He asked Flitwick to give him a love charm on himself..so women would
be attracted to him, despite his being evil.
--
Narrator: But what does P.O.O.P mean? It's actually carefully organized
paraphrase that stands for: People Order Our Patties.
Sponge: Ohhhhhhh! Poop!
He has that Alex Krycek thing going on.
marilyn
He clearly must be playing with his potions!
Alex Krycek?
Some people like the bad boys... :-)
::raises her hand::
Toni
At a guess, because he's played by Alan Rickman.
But I could be wrong. Anyone in the Snape fan club who hasn't seen
either movie? How about anyone who has seen one or both movies but
thought Snape was attractive beforehand, based on just the books?
Well, I don't think he is attractive. But some of us can like and respect a
competent, courageous teacher despite the fact that he has oily hair.
Honestly, people can be so shallow.
Em
> "Kish" <Kis...@pacbell.net> wrote
> > Frank Secada wrote:
> > >
> > > As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> > > would find Snape attractive.
>
> Well, I don't think he is attractive. But some of us can like and respect
> a competent, courageous teacher
No, he's a cruel, spiteful, often unethical teacher
He is, however, a courageous *person*, and a guy who does the right thing
even when he probably doesn't want to.
Catherine Johnson.
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> As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> would find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality?
> His flowing locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
Two words:
Alan. Rickman.
Catherine Johnson.
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Although I do appreciate the movies :)
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>
>"Marilyn" <mos...@nbnet.nb.caca> wrote in message
>news:3e03aa04...@news.aliant.net...
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:19:08 GMT, "Frank Secada"
>> <frank....@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> >As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people would
>> >find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality? His
>flowing
>> >locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> He has that Alex Krycek thing going on.
>>
>> marilyn
>>
>
>Alex Krycek?
>
From The X-Files. Played by Nicholas Lea, IIRC.
I never thought of Snape as physically attractive, even after the movie -- my
conception of him is based on the little chapter illustration in the American
hardcover print of PoA... He had this whole Jafar (from Disney's Aladdin) thing
going on.
What makes Snape an awesome character is his mystery. We know certain things
about his past, and that it's intertwined with Harry's family, but we don't
know anything about his motivations. Is he evil, biding his time? Is he good,
but too oily to immediately appear heroic? Even when they're ultimately
revealed, we'll probably never learn the whole story.
--
"I'm unclean, a libertine, and everytime I vent my spleen
I seem to lose the power of speech
You're slipping slowly from my reach
You grow me like an evergreen
You've never seen the lonely me at all"
-Placebo
Snape is Byronic. Book-Snape is less attractive than movie-Snape, but
even Book-Snape is fascinating. He has the complexity that most of the
other adult characters lack in the first book, though we only really get
to see it at the end when we learn he was acting to help Harry even though
he hates the boy. There's the mystery of why he has such a strong
reaction, which is not entirely explained away by Dumbledore. There's his
undeniable intelligence, and the fact that he is different from the other
wizards in his sneering at the use of wands (despite his use of one when
necessary). But most of all there's his anger. When he is thwarted in
his quest to punish Harry for something Harry has (usually) actually done,
he erupts. It's most noticeable in PoA. That comes across as a kind of
dedication to truth (despite his own derelictions that way). Oh yes, and
there's his undeniable power and ability, to bottle various kinds of
power, even stopper death...
Intelligence, passion, power, mystery... so he's got greasy hair, nothing
a good shampoo won't cure, and if it turns out that it's a protective
potion of some kind, then that's understandable.
Not my type, personally, but I can definitely see the attraction.
=Tamar
Here's my view.
(1) Snape is a deliciously flawed and compelling character.
(2) Alan Rickman is fairly gorgeous.
(3) Because of his proven ability to make baddies charismatic,
Alan Rickman prevents Snape coming across as two-dimensional.
(4) Er ... that's it.
In fiction, as in life, I can forgive men for being moody, obsessive,
self-righteous, vindictive, bad-tempered, rude, and downright childish.
I can even cope with bad hair and skin disorders. I draw the line at
unwarranted nastiness to children -- especially in a teacher.
I guess Snape is just not quite my type ...
I'll give you a little trip through my psyche and try and explain why his
character is so appealing to me.
As my good girlfriend from junior high keeps reminding me, I have a terminal
case of "SDB Syndrome". "Sexy Dark Bastard Syndrome". Ever since I've known
her, we're talking back to the very early 80's but probably since before then,
I have been attracted to dark, complicated, total bastards like a moth to a
flame.
And on top of that, there's the "HST Syndrome" my tendency to totally crush on
hardass male science teachers and morph from disinsterested slacker sitting in
the back of the room waiting for the hour to pass into superachiever teacher's
pet sitting front and center hanging on his every word.
So, for me, the character of professor Snape is a personification of a potent
combination of the archetypes of both the Sexy Dark Bastard _and_ the Hardass
Science Teacher.
And then....I saw the trailer for the first movie, and when I realized who
they'd cast as professor Snape, that little part of my brain where the SDB and
HST syndromes generate from went into complete and total overload.
Maybe it's a generational thing, I talked to one of my good girlfriends the
other day, in her early 40's, professional type. And asked her if she had seen
the new Harry Potter movie. She said yeah, she saw it right after it came out.
I asked her how she liked Alan Rickman in it, and her reply was a wicked
"Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha". Same question to my other fortysomething girlfriend and she
replied with a squeal and a giggle.
What can I say? It's not just me.
Tracy
You can? Where were you when I was younger?
:-)
Chris Morriss
Also at chris....@lakecommunications.com
I think I have this too. hehe :-)
Toni
> As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people would
> find Snape attractive.
Wait... Snape has acne?
If you can't figure out why people would find someone attractive who
doesn't look like you, then there's no way anyone can explain it to you.
Sophie
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"You are unusual," replied Glinda.
"Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<MzNM9.58694$_S2....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
I'm not saying Snape's unattractive because he doesn't look like me. It just
seemed to me that Snape was not described in the book as being attractive in
any way, and in fact his most outstanding feature was his greasy hair. Ok,
the acne part was a bit over the top, and it's true, this is only about the
(shallow) assessment of his looks, but it seemed to me that Snape was the
kind of guy that a lot of guys would look at and say, "I don't get it."
Because, at least on AFHP he seems to be a babe magnet. And I'm not hearing
a lot of, "I really like his *brain*!" It's more like, "Oooh what a sexy
beast," and "I'd love to do him," and "He can take me down to his dungeon
anytime."
So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy syndrome? Do
people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes, driving a
Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and knocking back
a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva McGonagall on a
Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses, just before they rip
each other's clothes off? Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that
his brain is just so sexy that people can ignore his hair making funny
stains on their sofas?
> "Sophie Sensat" <scse...@simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> > Frank Secada <frank....@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> > > would find Snape attractive.
> >
> > Wait... Snape has acne?
> > If you can't figure out why people would find someone attractive who
> > doesn't look like you, then there's no way anyone can explain it to
you.
