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N. Brancamenta

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Oct 3, 2003, 1:29:05 PM10/3/03
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I've just purchased a Minolta Scan Multi Pro, and wanted to try
Vuescan. Their site says this is a compatible scanner. I downloaded
the trial version. Basically, it seemed to install easily, with a few
(hardware dependant) little issues. I'm running Windows XP.

My first attempted scan was a medium format slide: 6 x 4.5. When I got
the preview image back, it was truncated ... about half the image was
visible.

Naturally, my assumption was that I had set it for the wrong size
film, and what I was getting was 35mm's worth of image. But that
doesn't seem to be the case. When you first boot Vuescan, the Input
tab has a "scan mode" pulldown, which I set to MF 4800 dpi ... there
were 35mm, APS and other options, so I can assume I was telling the
program what format to scan. I can't find any other place in the
program to assign format size, having hunted through all the tabs and
their expanded options. I tried "rotation" before scanning, and that
didn't work.

Is this something that Hamrick Software intentionally did to "disable"
the product in its trial mode? (If it is, it is not such a good idea,
as I am a purchase prospect and it looks buggy to me.) Or am I missing
something (always a distinct possibility:))

Can any of you Vuescan experts lend me a hand? Or maybe Hamrick
Software reads the group?

Ed Hamrick

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Oct 3, 2003, 2:42:10 PM10/3/03
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"N. Brancamenta" <branc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My first attempted scan was a medium format slide: 6 x 4.5. When I got
> the preview image back, it was truncated ... about half the image was
> visible.

You need to remove the film holder before calibrating. Try:

1) Remove film holder
2) Run VueScan
3) Choose "Scanner|Calibrate"
4) Insert film holder
5) Press Preview button

Regards,
Ed Hamrick


N. Brancamenta

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Oct 3, 2003, 6:19:11 PM10/3/03
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Hi Ed,

... and thanks for getting back to me so soon. I went ahead and
bought the pro version of VueScan .... a sign that I am confident that
the problem is solvable. (So many people seem to rave about Vuescan,
including many Scan Multi Pro owners, I figure I am just a few clicks
away from getting this right.)

Unfortunately, your suggestion didn't work. I made a basic measure of
the area being scanned, and it looks like it is the general area of a
35mm slide.

I threw away the ini file in order to nullify the effects of any
tinkering I had done. Do I need to make any special settings under the
crop (or any other) tab?

Here are all the settings as of now:

INPUT
Scan Task: Scan to file
Scan Mode: Scan from Scan Multi Pro
Scan Quality: MF 4800 dpi
scan Quality: Print
Media Type: Image
Batch Scan: Off
Frame Number: 1
Preview Resolution: auto
Scan Resolution:4800 dpi
Mirror: unchecked
Auto Focus: Preview
Auto Scan: None
Auto Save: Scan
Auto Print: None
Auto Eject: Exit
Number of samples: 1
Scan from Preview: unchecked
Long exposure pass: unchecked
Lock exposure: unchecked
Exposure clipping: 0.1

CROP
Crop units: mm
Auto Position: unchecked
X offset: 15.66
Y offset: 12.171
Crop size: 6 x 4.5cm
Lock Aspect ratio: off
Crop orientation: portrait
x images: 1
y images: 1
border (%): 15
Preview area: default
Focus X offset: 20.199
Focus Y offset: 36.095

I'm running a 2.5GHZ Pentium 4 PC with Windows XP.

Your help is appreciated.

N.


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Foggy@foggyland.com Old Foggy

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Oct 3, 2003, 7:15:52 PM10/3/03
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You're talking one hellova big file
try 2400 DPI and that may tell you if you have a memory problem

Gus

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Kurt Stege

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Oct 3, 2003, 7:45:49 PM10/3/03
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branc...@hotmail.com (N. Brancamenta) wrote:

>Unfortunately, your suggestion didn't work. I made a basic measure of
>the area being scanned, and it looks like it is the general area of a
>35mm slide.

>Here are all the settings as of now:


>
>INPUT
>Scan Task: Scan to file
>Scan Mode: Scan from Scan Multi Pro
>Scan Quality: MF 4800 dpi

>Scan Resolution:4800 dpi

Your scanner has two different modes (or lenses to scan
the slides).

One lens is for scanning 35mm film in a resolution of 4800 dpi.
The second lens is for scanning 60mm film in 3200 dpi.

You are using the film holder for MF (60mm film), but are
telling Vuescan to scan in 4800 dpi. Probably vuescan tells
the scanner to use the 35mm-lens to scan in 4800 dpi.
That is a good idea, maybe you want to scan only a small
rectangle from your MF slide, and really want to scan in
the maximum possible resolution.

Alas, the scanner is able to scan only a strip of 24x90mm
or so from your slide in 4800 dpi. Good to know, that this
is a way to scan panoramas or other exotic settings in a
real high resolution.

The original Minolta software and, IIRC, some versions
of vuescan detect the type of inserted film holder and
offer only the appropriate lens for scanning. But that
is just an unnecessary limitation of the abilities of
the scanner.

It may be, that your film holder or your scanner is
broken, and the sensor to detect the type of film holder
is not working anymore. But even if so, be happy for
the new abilities, and switch the resolution down to
3200 dpi when scanning MF slides.

Regards,
Kurt.

Ed Hamrick

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Oct 4, 2003, 2:22:46 AM10/4/03
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"Kurt Stege" <kurt-...@online.de> wrote:
> You are using the film holder for MF (60mm film), but are
> telling Vuescan to scan in 4800 dpi. Probably vuescan tells
> the scanner to use the 35mm-lens to scan in 4800 dpi.

Yes, that's exactly the problem. The 4800 dpi lens setting
only scans the central area of medium format - it's zoomed
in, so it sees less of the film.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick


N. Brancamenta

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Oct 4, 2003, 11:41:04 AM10/4/03
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You guys are 100% correct, as I now realize. Thanks so much to all.
Deep in the Dimage manual, page 19, it says:

"The maximum resolution of this scanner is 4800 x 4800 dpi. The
maximum optical resolution varies with the format of the film: 35mm
film - 4800 x 4800, medium format film - 3200 x 4800. Scans of medium
format film can have a final resolution of 4800 x 4800 dpi through
interpolation."

This is what threw me. When I used the Minolta scan software, it
cheerfully obliged when I asked for 4800 x 4800 in medium format,
yielding a whopping 250MB+ file. But it wasn't a "real" 4800 x 4800,
as I now understand, it was interpolated from 3200.

It does look as though the area that's addressable at 4800 x 48000 was
roughly 25mm x 80mm+, which is good news as soon as I start to scan
the Xpan slides and negatives.

Which leads me to another set of Vuescan questions I'm going to post
in a another thread now ... "Vuescan and Panoramic Images".

Again, thanks all. What a friendly knowledgable resource.

N.

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