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Se eu já havia achado engraçado quando o nosso amigo se deu ao trabalho de pesquisar minha vida o bastante para descobrir o AINN e relacioná-lo com a entrevista que dei ao PBS, eu quase caí da cadeira de tanto rir quando o cara resolveu analisar a maneira que eu e meu irmão escrevemos para chegar à insólita conclusão de que... eu e murilão somos a mesma pessoa. :D

"Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online, no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive."


Pena que o blog do cara só aceita comentários de pessoas cadastradas, provavelmente seus amigos e seus outros 40 leitores. Eu realmente queria elogiá-lo e convidá-lo ao AINN. O cara é um profissional do nonsense.

Por sinal, "Mr. President Squid" foi o máximo.
haahhhhaahahahahahahha


http://cbrayton.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/pbs-orkut-according-to-the-imaginary-news-nonsense-agency/#more-3147

PBS: "The Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency"

Posted by Colin Brayton on June 17th, 2007


State of the art infographics from the Agência Estado (Brazil)

PBS recognizes that the producer of informational content deals neither in absolute truth nor in absolute objectivity. Information is by nature fragmentary; the honesty of a program, Web site, or other content can never be measured by a precise, scientifically verifiable formula. Therefore, content quality must depend, at bottom, on the producer's professionalism, independence, honesty, integrity, sound judgment, common sense, open mindedness, and intention to inform, not to propagandize.PBS Editorial Standards

Yes, but lack of honesty is quite easy to spot.

Identifying conflicts of interest — who pays who? to do what? — is, for example, a pretty good crude sorting device when it comes to weeding out flagrant, gabbling lack of objectivity, impartiality, freedom from deliberate and calculated bias, or whatever you want to call it.

Metaphysics aside, the quest to maximize the printing of facts and minimize the printing of non-facts — within the realm of the humanly possible — is not the same as the metaphysical question of capital-T Truth.

I find.

You?

More case studies in innovation journalism.

Item: Orkut, Friendster Get Second Chance Overseas | PBS

What does the partially taxpayer-funded gabbling nonsense purveyor Mark Glaser — 'Bloggers Leading Mainstream Journalists in Transparency | PBS' — have to say about Google's Orkut "social networking" site?

Guest blogger Jennifer Woodward Materazo of the Latino Marketing Report — "an independent communications consultant based in San Francisco, CA, USA" — interviews "Brazilian tech blogger" Daniel Duende Carvalho on the subject.

Duende — the name means "gnome" or "fairy" — googles up as the moderator of a Google Group called The Imaginary News and Nonsense Agency:

Need I say more?

The source of the breathless discovery, by a "citizen journalist" who is actually (also) a marketing consultant, that Brazilians are incredibly into Orkut — is this news? — is someone who publicly brands himself as a fictional purveyor of nonsense.

What, is the man high or something?

Possibly.

He says, after all, that he's a friend of Global Voices Online's Brazil editor, Jose Murilo , who in turn identifies himself as "worldwide Webmaster for the Santo Daime community" and "strategic information manager" for Brazil's Ministry of Culture.

Google donates to the Berkman Center for the Intel-Inside Society, and its chief lobbyist (last I checked) is the former No. 2 at the Berkman Center's Open Economies Institute, which is funded by Hewlett-Packard and run by a former Hewlett-Packard consultant.

In Brazil, this is what you call a maracutaia.

I repeat: in authoritarian banana republics, journalism and (political) marketing are the same thing.

By statute.

See also

So is PBS now the public broadcasting system of a banana republic?

And who are Ms. Woodward's clients, by the way?

Her professional Web site does not say.

I really think the PBS Ombudsman should ask her.

Compare: "The Sweet Teat of Junket Whoredom": The Public Editor on "Fighting Toadies."

Anyway, so what kind of fictional nonsense is purveyed here?

What, you don't think I would actually waste my time reading this fictional nonsense?

I have what I consider to be reliable sources on Orkut and related stories from the professional Brazilian tech press, as well as (sane) independent (professional and amateur) journalists.