>
> I'm not saying Snape's unattractive because he doesn't look like me. It
just
> seemed to me that Snape was not described in the book as being attractive
> in any way,
Yes, but can we all remember that he's being described more or less from
the point of view of a boy who hates him? Imagine if the book was about a
girl who liked him?
> and in fact his most outstanding feature was his greasy hair. Ok,
> the acne part was a bit over the top, and it's true, this is only about
the
> (shallow) assessment of his looks, but it seemed to me that Snape was
> the kind of guy that a lot of guys would look at and say, "I don't get
it."
> Because, at least on AFHP he seems to be a babe magnet. And I'm not
> hearing a lot of, "I really like his *brain*!"
Really? I do...
> It's more like, "Oooh what a sexy beast," and "I'd love to do him," and
> "He can take me down to his dungeon anytime."
> So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy syndrome? Do
> people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes, driving a
> Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and knocking
> back a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva
> McGonagall on a Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses, just
> before they rip each other's clothes off?
GYAH! MY EYES!!
> Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that his brain is just so sexy
that people
> can ignore his hair making funny stains on their sofas?
Exactly.
Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his hair is
that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not just that he
doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd think the rest of
him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've gotten no
indication of that.
Catherine Johnson.
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"Early to bed, early to rise, drive through the drive-thru and get me some
fries."
-The Narrator, during an eyecatch for _Cartoon Planet_.
> I'm not saying Snape's unattractive because he doesn't look like me. It just
> seemed to me that Snape was not described in the book as being attractive in
> any way, and in fact his most outstanding feature was his greasy hair.
This is true--after reading the books, I wouldn't have thought of Snape
as attractive. But the movies are a different story. First of all, many
people find Alan Rickman sexy no matter who he's playing.
> So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy syndrome? Do
> people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes, driving a
> Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and knocking back
> a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva McGonagall on a
> Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses, just before they rip
> each other's clothes off?
He doesn't need to. There's a different kind of bad boy syndrome going
on that has nothing to do with James Dean. Movie Snape reminds me of one
person who has always had the "sexy bad boy" thing going on: Trent
Reznor. And Trent Reznor's sexiness has nothing to do with biker jackets
or whiskey. It's about *power.* And angst.
> Or is it the Alan Rickman factor?
Yes.
> Or is it that
> his brain is just so sexy that people can ignore his hair making funny
> stains on their sofas?
Haha... no. I think it's that most people don't imagine the hair-stain
bit. Saying someone is sexy doesn't mean you have to imagine having sex
with them.
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and brave..." By Rainer Maria Rilke
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Must admit Alan Rickman certainly helps, but I must say I never really
pictured Snape as being ugly in the books (despite the greasy hair), there
is still something attractive about strong enigmatic and intelligent men
But doesn't that sound like Justin Timberlake saying, "I just like your.
braaaaaiiinnssss..." ?
>
> > It's more like, "Oooh what a sexy beast," and "I'd love to do him," and
> > "He can take me down to his dungeon anytime."
> > So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy syndrome?
Do
> > people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes, driving a
> > Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and knocking
> > back a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva
> > McGonagall on a Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses, just
> > before they rip each other's clothes off?
>
> GYAH! MY EYES!!
Wassamatta', didn't like that picture? Isn't it true that it's the quiet
ones who surprise you?
>
> > Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that his brain is just so
sexy
> that people
> > can ignore his hair making funny stains on their sofas?
>
> Exactly.
> Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his hair is
> that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not just that he
> doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd think the rest of
> him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've gotten no
> indication of that.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
> --
> dis "able" to reply
> "Early to bed, early to rise, drive through the drive-thru and get me some
> fries."
> -The Narrator, during an eyecatch for _Cartoon Planet_.
>
>
Ok so I'll go for that. Snape is a Rickman look-alike who Harry can't stand,
so he can't bring himself to see Snape's elegance, alabaster skin, chiseled
good looks, and penetrating stare. But maybe Snape should go to Mm. Pomfrey
and get some of that Pert Potion Plus. You know, potion and conditioner in
one?
> Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his hair is
> that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not just that he
> doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd think the rest of
> him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've gotten no
> indication of that.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
Ok, reading this just makes me think of those guys with the aluminum foil
hats...
"Got to protect my brain from government wavelengths..."
LOL
Carmen
Ok, one description I find of Snape is as a guy with greasy black hair, a
hooked nose, and sallow skin.
What is sallow skin? Is that olive skin, or just kind of grayish, not-pale
skin?
Is sallow skin associated with, say, being swarthy and not being out in the
sun enough? Or more like having an overworked liver?
I think where the colour refers to possible liver problems it tends to be
more described as being jaundiced as that tends to be a much more pronounced
colouration.
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote"
> >
> > > Because, at least on AFHP he seems to be a babe magnet. And I'm
> > > not hearing a lot of, "I really like his *brain*!"
> >
> > Really? I do...
>
> But doesn't that sound like Justin Timberlake saying, "I just like your.
> braaaaaiiinnssss..." ?
So, you DO hear it, you just dismiss it? Cuz you said you don't hear it,
period.
> > > It's more like, "Oooh what a sexy beast," and "I'd love to do him,"
and
> > > "He can take me down to his dungeon anytime."
> > > So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy
syndrome?
> Do
> > > people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes, driving
a
> > > Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and
knocking
> > > back a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva
> > > McGonagall on a Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses,
just
> > > before they rip each other's clothes off?
> >
> > GYAH! MY EYES!!
>
> Wassamatta', didn't like that picture? Isn't it true that it's the quiet
> ones who surprise you?
No, sometimes the quiet one is... just the quiet one.
> > > Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that his brain is just
> > > so sexy that people can ignore his hair making funny stains on
> > > their sofas?
> >
> > Exactly.
> > Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his
> > hair is that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not
> > just that he doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd
think
> > the rest of him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've
> > gotten no indication of that.
>
> Ok so I'll go for that. Snape is a Rickman look-alike who Harry can't
> stand, so he can't bring himself to see Snape's elegance, alabaster skin,
You're reading a lot into what I said. Please don't do that.
Catherine Johnson.
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dis "able" to reply
"Burn the land, and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me."
-Theme from _Firefly_.
Ok. I'm getting nailed here. When you said, "Really? I do..." I thought you
meant "... I do like his brain", not "I do hear a lot of 'I really like his
brain'. " Thus my TIC remark to you. I forgot I was dealing with a Potter
Scholar not lightly to be crossed. My apologies. Please forgive me <contrite
look / puppy eyes>. Also, I said I didn't hear *a lot of* Snape's brain is
cute. I did hear a little of it, and some echo of it in the "Snape's cute"
postings, so I wanted to ask for it. I get the feeling there's a "Snape's
hot!" Thread down towards the bottom but I haven't found it yet. I only have
about a thousand posts unread (out of the last 7000 <gasp, out of breath>).
So, am I forgiven? <contrite look / puppy eyes again>
>
> > > > It's more like, "Oooh what a sexy beast," and "I'd love to do him,"
> and
> > > > "He can take me down to his dungeon anytime."
> > > > So I'm just saying, what's the attraction? Is it the bad boy
> syndrome?
