '68 cherry Aston next to you. :)
>
>

I wish I had the guts to stand on the corner with a sign,those guys make
some bigtime bucks!

( isn't an Aston what all the SSGAs drive?)

Kent Wills

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Nov 24, 2008, 4:31:14 PM11/24/08
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:41:46 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>>>
>>> Piper could you send me Paul's e-mail? I can't find it.
>>>
>>> I should let him know I don't work there anymore. :-O
>>
>> Where are you working?
>
>I am working at UPS as a package loader.

SWEET!

>hard work but they have awesome
>benefits and I will likely be making the same amount of money in about a
>year as I was making from the dealership only part time and with free
>family health benefits.

I worked for UPS eons ago. They offered free Brontosaurus
parking back then :)
Seriously, I did work for them for a bit during the time I was at
Devry. They paid very well ($8.50 an hour if I recall correctly) and
had a very flexible schedule. Plus free benefits that started on day
one. I never had cause to make use of the benefits, but it was nice
to have them, just in case.
I wanted to be a sorter, but no one who had the position was
willing to leave. Even if someone was to leave or get promoted, I was
so low on the seniority ladder, I still wouldn't have gotten it.
Do they still "build the wall" in each truck? If so, have you
had one fall yet?
It SUCKS! It happened to me once, and only once. If it happens,
one tends to make certain it doesn't happen again.
I had to rebuild the wall while still keeping my average of (I
think) 30 a minute.

>I wish I had started working there when I was
>much younger.
>

Did you know everyone at the shipping centers started out loading
trucks? Most of the people at corporate too. That was the case back
when I worked for them, anyway.
The big wig at the center once loaded trucks, just like everyone
else there. It was a good motivator, really. Plus it helped to
ensure the big wigs could better relate to the rank and file workers.

>> Are you hanging out on the corner with a sign? If so, don't park
>> the '68 cherry Aston next to you. :)
>>
>>
>
>I wish I had the guts to stand on the corner with a sign,those guys make
>some bigtime bucks!

So I've heard.

>
>( isn't an Aston what all the SSGAs drive?)

You'd need to ask Enzo :)

[1] Devry used to, and maybe still does, have a trimester school year
as opposed to semesters like most others. Fall, winter and summer.
Each lasted just under four months.
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bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

Gin

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Nov 24, 2008, 7:03:46 PM11/24/08
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>( isn't an Aston what all the SSGAs drive?)

>You'd need to ask Enzo :)

~~~~~~~~~~
<wondering why I have a cherry red Aston Martin in my driveway>

<notices another letter from the SSGA folks, feels a key inside envelope>

Wonder what this means??


--
Gin in Texas
If you see typos or stray punctuation marks, Speckles is walking on my
keyb;dufh;mn!!


Greegor

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Nov 25, 2008, 9:33:49 AM11/25/08
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TNKev:
I understand it's not quite as bad as boot camp.

KW wrote


>      Did you know everyone at the shipping centers started out loading
> trucks?  Most of the people at corporate too. That was the case back
> when I worked for them, anyway.
>      The big wig at the center once loaded trucks, just like everyone
> else there.  It was a good motivator, really.  Plus it helped to
> ensure the big wigs could better relate to the rank and file workers.

I used to admire that policy.
But I heard they dropped it more than a decade ago.

Apparently it was making it tough to recruit upper level talent.

TNKev

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:36:28 PM11/29/08
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Kent Wills wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:41:46 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> Piper could you send me Paul's e-mail? I can't find it.
>>>>
>>>> I should let him know I don't work there anymore. :-O
>>> Where are you working?
>> I am working at UPS as a package loader.
>
> SWEET!
>
>> hard work but they have awesome
>> benefits and I will likely be making the same amount of money in about a
>> year as I was making from the dealership only part time and with free
>> family health benefits.
>
> I worked for UPS eons ago. They offered free Brontosaurus
> parking back then :)

They still have a gravel parking lot in the back!

> Seriously, I did work for them for a bit during the time I was at
> Devry. They paid very well ($8.50 an hour if I recall correctly) and
> had a very flexible schedule. Plus free benefits that started on day
> one. I never had cause to make use of the benefits, but it was nice
> to have them, just in case.

the wait for benefits as of August '08 is 1 year for the employee and 18
months until family can be added, still worth it....the pay hasn't
changed...

> I wanted to be a sorter, but no one who had the position was
> willing to leave. Even if someone was to leave or get promoted, I was
> so low on the seniority ladder, I still wouldn't have gotten it.

everything is based on seniority so the easier jobs are hard to get.
they say the wait to be a semi driver is 6 to 8 years but they make 60K
to 100K per year, so well worth the wait!

> Do they still "build the wall" in each truck? If so, have you
> had one fall yet?

Most definitely! build the wall that is. I am very good at it so no none
have fallen on me :-) I get lots of compliments on my wall building,
tight and all the way to the top! :-D I have buried my scanner though
and had to dig back 4 walls to get it....wasn't pretty.

> It SUCKS! It happened to me once, and only once. If it happens,
> one tends to make certain it doesn't happen again.
> I had to rebuild the wall while still keeping my average of (I
> think) 30 a minute.

I load at an average of 375 per hour if the packages are coming. I
generally load from 900 to 1500 packages in a shift, usually 4 to 5
hours. I am on the fastest PD in the hub. we get between 9000 and 15000
packages per shift and have a misload rate of 1 per 10000. Dat's riight
we bad dat's riight!

>
>> I wish I had started working there when I was
>> much younger.
>>
>
> Did you know everyone at the shipping centers started out loading
> trucks? Most of the people at corporate too. That was the case back
> when I worked for them, anyway.
> The big wig at the center once loaded trucks, just like everyone
> else there. It was a good motivator, really. Plus it helped to
> ensure the big wigs could better relate to the rank and file workers.

The CEO of UPS started out loading trucks. that is from what I am told
nearly the only job you can walk in off the street and apply for. It's
nice that you know when a person comes in to tell you what to do they
have done your job and understand what it's like.

TNKev

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:37:32 PM11/29/08
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Gin wrote:
>> ( isn't an Aston what all the SSGAs drive?)
>
> >You'd need to ask Enzo :)
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> <wondering why I have a cherry red Aston Martin in my driveway>
>
> <notices another letter from the SSGA folks, feels a key inside envelope>
>
> Wonder what this means??
>
>
It's probably a trick Gin......probably has a pie for an airbag!

TNKev

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Nov 29, 2008, 1:44:38 PM11/29/08
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Greegor wrote:
> TNKev:
> I understand it's not quite as bad as boot camp.

I haven't been to boot camp so I couldn't know.

>
> KW wrote
>> Did you know everyone at the shipping centers started out loading
>> trucks? Most of the people at corporate too. That was the case back
>> when I worked for them, anyway.
>> The big wig at the center once loaded trucks, just like everyone
>> else there. It was a good motivator, really. Plus it helped to
>> ensure the big wigs could better relate to the rank and file workers.
>
> I used to admire that policy.
> But I heard they dropped it more than a decade ago.

no they haven't, a person may be hired with the intent to work in
management but they have to do their time in the ranks first.
Advancement is seniority based.

you don't know anything about having a job.

>
> Apparently it was making it tough to recruit upper level talent.

idiot.

Kent Wills

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Nov 29, 2008, 8:56:42 PM11/29/08
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Please don't feed the troll.


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I poked a badger with a spoon.

Gin

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Nov 30, 2008, 12:59:52 AM11/30/08
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Kev wrote:
> It's probably a trick Gin......probably has a pie for an airbag!
~~~~~~~~~~
So we go to Lousyana for Turkey Day...should've taken the Aston or at least
put it in the garage! It's gone and I have no idea where. The letter
inviting me to join the SSGA for a low, low limited time offer for a rate of
100 English pounds is gone as is the key. Hmmmm...maybe Enzo knows...