Look, as a property-taxpayer in both Brooklyn and Brazil, I think I have a right to know: What exactly are my taxpayer petrorubles being spent on?

By placing its logo at the end of a program or hosting a Web site, PBS makes itself accountable for the quality and integrity of the content. Editorial integrity encompasses not only the concerns addressed in these Standards and Policies, but also the concerns about improper funder influence and commercialism addressed in PBS's funding and production guidelines. If PBS concludes that content fails to satisfy PBS's overall standards of quality or any applicable journalistic standard or production practice, PBS may reject the content for distribution.PBS Editorial Standards

Or it may not.

Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online , no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive.

Still, a hypothesis to tuck away for later.

Look, we all understand this from reading our Karl Popper, right?

Objectivity is a "limit" concept. It's something we aspire to in the long term even if we constantly fail to realize it in the immediate present.

See, because we human — all too human — individuals suffer from cognitive limitations when operating our own, we band together to try to overcome them through a collective process known as the "scientific method."

And the "scientific method," while it remains an open-ended venture, subject to revision in the face of new evidence, actually has a pretty good track record.

My wife, for example, is just about to get aboard — mirabile dictu!a huge freaking machine that flies!

It will carry her from the South American jungles to La Guardia airport in less than 10 hours. She will be forced to watch "Shrek III" several times over in order, chew nicotine gum, and drink little bottles of Scotch to alleviate her claustrophobia, but by God, it works.

There may just be something to that Bernouilli's Equation after all!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/2/c/82cf4ee7e0214e063ea7d24787380f8a.png

And it wasn't invented by phlogiston theorists — or Moonies — I can tell you that.


How to get a driver's license, how to get on Orkut, how to work with MP3s, how to work with Microsoft Excel, how to lose that hick accent of yours, Eliza Doolittle, and join the human race, Nietzche's The Antichrist: All $R5 (US$2.34) titles in the book vending machines installed in the São Paulo subway system. Beyond Good & Evil is also on offer. Though priced to move, these items generally don't, I observe.

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Daniel Duende Carvalho

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Eu não resistí...
hahhahhaahahah


http://newalriadaexpress.blogspot.com/2007/06/descoberta-bombstica.html

Descoberta bombástica.

Meu novo fã Colin Brayton, que também é fã da AINN, acaba de fazer uma descoberta bombástica!

Ao analisar, em seu comentário sobre a entrevista que dei à PBS , a minha escrita e compará-la com a do meu irmão Zé Murilo, ele chegou à chocante conclusão de que somos a mesma pessoa.

"Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online, no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive."

(C. Brayton em seu fantástico post " The Imaginary News and Nonsense Agency")

Tendo em vista que o senhor Brayton é um renomado analista político e uma pessoa de notável lucidez em seus comentários, fui até o espelho do banheiro para me certificar de que eu sou eu mesmo, e não meu irmão, e vice versa, em conjunto, em uma só pessoa.

Depois de cinco segundos me olhando no espelho, meu senso de identidade foi parcialmente recuperado. De qualquer forma, eu gostaria de ler algumas reafirmações de meus leitores a respeito de minha identidade.

Meus amigos, por favor, me digam: Eu sou eu mesmo? :)


p.s. agora fiquei preocupado. será que Cintia Moscovich na verdade é Clarice Lispector? Medo! :D

p.p.s. infelizmente não pude deixar um comentário no blog do Sr. Brayton elogiando seu talento e perspicácia. ele seria uma grande adição ao time do AINN. :D~
postado por Daniel Duende às 6/19/2007 06:57:00 AM

On 6/19/07, Daniel Duende Carvalho <daniel....@gmail.com> wrote:
Se eu já havia achado engraçado quando o nosso amigo se deu ao trabalho de pesquisar minha vida o bastante para descobrir o AINN e relacioná-lo com a entrevista que dei ao PBS, eu quase caí da cadeira de tanto rir quando o cara resolveu analisar a maneira que eu e meu irmão escrevemos para chegar à insólita conclusão de que... eu e murilão somos a mesma pessoa. :D

"Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online, no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive."