> > Do
> > > > people think of Snape wearing a biker jacket under his robes,
driving
> a
> > > > Harley broomstick, smoking and wearing a perpetual sneer, and
> knocking
> > > > back a few rounds of Jim Beam sour mash whiskey with Minerva
> > > > McGonagall on a Friday night, while they trash each other's Houses,
> just
> > > > before they rip each other's clothes off?
> > >
> > > GYAH! MY EYES!!
> >
> > Wassamatta', didn't like that picture? Isn't it true that it's the quiet
> > ones who surprise you?
>
> No, sometimes the quiet one is... just the quiet one.
Now, now, don't hate on Minerva just because she got some. ;-)
>
> > > > Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that his brain is just
> > > > so sexy that people can ignore his hair making funny stains on
> > > > their sofas?
> > >
> > > Exactly.
> > > Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his
> > > hair is that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not
> > > just that he doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd
> think
> > > the rest of him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've
> > > gotten no indication of that.
> >
> > Ok so I'll go for that. Snape is a Rickman look-alike who Harry can't
> > stand, so he can't bring himself to see Snape's elegance, alabaster
skin,
>
> You're reading a lot into what I said. Please don't do that.
Sorry, just being TIC again. Won't happen again. sorry.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
> --
Frank Contrite Secada
<snip>
>> Or is it the Alan Rickman factor? Or is it that his brain is just so
sexy
>that people
>> can ignore his hair making funny stains on their sofas?
>
>Exactly.
>Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his hair
is
>that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not just that
he
>doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd think the rest of
>him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've gotten no
>indication of that.
Still, Sirius indicated that his hair was greasy even back
when they were students at Hogwarts. And when Snape tried
to make the Maruader's Map tell him what it was, the Map
(via Wormtail) suggested he wash his slimy hair... Which,
considering the Map doesn't have eyes, would suggest it
was basing its knowledge of him on what the Maruaders
knew of him when they wrote it...
FW
I can't agree with you more. Reznor and Snape have an extremely powerful
presence. Each time I've seen NIN live I'm amazed at the power Reznor exudes.
He's not a big person, but he just consume the room. Snape also possesses this
quality and I just have to say, because my friends who do not care about NIN or
Harry Potter are tired of hearing me talk about this, I was really amazed when
I went to see the Socerer's Stone and Snape appeared on screen. I couldn't
help wondering if Rowling is an NIN fan. I'm going to go with no, but someone
was watching Perfect Drug. I'll stop now. It's not good to get me started on
Trent or Snape. I revert back to teenage squealing. Trent is not Snape, Trent
is not Snape.....
Emily
I think it's a combination of factors.
A) Snape is a complex person. He's courageous, strong willed,
intelligent; he's also cruel, petty, and sadistic. He defends
those he does not like - probably even to the death - even as
he grinds them down. He's such a mix of good and bad qualities
- and good qualities used for bad, and bad qualities used for
good - that it's hard to peg him down.
B) Snape's motivations are unclear. It is hard to tell if he
is a good guy gone bad, or a bad guy turned good. And what it
is that makes him so full of vitroil for the world. Is he a
tragic character, or a natural born bastich? We don't know.
And that mystery is appealing to many.
C) He's definately not a passive character. If Snape wants
something, he's going to go after it. That's thrilling,
to some people.
FW
Snape is spiteful and maybe a little cruel. But his "unethically" is open to
question. Taking points away from other houses is not really
unethical ------ for the Master of Slytherin anyway. The defining
characteristic of Slytherinians, after all, is that they are "cunning folk,
who use any means to achieve their goals".
As the head of Slytherin House, it is, in fact, Snape's *duty* to set a bad
example for Slytherin students. The goal of the house is to win the House
Cup. Every member of Slytherin should use whatever mean they can to secure
it----- lie, cheat, nobble the competition---whatever. The only thing they
shouldn't do is get caught.
So Snape is perfectly justified in taking points away from Gryfindor
students or even in giving them lower scores.He would be disloyal to the
traditions of his house to do anything less. This may make the other houses
hate him, and Slytherian. But this could be a better lesson for them than
anything they might learn in potions.
Iow, that they are unethical.
Slytherin traditions don't override or replace ethics. They conflict
with them. The perfect Slytherin is unethical by definition--at least,
using the definition "use any means to achieve their ends."
(waves)
but Alan Rickman IS a hottie.
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> > No, he's a cruel, spiteful, often unethical teacher
> > He is, however, a courageous *person*, and a guy who does the
> > right thing even when he probably doesn't want to.
>
> Snape is spiteful and maybe a little cruel. But his "unethically" is open
to
> question.
Opening ridiculing students is ethical? Wanting to flunk a student just
because he's mad at him (read the end of PoA again) is ethical?
> Taking points away from other houses is not really unethical
I'm not talking about that at all.
Catherine Johnson.
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> In article <3E046B88...@cato.tzo.com>, Beth Baxter
> <be...@cato.tzo.com> writes
> >In fiction, as in life, I can forgive men for being moody, obsessive,
> >self-righteous, vindictive, bad-tempered, rude, and downright childish.
> >I can even cope with bad hair and skin disorders.
>
> You can? Where were you when I was younger?
>
Erm ... probably busy leaving my glasses at home, and wandering around
in a myopic haze, bumping into things.
Beth Baxter
>>Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his hair
>>is that way for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not just
>>that he doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd think
>>the rest of him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've
>>gotten no indication of that.
>
>Still, Sirius indicated that his hair was greasy even back
>when they were students at Hogwarts. And when Snape tried
>to make the Maruader's Map tell him what it was, the Map
>(via Wormtail) suggested he wash his slimy hair... Which,
>considering the Map doesn't have eyes, would suggest it
>was basing its knowledge of him on what the Maruaders
>knew of him when they wrote it...
I suggested that Snape was using a potion on his hair even before he
arrived at Hogwarts. We've been told that Snape was fascinated by Dark
Arts and knew more about it when he arrived for his first year than most
seventh year students. He may have had to know about protective potions
because of where he came from, just as Harry had to know how to deal with
the Dursleys (mostly by staying out of the way). Remember, we know
absolutely nothing else about Snape's origins or way of life; we know only
what little Harry has heard (and that could be all rumors).
On the other hand, maybe Snape just has greasy hair, the way Borgin has
oily hair - as a caricature. But maybe Borgin is also using a protective
potion...
=Tamar
>> > When sallow is used to describe skin tone it tends to mean that
>> > the skin has a slightly yellowish tint to it.
>>
>> Is sallow skin associated with, say, being swarthy and not being out
>> in the sun enough? Or more like having an overworked liver?
>
>Depends I mean here we are looking at a general description of a person
>so I would say it is more meant to suggest a slightly Mediterranean
>appearance particularly combined with the dark eyes,
<snip>
>Personally I always pictured him as perhaps somewhere in his background
>having some Italian blood.
However, a more usual description of Mediterranean looks is "olive" skin.
