Please Assist: Help Requested for EDTN
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Green Xenon [Radium]
Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below thread?
Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,
Radium
Don Bowey
You have certainly made a mess of making google searches. They should flush
all your posts so anyone wanting to search your latest interest might find
rational information.
Richard Crowley
Hard to cooperate or understand when you make up acronyms
apparently out of thin air and then demand that they be defined
and explained. It is the kind of scenario that would make a good
scene on Monty Python.
If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
tell us where you saw it. Even better trace it back through the
context yourself. You might learn something about research
instead of asking everyone else to do it for you.
Jerry Avins
> Hi:
>
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
> thread?
...
Where did you hear of your particular combination of letters? Isn't that
a good place to start if you want to track down its meaning? You seem to
have an idea that it's a kind of telephone service for people with a
particular disability. That's pretty specific. What makes you think so?
Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Green Xenon [Radium]
> If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
> tell us where you saw it.
Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :
"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"
Quotes from
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/69ccb7c241b916d2?hl=en&
:
"It's a long time since I had anything to do with this but the 'normal'
standards were/are Baudot, CCITT and EDTN."
Now would someone please assist me on this?
John Holmes
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?
Acronym=edtn&Find=find&string=exact
--
Your mother was an impolite hobo who used to drink Tequila on a flagpole.
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
That you provide bullshit as information, doesn't help.
Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
Include the quote marks.
Richard Crowley
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:46fd3f93$0$20627$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
What happened when you asked Teletec?
What happened when you asked Peter Andrews?
Just throwing out questions like this clearly isn't getting you anywhere.
Your tone of insistence isn't winning you any friends, either.
Jerry Avins
Don't believe everything you read. Baudot code was a five-bit code for a
teletype-like machine (with two modal shift characters so some keys had
three meanings). CCITT was a standards organization, now superceded. For
all I know, Baudot may have been the subject of one of their standards.
What gives you an idea that EDTN has anything to do with deafness? If it
does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.
IanB
>What gives you an idea that EDTN has anything to do with deafness? If it
>does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.
It's the European Deaf Telephone (Network) that is used in a few
European countries - Germany and Switzerland for example. It uses V21
modulation, but only one channel, and runs at 110 baud.
Took me less than 5 minutes to find using a search engine - the OP
couldn't have been trying too hard.
--
Ian
The from address is (currently) valid
Green Xenon [Radium]
> Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
>
> Include the quote marks.
Did exactly that.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tted+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search
No results
Richard Owlett
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
>> thread?
>
>
> ...
>
> Where did you hear of your particular combination of letters? Isn't that
> a good place to start if you want to track down its meaning? You seem to
> have an idea that it's a kind of telephone service for people with a
> particular disability. That's pretty specific. What makes you think so?
>
> Jerry
Using *_ONLY_* information from his "Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:04:03 -0700"
post and spending approximately 10 minutes with Google I came up with 10
URL's of agencies/firms which would be able to answer ANY legitimate
question or be willing/able to "tell him where to go" [intentional
double entendre]. The majority of sources are either commercial or
governmental sites. Remainder appear to be charitable sites.
All he would probably need would be a cogent reason for asking.
Green Xenon [Radium]
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/b9ce4d219f7ce255 :
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:51:56 -0400, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >What gives you an idea that EDTN has
> >anything to do with deafness? If it
> >does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.
> It's the European Deaf Telephone (Network) that is used in a few
> European countries - Germany and Switzerland for example. It uses V21
> modulation, but only one channel, and runs at 110 baud.
Where did you find this information? Specifically, where did you find
that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?
> Took me less than 5 minutes to find using a search engine
Really? What search engine did you use?
I used Google.
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
You should not have stopped.
Google "tte directive"
Don Bowey
Owlett" <row...@atlascomm.net> wrote:
And enough effective intelligence to understand what is presented so he can
connect the dots.
IanB
<gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>Where did you find this information?
A couple of the sites I came across mentioned it - I can't remember
which ones. Nothing technical, just a brief description.
> Specifically, where did you find
>that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?
I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.
>Really? What search engine did you use?