Pena que o blog do cara só aceita comentários de pessoas cadastradas, provavelmente seus amigos e seus outros 40 leitores. Eu realmente queria elogiá-lo e convidá-lo ao AINN. O cara é um profissional do nonsense.

Por sinal, "Mr. President Squid" foi o máximo.
haahhhhaahahahahahahha


http://cbrayton.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/pbs-orkut-according-to-the-imaginary-news-nonsense-agency/#more-3147

PBS: "The Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency"

Posted by Colin Brayton on June 17th, 2007


State of the art infographics from the Agência Estado (Brazil)

PBS recognizes that the producer of informational content deals neither in absolute truth nor in absolute objectivity. Information is by nature fragmentary; the honesty of a program, Web site, or other content can never be measured by a precise, scientifically verifiable formula. Therefore, content quality must depend, at bottom, on the producer's professionalism, independence, honesty, integrity, sound judgment, common sense, open mindedness, and intention to inform, not to propagandize. -PBS Editorial Standards

Yes, but lack of honesty is quite easy to spot.

Identifying conflicts of interest -- who pays who? to do what? -- is, for example, a pretty good crude sorting device when it comes to weeding out flagrant, gabbling lack of objectivity, impartiality, freedom from deliberate and calculated bias, or whatever you want to call it.

Metaphysics aside, the quest to maximize the printing of facts and minimize the printing of non-facts -- within the realm of the humanly possible -- is not the same as the metaphysical question of capital-T Truth.

What does the partially taxpayer-funded gabbling nonsense purveyor Mark Glaser -- 'Bloggers Leading Mainstream Journalists in Transparency | PBS' -- have to say about Google's Orkut "social networking" site?

Guest blogger Jennifer Woodward Materazo of the Latino Marketing Report -- "an independent communications consultant based in San Francisco, CA, USA" -- interviews "Brazilian tech blogger" Daniel Duende Carvalho on the subject.

Duende -- the name means "gnome" or "fairy" -- googles up as the moderator of a Google Group called The Imaginary News and Nonsense Agency:

Need I say more?

The source of the breathless discovery, by a "citizen journalist" who is actually (also) a marketing consultant, that Brazilians are incredibly into Orkut -- is this news? -- is someone who publicly brands himself as a fictional purveyor of nonsense.

What, is the man high or something?

Possibly.

He says, after all, that he's a friend of Global Voices Online's Brazil editor, Jose Murilo , who in turn identifies himself as "worldwide Webmaster for the Santo Daime community" and "strategic information manager" for Brazil's Ministry of Culture.

Google donates to the Berkman Center for the Intel-Inside Society, and its chief lobbyist (last I checked) is the former No. 2 at the Berkman Center's Open Economies Institute, which is funded by Hewlett-Packard and run by a former Hewlett-Packard consultant.

In Brazil, this is what you call a maracutaia.

I repeat: in authoritarian banana republics, journalism and (political) marketing are the same thing.

By statute.

See also

So is PBS now the public broadcasting system of a banana republic?

And who are Ms. Woodward's clients, by the way?

Her professional Web site does not say.

I really think the PBS Ombudsman should ask her.

Compare: "The Sweet Teat of Junket Whoredom": The Public Editor on "Fighting Toadies."

Anyway, so what kind of fictional nonsense is purveyed here?

What, you don't think I would actually waste my time reading this fictional nonsense?

I have what I consider to be reliable sources on Orkut and related stories from the professional Brazilian tech press, as well as (sane) independent (professional and amateur) journalists.

Look, as a property-taxpayer in both Brooklyn and Brazil, I think I have a right to know: What exactly are my taxpayer petrorubles being spent on?

By placing its logo at the end of a program or hosting a Web site, PBS makes itself accountable for the quality and integrity of the content. Editorial integrity encompasses not only the concerns addressed in these Standards and Policies, but also the concerns about improper funder influence and commercialism addressed in PBS's funding and production guidelines. If PBS concludes that content fails to satisfy PBS's overall standards of quality or any applicable journalistic standard or production practice, PBS may reject the content for distribution. -PBS Editorial Standards

Or it may not.

Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online , no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive.

Still, a hypothesis to tuck away for later.