Madame Maxime has "olive" skin and "glossy" hair (which to me means oily
but with a positive slant). She also has a large nose but it has a more
positively-phrased description. (No, I don't seriously think Snape is
half giant.)
>I think where the colour refers to possible liver problems it tends to
>be more described as being jaundiced as that tends to be a much more
>pronounced colouration.
Yes. (Though "jaundiced" certainly describes Snape's apparent
personality, metaphorically.)
Some Caucasians are pinkish, some are more yellowish. The yellowish kind
are sallow-skinned. I have the impression that the pink type think the
sallow type aren't well and that the sallow type think the pink ones have
a weakness that makes them sunburn too easily, but that's a caricature in
both directions.
=Tamar
>Iow, that they are unethical.
>
>Slytherin traditions don't override or replace ethics. They conflict
>with them. The perfect Slytherin is unethical by definition--at least,
>using the definition "use any means to achieve their ends."
Not necessarily. I always saw the Slytherins as being more opportunistic than
"evil" or "unethical". While opportunism can lead to unethical behavior, it
isn't always the case.
If the easiest means of achieving a particular goal were to just sit back,
play nice and follow the rules, they would do just that.
However, if a Slytherin needed to step on a few people to reach a goal, he
would do that as well...
Just my opinion.
Ken
JMO.
> >As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> >would find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality?
> >His flowing locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
>
> I'll give you a little trip through my psyche and try and explain why his
> character is so appealing to me.
> As my good girlfriend from junior high keeps reminding me, I have a
> terminal case of "SDB Syndrome". "Sexy Dark Bastard Syndrome".
LOL!
Sorry. See, there's an anime called _Bastard!!_ (yes that's the name.
Yes, with two [not one, not three, but two] exclamation points), and the
main (and title) character is called Dark Schneider. So "Dark Bastard"
strikes me as kinda funny... ^_^
> Ever since I've known her, we're talking back to the very early 80's but
> probably since before then, I have been attracted to dark, complicated,
> total bastards like a moth to a flame.
Indeed. Sometimes I actually prefer the bad guys. A lot of my favorite
anime characters are either the bad guys (Soujiro from _Rurouni Kenshin_,
the Amazon Trio from _Sailor Moon_, Dilandau from _Escaflowne_), or the
gruff, take-no-prisoner good guys (Vejita from _DragonballZ_, Saitou from
_Rurouni Kenshin_, Alucard from _Hellsing_). There's something very
appealing about a guy who doesn't take crap from anyone. Course, I doubt
I'd actually want to date any of these guys (besides some of them are gay,
and... well, don't get me started on Dilandau. Wooo... IN-Sane). But as
a fantasy... yeah. ^_^
> And on top of that, there's the "HST Syndrome" my tendency to totally
> crush on hardass male science teachers and morph from disinsterested
> slacker sitting in the back of the room waiting for the hour to pass into
> superachiever teacher's pet sitting front and center hanging on his every
> word.
Hey, if it helped your grades, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. ^_^
> So, for me, the character of professor Snape is a personification of a
potent
> combination of the archetypes of both the Sexy Dark Bastard _and_ the
> Hardass Science Teacher.
Oooh.. A double whammy... ^_^
> And then....I saw the trailer for the first movie, and when I realized
who
> they'd cast as professor Snape, that little part of my brain where the
> SDB and HST syndromes generate from went into complete and total
> overload.
I can imagine... O_O
> Maybe it's a generational thing, I talked to one of my good girlfriends
the
> other day, in her early 40's, professional type. And asked her if she
had
> seen the new Harry Potter movie. She said yeah, she saw it right after
it
> came out. I asked her how she liked Alan Rickman in it, and her reply
> was a wicked "Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha".
It's Kodachi! RUN!
> Same question to my other fortysomething girlfriend and she replied with
a
> squeal and a giggle.
O_O
Ummm.. 'kay.
> What can I say? It's not just me.
Not by a long shot. ^_^
Catherine Johnson. "Moero, Moero, MOERO!!"
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Because, at least on AFHP he seems to be a babe
> > > > > magnet. And I'm not hearing a lot of, "I really like his
*brain*!"
> > > >
> > > > Really? I do...
> > >
> > > But doesn't that sound like Justin Timberlake saying, "I just like
your.
> > > braaaaaiiinnssss..." ?
> >
> > So, you DO hear it, you just dismiss it? Cuz you said you don't hear
it,
> > period.
>
> Ok. I'm getting nailed here.
<Beavis laugh>
Sorry... ^_^
> When you said, "Really? I do..." I thought you meant "... I do like his
> brain", not "I do hear a lot of 'I really like his brain'. "
Ooh, ok.
> Thus my TIC remark to you.
"TIC"?
> I forgot I was dealing with a Potter Scholar not lightly to be crossed.
Wow, I'm flattered. ^_^
Er... I think?
> My apologies. Please forgive me <contrite look / puppy eyes>.
Awww.. it's ok...
{{{Frank}}}
> Also, I said I didn't hear *a lot of* Snape's brain is cute. I did hear a
> little of it, and some echo of it in the "Snape's cute" postings, so I
> wanted to ask for it.
I'm not sure what you mean?
> I get the feeling there's a "Snape's hot!" Thread down towards the
> bottom but I haven't found it yet. I only have about a thousand posts
> unread (out of the last 7000 <gasp, out of breath>).
O_O
Wow... Poor Frank.
> So, am I forgiven? <contrite look / puppy eyes again>
Of course. ^_^
<Snape and McGonagall>
> > > > GYAH! MY EYES!!
> > >
> > > Wassamatta', didn't like that picture? Isn't it true that it's the
> > > quiet ones who surprise you?
> >
> > No, sometimes the quiet one is... just the quiet one.
>
> Now, now, don't hate on Minerva just because she got some. ;-)
GYAH!
Stop that.
> Frank Contrite Secada
That's a funny middle name. ^_^
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> cath...@feablenm.net says...
>
> >Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that his
> >hair is that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or something, not
> >just that he doesn't take care of it. If that were the case, you'd
think
> >the rest of him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and we've
> >gotten no indication of that.
>
> Still, Sirius indicated that his hair was greasy even back
> when they were students at Hogwarts.
Maybe he's been using it all his life? Or at least a lot of it?
My point was, if his hair is greasy because he, say, never washes it,
wouldn't there be other signs given that he never bathes? Or what, he
bathes and just doesn't wash is hair?
> I think it's a combination of factors.
> A) Snape is a complex person. He's courageous, strong
> willed, intelligent; he's also cruel, petty, and sadistic. He
> defends those he does not like - probably even to the
> death - even as he grinds them down. He's such a mix of
> good and bad qualities - and good qualities used for bad,
> and bad qualities used for good - that it's hard to peg him
> down.
> B) Snape's motivations are unclear. It is hard to tell if he
> is a good guy gone bad, or a bad guy turned good. And
> what it is that makes him so full of vitroil for the world. Is
> he a tragic character, or a natural born bastich? We don't
> know. And that mystery is appealing to many.
> C) He's definately not a passive character. If Snape wants
> something, he's going to go after it. That's thrilling,
> to some people.