Btw, Kev, good to see you back! <smiles>

Greegor

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Nov 30, 2008, 5:14:46 PM11/30/08
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Do they know you are best buds with a convicted Burglary Felon?

http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768

Name Kent Bradley Wills
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 39
Location Interstate Compact
Offense BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE
County Of Commitment Polk
Commitment Date 01/16/2004

Kent Wills

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Nov 30, 2008, 6:22:30 PM11/30/08
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:14:46 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Do they know you are best buds with a convicted Burglary Felon?

I can assure you , Odilia, my best friend in real life, has not.
Is there a specific reason you're trying to imply via deceptive
innuendo, that she was?

TNKev

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Dec 2, 2008, 12:40:56 PM12/2/08
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Greegor wrote:
> Do they know you are best buds with a convicted Burglary Felon?


I would say I admire your persistence but with over a year of harassing
Kent this is just plain sad. do you have nothing else to do with your
life accept harass Kent? you have gotten nowhere with your incessant
ignorance.


I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
anything else to it.

Kent Wills

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Dec 2, 2008, 4:22:30 PM12/2/08
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greegor wrote:
>> Do they know you are best buds with a convicted Burglary Felon?
>
>
>I would say I admire your persistence but with over a year of harassing
>Kent this is just plain sad. do you have nothing else to do with your
>life accept harass Kent? you have gotten nowhere with your incessant
>ignorance.
>

Did you notice to whom he was asking that question? It was a
reply to one of my posts, as proved by the headers. He was asking me
if they know Odilia was once convicted of a felony. Specifically
burglary.
To the best of my knowledge, she's never been arrested for, let
alone convicted of, ANY crime.
In his question, he presents that she's been convicted for
committing a burglary. He loves to present his lies in the form of a
question.
If I answered yes or no, I would be agreeing that Odilia was
convicted of the felony he dishonestly claims.
Note that he's offered NOTHING to support, let alone prove, his
claim that she has such a conviction. It's just another in the LONG
string of Gregory Scott Hanson pathological lies.

>
>I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>anything else to it.

Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
advice he offers.

"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll
cripple you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out,
I'll be able to walk,but you will still be a cripple."
--Greg Hanson, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

Piper

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Dec 3, 2008, 6:31:48 PM12/3/08
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"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>anything else to it.
>
> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
> advice he offers.

You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
irritator more than being ignored.

Greegor

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Dec 3, 2008, 7:27:27 PM12/3/08
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Piper > You could always kill file the jerk, you know.
Piper > Nothing irritates an irritator more than being ignored.

Yes and here's an example of that! LOL

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/0ab199af055b4f7c
[...]
KW > Greg?
KW > You've gone silent. Has the light of truth so blinded you?
[...]

Kent Wills

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Dec 4, 2008, 5:12:48 PM12/4/08
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
vermin he is. People may actually listen to and believe his claims
about CPS. Those who are dealing with CPS and want to know the best
way to get them out of their lives may pay attention to what Greg
suggests.
Greg's motivation it to keep families apart. He desperately
wants kids kept as far from their parents as possible.
He will give suggestions that will ensure families remain
separate.
In some cases, the adults should never be allowed near the
child(ren) again. These are rare cases, but they do exist. In those
rare instances, doing what Greg would suggest would be best.
However, most cases aren't so serious. And reuniting the family
should be paramount. Greg's posting history proves he doesn't agree.

--
"Hail imp," shouted Vlad, the Imp Hailer.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 5, 2008, 1:32:24 PM12/5/08
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>>>anything else to it.
>>>
>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>> advice he offers.
>>
>>You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>irritator more than being ignored.
>
> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
> vermin he is.

But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.

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Piper

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Dec 5, 2008, 3:39:31 PM12/5/08
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"Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.ulpcg...@fx62.mshome.net...

> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>>>>anything else to it.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>>> advice he offers.
>>>
>>>You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>>irritator more than being ignored.
>>
>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>> vermin he is.
>
> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the
> posts.

I know I'm not reading any of it and Greg is kill filed.

Kent Wills

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Dec 5, 2008, 5:11:33 PM12/5/08
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:32:24 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>>>>anything else to it.
>>>>
>>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>>> advice he offers.
>>>
>>>You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>>irritator more than being ignored.
>>
>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>> vermin he is.
>
>But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.

In friends, yes. But Greg likes to cross-post to many groups,
including the CPS group.
It's in that group that those who are having to deal with CPS are
most likely to visit.


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Kent Wills

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Dec 5, 2008, 5:11:39 PM12/5/08
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:39:31 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I get the impression the only ones who haven't KF'ed him are
Kevin and me.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 6, 2008, 2:16:22 PM12/6/08
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Opera allows me to killfile all replies to someone too, I may just have to do this.

My childbirth instructor says it's not pain I'll feel during labour, but pressure. Is she right?
Yes, in the same way that a tornado might be called an air current.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 6, 2008, 2:25:02 PM12/6/08
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I have no idea what CPS is.

A rushed father is flying through the Toys-R-Us aisles before Christmas looking for a present for his daughter. He spies the display of various Barbie dolls, all in individual boxes. Ever mindful of a volume discount, he approaches a nearby employee and asks her, "Does Barbie come with Ken?"
The employee smiles and tells him, "No, Barbie only comes with G.I Joe. She just fakes it with Ken."

Kent Wills

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Dec 6, 2008, 3:43:55 PM12/6/08
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:25:02 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>>>But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.


>>
>> In friends, yes. But Greg likes to cross-post to many groups,
>> including the CPS group.
>> It's in that group that those who are having to deal with CPS are
>> most likely to visit.
>
>I have no idea what CPS is.

Child Protective Services. It's the "catch all" term for
agencies that remove children from child abusers like Greg.
In Iowa it's the Dept. of Human Services (DHS). A name change
has been suggested since the initials could confuse rubes. Dept. of
Homeland Security uses the same initials.


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-... .- -.. .-- --- .-.. ..-.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 6, 2008, 7:14:01 PM12/6/08
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:43:55 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:25:02 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>>>
>>> In friends, yes. But Greg likes to cross-post to many groups,
>>> including the CPS group.
>>> It's in that group that those who are having to deal with CPS are
>>> most likely to visit.
>>
>>I have no idea what CPS is.
>
> Child Protective Services. It's the "catch all" term for
> agencies that remove children from child abusers like Greg.

And remove children from parents when the children have made up lies about them. And before you start, I know someone in this line of work. It's a piece of nonsense.

> In Iowa it's the Dept. of Human Services (DHS). A name change
> has been suggested since the initials could confuse rubes. Dept. of
> Homeland Security uses the same initials.

WTF is a rube?

How do shepherds practice safe sex?
They paint an X on the back of the ones that kick!

Greegor

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Dec 9, 2008, 7:19:33 AM12/9/08
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KW > Child Protective Services.   It's the "catch all" term for
KW > agencies that remove children from child abusers like Greg.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.FRIENDS/msg/9f45e7e78a565ed7?hl=en

PH > And remove children from parents when the
PH > children have made up lies about them.  And
PH > before you start, I know someone in this line
PH > of work.  It's a piece of nonsense.

Worse. Kent knows, but honesty doesn't suit him.

TNKev

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Peter Hucker wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>>>> anything else to it.
>>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>>> advice he offers.
>>> You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>> irritator more than being ignored.
>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>> vermin he is.
>
> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>


wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.

TNKev

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a lot of my replies I snip friends from the headers so nobody here sees it.

Peter Hucker

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You find that endless twaddle of interest?