Look, we all understand this from reading our Karl Popper, right?

Objectivity is a "limit" concept. It's something we aspire to in the long term even if we constantly fail to realize it in the immediate present.

See, because we human -- all too human -- individuals suffer from cognitive limitations when operating our own, we band together to try to overcome them through a collective process known as the "scientific method."

And the "scientific method," while it remains an open-ended venture, subject to revision in the face of new evidence, actually has a pretty good track record.

My wife, for example, is just about to get aboard -- mirabile dictu! -- a huge freaking machine that flies!

It will carry her from the South American jungles to La Guardia airport in less than 10 hours. She will be forced to watch "Shrek III" several times over in order, chew nicotine gum, and drink little bottles of Scotch to alleviate her claustrophobia, but by God, it works.

There may just be something to that Bernouilli's Equation after all!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/2/c/82cf4ee7e0214e063ea7d24787380f8a.png

And it wasn't invented by phlogiston theorists -- or Moonies -- I can tell you that.


How to get a driver's license, how to get on Orkut, how to work with MP3s, how to work with Microsoft Excel, how to lose that hick accent of yours, Eliza Doolittle, and join the human race, Nietzche's The Antichrist: All $R5 (US$2.34) titles in the book vending machines installed in the São Paulo subway system. Beyond Good & Evil is also on offer. Though priced to move, these items generally don't, I observe.

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Isto sim é uma notícia absurda.
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Se eu já havia achado engraçado quando o nosso amigo se deu ao trabalho de pesquisar minha vida o bastante para descobrir o AINN e relacioná-lo com a entrevista que dei ao PBS, eu quase caí da cadeira de tanto rir quando o cara resolveu analisar a maneira que eu e meu irmão escrevemos para chegar à insólita conclusão de que... eu e murilão somos a mesma pessoa. :D

"Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online, no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive."


Pena que o blog do cara só aceita comentários de pessoas cadastradas, provavelmente seus amigos e seus outros 40 leitores. Eu realmente queria elogiá-lo e convidá-lo ao AINN. O cara é um profissional do nonsense.

Por sinal, "Mr. President Squid" foi o máximo.
haahhhhaahahahahahahha


http://cbrayton.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/pbs-orkut-according-to-the-imaginary-news-nonsense-agency/#more-3147

PBS: "The Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency"

Posted by Colin Brayton on June 17th, 2007


State of the art infographics from the Agência Estado (Brazil)

PBS recognizes that the producer of informational content deals neither in absolute truth nor in absolute objectivity. Information is by nature fragmentary; the honesty of a program, Web site, or other content can never be measured by a precise, scientifically verifiable formula. Therefore, content quality must depend, at bottom, on the producer's professionalism, independence, honesty, integrity, sound judgment, common sense, open mindedness, and intention to inform, not to propagandize. -PBS Editorial Standards

Yes, but lack of honesty is quite easy to spot.

Identifying conflicts of interest -- who pays who? to do what? -- is, for example, a pretty good crude sorting device when it comes to weeding out flagrant, gabbling lack of objectivity, impartiality, freedom from deliberate and calculated bias, or whatever you want to call it.

Metaphysics aside, the quest to maximize the printing of facts and minimize the printing of non-facts -- within the realm of the humanly possible -- is not the same as the metaphysical question of capital-T Truth.

What does the partially taxpayer-funded gabbling nonsense purveyor Mark Glaser -- 'Bloggers Leading Mainstream Journalists in Transparency | PBS' -- have to say about Google's Orkut "social networking" site?

Guest blogger Jennifer Woodward Materazo of the Latino Marketing Report -- "an independent communications consultant based in San Francisco, CA, USA" -- interviews "Brazilian tech blogger" Daniel Duende Carvalho on the subject.

Duende -- the name means "gnome" or "fairy" -- googles up as the moderator of a Google Group called The Imaginary News and Nonsense Agency:

Need I say more?

The source of the breathless discovery, by a "citizen journalist" who is actually (also) a marketing consultant, that Brazilians are incredibly into Orkut -- is this news? -- is someone who publicly brands himself as a fictional purveyor of nonsense.