By Jove, I think he's got it!
Couldn't have said it better myself, Frank W. ^_^
Before the movies: I don't know if I would say I found him "attractive"
before... more "intriguing." Like, "What makes this guy tick? What has
driven him to be this way?" Some of his more unlikeable characteristics
kept me from finding him completely attractive.
HOWEVER, after the movies: Yowza! Alan Rickman plays Snape in such a deep,
dark, yummy way that he has made the character irresistable. His facial
expressions, his gestures, the way he speaks... all say, "There's so much of
me that you don't know." And baby, I wanna find out! :-)
Truth be told, I have adored Mr. Rickman in practically everything I have
seen him in. Heck, when he was Sheriff of Nottingham in "Robin Hood: Prince
of Thieves," about to consumate his marriage to Maid Marion while she
screams for Robin, I was thinking, "What are you, nuts? Kevin Costner can
go take a flying leap! I'll trade places with you!"
hubba hubba
Carmen
(whose heart is doing a rapid pitty-pat right now )
Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning over boiling
cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his scalp sweating making his
hair look greasy. Also don't forget that he is being described from a
teenage boy's point of view which of course may make a difference. I would
agree that if his hair was greasy due to poor hygiene then there would be
other things mentioned, like his robes smelling etc...
On 20 Dec 2002 Frank Secada wrote:
> As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people would
> find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality? His flowing
> locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
>
Now that is a very good question.
Particularly for me, as I've just been jolted into the shocking
realisation (via the suggestion that he might end up being killed off in
the next book) that Snape is in fact *my favourite character*. I always
believed it was Hermione, but the thought of Snape getting killed...!
Of course, this could be the fact that by narrative logic Rowling is a
great deal more likely to kill off Snape than Hermione, but even so,
it's a distinctly worrying discovery.
All right. Let me try to analyse this. First statement:
I do *not* find Snape sexy. But then in my case I really wouldn't expect to.
Therefore his offputting physical appearance has nothing to do with
it... or so you might think...
Second statement:
Actually, I have a nasty feeling that physical appearance has a good
deal to do with it. You see, when I come across a character with a thin,
sallow face, lank dark hair, uneven yellow teeth, big nose, unpleasant
expression, high intelligence and a bitterly sarcastic tongue... I can't
help but identify with him! This is doubtless why I mentally picture
Snape, like myself, as being somewhat under average height, although the
books do *not* state this.
Third statement:
I'm sorry, but brains and sarcasm *are* an attractive combination :-)
When watching Hollywood films, this view does have the slight
disadvantage in that one tends to end up sympathising with the
(British-accented, suave, Machiavellian) villain, rather than with the
brawny blond all-American hero... but then what else would you expect
from a Basil Rathbone fan?
(As I've said before, I'd *really* have liked to be able to see Rathbone
play Snape. <grin> Especially in the duelling scene, come to think of
it.)
Fourth statement:
Snape is actually a very intriguing character. We know more about his
past than practically any of the other teachers, but we still don't know
*why* he is the way he is. It's not a coincidence that the three most
interesting adults - Lupin, Black and Snape - all have 'dark' elements
to their history.
Also, the situation that he hates Harry and yet has to protect him is
dramatically fascinating. I've always been attracted to this kind of
conflict in fiction, although in standard fantasy convention it usually
ends up with the protagonists, forced to co-operate despite themselves
in order to save the kingdom, realising that actually they've been in
love all along and falling rapturously into each others' arms in the
final chapter.
Here we have (to my mind) a much more interesting outcome, in that Snape
genuinely dislikes and resents Harry and yet does the right thing
*anyway*.
Fifth statement:
Yes, I'm afraid I think there *is* an Angst Factor. There's a sort of
unconscious feeling that anyone who is that obviously bitter must be
Suffering Inside, and I think there's some truth to it; there is
pleasure to be had in hitting back indiscriminately at the world for
those who feel that the world has spent its time picking
indiscriminately on them.
So one ends up with... well, not exactly the kiss-it-better syndrome
that some female posters to this thread seem to outline, but certainly a
sort of sympathy that is, on the face of it, unjustified.
So, what do I want to see for Snape in the future?
Well, I certainly don't want to see him reformed - the snide asides are
the real appeal of the character! I don't really want to see him
redeemed and matey with Harry, although I'd quite like to see him do
something heroic and achieve that Order of Merlin he wants so much :-)
I really hope he *doesn't* turn out to have been unrequitedly in love
with Lily Evans, because, as many other people have remarked, that would
be very, very cheesy. On the other hand I admit I'd like to learn what
makes him tick (I just hope it's something else!)
One idea that does have appeal is to see him turn his talents at
unpleasantness to good use. I can visualise him getting captured by
Death-Eaters and using his sarcastic tongue to make them look really
inadequate, before pulling off an escape in some way that no-one will
expect and bringing back vital information. For those of you with an
angst fixation, doubtless he can get tortured as well :-)
I don't want to see a remorseful or repentant Snape, because to my mind
that would totally undermine the character. I want him to go out
sneering and defiant, with a final 'Bah humbug'!
"I'm reviewing... the situation...
Snape's a bad'un and a bad'un he shall stay..."
(with apologies to Lionel Bart)
Looking at the responses to this thread to date, I'm interested to note
that they are almost all female. Is there a sex split on this issue? Or
is it just the case that most of the male half of the group is
automatically disqualifying itself from comment on the assumption that
"attractive=sexy"?
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On 21 Dec 2002 calico wrote:
> "Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:<MzNM9.58694$_S2....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> > would find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality?
> > His flowing locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
> Alan Rickman gave more dimensions to Snape, so did Jason Isaacs to
> Lucius Malfoy. They are more attractive in the movies than in the
> books. ;)
I wasn't over-enthused by Alan Rickman's performance as Snape (the bad
make-up job didn't help, and he doesn't actually get much screen time
even in the first film), but I'll grant that Jason Isaacs definitely
made me take a second look at Lucius Malfoy.
And after seeing 'The Two Towers', I'll even admit that long pale hair
can look good on men :-)
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> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote
> > > cath...@feablenm.net says...
> > >
> > > >Besides, I'm kinda leaning towards what others have said--that
> > > >his hair is that was for a reason. Some sort of potion or
something,
> > > >not just that he doesn't take care of it. If that were the case,
you'd
> > > >think the rest of him would be in a similar state of disrepair, and
> > > >we've gotten no indication of that.
> > >
> > > Still, Sirius indicated that his hair was greasy even back
> > > when they were students at Hogwarts.
> >
> > Maybe he's been using it all his life? Or at least a lot of it?
> > My point was, if his hair is greasy because he, say, never washes it,
> > wouldn't there be other signs given that he never bathes? Or what,
> > he bathes and just doesn't wash is hair?
>
> Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning over
> boiling cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his scalp sweating
> making his hair look greasy.
Oh, that's a thought...
Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
> Also don't forget that he is being described from a teenage boy's point
> of view which of course may make a difference.
Exactly; a point I made that most people seem to ignore (never mind that
people are using that exact same reasoning to justify Cho's minimal
characterization).