An 80-year-old man went to his doctor for his quarterly check-up.
The doctor asked him how he was feeling and the 80-year-old said
"Things are great and I've never felt better. I now have a 20 year-old bride who is pregnant with my child. So what do you think about that?"
The doctor considered his question for a minute and then began.
"I have an older friend, much like you, who is an avid hunter and never misses a season.
One day when he was setting off hunting, he was in a bit of a hurry and accidentally picked up his walking cane instead of his gun.
"As he neared a lake he came across a very large male beaver sitting at the water's edge.
He realized he'd left his gun at home and so couldn't shoot the magnificent creature but out of habit he raised his cane,
aimed it at the animal as if it were his favorite hunting rifle and went 'bang, bang'.
Miraculously, two shots rang out and the beaver fell over dead. Now, what do you think of that?" asked the doctor.
The 80-year-old said, "If you ask me, I'd say somebody else pumped a couple of rounds into that beaver."
The doctor replied, "My point exactly."

Kent Wills

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:19:16 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

[...]

>>> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>>>
>>
>>
>> wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>
>You find that endless twaddle of interest?

Kevin and I are troll busters. We enjoy making trolls look
foolish. Greg manages to make it real easy with him.
For example, according to Greg, I am at least four different
people named Kent Wills. That each of them has a different middle
name, different dates of birth, and live in different locations never
factors into it.
Pointing this out was very easy of course, and lead to Greg
slipping up and admitting he'd been lying the whole time.


--
Aspire to inspire before you expire.

Greegor

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Dec 10, 2008, 1:36:08 AM12/10/08
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Kent renamed thread:
Re: Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, wife and child abuser,
and illegal drug abuser (possibly recovering) is caught lying.

KW > Child Protective Services.   It's the "catch all" term for
KW > agencies that remove children from child abusers like Greg.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.FRIENDS/msg/9f45e7e78a565ed7?hl=en

PH > And remove children from parents when the
PH > children have made up lies about them.  And
PH > before you start, I know someone in this line
PH > of work.  It's a piece of nonsense.

G > Worse.  Kent knows, but honesty doesn't suit him.

KW > You can't be honest for any reason, huh?
KW > Not unless you screw up or are somehow
KW > forced to do so. I've spoken against CPS
KW > many times.  That I realize that they were
KW > 100% correct in regards to you doesn't
KW > mean I'm pro-CPS.  It only means they
KW > did nothing wrong regarding the various
KW > forms of abuse you inflicted on Lisa's little
KW > girl. What is the specific reason for this
KW > latest lie from you?  What, specifically,
KW > has caused you to be compelled to
KW > present this lie?  Are you having flash
KW > backs?  Are you once again abusing
KW > illegal drugs? Why are you stalking
KW > members of alt.friends?
KW > These are all serious questions.

The usual Kent Wills BS.
BTW, Kent, you now ASKED about drug use when
just days ago you ASSERTED that I was court
ordered into drug rehab. As you know such
information would be online and public, so
what's the case number, Kent??

KW > "If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll
KW > cripple you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out,
KW > I'll be able to walk,but you will still be a cripple."
KW >  --Greg Hanson, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

Kent quoted this from an online Pennsylvania Appeals court
ruling for a Gregory CHRISTIAN Hanson, easily confirmed
through PA's docket site.

Wrong person, wrong birthdate (yes, mine is online),
wrong age, wrong middle initial, etc.

Kent also routinely quotes a Greg Hanson that is
a White Supremacist.

Kent does this on purpose.

He'd like to pretend that he was not identified by
his birthday and middle name.

My birthday and middle name are well known online.
So is Kent's, but he claims that is a ""Fake ID"".
If it were his ""Fake ID"" then why would he want to counter it?

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Do his neighbors in Arkansas know he's a convicted child abuser?

Greegor

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I wouldn't do that, but the area neighborhood watch
should know he's a twice convicted thief.
2000 Felony Theft BEFORE his 2004 Felony Burglary.

Would you want a two time SNEAK THIEF living nearby?

_ Prof. Jonez _

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He abused a child in the commission of his 2004 Burglary,
so sayeth the Iowa Court Records.

>
> Would you want a two time SNEAK THIEF living nearby?

Who'd want Kent "the lying cunt" Wills living nearby even
without a criminal record?


Greegor

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Dec 13, 2008, 5:39:10 AM12/13/08
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> But we can't be bothered reading it.  Only you and him are reading the posts.

TNKev > wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.

PHucker > You find that endless twaddle of interest?

KW > Kevin and I are troll busters.  We enjoy
KW > making trolls look foolish.  Greg manages
KW > to make it real easy with him. For
KW > example, according to Greg, I am at least
KW > four different people named Kent Wills.
KW > That each of them has a different middle
KW > name, different dates of birth, and live in
KW > different locations never factors into it.
KW > Pointing this out was very easy of course,
KW > and lead to Greg slipping up and
KW > admitting he'd been lying the whole time.

LMAO!

A "Confidence Man" to the bitter end, aren't you Kent?

You WISH you were confused among other Kent Wills.
That doesn't make it so. Kent Bradley Wills DOB Jan 8 1969

http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768

http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1

Daam van den Billiefretter

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Greegor, ye drunk soul, thou art as loathsome as a fat toad, ye
evangelised:

<to Kent Wills>

> KW > Kevin and I are troll busters. We enjoy
> KW > making trolls look foolish.

I'm a troll. Come and make me look foolish, you blithering cuntbubble.

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krp

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"Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9ae611dd-2390-4d20...@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com...

> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the
> posts.

TNKev > wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.

PHucker > You find that endless twaddle of interest?

KW > Kevin and I are troll busters. We enjoy
KW > making trolls look foolish. Greg manages
KW > to make it real easy with him. For
KW > example, according to Greg, I am at least
KW > four different people named Kent Wills.
KW > That each of them has a different middle
KW > name, different dates of birth, and live in
KW > different locations never factors into it.
KW > Pointing this out was very easy of course,
KW > and lead to Greg slipping up and
KW > admitting he'd been lying the whole time.

< LMAO!

Kent, the consummate "Polack" has NO idea not even a glimmering of
understanding what he just admitted to. While Wills believes he is a GREAT
USENET "TROLL BUSTER" he IS, in point of FACT, admitting the HE is a troll!
You could pound his skull with a baseball bat for the next 2 millennia and
he still would never get it.

Dan Sullivan

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" krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Sex life THAT BAD eh Danny? Am I keeping you up?


Cork Soaker

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Daam van den Billiefretter wrote:
> Greegor, ye drunk soul, thou art as loathsome as a fat toad, ye
> evangelised:
>
> <to Kent Wills>
>
>> KW > Kevin and I are troll busters. We enjoy
>> KW > making trolls look foolish.
>
> I'm a troll. Come and make me look foolish, you blithering cuntbubble.
>

That seems unfair, I like cuntbubbles.

Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 13, 8:22 am, " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
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Greegor

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On Dec 13, 7:39 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 8:22 am, " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

How's Susan?

Kent Wills

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Dec 13, 2008, 10:50:28 AM12/13/08
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:04:36 GMT, " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9ae611dd-2390-4d20...@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the
>> posts.
>
>TNKev > wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>
>PHucker > You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>
>KW > Kevin and I are troll busters. We enjoy
>KW > making trolls look foolish. Greg manages
>KW > to make it real easy with him. For
>KW > example, according to Greg, I am at least
>KW > four different people named Kent Wills.
>KW > That each of them has a different middle
>KW > name, different dates of birth, and live in
>KW > different locations never factors into it.
>KW > Pointing this out was very easy of course,
>KW > and lead to Greg slipping up and
>KW > admitting he'd been lying the whole time.
>
>< LMAO!
>
> Kent, the consummate "Polack"

You've already proved yourself a bigot a few times. You don't
need to keep proving it.

>has NO idea not even a glimmering of
>understanding what he just admitted to.

That your past and possibly current illegal drug abuse makes it
easy to "trick" you into telling the truth?

>While Wills believes he is a GREAT
>USENET "TROLL BUSTER"

When, outside of your latest proof that your past, and possibly
current, illegal drug abuse, have I claimed to be a GREAT USENET
"TROLL BUSTER?" Where have I even implied it?

>he IS, in point of FACT, admitting the HE is a troll!

Only within the confines of your continued proof of your past,
and possibly current, drug abuse.