What, is the man high or something?

Possibly.

He says, after all, that he's a friend of Global Voices Online's Brazil editor, Jose Murilo , who in turn identifies himself as "worldwide Webmaster for the Santo Daime community" and "strategic information manager" for Brazil's Ministry of Culture.

Google donates to the Berkman Center for the Intel-Inside Society, and its chief lobbyist (last I checked) is the former No. 2 at the Berkman Center's Open Economies Institute, which is funded by Hewlett-Packard and run by a former Hewlett-Packard consultant.

In Brazil, this is what you call a maracutaia.

I repeat: in authoritarian banana republics, journalism and (political) marketing are the same thing.

By statute.

See also

So is PBS now the public broadcasting system of a banana republic?

And who are Ms. Woodward's clients, by the way?

Her professional Web site does not say.

I really think the PBS Ombudsman should ask her.

Compare: "The Sweet Teat of Junket Whoredom": The Public Editor on "Fighting Toadies."

Anyway, so what kind of fictional nonsense is purveyed here?

What, you don't think I would actually waste my time reading this fictional nonsense?

I have what I consider to be reliable sources on Orkut and related stories from the professional Brazilian tech press, as well as (sane) independent (professional and amateur) journalists.

Look, as a property-taxpayer in both Brooklyn and Brazil, I think I have a right to know: What exactly are my taxpayer petrorubles being spent on?

By placing its logo at the end of a program or hosting a Web site, PBS makes itself accountable for the quality and integrity of the content. Editorial integrity encompasses not only the concerns addressed in these Standards and Policies, but also the concerns about improper funder influence and commercialism addressed in PBS's funding and production guidelines. If PBS concludes that content fails to satisfy PBS's overall standards of quality or any applicable journalistic standard or production practice, PBS may reject the content for distribution. -PBS Editorial Standards

Or it may not.

Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online , no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive.

Still, a hypothesis to tuck away for later.

Look, we all understand this from reading our Karl Popper, right?

Objectivity is a "limit" concept. It's something we aspire to in the long term even if we constantly fail to realize it in the immediate present.

See, because we human -- all too human -- individuals suffer from cognitive limitations when operating our own, we band together to try to overcome them through a collective process known as the "scientific method."

And the "scientific method," while it remains an open-ended venture, subject to revision in the face of new evidence, actually has a pretty good track record.

My wife, for example, is just about to get aboard -- mirabile dictu! -- a huge freaking machine that flies!

It will carry her from the South American jungles to La Guardia airport in less than 10 hours. She will be forced to watch "Shrek III" several times over in order, chew nicotine gum, and drink little bottles of Scotch to alleviate her claustrophobia, but by God, it works.

There may just be something to that Bernouilli's Equation after all!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/2/c/82cf4ee7e0214e063ea7d24787380f8a.png

And it wasn't invented by phlogiston theorists -- or Moonies -- I can tell you that.


How to get a driver's license, how to get on Orkut, how to work with MP3s, how to work with Microsoft Excel, how to lose that hick accent of yours, Eliza Doolittle, and join the human race, Nietzche's The Antichrist: All $R5 (US$2.34) titles in the book vending machines installed in the São Paulo subway system. Beyond Good & Evil is also on offer. Though priced to move, these items generally don't, I observe.

This entry was posted on Sunday, June 17th, 2007 at 4:52 pm and is filed under Financial Press . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

Clara Duarte

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HAHAHAHA!!!
Na verdade, verdinho, vc e o murilo são a mesma pessoa, só que ele veio do futuro, ou seja, é você mais velho. E com filhos.
Sério, esse cara merecia mesmo vir aqui para a AINN.
 
AH! Duende, meu velho, é um sinal enorme de reconhecimeno quando começam a contestar sua identidade. Congratulations!
 
Cla
 
p.s. Hoje é um dia nonsense. Neste minuto meu pai está latindo para a minha cachorra em vários tons diferentes na tentativa de conversar com ela. Deve ser de família, eu ainda não superei meu hábito de latir para os cães na rua, e conversava com minha galinha de estimação...
p.s. escrevo isso supondo que todos aqui sejam esquisitos o bastante para não se surpreender com isso.

