How am I connected?
Café Publico
moment I'm stumped:
In the control panel's "network connections", 2 connections are shown:
(1) "Broadband --- sbcglobal, disconnected, firewalled, WAN Miniport (PPOE)"
--- (the above has a check mark indicating default connection)
and
(2) "LAN or High Speed Internet --- local area connection, connected,
firewalled, Intel (R) PRO/100 VE, Network Connection, IP address
xx.xxx.xxx.xxx, subnet mask xxx.xxx.xxx.x assigned by DHCP"
I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router) which
is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a day.
Questions: Should I be using the "Broadband" connection instead of the LAN?
How am I even connecting since the disconnected "Broadband" is shown as
default?
I'm not experiencing any problems with my connections, but merely curious to
find out why they apear to work when set up this way.
Thanks for any info or comments . . .
Café Publico
Mike Easter
> I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
> computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router)
> which is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a day.
What/which is your ATT DSL modem? Here are some examples:
http://www.att.com/equipment/accessories/gateways-routers-modems.jsp
Gateways/Routers/Modems
That page shows 2Wire, Motorola, and Westell DSL modem gateways.
Some modems gateways function as a router even tho' they only have one
ethernet port. Some of them function as a PPPoE gateway/ passthu' while
some of them don't.
The page illustration shows the 2wire to have 4 ethernet ports and
(also) pppoe passthru. The Motorola and Westell to have one ethernet,
no pppoe thru'.
> Questions: Should I be using the "Broadband" connection instead of the
> LAN? How am I even connecting since the disconnected "Broadband" is
> shown as default?
>
> I'm not experiencing any problems with my connections, but merely
> curious to find out why they apear to work when set up this way.
I would use it just like it is, ethernet not pppoe.
--
Mike Easter
Meat Plow
> There's probably a perfectly rational explanation for this, but at the
> moment I'm stumped:
>
> In the control panel's "network connections", 2 connections are shown:
> (1) "Broadband --- sbcglobal, disconnected, firewalled, WAN Miniport
> (PPOE)"
> --- (the above has a check mark indicating default connection)
AT&T's PPPoE miniport for authentication on their network. I've never used
one of these, always let the router authenticate PPPoE.
> and
>
> (2) "LAN or High Speed Internet --- local area connection, connected,
> firewalled, Intel (R) PRO/100 VE, Network Connection, IP address
> xx.xxx.xxx.xxx, subnet mask xxx.xxx.xxx.x assigned by DHCP"
The network you are connected to
> I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
> computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router)
> which is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a
> day.
>
> Questions: Should I be using the "Broadband" connection instead of the
> LAN? How am I even connecting since the disconnected "Broadband" is
> shown as default?
>
> I'm not experiencing any problems with my connections, but merely
> curious to find out why they apear to work when set up this way.
>
> Thanks for any info or comments . . .
I'm assuming, maybe incorrectly that the WAN miniport only connects to a
PPPoE server in AT&T's network cloud to log you on to their network.
As far as the #2 connection, you are always connected to AT&T and can
access their servers without the PPPoE login. But you cannot access
anything outside AT&T's cloud.
--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
Café Publico
news:i7av7o$tvu$1...@news.albasani.net:
> Dewe's powbabwy a pewfectwy wationaw expwanation fow th-th-this, but
> at th-th-the moment I'm stumped:
>
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> awe shown: (1) "Bowadband --- sbcgwobaw, disconnected, fiwewawwed,
> WAN Minipowt (PPOE)" --- (th-th-the abowe has a check mawk
> indicating defauwt connection)
>
> and
>
> (2) "WAN ow High Speed Intewnet --- wocaw awea connection,
> connected, fiwewawwed, Intew (W) PWO/100 VE, Netwowk Connection, IP
> addwess xx.xxx.xxx.xxx, subnet mask xxx.xxx.xxx.x assigned by DHCP"
>
> I'm using XP Pow SP3, am not on any computew netwowk wif any
> oth-th-thew computew, and am subscwibe t-t-t-to ATT DSW, hawe onwy
> one modem (no owutew) which is weft on aww th-th-the time, and tuwn
> th-th-the computew on and off once a day.
>
> Qwestions: Shouwd I be using th-th-the "Bowadband" connection
> instead of th-th-the WAN? How am I ewen connecting since th-th-the
> disconnected "Bowadband" is shown as defauwt?
>
> I'm not expewiencing any powbwems wif my connections, but mewewy
> cuwious t-t-t-to find out why th-th-they apeaw t-t-t-to wowk when
> set up th-th-this way.
>
> Danks fow any info ow comments . . .
>
>
Meat Plow
Forgot: And disconnects when not logged in or disconnects after you log
in or both.
Mike Easter
>> Café Publico wrote:
>
>>> I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
>>> computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router)
>>> which is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a
>>> day.
>> I'm assuming, maybe incorrectly that the WAN miniport only connects to a
>> PPPoE server in AT&T's network cloud to log you on to their network.
>
> Forgot: And disconnects when not logged in or disconnects after you log
> in or both.
