[HumJanenge] Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators
vishalkudchadkar
Dear All,
The email below was brought to our notice. The email has NOT been sent by the owners/moderators of Humjanenge. There is NO plan by us to move to GoogleGroups. The group started by Masterji will remain as a Humjanenge yahoogroup. This is "PMK 1504 <humjanen...@gmail.com>" email address has been created by someone other than the owners/moderators of Humjanenge yahoogroup in probably an attempt to mislead the members of this group.
Please be wary of such emails.
Regards,
Moderators, HJ
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From: PMK 1504 <humjanen...@gmail.com>
To : HumJanenge HumJa...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HumJanenge] RTI Act to be amended to extend CIC's term
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:20:33 IST
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The nodal department of personnel and training has recommended to the
Government of India that the path breaking Right to Information Act be
amended to allow a minimum 2 year term for the country's Chief
Information Commissioner.
The amendment will align the posts of Information Commissioners to the
Election Commissioners. The Election Commissioners enjoy a term of 6
years in officer or till 65 years (extendable by 1 year if appointed
as Chief information Commissioner).
The first beneficiary of this amendment is expected to be the present
Chief Information Commissioner Shri Anugraha Narayan Tiwari who
previously headed up the nodal department recommending the amendment.
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vishalkudchadkar
Krishnaraj Rao
Please clarify asap.
Krish
Vijay
[Moderator's note:
The settings have not been changed by the moderator. Any member from the group receiving the posts can set up their email such that the emails are posted automatically to the HJ googlegroup. Hence there is not much we can do from our end. Suggestions though are welcome.
The moderators are:
E. C. Sridhar
Veeresh Malik
Anu Rao
Sachin Padwal
-vishal]
Dear Vishal,
http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge
<http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge> This group has been created
in October 2010 and has only 130 posts till date. All the messages
posted in this group are are also available there. I have strong belief
that one of the moderator of this group would have changed setting of
this group. This is possible only by imersonators who are abusing,
accusing others and acting as agents of PIOS, and FAAs. Please provide
me the names and Ids of moderators of this group in a private mails. WeE
have to save this group from such anti RTI elements.
with best wishes,
Vijay
--- In HumJa...@yahoogroups.co.in, "vishalkudchadkar" <v_kudz@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> The email below was brought to our notice. The email has NOT been sent
by the owners/moderators of Humjanenge. There is NO plan by us to move
to GoogleGroups. The group started by Masterji will remain as a
Humjanenge yahoogroup. This is "PMK 1504 humjanenge.owner@..." email
PMK1504
The HJ Owner most firmly beg to differ. Veeresh Malik is not a moderator of the HJ Yahoo group, and has not been an active moderator for over 2 years.
lokesh batra
[Moderator's note:
Practically every message that is posted on HJ-YG seems to be relayed to HJ-GG with tinkering of names. Unfortunately we, the moderators of HJ-YG, are unable to prevent this and despite our best attempts, we are unable to determine who is doing this mischief. Started yesterday we have changed the subject line of posts from HJ-YG to show up as [Humjanenge-YG] to help members differentiate the two. We welcome any suggestions to tackle this menace.
-vishal]
Dear All,
Yesterday after I posted a news item on HJ Yahoo Gp "B.Standard : RTI Act and PPP Projects" .
The HJ YG moderator did post it on Humjanege yahoo Gp.
Please Note:
Shockingly, in addition to what was posted on HJ yahoo Gp, following mail landed in my mail Box with some one Impostering my name as lokesh batra humjane...@gmail.com.
This is to inform you that I have no such ID.
Please watch out if you receive any mail using my name from any Google Gp
Rgds,
Lokesh
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Wed, November 10, 2010 11:17:35 PM
[HumJanenge-YG] B.Standard : RTI Act and PPP Projects
From: lokesh batra <humjanen...@gmail.com>Add to Contacts
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/rti-actppp-projects/414226/
RTI Act and PPP Projects
Atul Sharma / New Delhi November 09, 2010, 15:55 IST
If one were to draw up a list of the five most empowering laws enacted in independent India, the Right to Information Act would surely find a place in the
S.D. Sharma
Kindly provide the MTJ (mooh-tod-jawaab) to Mr. Vishal
I have been HumJanenge YG member for 5 years. I am unsatisfy with
email coming from that group (HJ YG) because they are newspaers
reports sent by few haraamis RTI vishalkudchadkar, urvashisharma and
lokesh batra and which anyone can make for himself using Google news
feed with simple commands like "rti india", ":right to information"
"central information commission" "state information commission". Mr
fredrick noronha has already done this at bytesforall.org (link posted
by fred to HJ YG in 2008) and whatever mr Vishalkudchadkar is posting
to HJ-YG is simply forwarding emails subscribed from Mr fredricks blog
without any attributeing.