> I would agree that if his hair was greasy due to poor hygiene then there
> would be other things mentioned, like his robes smelling etc...
Yep.
Catherine Johnson.
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LOL.... Snape in a hair net, now there is a sight that is guaranteed to
scare the living daylights out of anyone. Could only get worse if he was
later spotted ladling out lunch..... LOL
>
> > Also don't forget that he is being described from a teenage boy's point
> > of view which of course may make a difference.
>
> Exactly; a point I made that most people seem to ignore (never mind that
> people are using that exact same reasoning to justify Cho's minimal
> characterization).
Exactly I mean what teenager knows an awful lot about a person they have a
crush on in school, you notice the things that attract you but for the most
part you feel too embarrassed to go up to that person and talk to them to
find out more about them.
>
> > I would agree that if his hair was greasy due to poor hygiene then there
> > would be other things mentioned, like his robes smelling etc...
>
> Yep.
Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee or red
wine.... of may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps they
just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding world..... LOL
Never thought of it like that. Ok, Byronic. Sounds good.
Oh you mean THIS? <just kidding>
>
> > Frank Contrite Secada
>
> That's a funny middle name. ^_^
>
> Catherine Johnson.
> --
Me mum gave it to me. I think she wanted a girl. (Contritia?) ;-)
Snape has yellow teeth?
Developing a thing for Gandalf, are we? ;-)
> "Igenlode Wordsmith" <fu...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote:
>
> > And after seeing 'The Two Towers', I'll even admit that long pale
> > hair can look good on men :-)
>
> Developing a thing for Gandalf, are we? ;-)
LOL!!
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off ala Schneider to do major magic.
gets really rattled...)
FW
> cath...@feablenm.net says...
> >"Tracyarts" <trac...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> >
> >> As my good girlfriend from junior high keeps reminding me,
> >> I have a terminal case of "SDB Syndrome". "Sexy Dark
> > Bastard Syndrome".
> >
> >LOL!
> >Sorry. See, there's an anime called _Bastard!!_ and the
> >main (and title) character is called Dark Schneider. So
> >"Dark Bastard" strikes me as kinda funny... ^_^
>
> (has an immediate mental image of Snape ripping his clothes
> off ala Schneider to do major magic.
O_O
Harry: "MY EYES! MY EYES!!" <whips glasses off quickly>
Hermione: "There goes MY sex drive..."
Ron: "That's just *disturbing*..."
> gets really rattled...)
Even I'm a bit squicked about that one, though I'm not sure why...
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awfully boring down there. I hope he had toys."
-Eldritch, alt.fan.harry-potter.
Except for knocking him out (with the help of Ron and Hermione).
>So I do think Snape is a good teacher for it. One of
>my High School teachers used to run her class like a college course. It was
>an Advanced Placement class, but I had other AP classes that were not as
>hard. We used to all talk about the extra homework and how extrict she was
>with everything... but then when we went to college, we realized that she
>was just prepering us for what was coming... no other teacher did... maybe
>Snape is teaching a lesson like this one. Life is not fair, be prepared for
>people that take advantage of their position.
JKR did say in an interview that Dumbledore feels that horrible teachers
like Snape are an important lesson. But I don't think that's the only
reason Snape is at Hogwarts.
=Tamar
>Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee
Mmmm...coffee... or chocolate...
>or red wine....
Does he ever drink... wine? I know McGonagall does, and Hagrid likes
his mead and beer, and Fudge drinks hard liquor. Flitwick doesn't seem to
drink at all.
>or maybe Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine,
Ick. If so, his fingers ought to be stained too, though with all the
potion stains, maybe nobody would notice.
>perhaps they just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the
>Wizarding world..... LOL
If he's using a potion on his hair, maybe he's also drinking a potion
that yellows his teeth. Aside from coffee or tea, I mean.
We know nothing about his family. We have no idea what part of the
wizarding world he comes from. Was he raised by undead, and needs
the potion(s) to stay normal? Does he have the equivalent of Uncle
Algie dropping in occasionally?
Of course, there are normal variations of tooth color anyway,
and most people's teeth turn slightly yellower as they age.
=Tamar
<snipperoo!>
>Looking at the responses to this thread to date, I'm interested to note
>that they are almost all female. Is there a sex split on this issue? Or
>is it just the case that most of the male half of the group is
>automatically disqualifying itself from comment on the assumption that
>"attractive=sexy"?
A few years ago we had some reports from the male half of the group
that some of them also found Snape very sexy, and that was before
the films.
=Tamar
> "Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Snape has yellow teeth?
> >
> Won't swear to it but I thought that was part of his
> description.....
"Snape's uneven, yellowish teeth were bared."
-PoA, chapter 14 ("Snape's Grudge"), p 285, Arthur & Levine hb
edition.
^_^
The HP Lexicon. Bloody useful. ^_^
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/
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Good one, I totally forgot about that one... even though I really, really
enjoyed it :)
>"Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:au7oam$amc$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
>> > "Frank White" <fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com> wrote
>> > > cath...@feablenm.net says...
>> > >
>> >
>> > Maybe he's been using it all his life? Or at least a lot of it?
>> > My point was, if his hair is greasy because he, say, never washes it,
>> > wouldn't there be other signs given that he never bathes? Or what,
>> > he bathes and just doesn't wash is hair?
>>
>> Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning over
>> boiling cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his scalp sweating
>> making his hair look greasy.
>
>Oh, that's a thought...
>Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
GAAK !
(Does double take ...)
Simon.
'Be Seeing You.
Who is number one?
>In article <au81jv$6os$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
>Dragon Friend <dragonNO...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee
>
>Mmmm...coffee... or chocolate...
>
>>or red wine....
>
>Does he ever drink... wine? I know McGonagall does, and Hagrid likes
>his mead and beer, and Fudge drinks hard liquor. Flitwick doesn't seem to
>drink at all.
Flitwick asked for the fancy cocktail in PoA in the 3 Broomsticks.
>
>>or maybe Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine,
>
>Ick. If so, his fingers ought to be stained too, though with all the
>potion stains, maybe nobody would notice.
>
>>perhaps they just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the
>>Wizarding world..... LOL
>
>If he's using a potion on his hair, maybe he's also drinking a potion
>that yellows his teeth. Aside from coffee or tea, I mean.
>
>We know nothing about his family. We have no idea what part of the
>wizarding world he comes from. Was he raised by undead, and needs
>the potion(s) to stay normal? Does he have the equivalent of Uncle
>Algie dropping in occasionally?
>
>Of course, there are normal variations of tooth color anyway,
>and most people's teeth turn slightly yellower as they age.
>
>=Tamar
Well teeth are naturally a light shade of yellow and the tooth
whitening has come about as part of the marketing ploy to sell
toothpaste.
Obviously it works.
He is (the actor) in the age group to have tetracyclene teeth as well. My
dentist informed me that my yellow tinged teeth was the result of being
given tetracyclene for tonsillitis before my adult teeth came in. They
stopped doing that around 1960 in the US. I really don't know what the
medical practices were elsewhere.