Microsoft Live Search
Green Xenon [Radium]
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0700, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
> <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>>Specifically, where did you find
>>that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?
> I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
> forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.
So, IOW, you don't know for sure that EDTN equates to “European Deaf
Telephone Network”? I was afraid that would happen.
Whenever I've asked about EDTN [in relation to TDD], anyone who does
give an answer does not seem to know whether it is 100% correct. So my
suspicion was confirmed. !#%!$
Not trying to be a nuisance but I’m going crazy because of the
difficulty in answering my question.
Anyways, I am going to read the "TTE directive" and hopefully it will
answer my question.
Green Xenon [Radium]
> Using *_ONLY_* information from his "Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:04:03 -0700"
> post and spending approximately 10 minutes with Google I came up with 10
> URL's of agencies/firms which would be able to answer ANY legitimate
> question or be willing/able to "tell him where to go"
Will you please show examples of those “10 URL's of agencies/firms”?
Richard Owlett
If I could do it on *ONE* try using _ONLY_ info from *YOUR* post,
WHY CAN'T YOU???????????????????????????????????????
Jerry Avins
...
> Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
>
> Include the quote marks.
Typo. That's "tte directive".
Jerry Avins
My grandson has (had?) Asperger's. His mother, a neatnik, did for him
everything that might be messy. When he was ten years old, She dropped
dead while preparing supper as he watched. His grandmother -- we weren't
yet married -- rushed to help pick up the pieces, and made him pancakes
for breakfast at his request. He just sat and looked at them. It turned
out that he was waiting for her to cut them up. She handed him a knife
and his education began. I first met him when she brought him to our
house a week later for a brief stay. His first act on walking through
the door was to yank my beard and announce "It's real". He had a lot of
things to learn.
He's a senior in college now, and has been living on his own for over
three years. He's learned a lot. There's hope for Radium too if he
doesn't get his pancaked cut up for him.
Jerry Avins
Look, you dumb jerk. _Really look_. What did it say on that page of
"nothing"? Was there a line that started "Did you mean ...."?
Mike Easter
Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
Newsgroups: comp.dsp, rec.audio.tech, rec.audio.opinion,
sci.electronics.basics, sci.electronics.design, 24hoursupport.helpdesk,
uk.telecom, uk.people.deaf, alt.society.deaf
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
> thread?
This question is unnecessarily excessively crossposted.
"I did google searches to find this out and got EXTREMELY frustrated"
The fact that you aren't a very good searcher isn't an excuse to also be
an excessive crossposter.
--
Mike Easter - anti-crossposter
Any crossposting with which I disagree
has been trimmed away in my own reply
BobF
"Jerry Avins" <j...@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:9_idnX-GGuAQ52Db...@rcn.net...
Green Xenon [Radium]
> You should not have stopped.
>
> Google "tte directive"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tte+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search
Checked the 1st 10 pages. Absolutely nothing about EDTN!!!!
Checked EDTN with "tte directive" below
Absolutely nothing at all!!!!
I hate to be so rude and demanding but WTF is going on
here??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
WTF don’t the websites about
Telecommunications-Terminal-Equipment-Directive say
anything about
EDTN????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Before I actually did a search on "tte directive", I was extremely
optimistic and had a positive attitude that the search would tell me
what EDTN stands for [in relation to TTYs], the technical specs about
EDTN, and perhaps some EDTN numbers I could dial to listen to the
desirable tones. I was so f---------------king wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I am extremely upset and
disappointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
None of those sites told me what EDTN stands
for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish EDTN stood for “European Deaf Telephone Network” but it doesn’t.
My wish is way way way too good to ever be true. If EDTN stood for
“European Deaf Telephone Network”, then that would make life way too
easy!!!!!!!
If EDTN stood for “European Deaf Telephone Network”, then my search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&btnG=Google+Search
would have yielded the results I am looking for.
If EDTN stood for “European Deaf Telephone Network”, then my search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&btnG=Google+Search
would show a lot more information than just my previous posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If EDTN stood for “European Deaf Telephone Network”, then my search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&btnG=Google+Search
would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, reality -- being the sick sadistic f--k it is -- decides
otherwise. Sadly, EDTN does not stand for “European Deaf Telephone
Network” when relating to textphone terminology.