>You could pound his skull with a baseball bat for the next 2 millennia and
>he still would never get it.
>

I would need to abuse the various illegal drugs you have, and
possibly still are, for a while before I could ever hope to get the
various mental defects you display with most every post.
Why are you stalking the members of alt.friends? Is it because
of your past, and possibly current, illegal drug abuse?


--

"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll

cripple you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out,

I'll be able to walk,but you will still be a cripple."

Kent Wills

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My apologies. For some reason, I thought I was replying to Greg.
As far as I know, Pangborn has never partook of any illegal drug.
Kenneth Robert Pangborn has freely admitted to being an alcoholic
on at least two occasions, but I've not seen anything to indicate he's
ever used an illegal drug.
Again, I apologize.


On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:50:28 -0600, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
wrote:

TNKev

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Peter Hucker wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:02:51 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I apologize to Kent and alt.friends for feeding the troll, I won't say
>>>>>>> anything else to it.
>>>>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>>>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>>>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>>>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>>>>> advice he offers.
>>>>> You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>>>> irritator more than being ignored.
>>>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>>>> vermin he is.
>>> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>>>
>>
>> wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>
> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>

what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.

Peter Hucker

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:40:01 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:02:51 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hn9bj4tghsh0hlkb1...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:40:56 -0600, TNKev <TNK...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>


>>>>>>> Allowing another opportunity to prove Greg can't be honest about
>>>>>>> anything at any time, except by accident, is often a good thing. The
>>>>>>> more proof that he is psychologically UNABLE to be honest is of great
>>>>>>> benefit to anyone who may want to listen to anything he claims or take
>>>>>>> advice he offers.
>>>>>> You could always kill file the jerk, you know. Nothing irritates an
>>>>>> irritator more than being ignored.
>>>>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>>>>> vermin he is.
>>>> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>>>>
>>>
>>> wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>>
>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>>
>
> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
> his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.

Maybe he fancies him?

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Kent Wills

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:40:01 -0600, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>>> wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>>
>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>>
>
>what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
>stalk Kent....why?

I am very important in Greg's mind. So much so, that he has
followed me to friends, larson, and legal in order to get my opinions
on various matters. Heck, he went to at least two groups I hadn't
visited in at least a year (iowa and funnytown).
Greg absolutely NEEDS me.
At first it gave me a warm fuzzie to know Greg values my opinions
to the degree he does. Now it's kind of weird.

>I think he has a drug problem

He was court ordered to go into dreg rehab back in the 80's. I
don't know if he's using now, but it would explain a great deal.

>and he wants attention
>so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
> his opinions about CPS.

Greg's opinions about CPS are contrary to his opinions.
He's very **PRO** CPS. Every time he offers a suggestion as to
how to prevail against CPS, the suggestions are guaranteed to allow
CPS to win.
When someone announces that they beat CPS, he begins attacking
them. Greg wants CPS to break up families and keep the families apart
forever.

>he bombs that group with crap about how
>crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.

Greg doesn't want people discussing CPS. If they do, they might
be able to beat CPS, and Greg wants CPS to win 100% of the time.


--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Kent Wills

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Dec 13, 2008, 5:29:17 PM12/13/08
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:09 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?


>>>
>>
>> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
>> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
>> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
>> his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
>> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.
>
>Maybe he fancies him?

I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
girl from a previous relationship. The girl was removed from Greg's
presence.
Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
be a sex partner.
I'm not kidding in any way.
What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
normal.

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Dec 13, 8:22 am, " krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Poor Danny Sullivan still suffering the DELUSION that he RUNS several
newsgroups.


Peter Hucker

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:29:17 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:09 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>>>>
>>>
>>> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
>>> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
>>> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
>>> his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
>>> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.
>>
>>Maybe he fancies him?
>
> I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
> We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
> girl from a previous relationship. The girl was removed from Greg's
> presence.
> Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
> be a sex partner.
> I'm not kidding in any way.
> What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
> normal.

How old was the girl?

One day, a mom was cleaning her son's room and in the closet she found a bondage S&M magazine.
This was highly upsetting for her.
She hid the magazine until his father got home and showed it to him.
He looked at it and handed it back to her without a word.
She finally asked him, " Well what should we do about this?"
The dad looked at her and said, "Well I don't think you should spank him."

Greegor

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On Dec 14, 11:45 am, "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:29:17 -0000, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:51:09 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com>

> > wrote:
>
> >>>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>
> >>> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
> >>> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
> >>> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
> >>>   his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
> >>> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.
>
> >>Maybe he fancies him?
>
> >      I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
> >      We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
> > girl from a previous relationship.  The girl was removed from Greg's
> > presence.
> >     Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
> > be a sex partner.
> >      I'm not kidding in any way.
> >      What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
> > normal.
>
> How old was the girl?
>
> --http://www.petersparrots.com   http://www.insanevideoclips.com   http://www.petersphotos.com

>
> One day, a mom was cleaning her son's room and in the closet she found a bondage S&M magazine.
> This was highly upsetting for her.
> She hid the magazine until his father got home and showed it to him.
> He looked at it and handed it back to her without a word.
> She finally asked him, " Well what should we do about this?"
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Kent's explanation is barely 25% true, with 75% BS.

The hyena pack throws around mostly lies hoping for
corrections which provide more information to base
more lies upon.

The approach is a variation on the old
"Have you stopped beating your wife?" game.

Another recent game is to ask for a denial of a double negative.

The intent, of course, is not to obtain truth at all,
but to concoct more and more garbage.

The "recent discovery" Kent claims was about
removal of a girl who never lived in my home.

There was no investigation about her because there couldn't be.


Here is the reason Kent lies:


05771 FECR176876 (POLK) [Filings]

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PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET


http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768

Name Kent Bradley Wills
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 39
Location Interstate Compact
Offense BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE
County Of Commitment Polk
Commitment Date 01/16/2004
Duration
TDD/SDD * 01/16/2009

* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
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Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk
Probation C Felony Polk

Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003


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05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
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05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
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05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969

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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005

STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.

Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.

Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.

Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.

Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.

WIGGINS, Justice.


Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.

I. Background Facts and Proceedings.

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.

II. Scope of Review.

Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.


In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).

III. Analysis.

To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).

In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.

The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:

[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.

Id. § 702.12.

Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.

Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.

The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).

Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.

Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:

The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:

1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .

2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.

3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...

4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.

5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.

If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.

We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.

Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY

---------------------------------------------------

Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:

Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09

Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 14, 2:04 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the reason Kent lies:
>
> 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)  [Filings]

Wrong Kent Wills, moron.

Unless you can post positive proof otherwise.

But you haven't posted it in all the months you've been JO with this
claim of yours.

So I'm not expecting any.

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:45:42 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

[...]

>>>Maybe he fancies him?
>>
>> I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
>> We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
>> girl from a previous relationship. The girl was removed from Greg's
>> presence.
>> Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
>> be a sex partner.
>> I'm not kidding in any way.
>> What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
>> normal.
>
>How old was the girl?

I don't know the age of the first girl. I only know she was
pre-pubescent.
Lisa's daughter was six when Greg started. She was seven when
she was removed from the house to eliminate Greg's ability to continue
to abuse her.


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you need to know, gov!"
- Shouting George

Peter Hucker

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:57:18 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:45:42 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>Maybe he fancies him?
>>>
>>> I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
>>> We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
>>> girl from a previous relationship. The girl was removed from Greg's
>>> presence.
>>> Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
>>> be a sex partner.
>>> I'm not kidding in any way.
>>> What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
>>> normal.
>>
>>How old was the girl?
>
> I don't know the age of the first girl. I only know she was
> pre-pubescent.
> Lisa's daughter was six when Greg started. She was seven when
> she was removed from the house to eliminate Greg's ability to continue
> to abuse her.

In that case I'll agree, he is rather weird.

What I object to is for example a 19 year old having a consented relation with a 15 year old being branded as a paedophile.