Later
Kal
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pretending I'm not there.
> I wasn't over-enthused by Alan Rickman's performance as Snape
> (the bad make-up job didn't help, and he doesn't actually get much
> screen time even in the first film),
As I get more into Snape, and re-read the books, I can see why Rickman's
upset about his rather small role in the movies--he does get a lot more
time in the books.
> but I'll grant that Jason Isaacs definitely made me take
> a second look at Lucius Malfoy.
Indeed. I recently saw a quick clip of him sans wig He looks really..
odd. ^_^
> And after seeing 'The Two Towers', I'll even admit that long pale
> hair can look good on men :-)
Well, *duh*. What took you so long? ^_^
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> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning
> > > over boiling cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his
> > > scalp sweating making his hair look greasy.
> >
> > Oh, that's a thought...
> > Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
>
> LOL.... Snape in a hair net, now there is a sight that is guaranteed
> to scare the living daylights out of anyone.
Indeed.
<pictures kids running in terror>
Snape: "What?"
> Could only get worse if he was later spotted ladling out lunch..... LOL
...
Would you want a guy like Snape, who as an extensive knowledge of poisons
and potions that can do all kinds of... unpleasant things to you, serving
YOU food?
I thought not.
> > > I would agree that if his hair was greasy due to poor hygiene then
> > > there would be other things mentioned, like his robes smelling etc...
> >
> > Yep.
>
> Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee
> or red wine....
Or maybe tea? Can't it stain your teeth, as well?
> of may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps they
> just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding world.....
LOL
Could be. ^_^
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> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote
<Snape and McGonagall>
> > GYAH!
> > Stop that.
>
> Oh you mean THIS? <just kidding>
O_O
>_<
> > > Frank Contrite Secada
> >
> > That's a funny middle name. ^_^
>
> Me mum gave it to me.
You should give it back.
> I think she wanted a girl. (Contritia?) ;-)
I... see.
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> >"Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning
> >> over boiling cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his
> >> scalp sweating making his hair look greasy.
> >
> >Oh, that's a thought...
> >Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
>
> GAAK !
> (Does double take ...)
Is that a "no"?
^_~
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> A few years ago we had some reports from the male half of the group
> that some of them also found Snape very sexy, and that was before
> the films.
... really?
Interesting.
> In article <au81jv$6os$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> Dragon Friend <dragonNO...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee
>
> Mmmm...coffee... or chocolate...
Well, a DADA teacher would need lots of chocolate.
> >or red wine....
>
> Does he ever drink... wine?
*snicker*
I can see Snape as a vodka drinker.
Sophie
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"Am I really wonderful?" asked the Scarecrow.
"You are unusual," replied Glinda.
Yes but it would soon use that to his advantage as he likes terrifying first
years...........
>
> > Could only get worse if he was later spotted ladling out lunch..... LOL
>
> ...
> Would you want a guy like Snape, who as an extensive knowledge of poisons
> and potions that can do all kinds of... unpleasant things to you, serving
> YOU food?
> I thought not.
No but I can think of a few people I have known in my life who I would like
him to serve potions, oops sorry I mean food to *wicked grin*
>
> > > > I would agree that if his hair was greasy due to poor hygiene then
> > > > there would be other things mentioned, like his robes smelling
etc...
> > >
> > > Yep.
> >
> > Also yellowed teeth could mean he enjoys drinking far too much coffee
> > or red wine....
>
> Or maybe tea? Can't it stain your teeth, as well?
Yes it can if you drink it without milk, but not sure how common that is as
I tend to get very strange looks when I request tea without milk or lemon.
Sorry just really dislike the taste of milk in tea, even though I like milk,
just don't pollute my tea with it :-)
>
> > of may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps they
> > just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding world.....
> LOL
>
> Could be. ^_^
May be we should send him a years supply as his christmas present.......
Think a delivery like that would take what... 3 Eagle Owls to deliver? ;-)
On 23 Dec 2002 Dragon Friend wrote:
[snip Snape's hair]
> Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning over boiling
> cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his scalp sweating making his
> hair look greasy.
It occurred to me a couple of days ago that maybe the reason why he
tends to wear plain black robes is so that splashes and stains won't
show - the reverse of the doctor's white coat. Oh, and perhaps so that
he can wipe his hands on them :-)
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>"Simon." <sim...@sjbwool.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
>> >"Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Must admit I wondered if it has something to do with leaning
>> >> over boiling cauldrons all day, combination of steam and his
>> >> scalp sweating making his hair look greasy.
>> >
>> >Oh, that's a thought...
>> >Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
>>
>> GAAK !
>> (Does double take ...)
>
>Is that a "no"?
>^_~
The image made my eyeballs melt... ;-}
--
>(SNIP)
>> >
>> >Of course, there are normal variations of tooth color anyway,
>> >and most people's teeth turn slightly yellower as they age.
>> >
>> >=Tamar
>
>He is (the actor) in the age group to have tetracyclene teeth as well. My
>dentist informed me that my yellow tinged teeth was the result of being
>given tetracyclene for tonsillitis before my adult teeth came in. They
>stopped doing that around 1960 in the US. I really don't know what the
>medical practices were elsewhere.
Well I never.. Glad I was born after 10960 then.
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;-)
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Found a new way to use a time turner, I would think. Hey, maybe he can tell
us what happens next in the stories?
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote
<Snape's greasy hair>
> > > > Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
> > >
> > > LOL.... Snape in a hair net, now there is a sight that is guaranteed
> > > to scare the living daylights out of anyone.
> >
> > Indeed.
> > <pictures kids running in terror>
> > Snape: "What?"
>
> Yes but it would soon use that to his advantage as he likes terrifying
first
> years...........
True. O_O
Maybe he should come in in curlers and... er, I'll stop.
> > > Could only get worse if he was later spotted ladling out
> > > lunch..... LOL
> >
> > ...
> > Would you want a guy like Snape, who as an extensive knowledge of
> > poisons and potions that can do all kinds of... unpleasant things to
you,
> > serving YOU food?
> > I thought not.
>
> No but I can think of a few people I have known in my life who I would
> like him to serve potions, oops sorry I mean food to *wicked grin*
True, true.
> > Or maybe tea? Can't it stain your teeth, as well?
>
> Yes it can if you drink it without milk, but not sure how common that is
Few Americans take their tea with milk, actually. I think that's a
European thing (I think they do it in Japan, too).
> as I tend to get very strange looks when I request tea without milk or
> lemon.
In the US, it'd probably be just the opposite, at least the milk. Lemon is
pretty common, though.
> Sorry just really dislike the taste of milk in tea, even though I like
milk,
> just don't pollute my tea with it :-)
Heh, I know the feeling. I've been known to order burgers without
onions--and onion rings. ^_^ You can like two kinds of food without
wanting to have them together.
> > > of may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps
> > > they just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding
> > > world..... LOL
> >
> > Could be. ^_^
>
> May be we should send him a years supply as his christmas present.......