 
2007/6/19, Daniel Duende Carvalho <daniel....@gmail.com>:
Se eu já havia achado engraçado quando o nosso amigo se deu ao trabalho de pesquisar minha vida o bastante para descobrir o AINN e relacioná-lo com a entrevista que dei ao PBS, eu quase caí da cadeira de tanto rir quando o cara resolveu analisar a maneira que eu e meu irmão escrevemos para chegar à insólita conclusão de que... eu e murilão somos a mesma pessoa. :D

"Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online, no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive."


Pena que o blog do cara só aceita comentários de pessoas cadastradas, provavelmente seus amigos e seus outros 40 leitores. Eu realmente queria elogiá-lo e convidá-lo ao AINN. O cara é um profissional do nonsense.

Por sinal, "Mr. President Squid" foi o máximo.
haahhhhaahahahahahahha


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PBS: "The Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency"

Posted by Colin Brayton on June 17th, 2007


State of the art infographics from the Agência Estado (Brazil)

PBS recognizes that the producer of informational content deals neither in absolute truth nor in absolute objectivity. Information is by nature fragmentary; the honesty of a program, Web site, or other content can never be measured by a precise, scientifically verifiable formula. Therefore, content quality must depend, at bottom, on the producer's professionalism, independence, honesty, integrity, sound judgment, common sense, open mindedness, and intention to inform, not to propagandize. -PBS Editorial Standards

Yes, but lack of honesty is quite easy to spot.

Identifying conflicts of interest -- who pays who? to do what? -- is, for example, a pretty good crude sorting device when it comes to weeding out flagrant, gabbling lack of objectivity, impartiality, freedom from deliberate and calculated bias, or whatever you want to call it.

Metaphysics aside, the quest to maximize the printing of facts and minimize the printing of non-facts -- within the realm of the humanly possible -- is not the same as the metaphysical question of capital-T Truth.

What does the partially taxpayer-funded gabbling nonsense purveyor Mark Glaser -- 'Bloggers Leading Mainstream Journalists in Transparency | PBS' -- have to say about Google's Orkut "social networking" site?

Guest blogger Jennifer Woodward Materazo of the Latino Marketing Report -- "an independent communications consultant based in San Francisco, CA, USA" -- interviews "Brazilian tech blogger" Daniel Duende Carvalho on the subject.

Duende -- the name means "gnome" or "fairy" -- googles up as the moderator of a Google Group called The Imaginary News and Nonsense Agency:

Need I say more?

The source of the breathless discovery, by a "citizen journalist" who is actually (also) a marketing consultant, that Brazilians are incredibly into Orkut -- is this news? -- is someone who publicly brands himself as a fictional purveyor of nonsense.

What, is the man high or something?

Possibly.

He says, after all, that he's a friend of Global Voices Online's Brazil editor, Jose Murilo , who in turn identifies himself as "worldwide Webmaster for the Santo Daime community" and "strategic information manager" for Brazil's Ministry of Culture.

Google donates to the Berkman Center for the Intel-Inside Society, and its chief lobbyist (last I checked) is the former No. 2 at the Berkman Center's Open Economies Institute, which is funded by Hewlett-Packard and run by a former Hewlett-Packard consultant.

In Brazil, this is what you call a maracutaia.

I repeat: in authoritarian banana republics, journalism and (political) marketing are the same thing.

By statute.

See also

So is PBS now the public broadcasting system of a banana republic?

And who are Ms. Woodward's clients, by the way?

Her professional Web site does not say.

I really think the PBS Ombudsman should ask her.

Compare: "The Sweet Teat of Junket Whoredom": The Public Editor on "Fighting Toadies."

Anyway, so what kind of fictional nonsense is purveyed here?

What, you don't think I would actually waste my time reading this fictional nonsense?

I have what I consider to be reliable sources on Orkut and related stories from the professional Brazilian tech press, as well as (sane) independent (professional and amateur) journalists.