How does a Unix guru have sex?
unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep

Greegor

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Dec 14, 2008, 10:09:29 PM12/14/08
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Dan, Did you see Kent's birthday page
before he had it scrubbed?

I posted the entire page once in the newsgroups.

Later I posted just his line entry and the webmaster line.

You might also remember that kent claimed that
the detailed identity was a ""Fake ID"" that he
set up to mislead his stalkers.

So if KENT set up the ""Fake ID"" why would
he be anything less than enthusiastic that
I EMBRACE his ""Fake ID"" ?

Did you like the part where Kent recently claimed he
was "assigned" the identity?

That sounds eerily like a GROUP activity
involving a false identity, and it included a birthday.

Who "assigns" identities like this and who
feels obligated enough to adopt an identity
""assigned"" to them?

I don't believe the absurd story, of course.

But the fact that KENT asserted it blatantly
shifts the burden of proof such that KENT
would have to prove he is NOT
Kent Bradlye Wills DOB Jan 8, 1969.

Since Kent supposedly adopted or was
""assigned"" the ""Fake ID"" then it should
be really easy for him to prove that claim.

You see, Dan, while the burden of proof might
once have been to prove that he IS Kent Wills,
once he announced that it was a ""Fake ID""
suddenly it became clear that he would
have no reason, no motivation whatsoever
to counter the ""Fake ID"" unless it's not fake.

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:01:56 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:57:18 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:45:42 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>Maybe he fancies him?
>>>>
>>>> I'm too far past puberty, and the wrong gender, for Greg.
>>>> We (tinw) recently learned that Greg's first wife had a little
>>>> girl from a previous relationship. The girl was removed from Greg's
>>>> presence.
>>>> Seems Greg was trying to mold her, as he was Lisa's daughter, to
>>>> be a sex partner.
>>>> I'm not kidding in any way.
>>>> What's most frightening is that Greg thinks his actions are
>>>> normal.
>>>
>>>How old was the girl?
>>
>> I don't know the age of the first girl. I only know she was
>> pre-pubescent.
>> Lisa's daughter was six when Greg started. She was seven when
>> she was removed from the house to eliminate Greg's ability to continue
>> to abuse her.
>
>In that case I'll agree, he is rather weird.

Weird isn't the word for it.

>
>What I object to is for example a 19 year old having a consented relation with a 15 year old being branded as a paedophile.

15 is a *bit* young. It's not the same as a 30 year old and a 26
year old.
Of course, my view may be tinted by the fact that when I was 15,
I couldn't get a female 15 or older to have sex with me. :)


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-- The Daleks 'Doctor Who: Journey's End'

Peter Hucker

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:34:13 PM12/15/08
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What word would you use? You may apply up to 7 adjectives preceding it.

>>What I object to is for example a 19 year old having a consented relation with a 15 year old being branded as a paedophile.
>
> 15 is a *bit* young. It's not the same as a 30 year old and a 26
> year old.

The law is too precise. If there is to be a law, it should be an age difference, not just the age of the younger one, perhaps a ratio. A 50 year old and a 16 year old is absolutley disgusting, yet perfectly legal.

> Of course, my view may be tinted by the fact that when I was 15,
> I couldn't get a female 15 or older to have sex with me. :)

The silly thing is, you could have had a relation with someone a year younger than you with no problems. Then you both got 2 years older and you've broken the law.

A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves and engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores their conversation at first, but she listens in horror as one of the men says the following: "Emma come first. Den I come. Two asses, dey come together. I come again. Two asses, dey come together again. I come again and pee twice. Then I come once-a more."
"You foul-mouthed swine," retorted the lady indignantly, "in this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public!"
"Hey, coola down lady," said the man, "Imma just tellun my friend howa tospella Mississippi."

_ Prof. Jonez _

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melody4u

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> >> --http://www.petersparrots.comhttp://www.insanevideoclips.com
> >http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20...
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

Kent Wills

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:33 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<the...@jonez.net> wrote:

>Subject: Re: Kent's motivation to DIE !!

Once again you call for my death. Everyone knows why. I married
a non-white woman. We have two children.
What lies will you present now?


Me:
It's nice that you finally agree that Rule Number One: "Prof.
Jonez is a bigot who will lie at every opportunity" is valid.

Prof. Jonez/Reality Check/assorted other nyms:
It's immutable.

Kent Wills

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:18:48 -0800 (PST), melody4u
<rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 2:10 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
>>

[...]

You need to keep in mind that Jonezie called for my family to be
murdered because my wife and children don't fit into the "white"
demographic. Jonezie is extremely racist. He no longer even tries to
pretend he is not, since the proof is undeniable (he state's it's
immutable).
He made it clear his calling for my children to be murdered
earned him a visit from law enforcement. He was aware they took notes
during the visit. This was something no one else knew until he
mentioned it.
When another poster stated that at the time she did not have a
copy of the report made by law enforcement, he said she was lying.
If she was lying, she must have had a copy. In order for her to
have had a copy, there must be an original.
The bulk of his posts over the past six months have been to attack
me. All because he thinks whites are somehow superior just because of
the amount of melanin they have.

TNKev

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maybe he has a chemical imbalance in the brain.....I'm thinking maybe
too much THC.

Peter Hucker

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:07:17 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:40:01 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:02:51 -0000, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:48 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:31:48 -0600, "Piper" <sha...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>

<snip>
>> <snip>
<snip>


>>>>>>> But this wouldn't allow me, Kevin, et al., to expose Greg for the
>>>>>>> vermin he is.
>>>>>> But we can't be bothered reading it. Only you and him are reading the posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrong...and I am sure there are lurkers.
>>>> You find that endless twaddle of interest?
>>>>
>>> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him
>>> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
>>> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
>>> his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
>>> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.
>>
>> Maybe he fancies him?
>>
>>
>
> maybe he has a chemical imbalance in the brain.....I'm thinking maybe
> too much THC.

What is THC?

The scientific name for an animal that doesn't either run from or fight its enemies is "Lunch."

Peter Hucker

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:55:02 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:33 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
> <the...@jonez.net> wrote:
>
>>Subject: Re: Kent's motivation to DIE !!
>
> Once again you call for my death. Everyone knows why. I married
> a non-white woman.

Only slightly.

> We have two children.
> What lies will you present now?
>
>
> Me:
> It's nice that you finally agree that Rule Number One: "Prof.
> Jonez is a bigot who will lie at every opportunity" is valid.
>
> Prof. Jonez/Reality Check/assorted other nyms:
> It's immutable.
>

--

If you are going to try cross-country skiing, start with a small country.

Kent Wills

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:07:17 -0600, TNKev <TN...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>>> what interests me is the fact that he has some affliction that makes him


>>> stalk Kent....why? I think he has a drug problem and he wants attention
>>> so he lashes out and argues with who ever says anything contradictory to
>>> his opinions about CPS. he bombs that group with crap about how
>>> crooked CPS is to the point that the group can't be a group.....a troll.
>>
>> Maybe he fancies him?
>>
>>
>
>maybe he has a chemical imbalance in the brain.....I'm thinking maybe
>too much THC.

It would explain a great deal.


--

Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.

Greegor

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Dec 16, 2008, 4:51:24 PM12/16/08
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Kent, What proof do you have that you
DO actually have a wife or kids?

Jonez recent post didn't mention them anyway.

It just cited your crimhist as a motivation for you to DIE.
While I don't take such a strong position, it
is NOT a racial threat just because you SAY so, Whitey!

You play the race card in vain, Kent.
Doesn't that set the cause of equality back a few decades?

While I don't think that Kent's criminal history
is a reason for him to DIE, I would not feel one
bit of remorse if his FELONIES depressed him
to the point of suicide.

Certainly Kent has had the chance to cease
his massive dishonesty, so if being "found out"
is something Kent can't live with, so be it.

Anybody whose sense of self identity depends
on calling multiple court and government
web sites fraudulent is not very balanced.