One question, this email was sent to me with subject [HumJanenge-YG]
from humjanenge.googlegroups but sender is "lokesh
batra"<humjanen...@gmail.com">. Why / How ?
S D Sharma
PMK1504
As there is so much misinformation, let me clarify exactly although it
deeply pains me to remember past evernts
1) Our mentor and Masterji late Prakash Kardaley founded HumJanenge
yahoogroup in 2004 after some (minor) disagreements with Mahararshtra
RTI Adhikaar. Whereas Mahadhikar was (and still is) a Maharashtra RTI
group, H-J was intended as a national group for the Central RTI Act
2005. For a long period H-J was a Maharashtra-centric group, and with
the enactment of the NRTI 2005 the Maharashtrians attempted to
dominate all RTI discussions based on their experience with MRTIA.
2) Sometime in 2004, Masterji came in contact with me. I clarify that
he approached me for some assistance concerning RTI and not the other
way around. I was made co-owner of H-J in 2005. I am as equal an owner
of HJ-YG as Masterji was. From 2007 onwards Masterji was very unhappy
with a few RTI publicity hounds like Arvind Kejriwal and Shailesh
Gandhi who were being promoted by Arunaji and Shekharji. They made
tall promises to him which were never fulfilled and on 2 occasions
they disrespected him publicly, including at the 2007 Pune National
RTI Conference. Yet Masterji never allowed this fact to be known
generally.
3 Masterji always believed in youth of India. He made 6 youngsters
moderators of HumJanenge. 2 of them (Vishal and Anuradha) stabbed him
in the back by switching loyalties to.Arunaji They have done their
best to ensure that HJ is only a publicity blog. They have stifled all
free discussion at HJ. They have moderated to ensure that 75% of all
post made to H-J are rejected. This dynamic duo ensure that hardly any
fresh members are allowed into the group unless personally approved by
Arunaji's group of chamchas.
4) The final insult to all Masterji's chelas came when his iconic
photo (Masterji with Annaji) was removed from HJ webpage and replaced
with one of Arvind and Rahul, and text alterred making out that HJ's
existence is due to Rahul and Arvind and all the grief is only for
these 2.
5) It is height of hypocrisy for Vishal to say that he does not know
who I am. As a moderator of HJ-YG he knows exactly who I am and what I
can do to HJ-YG if I so choose.. Vishal also knows the sacrifices I
have made for RTI and H-J so that the public decencies and outward
appearances could be preserved for outsiders not to exploit the
politics within RTI family
PMK
PMK1504
You asked 2 questions (not 1) "Why / How", so I am replying in a second post
"Why" was answered in my previous post
"How" is as follows
a) As co-owner of HJ-YG I get emails from HJ-YG for all messages
posts / subscription requests which are pending moderation. This
includes the "Google Alerts" facility which immediately informs all
moderators/owners about breaking news as soon as Google indexes the
RTI news stories.
b) Emails from my HJ-owner account are fowarded to HJ-GG and then
filtered / processed by a google python (.py) script before being
automatically posted to HJ-GG. If the poster (to HJ-YG) is also a
member of HJ-GG with full posting rights then it is posted in
name/email ID of member to HJ-GG. If poster at HJ-YG is either not a
member of HJ-GG or is moderated the message is posted in name of
member but with email ID <humjanen...@gmail.com> The process is
fully automatic and transparent. No fake / forged emails are being
posted in anyone else's name/ID from this group.
c) The python script is programmed to leave original header if message
originates from either of the HJ groups.
Hopes this clarifies everything
PMK
Pardeep K. Rapria, Advocate
From: PMK1504 <humjanen...@gmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 10:09:02 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] Re: Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators
Sarbajit Roy
I have 1 question in addition to what Sharmaji had posted
Consider this thread at HumJanenge(Google)
http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/dcc132a8f06a58e0
Vishal Kudchadkar makes 2 posts to this group (ie. googlegroup) on Oct 24 from his email ID "v_k...@yahoo.com" claiming that he has nothing to do with this group. This fact is immediately noticed and commented upon by Krishnaraj Rao. Vishal does not reply.