>> As far as the #2 connection, you are always connected to AT&T and can
>> access their servers without the PPPoE login. But you cannot access
>> anything outside AT&T's cloud.
(I'm assuming) The OP's 'style' is to leave the DSL modem always on when
he turns the computer off, so the modem/gateway keeps its IP address
renewed. When he turns the computer on, the ethernet asks for and gets
its IP from the modem. 'Invisible' pppoe.
If he wanted to see the process unfold, he would have to also turn off
the modem and watch its lights and its webpage interface and the network
gizmo and see whether or not he can see the pppoe processing or if that
is silent in the background and he only can ever see the ethernet IP
acquisition process.
I've never had a DSL modem to watch doing its thing :-)
--
Mike Easter
Meat Plow
The WAN PPPoE software AT&T is run either at startup and logs the user in
transparently or the user does it manually. The modem always has an IP
address. However his LAN card gets an IP from an AT&T DHCP server after
the PPPoE server has accepted the user's name and password. I had AT&T
DSL from 2004 to 2008 and this is the way it was then. Maybe they've
changed it now discarding the need to authenticate but rather decide who
gets out of the cloud by MAC address like cable does.
Café Publico
"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:8fsf91...@mid.individual.net...
> Café Publico wrote:
>
>> I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
>> computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router)
>> which is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a
>> day.
>
> What/which is your ATT DSL modem? Here are some examples:
It's a Siemens Speedstream 4100.
Café Publico
"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
> Meat Plow wrote:
>>> Café Publico wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm using XP Pro SP3, am not on any computer network with any other
>>>> computer, and am subscribe to ATT DSL, have only one modem (no router)
>>>> which is left on all the time, and turn the computer on and off once a
>>>> day.
>
>>> I'm assuming, maybe incorrectly that the WAN miniport only connects to a
>>> PPPoE server in AT&T's network cloud to log you on to their network.
>>
>> Forgot: And disconnects when not logged in or disconnects after you log
>> in or both.
>
>>> As far as the #2 connection, you are always connected to AT&T and can
>>> access their servers without the PPPoE login. But you cannot access
>>> anything outside AT&T's cloud.
>
> (I'm assuming) The OP's 'style' is to leave the DSL modem always on when
> he turns the computer off, so the modem/gateway keeps its IP address
> renewed. When he turns the computer on, the ethernet asks for and gets its
> IP from the modem. 'Invisible' pppoe.
Actually, even though I keep the modem on, there's a new IP address every
time the computer is turned on.
>
> If he wanted to see the process unfold, he would have to also turn off the
> modem and watch its lights and its webpage interface and the network gizmo
> and see whether or not he can see the pppoe processing or if that is
> silent in the background and he only can ever see the ethernet IP
> acquisition process.
And where does one find the "webpage interface" for one's modem?
Mike Easter
> "Mike Easter"
>> If he wanted to see the process unfold, he would have to also turn off
>> the modem and watch its lights and its webpage interface and the
>> network gizmo and see whether or not he can see the pppoe processing
>> or if that is silent in the background and he only can ever see the
>> ethernet IP acquisition process.
>
> And where does one find the "webpage interface" for one's modem?
You never named the brand and modelno of your DSL modem. One example for
some is http://192.168.1.1 but it is not universal.
Do you have 2wire, Motorola, Westell or some other and which model?
--
Mike Easter
Meat Plow
His should be 192.168.0.1
Mike Easter
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Café Publico wrote:
>>> "Mike Easter"
>>>> If he wanted to see the process unfold, he would have to also turn off
>>>> the modem and watch its lights and its webpage interface and the
>>>> network gizmo and see whether or not he can see the pppoe processing
>>>> or if that is silent in the background and he only can ever see the
>>>> ethernet IP acquisition process.
>>> And where does one find the "webpage interface" for one's modem?
>> You never named the brand and modelno of your DSL modem. One example for
>> some is http://192.168.1.1 but it is not universal.
>>
>> Do you have 2wire, Motorola, Westell or some other and which model?
>
>
> His should be 192.168.0.1
OK. Also some of them do it like 2wire: http://gateway.2wire.net.
--
Mike Easter
Meat Plow
Yeah I've had the Speedstream and the 2Wire router/modem. Still have
them. The 2Wire was cool but wanted to impose too much security for me.
It did keep logs on a lot of technical stuff modem-wise. When I started
to get disconnects and re-trains when it rained and nobody had an answer
I told AT&T to shove it and went back to cable.
Café Publico
"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
It's a Siemens Speedstream 4100.
perhaps it didn't get posted on your service:
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/51ff7f7adca80656?hl=en
Thanks very much for helping me figure this out . .
G. Morgan
>In the control panel's "network connections", 2 connections are shown:
>(1) "Broadband --- sbcglobal, disconnected, firewalled, WAN Miniport (PPOE)"
> --- (the above has a check mark indicating default connection)
WAN miniport is usually one of those USB plug-in adaptors so you can take the
Internet with you. Do you have one, or was one ever plugged in?