So just WTF does EDTN stand for?
Also, WTF can I find EDTN phone numbers so I can dial them and listen to
those frightening-yet-enjoyable EDTN tones from
Switzerland??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!
I've never actually listened to EDTN tones but I'm 100% sure I'll enjoy
it. I've listened to American TDD tones by dialing local TDD numbers.
Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
Jerry Avins
> http://crazy.codetroop.com/randimg/imgs/bart.gif
I'll see you and raise you one http://users.erols.com/jyavins/procfaq.htm
nobody >
> I've never actually listened to EDTN tones but I'm 100% sure I'll enjoy
> it. I've listened to American TDD tones by dialing local TDD numbers.
I'll bet the National Federation for the Blind (or some other agency )
is just thrilled by your tying up a line while you get your tonal rocks
off.
Why don't you get a pair of function generators and beat them together?
Who knows...you just might find your personal nirvana noise.
Now go back in your k00klair and leave us alone.
Green Xenon [Radium]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/msg/f1a617da64d1eaa7 :
> Google "tte directive"
The TTED is a piece of stinky human kakaa which stinks like the stinky
thick, foamy, tickly, itchy, hissy, sticky, terrifying, disgusting,
annoying diarrhea kakaa foam of a human who eats stale, fat-free cheddar
cheese, rotten lentils, fig newtons, and farty cauliflower along with
his/her kakaa.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tte+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search
Absolutely nothing at all!!!!
I've never actually listened to EDTN tones but I'm 100% sure I'll enjoy
it. I've listened to American TDD tones by dialing local TDD numbers.
Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> IanB wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0700, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
>> <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>> Specifically, where did you find
>>> that EDTN is łEuropean Deaf Telephone Network˛?
>
>> I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
>> forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.
>
> So, IOW, you don't know for sure that EDTN equates to łEuropean Deaf
> Telephone Network˛? I was afraid that would happen.
>
> Whenever I've asked about EDTN [in relation to TDD], anyone who does
> give an answer does not seem to know whether it is 100% correct. So my
> suspicion was confirmed. !#%!$
>
> Not trying to be a nuisance but Iąm going crazy because of the
> difficulty in answering my question.
>
> Anyways, I am going to read the "TTE directive" and hopefully it will
> answer my question.
And you need to know that not all terms are common to an industry, and may
be used by a single company in their literature..
Green Xenon [Radium]
> On 9/28/07 1:28 PM, in article 46fd6158$0$7507$4c36...@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>
>>IanB wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0700, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
>>><gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Specifically, where did you find
>>
>>>I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
>>>forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.
>>
>>Telephone Network²? I was afraid that would happen.
>>
>>Whenever I've asked about EDTN [in relation to TDD], anyone who does
>>give an answer does not seem to know whether it is 100% correct. So my
>>suspicion was confirmed. !#%!$
>>
>>difficulty in answering my question.
>>
>>Anyways, I am going to read the "TTE directive" and hopefully it will
>>answer my question.
>
>
> And you need to know that not all terms are common to an industry, and may
> be used by a single company in their literature..
>
Dude. I still haven't found out what EDTN means in terms of
textphones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay. I still haven't found out what EDTN means in terms of
textphones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry Avins
...
> The TTED is a piece of stinky human ...
You need to get those tantrums under control if you want to converse
with adults.
Green Xenon [Radium]
> You need to get those tantrums under control if you want to converse
> with adults.
Easy for you to say when you’re not frustrated and desperate for the
correct answer.
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> If EDTN stood for ³European Deaf Telephone Network², then my search
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&btn
> G=Google+Search
> would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
> could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you think that? Just because you WANT it to do that for you, doesn't
mean it MUST or WILL. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
>
> Unfortunately, reality -- being the sick sadistic f--k it is -- decides
> otherwise.
Reality is merely what it is where you recognize it. It is neither good nor
bad, but may be perceived as either.
> Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ³European Deaf Telephone
> Network² when relating to textphone terminology.
No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
>
> So just WTF does EDTN stand for?