Kent Wills

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Dec 16, 2008, 4:55:26 PM12/16/08
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:15:02 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:55:02 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:33 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>> <the...@jonez.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Subject: Re: Kent's motivation to DIE !!
>>
>> Once again you call for my death. Everyone knows why. I married
>> a non-white woman.
>
>Only slightly.
>

How does one only slightly marry another?


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Dragon's Girl

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Dec 16, 2008, 5:14:33 PM12/16/08
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The tried and true all time favorite posting cry of Greegor the
Greasy..
"what proof do you have?'
Kent, you owe him some proof damnit, now chop chop, get on it.

Gin

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Dec 16, 2008, 5:28:09 PM12/16/08
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Kent wrote:
> How does one only slightly marry another?
~~~~~~~~~
I don't have an answer for this question except it reminds me of someone who
once said they were a 'little bit pregnant'!!

--
Gin in Texas
If you see typos or stray punctuation marks, Speckles is walking on my
keyb;dufh;mn!!


_ Prof. Jonez _

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Kent Wills wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:18:48 -0800 (PST), melody4u
> <rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 15, 2:10 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
>>>
>
> [...]
>
> You need to keep in mind that

Rule #1 is - Kent Wills ALWAYS Lies !


_ Prof. Jonez _

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Dec 16, 2008, 5:31:08 PM12/16/08
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Kent Wills wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:33 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
> <the...@jonez.net> wrote:
>
>> Subject: Re: Kent's motivation to DIE !!
>
> Once again you call for my death.

Once again Rule #1 is proven = Kent Wills ALWAYS Lies!!


http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768

Name Kent Bradley Wills
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969

Age 38
Location Interstate Compact (Arkansas)

Mudge

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Dec 16, 2008, 6:42:33 PM12/16/08
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On 12/16/2008 14:55:26 Kent Wills wrote:

> How does one only slightly marry another?


You go to an recycled church with an unfrocked Priest (or other
past-godly personage) perhaps ??


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Greegor

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Dec 16, 2008, 7:04:21 PM12/16/08
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Kent, Saying that you have motivation to die is
not exactly the same as calling for your death.

YOU added the racial component, and you
have repeatedly mentioned an old post
where he supposedly made racial death threats.

But when asked to pony up the old message
you have failed to provide a link to it intact and
in place.

To claim racial death threats over and over without
linking to the exact original is flat out dishonest.

This recent interaction proves exactly
why I have my doubts about your assertions.

You claim it's a racial death threat even
though actually it is neither racial nor a death threat.

Stating that your two time thieving FELONY record
might motivate you to commit suicide is
not the same as calling for your death.

Dragon's Girl

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Dec 16, 2008, 7:10:14 PM12/16/08
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I'd think someone in your position would do well to be cleaning up
their own house, both literally and figuratively, before they're all
worried about someone else's.
But then, that's been your problem all along, eh?

Greegor

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Dec 16, 2008, 7:46:39 PM12/16/08
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G > Kent, Saying that you have motivation to die is
G > not exactly the same as calling for your death.
G >
G > YOU added the racial component, and you
G > have repeatedly mentioned an old post
G > where he supposedly made racial death threats.
G >
G > But when asked to pony up the old message
G > you have failed to provide a link to it intact and
G > in place.
G >
G > To claim racial death threats over and over without
G > linking to the exact original is flat out dishonest.
G >
G > This recent interaction proves exactly
G > why I have my doubts about your assertions.
G >
G > You claim it's a racial death threat even
G > though actually it is neither racial nor a death threat.
G >
G > Stating that your two time thieving FELONY record
G > might motivate you to commit suicide is
G > not the same as calling for your death.

BW > I'd think someone in your position would do
BW > well to be cleaning up their own house,
BW > both literally and figuratively, before they're
BW > all worried about someone else's.
BW > But then, that's been your problem all along, eh?

I've been in ascps for 8 years now, sometimes
totally alone against your pack of hyenas.

Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
have been there to distract and counter attack.

I would just like to point out that your distraction
at this point is just that, and not very rational
since it has not a damn thing to do with Kent's
BS about ""racial death threats"".

Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?

Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
post this complete and utter distraction from
the subject at hand?

In any event, you really count on readers
to have a very short attention span.

Kent, please answer the questions.

melody4u

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Dec 16, 2008, 8:36:27 PM12/16/08
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You showed yourself to be a wife beating, child abusing stalker grag,
the way you have attacked people here what else on earyth did you
expect?
And you want us to cry a river for you?
You get what you give, then whine like a baby.
Go be a victim somewhere else.

> Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
> tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
> have been there to distract and counter attack.
>
> I would just like to point out that your distraction
> at this point is just that, and not very rational
> since it has not a damn thing to do with Kent's
> BS about ""racial death threats"".
>
> Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
> up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?
>
> Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
> post this complete and utter distraction from
> the subject at hand?

It must suck when your only cyber pal is ken pangborn, huh?

> In any event, you really count on readers
> to have a very short attention span.
>
> Kent, please answer the questions.

You reap what you sow asshole.

Dan Sullivan

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"Greegor" <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b3897436-fab7-46f4...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

You're a pervert/child abuser and the other members aren't.


Kent Wills

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:09 -0600, "Gin" <some...@someprairie.net>
wrote:

>Kent wrote:
>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>~~~~~~~~~
>I don't have an answer for this question except it reminds me of someone who
>once said they were a 'little bit pregnant'!!

I hope Lin isn't even a little bit pregnant.


--
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bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

Kent Wills

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:42:33 GMT, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:

>
>
>On 12/16/2008 14:55:26 Kent Wills wrote:
>
>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>
>
>You go to an recycled church with an unfrocked Priest (or other
>past-godly personage) perhaps ??

That might work.


--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Greegor

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G > I've been in ascps for 8 years now, sometimes
G > totally alone against your pack of hyenas.

melody4u > You showed yourself to be a wife beating, child abusing
stalker grag,
melody4u > the way you have attacked people here what else on earyth
did you
melody4u > expect?

Yeah, a whole pack of hyenas nipping away at me
and I'm JUST SO MEAN to you? LOL

Next you'll be saying I have you surrounded!

melody4u > And you want us to cry a river for you?
melody4u > You get what you give, then whine like a baby.
melody4u > Go be a victim somewhere else.

Declaring ownership of a newsgroup?
Dan is that you in DRAG?

G > Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
G > tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
G > have been there to distract and counter attack.
G >
G > I would just like to point out that your distraction
G > at this point is just that, and not very rational
G > since it has not a damn thing to do with Kent's
G > BS about ""racial death threats"".
G >
G > Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
G > up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?
G >
G > Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
G > post this complete and utter distraction from
G > the subject at hand?

melody4u > It must suck when your only cyber pal is ken pangborn, huh?

Everybody who disagrees with you is a conspiracy?
So truth doesn't matter right?
Just popularity and pack loyalty?
Did you think that makes you seem smart?

G > In any event, you really count on readers
G > to have a very short attention span.

G > Kent, please answer the questions.

melody4u > You reap what you sow asshole.

Anonymous BS ? Nope.

Kent Wills

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Dec 16, 2008, 9:23:12 PM12/16/08
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:29:47 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<the...@jonez.net> wrote:

