disapparating - a clue?
kiwiscribe
least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
grounds of Hogwarts.
This has GOT to be significant. Any bets that Voldermort eventually finds a
way around the prohibition and scares the bejesus out of everybody by
suddenly materialising in the middle of a feast?
Who knows, maybe he is already popping in and out at will Ooooh, scary
thought ....! ;-)
Cornelius Fudge
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House elves can do it. (Dobby in the hospital wing)
hansaplatz
"Cornelius Fudge" <sp...@sux.cox> wrote in message
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there might be an important disctinction there
does that mean it only applies to human magical beings maybe?
so voldy might only have to make himself so unhuman (by whatever means -
though i don't think a animagus transformation would work) and maybe then he
could get close enough to harry.
it would be funny if that happened only for voldemort finding harry's not
there...
or if they set a trap to get voldemort to appear like that... by hinting
through sources that hogwarts had a weakness in that area (that they had
engineered maybe)
~
hansaplatz
Priscilla Talle
word for that kind of transportation........
Dan
> "Cornelius Fudge" <sp...@sux.cox> wrote in message
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>>>It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione
>>>reminds us at least once a book that it is impossible to
>>>apparate/disapparate within the grounds of Hogwarts.
>>>
>>>This has GOT to be significant. Any bets that Voldermort eventually
>>>finds a way around the prohibition and scares the bejesus out of
>>>everybody by suddenly materialising in the middle of a feast?
>>>
>>>Who knows, maybe he is already popping in and out at will Ooooh,
>>>scary thought ....! ;-)
>
>
>>House elves can do it. (Dobby in the hospital wing)
>
>
> there might be an important disctinction there
>
> does that mean it only applies to human magical beings maybe?
>
> so voldy might only have to make himself so unhuman (by whatever means -
> though i don't think a animagus transformation would work) and maybe then he
> could get close enough to harry.
I'm pretty sure it states in one of the books (well Hermione does) that
being an animagus doesn't get around that problem. Possibly you can
apparate from within hogwarts to elsewhere in hogwarts?
>
> ~
> hansaplatz
>
>
>
fhotchkiss
(hansaplatz) wrote:
And if Voldemort gets stuck as whatever he apparates as... Voldy the house
elf (and subordinate to Dobby as no-one will ever give Voldy clothes...)
He'd hate that...
Brenda Krause
"Dan" wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it states in one of the books (well Hermione does) that
> being an animagus doesn't get around that problem. Possibly you can
> apparate from within hogwarts to elsewhere in hogwarts?
>
I think this makes the most sense. If they teach apparating at school, it
would be logical (but not necessary) that they wouldn't have to go
off-campus to teach it. I'm not exactly sure of the correct wording, but it
seems that every time apparating at Hogwarts is mentioned, it's in
connection with someone trying to get in by stealth. Rita Skeeter can't
apparate inside, Voldemort can't, Siruis can't. But it doesn't specifically
say that they can't apparate once they are inside, does it?
Correct me if this is wrong (like anyone needs an invitation to do that!).
Brenda
George Johnson
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| He could just come in through the fireplaces? I don't remember the right
| word for that kind of transportation........
Chimney Sweeping?
If Santa can do it, then why can't Voldemort?
Priscilla Talle
"Dan" <sp...@mkanetwork.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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How do they teach apparating anyway?
jewahe
> And if Voldemort gets stuck as whatever he apparates as... Voldy the house
> elf (and subordinate to Dobby as no-one will ever give Voldy clothes...)
> He'd hate that...
Whatever he apparates as? Apparation isn't changing form or becoming
something else - it's changing location.
Of course, the question is, can an animigus apparate after s/he has
changed to his/her animal form? It's obvious they can understand
things on a human level, but do they retain other abilities, remain
able to cast spells, et cetera?
Priscilla Talle
Death Spectacular
He know if your DeathEating!
He knows if your a Fake!
He prefers you to be bad not good!
So be pure blood for badness sake!
Santa Morte is coming to town!
Santa Morte is coming to town!
:)
Vipera Darcke
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Priscilla Talle
Priscilla Talle
Sirius Kase
"Priscilla Talle" <s.talle...@chello.nl> wrote:
Hogwarts doesn't, the kids go the an Apparatting school during the
summer months or they get their bravest parent to teach them, then they
go down to the Dept of Nonmotorized Transportation and take a test, get
their photo snapped and standaround while the ugly sisters take a smoke
break.
Sirius Kase
Check this out: http://www.hogwarts-library.net/reference
Priscilla Talle
Sirius Kase
"kiwiscribe" <kiwis...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione reminds us at
> least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
> grounds of Hogwarts.
>
Maybe because she's wrong. Her precious books have lied to her and she
will learn a valuable lesson about how even liars can write books. She
reminds me of these people who insist on something just because they saw
it written somewhere, like on a website.
Just because something is repeatedly stated or written as a fact doesn't
mean it is true.
> This has GOT to be significant. Any bets that Voldermort eventually finds a
> way around the prohibition and scares the bejesus out of everybody by
> suddenly materialising in the middle of a feast?