>
> Also, WTF can I find EDTN phone numbers so I can dial them and listen to
> those frightening-yet-enjoyable EDTN tones from
> Switzerland??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!
>
> I've never actually listened to EDTN tones but I'm 100% sure I'll enjoy
> it. I've listened to American TDD tones by dialing local TDD numbers.
Perhaps they are similar, or identical.
I hope you do not find any numbers. You would be an insufferable pest.
>
> Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
> about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
> want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
a list you might want:
€ Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
€ Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
€ V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
€ DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
€ EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
Switzerland, and several other countries)
>
> What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> Don Bowey wrote:
And then you had a fit or three.......
(snip)
I don't respond well to tantrums. If you won't help yourself, I won't do it
for you.
Shape-up or get lost.
Green Xenon [Radium]
> On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c36...@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>>If EDTN stood for ³European Deaf Telephone Network², then my search
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&btn
>>G=Google+Search
>>would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
> Why do you think that?
Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>>Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ³European Deaf Telephone
>>Network² when relating to textphone terminology.
> No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>>Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
> According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
> a list you might want:
>
> € Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
> € Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
> countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
> € V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
> € DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
> € EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
> Switzerland, and several other countries)
Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>>What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
>
>
> If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>
> Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
> protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
> don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
is out of my expertise".
After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
"experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.
This is why my posts are not so polite.
Don Bowey
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c36...@roadrunner.com,
>> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>> If EDTN stood for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone NetworkÇ, then my search
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&b
>>> tn
>>> G=Google+Search
>>> would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>> could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
>
>> Why do you think that?
>
> Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>
>>> Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone
>>> NetworkÇ when relating to textphone terminology.
>
>> No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
>
> Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>
>>> Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>> about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>> want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
>
>> According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
>> a list you might want:
>>
>> ú Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
>> ú Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
>> countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
>> ú V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
>> ú DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
>> ú EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
>> Switzerland, and several other countries)
>
> Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
> EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>
>>> What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
Why are you still asking this, when you now say all you want to know is the
meaning of EDTN? You have been given the essential parts to know the
answers.
>>
>>
>> If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>>
>> Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
>> protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
>> don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
>
> I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
> I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
> is out of my expertise".
>
> After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
> "experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.
Perhaps it is because you want the answer to be phrased a certain way, and
you are unwilling to see it in it's parts.
>
> This is why my posts are not so polite.
That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
within your ability to control yourself better.
Green Xenon [Radium]
I am not.
> when you now say all you want to know is the
> meaning of EDTN? You have been given the essential parts to know the
> answers.
No I haven't been given the essential parts.
>>>
>>>If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>>>
>>>Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
>>>protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
>>>don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
>>
>>I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
>>I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
>>is out of my expertise".
>>
>>After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
>>"experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.
> Perhaps it is because you want the answer to be phrased a certain way, and
> you are unwilling to see it in it's parts.
I strongly doubt that. I think the answer is there somewhere [1 out of
10-the-power-10-billion places] but it is extremely difficult to find
because there aren't enough sources to make this answer readily
available. This due to the fact that I am one of the extremely small
minorities of the human population who is actually-interested in EDTN.
The majority simply don't care.
Or [and equally anger-causing for me], the EDTN is a company secret.
Those sick f--ks who make up the company that designed EDTN want to keep
EDTN classified so that no regular person knows about what it "codes"
for or how it works.
I suspect it's probably something that company is going to keep secret
from us. Sick f---scums.
Usually with protocols like EDTN -- where there isn't much info, I might
suspect that someone [or a lot of someones] is/are attempting to cover
up a type of technology.
I then get extremely curious angry and want to forcibly get information
as to how what the EDTN stands for and how it works and possible EDTN
phone numbers. I want to torture the designers -- into providing me the
information. Its only human nature to want something you know you can't
have.
I am so upset now that I want to find whoever designed EDTN and force
them [at oxy-acetylene-blowtorch point] to provide me with information
regarding what EDTN stands for [in relation to textphones], technical
specs of EDTN, and EDTN phones numbers of Switzerland. If they refuse,
I'd like to scorch their skins until they are white and foamy like the
foam produce by heating Parmasen cheese to sizzling point.