>Kent Wills wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:18:48 -0800 (PST), melody4u
>> <rgc2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2:10 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> You need to keep in mind that
>

>Rule #1 is - Prof. Jonez is a bigot who will lie at every opportunity.
>

I adopted your posting style. I'm sure you'll be happy with my
doing so.

Greegor

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Dec 16, 2008, 9:53:56 PM12/16/08
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KW > Prof. Jonez/Reality Check/assorted other nyms:
KW > It's immutable.

Kent, What's your proof that these various adversaries
of yours are the same person?

Fregoli much?

Dragon's Girl

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Dec 16, 2008, 10:41:53 PM12/16/08
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On Dec 16, 6:46 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:

Awwwww.

>
> Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
> tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
> have been there to distract and counter attack.

Who's in a ringer?

>
> I would just like to point out that your distraction
> at this point is just that, and not very rational
> since it has not a damn thing to do with Kent's
> BS about ""racial death threats"".

Heh. I have taken no part in any discussion on death threats.
I'm just here while I'm recovering from my surgery to get a giggle out
of you and Ken doing the stroke and pony show.

>
> Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
> up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?

Sure he can. That's why I haven't said anything FOR him.
Duh.

>
> Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
> post this complete and utter distraction from
> the subject at hand?

No. My pack loyalty has nothing to do with my dislike for you, poster
child for CPS, and your slacker mommy.
My loyalties lie on a completely different plane doofus.

>
> In any event, you really count on readers
> to have a very short attention span.

Yeah? That's why I tell people read the archives huh?
Suuuuuuure.
Now go pat yourself on the back, you think you did a good job so you
think you deserve it.

Greegor

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Dec 16, 2008, 11:38:52 PM12/16/08
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G > Kent, Saying that you have motivation to die is
G > not exactly the same as calling for your death.

KW > Lie all your mental defects require. You're
KW > going to anyway (you can't stop yourself),
KW > so I may as well make it look like I grant
KW > you permission.

G > YOU added the racial component, and you
G > have repeatedly mentioned an old post
G > where he supposedly made racial death threats.

KW > Since Jonezie has made it clear he wants
KW > my family murdered because we're not
KW > pure white, it's clear what he meant. No
KW > amount of your rationalization or desire
KW > to defend a bigot will ever alter this
KW > simple truth.

It's not simple truth until you post a link to this
newsgroup post you claim as proof.
You usually refuse to provide the link.
The reason is because it does NOT
say what you claim it does.

G > But when asked to pony up the old message
G > you have failed to provide a link to it intact and
G > in place.

KW > Since Moe posted them, there was no need for me to do so.

Why didn't you post "them" yourself?

KW > Or does your drug damaged mind make
KW > you think my posting the same
KW > links would have greater meaning?

You ARE the one admitting you never posted the links!

Are you going to admit that you made the
assertion of racist death threats over and over?

Or do I have to rub your nose in the fact that
you asserted it so MANY times yet never
posted the link to the newsgroup post/s in
which the racist death threats were made?

G > To claim racial death threats over and over without
G > linking to the exact original is flat out dishonest.

KW > Moe already did. You replied to her posts
KW > with the links, so you can't claim you
KW > haven't had the opportunity to read them.
KW > Not unless you lie.

G > This recent interaction proves exactly
G > why I have my doubts about your assertions.

KW > You consistently prove you doubt anything
KW > that contains truth. If you wish to doubt the
KW > truth, that's fine. Your opinion isn't
KW > important outside of Usenet fodder.

Which is afterall, your WHOLE LIFE!

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en%07baa71ae59e88d92&enc_user=tO2J8xIAAAD-FV_7I-6E0McpeoqRe5_P8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg

KW > By way of contrast, my opinion of you
KW > is of such great importance that upon
KW > realizing I'd left ascps, you sought me
KW > out in other groups.
KW > Including at least two I hadn't been to in over a year.

Back when you were fighting your over
the top net addiction, you mean? LOL

G > You claim it's a racial death threat even
G > though actually it is neither racial nor a death threat.

KW > Rationalize his racist hate any way you need.

Why would I need to, since you LIED?

You have never proved "racial death threats"
and you've claimed them too many times to count.

Your LIES cause more harm to the cause of
equality than any racist!

G > Stating that your two time thieving FELONY record
G > might motivate you to commit suicide is
G > not the same as calling for your death.

KW > As you know, I've not been arrested for, let
KW > alone convicted of, a single, let alone two, felony.

It's based on your birthday that YOU posted
on a web page that YOU webmastered.

You have never proved to me that you
are not Kent Bradley Wills, DOB Jan 8, 1969.

You can't blame me for believing the birthday
that you posted to your own birthday web page.
How many YEARS was that on there, anyway?

A.
KW > Is it your past illegal drug abuse that
KW > forces you to post that which you KNOW
KW > is not true, or is it due to current illegal drug
KW > abuse?

B.
KW > Why are you stalking the members of alt.friends?

C.
KW > "If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll
KW > cripple you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out,
KW > I'll be able to walk,but you will still be a cripple."
KW > --Greg Hanson, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

What's the point of making any argument at all
when you regularly attach what you and I both
know are outright blatant LIES?

You lie so much that a person would have
to be a cult like moron to take your word for
anything.

Because you LIE so knowingly and so profusely,
YOU create a situation where your word means
nothing except to your sycophants.

You put out your BIRTHDAY and celebrated
your BIRTHDAY, but now you want to
convince me that it's NOT your birthday?

Too bad!

Greegor

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G > I've been in ascps for 8 years now, sometimes
G > totally alone against your pack of hyenas.

BW > Awwwww.

BW > Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
BW > tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
BW > have been there to distract and counter attack.

BW > Who's in a ringer?
[...]

BW > Heh.  I have taken no part in any discussion on death threats.
BW > I'm just here while I'm recovering from my surgery to get a
giggle out
BW > of you and Ken doing the stroke and pony show.

Getting a mastectomy?
You were just asking who got a tit in a ringer!

G > Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
G > up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?

BW > Sure he can.  That's why I haven't said anything FOR him.
BW > Duh.

Just 'strokin Kent eh?

G > Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
G > post this complete and utter distraction from
G > the subject at hand?

BW > No.  My pack loyalty has nothing to do with
BW > my dislike for you, poster child for CPS, and
BW > your slacker mommy. My loyalties lie on
BW > a completely different plane doofus.

Please explain! Were you on Morphine when you posted?

G > In any event, you really count on readers
G > to have a very short attention span.

BW > Yeah?  That's why I tell people read the archives huh?
BW > Suuuuuuure.
BW > Now go pat yourself on the back, you think you
BW > did a good job so you think you deserve it.

G > Kent, please answer the questions.

Dragon's Girl

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CLASSY!
You just can't help yourself, can you?


>
> G > Did you feel that Kent really couldn't stand
> G > up and answer questions HE prompted, himself?
>
> BW > Sure he can.  That's why I haven't said anything FOR him.
> BW > Duh.
>
> Just 'strokin Kent eh?

Stroking is your and Ken's jobs.

>
> G > Or was it just pack loyalty which made you
> G > post this complete and utter distraction from
> G > the subject at hand?
>
> BW > No.  My pack loyalty has nothing to do with
> BW > my dislike for you, poster child for CPS, and
> BW > your slacker mommy.   My loyalties lie on
> BW > a completely different plane doofus.
>
> Please explain!   Were you on Morphine when you posted?

Projecting?

>
> G > In any event, you really count on readers
> G > to have a very short attention span.
>
> BW > Yeah?  That's why I tell people read the archives huh?
> BW > Suuuuuuure.
> BW > Now go pat yourself on the back, you think you
> BW > did a good job so you think you deserve it.
>
> G > Kent, please answer the questions.

Just when I think you can't sink any lower you prove me wrong!
Good for you Greg. Good for you.
Would you get that warm and fuzzy feeling if I told you I had a
mastectomy?
LOL
Put your hand back on the keyboard Sparky...you'll not be yanking
yourself to my misfortunes today.


Greegor

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On Dec 16, 10:43 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2845da89-dec2-41d1...@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
>
>
> >G > Kent, Saying that you have motivation to die is
> > G > not exactly the same as calling for your death.
>
> > KW > Lie all your mental defects require. You're
> > KW > going to anyway (you can't stop yourself),
> > KW > so I may as well make it look like I grant
> > KW > you permission.
>
> > G > YOU added the racial component, and you
> > G > have repeatedly mentioned an old post