Look, as a property-taxpayer in both Brooklyn and Brazil, I think I have a right to know: What exactly are my taxpayer petrorubles being spent on?

By placing its logo at the end of a program or hosting a Web site, PBS makes itself accountable for the quality and integrity of the content. Editorial integrity encompasses not only the concerns addressed in these Standards and Policies, but also the concerns about improper funder influence and commercialism addressed in PBS's funding and production guidelines. If PBS concludes that content fails to satisfy PBS's overall standards of quality or any applicable journalistic standard or production practice, PBS may reject the content for distribution. -PBS Editorial Standards

Or it may not.

Postscript: Reading through the forums at the Imaginary News & Nonsense Agency, I believe there is evidence for supposing that Mr. "Duende" is actually Murilo himself.

Mr. Duende writes, recommending Murilo's post:

Eu estava querendo fazer um post sobre o Global Voices há bastante tempo. Mas ninguém melhor para blogar sobre o assunto do que o próprio editor de língua portuguesa do hyper-bridgeblog.

Mr. Murilo's post begins:

Há tempos venho querendo escrever um post aqui no ecodigital dedicado ao projeto Global Voices Online , no qual venho desempenhando a função de editor de língua portuguesa desde maio de 2006.

The parallel wording is striking, though not, of course, conclusive.

Still, a hypothesis to tuck away for later.

Look, we all understand this from reading our Karl Popper, right?

Objectivity is a "limit" concept. It's something we aspire to in the long term even if we constantly fail to realize it in the immediate present.

See, because we human -- all too human -- individuals suffer from cognitive limitations when operating our own, we band together to try to overcome them through a collective process known as the "scientific method."

And the "scientific method," while it remains an open-ended venture, subject to revision in the face of new evidence, actually has a pretty good track record.

My wife, for example, is just about to get aboard -- mirabile dictu! -- a huge freaking machine that flies!

It will carry her from the South American jungles to La Guardia airport in less than 10 hours. She will be forced to watch "Shrek III" several times over in order, chew nicotine gum, and drink little bottles of Scotch to alleviate her claustrophobia, but by God, it works.

There may just be something to that Bernouilli's Equation after all!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/2/c/82cf4ee7e0214e063ea7d24787380f8a.png

And it wasn't invented by phlogiston theorists -- or Moonies -- I can tell you that.


How to get a driver's license, how to get on Orkut, how to work with MP3s, how to work with Microsoft Excel, how to lose that hick accent of yours, Eliza Doolittle, and join the human race, Nietzche's The Antichrist: All $R5 (US$2.34) titles in the book vending machines installed in the São Paulo subway system. Beyond Good & Evil is also on offer. Though priced to move, these items generally don't, I observe.

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Daniel Duende Carvalho

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Jun 19, 2007, 5:14:32 PM6/19/07
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On 6/19/07, Clara Duarte <clarinh...@gmail.com> wrote:
HAHAHAHA!!!
Na verdade, verdinho, vc e o murilo são a mesma pessoa, só que ele veio do futuro, ou seja, é você mais velho. E com filhos.
Sério, esse cara merecia mesmo vir aqui para a AINN.

hahahahahahaah... não é uma delícia de post? :D
eu adorei. pena que não o pude elogiar lá no blog dele.
por isso, tive que fazer um post homenageando a perspicácia do doutor em retórica e comentarista político :)

AH! Duende, meu velho, é um sinal enorme de reconhecimeno quando começam a contestar sua identidade. Congratulations!

Hahaahahahah... com certeza.
fiquei lisongeado. :D

Cla
 
p.s. Hoje é um dia nonsense. Neste minuto meu pai está latindo para a minha cachorra em vários tons diferentes na tentativa de conversar com ela. Deve ser de família, eu ainda não superei meu hábito de latir para os cães na rua, e conversava com minha galinha de estimação...

hahahahaahahahahaa.... deve ser de familia!
mas eu realmente não imagino o bigode
tendo estes átimos de glamour. :D
deve ser fantástico! :D

p.s. escrevo isso supondo que todos aqui sejam esquisitos o bastante para não se surpreender com isso.

eu acho muito normal :D
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