Now if I click on Vishal's "profile" on the first 2 posts in this thread I find that Mr. Vishal Kudchadkar has been busy making 11 other posts to this group from "v_k...@yahoo.com" between Oct 19 to Cct 24 2010.
So my query is:
What caused Vishal Kudchadkar to recant from his association with HJ-Google on Oct 24 2010 ?
Sarbajit
menvoice
Regards
> The email below was brought to our notice. The email has NOT been sent by the owners/moderators of Humjanenge. There is NO plan by us to move to GoogleGroups. The group started by Masterji will remain as a Humjanenge yahoogroup. This is "PMK 1504 <humjanenge.ow...@gmail.com>" email address has been created by someone other than the owners/moderators of Humjanenge yahoogroup in probably an attempt to mislead the members of this group.
> Please be wary of such emails.
>
> Regards,
> Moderators, HJ
>
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PMK1504
group. The soon to be phased out HumJanenge Yahoogroup posts news.
The skewed censorship policy at [HumJanenge-YG] only permits select
persons to post news.
Narayan Varma
Narayan Varma
56B Mittal Tower,
210 Nariman Point
Mumbai 400 021
RTI PCGT helpline 09322882288
my cell 09821096052
PMK1504
from this group is reduced. You shall begin seeing the difference from
the coming week itself, and once we achieve our targeted membership of
2500 members for the first phase.
PMK.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Narayan Varma
<narayanv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You have to restrict number of mails per day. That would permit proper and
> full justification for attention and study and follow up.
>
> On 13 November 2010 07:33, PMK1504 <humjanen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This group is not a news group but an RTI discussion and activism
>> group. The soon to be phased out HumJanenge Yahoogroup posts news.
>>
>> The skewed censorship policy at [HumJanenge-YG] only permits select
>> persons to post news.
raja bunch
Each member only 2 mails per day.
|
Sarbajit Roy
Since neither Vishal or you has replied to my query, I (like Ram
Jethmalani) shall keep posting 1 more query every day.
My query for today is "Why is vishalkudchadkar sending messages as
Vihar Durve on HJ-YG , and from his v_k...@yahoo.com ID which you say
has been hacked ?"
Here is the evidence
[HumJanenge-YG] Mah SIC Aug 2010 Pendency
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young cyber indians
I'm shocked to read all this about Arwind Kejriwal, and he is a publicity hound who showed disrespect to your Master-ji etc. I see Arwind Kejriwal on television and he looks and talks like a fat corrupt babu..
In guru-sisya parampara highest respect must be given to teacher, and even if someday student excels his teacher, which is indeed proudest moment for both teacher and student. It is a great shame for me that I have not come across any great guru who can teach me about RTI.
Rajeshwar Rao
Dr. Vijay Sazawal
----- Original Message -----From: Narayan VarmaSent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:25 AMSubject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators
rajneesh madhok
| Sir, Kindly send me daily digest in shape of 25 messages, in place of individual message. As my inbox get multiple messages which is quite difficult for me to manage my day to day activities. Regards, Rajneesh Madhok |
Vishal Kudchadkar
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From: Sarbajit Roy <sro...@gmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 22:03:56
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] Re: Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators
Vishal Kudchadkar
As you may be aware, HJ-YG does not allow posts with attachments. We request
members to email the attachment to my personal vis...@gmail.com account. I then
put the attachments up on box.net and then post the message on HJ-YG. As you can
see I have retained in the post Vihar Durve's email address.
Regards,
Vishal
----- Original Message ----
From: Sarbajit Roy <sro...@gmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:05:52
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] Re: Urgent Notice: Impersonation
of Humjanenge owners/moderators
Sarbajit Roy
Your reply has clarified some (not all) issues.
1) At [RTI_India] we had detected and blocked durgesh nandan's gmail
account over 2 years back. Being a senior citizen he had been fooled
into providing a password to some Nigerian 419 scammers who sent fake
"send me cash" emails to many RTIers. We also had to block another
account v4veeresh which was spamming your HJ-YG posts (in advance of
posting to HJ-YG) to [RTI India].
2) Why don't you clarify the "ownership" / "moderator" issue at HJ-YG
once and for all ?
3) How does "humjane...@gmail.com" have the ability to post
emails from "v_k...@yahoo.com" to the HJ-GG list (as v_k...@yahoo.com)
?
4) How do you respond to "PMK"s criticism about being constantly
spammed with news alerts from HJ-YG
Sarbajit