> > G > where he supposedly made racial death threats.
>
> > KW > Since Jonezie has made it clear he wants
> > KW > my family murdered because we're not
> > KW > pure white, it's clear what he meant. No
> > KW > amount of your rationalization or desire
> > KW > to defend a bigot will ever alter this
> > KW > simple truth.
>
> > It's not simple truth until you post a link to this
> > newsgroup post you claim as proof.
> > You usually refuse to provide the link.
> > The reason is because it does NOT
> > say what you claim it does.

DS > Post the message Kent is referring to, grag.
DS > We'll see who's telling the truth.

Kent's false assertion, Kent's burden of proof.

Kent's been asserting "racial death threats"
for years, even long after it was proven that
it was just his hysterical BS.

Kent wanted to add the "racial death threat"
component after Jonez' commented about
Kent's Felonies being a motivation for Kent to DIE.
Kent almost got away with it even though
there never was any "racial death threat"
in the first place.

This is an example, by the way, of how
people try to breath something into life
by sheer force of wind.

Even though Kent asserted "racial death threats"
over and over ad nauseum, Kent admitted that
HE never did post the link to the post that supposedly
made "racial death threats", leaving that
instead to his sycophant Maureen McAllister (Moe).

Why did he assert it so MANY times while
failing to post the link to the post he was
referring to? The old post he refers to does
not make racial death threats.

Kent did also try the LIE that the message
he was referring to was deleted, but
as you know, Dan, newsgroup posts do
not completely go away when deleted.

No, Dan, It is NOT my burden to provide
the link to a post Kent said made
""racial death threats"".

That is obviously Kent's burden of proof.

Didn't you WONDER why Kent asserted
so many times that Jonez made
"racial death threats"but that Kent never
posted a link to that newsgroup post?

Greegor

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Dec 17, 2008, 1:48:57 AM12/17/08
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G > Whenever one of you gets your proverbial
G > tit in a ringer, the others in your hyena pack
G > have been there to distract and counter attack.

BW > Who's in a ringer?
[...]
BW > Heh.  I have taken no part in any discussion on death threats.
BW > I'm just here while I'm recovering from my surgery to get a

BW > giggle out of you and Ken doing the stroke and pony show.

G > Getting a mastectomy?
G > You were just asking who got a tit in a ringer!

[...]

BW > Just when I think you can't sink any lower you prove me wrong!
BW > Good for you Greg.  Good for you.
BW > Would you get that warm and fuzzy feeling if I told you I had a
BW > mastectomy?
BW > LOL
BW > Put your hand back on the keyboard Sparky...you'll not be yanking
BW > yourself to my misfortunes today.

LMAO You didn't need them anyway!

http://www.rhinoperforms.com/Images/RHINO-PICTURE.jpg

Dan Sullivan

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You claim the assertion is false.

Prove it by posting the message Kent is referring to.

Or doesn't that message exist?

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Dragon's Girl wrote:
> On Dec 16, 6:04 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kent, Saying that you have motivation to die is
>> not exactly the same as calling for your death.
>>
>> YOU added the racial component, and you
>> have repeatedly mentioned an old post
>> where he supposedly made racial death threats.
>>
>> But when asked to pony up the old message
>> you have failed to provide a link to it intact and
>> in place.
>>
>> To claim racial death threats over and over without
>> linking to the exact original is flat out dishonest.
>>
>> This recent interaction proves exactly
>> why I have my doubts about your assertions.
>>
>> You claim it's a racial death threat even
>> though actually it is neither racial nor a death threat.
>>
>> Stating that your two time thieving FELONY record
>> might motivate you to commit suicide is
>> not the same as calling for your death.
>
> I'd think <snip>

No, you don't.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 17, 2008, 2:02:02 PM12/17/08
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I meant slightly non-white.

--
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So, Donald Rumsfeld is briefing George Bush in the Oval Office.
"Oh and finally, sir, three Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq today."
Bush goes pale, his jaw hanging open in stunned disbelief. He buries his
face in his hands, muttering "My God...My God".
"Mr. President," says Cheney, "we lose soldiers all the time, and it's
terrible. But I've never seen you so upset. What's the matter?"
Bush looks up and says..."How many is a Brazilian?"

Peter Hucker

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Dec 17, 2008, 2:38:45 PM12/17/08
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:28:09 -0000, Gin <some...@someprairie.net> wrote:

> Kent wrote:
>> How does one only slightly marry another?
> ~~~~~~~~~
> I don't have an answer for this question except it reminds me of someone who
> once said they were a 'little bit pregnant'!!

That mkes sense. It's a gradual process. You don't become a beached whale overnight!

Auctioneer, n. The man who proclaims with a hammer that he has picked a pocket with his tongue.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 17, 2008, 2:39:15 PM12/17/08
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:04:39 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:09 -0600, "Gin" <some...@someprairie.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Kent wrote:
>>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>>~~~~~~~~~
>>I don't have an answer for this question except it reminds me of someone who
>>once said they were a 'little bit pregnant'!!
>
> I hope Lin isn't even a little bit pregnant.

Why are you hurriedly rummaging through the contraceptives drawer?

Bakers trade bread recipes on a kneadtoknow basis.

Peter Hucker

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Dec 17, 2008, 2:39:36 PM12/17/08
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:42:33 -0000, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:

>
>
> On 12/16/2008 14:55:26 Kent Wills wrote:
>
>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>
>
> You go to an recycled church with an unfrocked Priest (or other
> past-godly personage) perhaps ??

Unfrocked? Is that a nudist church?

Mrs. Jones went to see her doctor.
When he inquired about her complaint she replied that she suffered from a discharge.
He instructed her to get undressed and lie down on the examining table. She did so.
The doctor put on rubber gloves and began to massage her private parts.
After a couple of minutes he asked, "How does that feel?"
"Wonderful," she replied, "but the discharge is from the ear."

Kent Wills

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Dec 17, 2008, 4:47:10 PM12/17/08
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:02:02 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:55:26 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:15:02 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:55:02 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:33 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>> <the...@jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: Kent's motivation to DIE !!
>>>>
>>>> Once again you call for my death. Everyone knows why. I married
>>>> a non-white woman.
>>>
>>>Only slightly.
>>>
>>
>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>
>I meant slightly non-white.

While Hispanics are Caucasian, they are not viewed as white. At
least not in regards to racial demographics in the U.S.
Clearly this isn't an issue with me. I wouldn't be with her if
it were.

Kent Wills

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:39:15 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:04:39 -0000, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:09 -0600, "Gin" <some...@someprairie.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Kent wrote:
>>>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>>>~~~~~~~~~
>>>I don't have an answer for this question except it reminds me of someone who
>>>once said they were a 'little bit pregnant'!!
>>
>> I hope Lin isn't even a little bit pregnant.
>
>Why are you hurriedly rummaging through the contraceptives drawer?

I have a lot of free time :-)

Kent Wills

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:39:36 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:42:33 -0000, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:


>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2008 14:55:26 Kent Wills wrote:
>>
>>> How does one only slightly marry another?
>>
>>
>> You go to an recycled church with an unfrocked Priest (or other
>> past-godly personage) perhaps ??
>
>Unfrocked? Is that a nudist church?

They're the best kind :)
I think he meant defrocked.


--

Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.

Peter Hucker

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Odd, I'd class them as a very well tanned white person. They're nowhere near black like Africans.

A priest, a doctor, and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group of golfers.
The engineer fumed, "What's with those blokes? We must have been waiting for fifteen minutes!"
The doctor chimed in, "I don't know, but I've never seen such inept golf!"
The priest said, "Here comes the greens keeper. Let's have a word with him."
He said, "Hello, George! what's wrong with that group ahead of us? They're rather slow, aren't they?"
The greens keeper replied, "Oh, yes. That's a group of blind fire fighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last year, so we always let them play for free anytime."
The group fell silent for a moment.
The priest said, "That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for them tonight."
The doctor said, "Good idea. I'm going to contact my ophthalmologist colleague and see if there's anything he can do for them."
The engineer said, "Why can't they play at night?"

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