>>This is why my posts are not so polite.
>
>
> That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
> within your ability to control yourself better.
This ain't much -- if anything -- to do with AS. I was just in an
extremely bad mood.
dfrog
"Don Bowey" <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C3231060.78DBC%dbo...@comcast.net...
I'm surprised you guys haven't sussed yet that he's winding you up.
As an outsider reading the thread it's very obvious.
You may think he's best left to his own devices.
dfrog
PS - no response from G X R required.
Jerry Avins
...
> This is why my posts are not so polite.
Awww! Poor baby!
Jerry Avins
...
> That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
> within your ability to control yourself better.
It should have been within my grandson's ability to cut up his own food
at age ten. He had to be taught and shown that it was.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
>
> Hi:
>
>
42
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It's easier said than done.
... and if you don't believe it, try proving that it's easier done than
said, and you'll see that it's easier said that `it's easier done than
said' than it is done, which really proves that it's easier said than
done.
Rôgêr
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below thread?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?scoring=d&hl=en
>
> 42
>
Green Xenon [Radium]
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:
>
>>Hi:
>>
>>Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below thread?
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?scoring=d&hl=en
>
>
> 42
>
What do you mean by "42"?
Ivor Jones
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in
message news:4727c151$0$32511$4c36...@roadrunner.com
It's the Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.
Isn't it..?
Ivor
Jerry Avins
Oh, good god! It's improper line wrap.
Richard Crowley
PLEASE LEARN TO USE GOOGLE AND WIKIPEDIA !!!!
You quickly wear out any welcome you had left by asking
such trivial questions that you could look up for yourself.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Right. And now that the OP has it, we shouldn't be getting any more
questions from him.
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Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
I think he's not ready for the red pill. Someone give him the blue one.
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Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context.
Green Xenon [Radium]
> Hi:
>
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
> thread?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?scoring=d&hl=en
>
>
>
>
> Radium
I just contacted http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php and they
told me EDTN does indeed stand for "European Deaf Telephone Network"
Words can't describe how releived I am!
HEEHEEHEEHEEHEE!
As for those EDTN personnel [assuming they even exist] wishing to keep
their details a secret, you've lost your battle against me! I won you!
Yes, oh yes! I won! You secretive wimps are now losers!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I kicked your @$$ without even making the slightest physical contact
with you!
I am so happy now! Nothing feels more excellent than revenge! And I got
exactly that!!!!
-;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;)
-;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;)
-;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;)
-;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;) -;)
Jeff Liebermann
>Words can't describe how releived I am!
That's the problem. You use too many words and too often.
>I am so happy now! Nothing feels more excellent than revenge! And I got
>exactly that!!!!
Great. Now, will you go away?
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jerry Avins
You really are nuts!
Richard Crowley
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
>> thread?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?scoring=d&hl=en
>> Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,
>>
>> Radium
>
> I just contacted http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php and they
> told me EDTN does indeed stand for "European Deaf Telephone Network"
>
> Words can't describe how releived I am!
>
> HEEHEEHEEHEEHEE!
>
> As for those EDTN personnel [assuming they even exist] wishing to keep
> their details a secret, you've lost your battle against me! I won you!
> Yes, oh yes! I won! You secretive wimps are now losers!!!!
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> I kicked your @$$ without even making the slightest physical contact with
> you!
>
> I am so happy now! Nothing feels more excellent than revenge! And I got
> exactly that!!!!
We tried our best to keep this top-secret information away from
you. We had secret meetings to try to coordinate everyone with
the arcane knowledge, but those guys from teletec.co.uk just
wouldn't play ball. They felt sorry for you, and in the end, they
just folded under your relentless research.
The rest of the EDTN community is now suffering from over-
whelming anxiety waiting to see what you are going to do them
now that you know the truth. It wouldn't surprise me if they were
developing a replacement product that they can better keep
hidden from you.
Don Bowey
They lied to get you off their back.
Jerry Avins
Green Xenon [Radium]
"Wanting something doesn't make it real"
I hate it when that happens. When I want something, I want it, and I
want it when I want it!