>
> Who knows, maybe he is already popping in and out at will Ooooh, scary
> thought ....! ;-)
>
>
>
He's probably kidnapped all the elves and polyjuiced the deatheaters to
replace the elves. Dobby is voldy and winky is wormtail, no wait -
dobby is dumbledore.
Priscilla Talle
gjw
<kiwis...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione reminds us at
>least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
>grounds of Hogwarts.
>
>This has GOT to be significant.
I assume she said that simply to explain why Dumbledore's enemies
don't simply pop in, kill Harry, and pop back out. She wanted to avoid
turning Hogwarts into a battlefield and keep it a relatively safe
place (if you can consider a place safe when it contains killer
basilisks, mountain trolls, Riddle's memory, and turncoats like
Quirrel & Crouch...)
kiwiscribe
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>
> He know if your DeathEating!
> He knows if your a Fake!
> He prefers you to be bad not good!
> So be pure blood for badness sake!
>
> Santa Morte is coming to town!
> Santa Morte is coming to town!
>
> :)
>
> Vipera Darcke
>
Toon
<kiwis...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
Well, his apparating at MOM seemed a bit different from normal, so,
maybe his version can get past Hogwarts spells.
I still think eh planned on port keying back to the Maze with his
DE's, then killing everybody there. His two greatest enemies are now
dead, Crouch Jr can impersonate Fudge for V's puppet regime, and he
could work in secret to gather an even bigger army and take over, all
while making new Ministry Rules ala Fudge and Hogwarts.
Toon
wrote:
Not apparating. Something else. Elf version.
Jim
> How do they teach apparating anyway?
Through repetition. :-)
Jim
PJ Browning
<to...@toon.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:01:39 +1200, "kiwiscribe"
> <kiwis...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione reminds us at
> >least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
> >grounds of Hogwarts.
> >
> >This has GOT to be significant. Any bets that Voldermort eventually finds a
> >way around the prohibition and scares the bejesus out of everybody by
> >suddenly materialising in the middle of a feast?
> >
> >Who knows, maybe he is already popping in and out at will Ooooh, scary
> >thought ....! ;-)
> >
> >
> Well, his apparating at MOM seemed a bit different from normal, so,
> maybe his version can get past Hogwarts spells.
It doesn't have to be.
the staff of the MoM apparate in and out all the time. In fact, Mr
Wesley mentions it when he's taking Harry to the hearing. He would
normally apparate but he can't cause Harry's not allowed (and hasn't
learned yet anyway). and I'm guessing that the point of origin for a
floo trip could be traced so that's out.
so they go 'muggle' style
Eric Bohlman
news:siriuskase-6CC9D...@news01.east.earthlink.net:
> Just because something is repeatedly stated or written as a fact
> doesn't mean it is true.
The logical fallacy that it does is literally called "argumentum ad
nauseam."
richard e white
I think we will find out in book 7.
--
Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
Troels Forchhammer
>
> It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione reminds us at
> least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
> grounds of Hogwarts.
Not to mention that Snape confirmed it in PoA (quite vigorously, I might
add ;-) and I can't remember if anyone else has told us.
I agree. There must be a very good reason for this - the constant
repetitions must serve a purpose.
> This has GOT to be significant.
OK - an important purpose ;-) (I agree completely).
> Any bets that Voldermort eventually finds a way around the prohibition
> and scares the bejesus out of everybody by suddenly materialising in the
> middle of a feast?
Bets? No. I'm not the betting type ;-)
Making qualified guesses: I can see two ways that this could possibly play
out; either someone is going to forget about this at a crucial moment or
someone is going to find a way around it at a crucial moment.
Which it is and who is going to do it is, I think, too early to guess.
Having heard Hermione repeatedly nag about it exasperatedly, Harry is just
as likely to be the one to forget as the one to remember. Voldemort
probably knows /Hogwarts, a History/ as well as Hermione, so he would seem
more likely to try to circumvent this (as you note), but he has been known
to overlook important details when he was in a hurry, so I wouldn't make
any bets.
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid mail is t.forch(a)mail.dk
The trouble with being a god is that you've got no one to pray to.
-- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)
Nomenmancer
> "kiwiscribe" <kiwis...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>It strikes me there has to be a very good reason why Hermione reminds us at
>>least once a book that it is impossible to apparate/disapparate within the
>>grounds of Hogwarts.
>
> Not to mention that Snape confirmed it in PoA (quite vigorously, I might
> add ;-) and I can't remember if anyone else has told us.
>
> I agree. There must be a very good reason for this - the constant
> repetitions must serve a purpose.
probably, but it might also be repeated for the same reason that the
general description of quiddich and the fact that harry is a wizard keep
getting repeated: as background for people who picked up a book without
reading the earlier books and/or as part of the background of a
particular scene.
Sirius Kase
Toon <to...@toon.com> wrote:
Maybe Voldy can do it elf style.
Ash Wyrd
"Sirius Kase" <siriu...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:siriuskase-
> Maybe Voldy can do it elf style.
My mind just went to a not so nice place right there.... hand me a brain
brillo please!!!