> Think a delivery like that would take what... 3 Eagle Owls to deliver?
;-)
Ouch!
Actually, toothpastes lasts a long time... you wouldn't need that much.
^_^
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> On 23 Dec 2002 Dragon Friend wrote:
>
> It occurred to me a couple of days ago that maybe the reason
> why he tends to wear plain black robes is so that splashes and
> stains won't show - the reverse of the doctor's white coat. Oh,
> and perhaps so that he can wipe his hands on them :-)
Heeeeeeeeeyyyy... could be.
Just for the record, though, very few doctors wear white anymore. Though
they do tend to wear light colors.
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> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> >"Simon." <sim...@sjbwool.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
<Snape's greasy hair>
> >> >Maybe he needs a hair net. ^_^
> >>
> >> GAAK !
> >> (Does double take ...)
> >
> >Is that a "no"?
> >^_~
>
> The image made my eyeballs melt... ;-}
Woo-hoo!
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-Theme from _Firefly_.
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH my eyes..... sorry that thought even had me
scared and I like Severus. Besides when he took the curlers out he would
have ringlets and we don't want to go there........
>
> > > > Could only get worse if he was later spotted ladling out
> > > > lunch..... LOL
> > >
> > > ...
> > > Would you want a guy like Snape, who as an extensive knowledge of
> > > poisons and potions that can do all kinds of... unpleasant things to
> you,
> > > serving YOU food?
> > > I thought not.
> >
> > No but I can think of a few people I have known in my life who I would
> > like him to serve potions, oops sorry I mean food to *wicked grin*
>
> True, true.
>
> > > Or maybe tea? Can't it stain your teeth, as well?
> >
> > Yes it can if you drink it without milk, but not sure how common that is
>
> Few Americans take their tea with milk, actually. I think that's a
> European thing (I think they do it in Japan, too).
Not sure quite how widespread in Europe, milk in tea may even be more of a
British thing as I know when I went to Austria it wasn't thought of as
strange and friends in Sweden tell me it is more common there to drink tea
and coffee black, think I may move to Sweden they seem to have better
medical treatment, better wheelchair access and I wouldn't be treated as a
freak for wanting my freaking tea and coffee black........ oh and tall men
with blue eyes and fair hair seem very appealing LOL (well if I can't have
Alan Rickman.............)
>
> > as I tend to get very strange looks when I request tea without milk or
> > lemon.
>
> In the US, it'd probably be just the opposite, at least the milk. Lemon
is
> pretty common, though.
Not so anti-lemon in tea just anti-milk :-)
>
> > Sorry just really dislike the taste of milk in tea, even though I like
> milk,
> > just don't pollute my tea with it :-)
>
> Heh, I know the feeling. I've been known to order burgers without
> onions--and onion rings. ^_^ You can like two kinds of food without
> wanting to have them together.
Exactly, why can't people understand that?
>
> > > > of may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps
> > > > they just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding
> > > > world..... LOL
> > >
> > > Could be. ^_^
> >
> > May be we should send him a years supply as his christmas present.......
> > Think a delivery like that would take what... 3 Eagle Owls to deliver?
> ;-)
>
> Ouch!
> Actually, toothpastes lasts a long time... you wouldn't need that much.
> ^_^
True, we just need owls with better aim than Erol, not sure Severus would
like getting his gift dumped in his food....... LOL or having owls falling
into his coffee........ ROFL
>
Dragon Friend [Still sniggering at the thopught of Snape having to clean his
breakfast egg off of his robes after delivery of toothpaste]
Probably just as well (FEnM) or he would have seen your comment about
curlers... LOL
>
Dragon Friend
>"Troels Forchhammer" <Tro...@ThisIsFake.dk> wrote in message
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>> "Simon." wrote:
>> >
>> > Well I never.. Glad I was born after 10960 then.
>> ^^^^^
Oh.
>>
>> Quite a bit before your time, aren't you?
>>
a zero got in there somewhere :)
>> ;-)
>>
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>
>Found a new way to use a time turner, I would think. Hey, maybe he can tell
>us what happens next in the stories?
Nope, the books STILL weren't published !
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Who is number one?
>
>Later
>Kal
Evil can be very erotic.
> "Frank Secada" <frank....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > As an acne-free guy with clean hair, I can't figure out why people
> > would find Snape attractive. Why is that? Is it his warm personality?
> > His flowing locks? His Grecian good looks? What's his secret?
>
> Evil can be very erotic.
True. But he's NOT evil; he's much more complicated than that. And THAT'S
why he's appealing.
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-George Carlin.
Though I think the statement would be equally true whichever zero
was superfluous, I think it would make more sense if it's the
first zero we have to disregard.
I especially hope so if your were born at a time that makes it
relevant to distinguish between the intended number and the
nearest whole century ... (otherwise Tennant would probably
have to correct the average age considerably upwards, though it
might be nice for me to end below the average ;).
>> Found a new way to use a time turner, I would think. Hey, maybe he can tell
>> us what happens next in the stories?
>
> Nope, the books STILL weren't published !
Nyaaaaaaarrghhhh !
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- "I don't know. People who repair quantums, I suppose."
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>"Igenlode Wordsmith" <fu...@redneck.gacracker.org> wrote in message
>news:200212262003...@gacracker.org...
>
>> On 23 Dec 2002 Dragon Friend wrote:
>>
>> It occurred to me a couple of days ago that maybe the reason
>> why he tends to wear plain black robes is so that splashes and
>> stains won't show - the reverse of the doctor's white coat. Oh,
>> and perhaps so that he can wipe his hands on them :-)
>
>Heeeeeeeeeyyyy... could be.
>Just for the record, though, very few doctors wear white anymore. Though
>they do tend to wear light colors.
Just so long as they don't wear butcher's aprons...
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'Be Seeing You.
Who is number one?
>
>Catherine Johnson.
Don't tell Severus Snape how much a bloodstained one of those could scare
the first years he'll want one immediately ;-)
On 24 Dec 2002 Frank Secada wrote:
>
> "Igenlode Wordsmith" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
> news:2002122322281...@gacracker.org...
> > You see, when I come across a character with a thin,
> > sallow face, lank dark hair, uneven yellow teeth, big nose, unpleasant
> > expression, high intelligence and a bitterly sarcastic tongue... I can't
> > help but identify with him!
I've just remembered that you can verify some of this by taking a
look at http://www.tapestryofstars.com/radwrogues/rogues_fj.html , by
the way. Scroll down to 'I' and you'll find a pretty good likeness :-/
[snip]
> > (As I've said before, I'd *really* have liked to be able to see Rathbone
> > play Snape. <grin> Especially in the duelling scene, come to think of
> > it.)
I don't believe it... O yes! o yes! o dearest Auntie Beeb!
The BBC is about to run a whole *week* of Basil Rathbone's Sherlock
Holmes films for me, starting on Sunday. And I don't believe I've
previously seen *any* of them! :-)
Now if any of you Rickman fans would like to tune in... <wicked grin>
[snip]
> > Looking at the responses to this thread to date, I'm interested to note
> > that they are almost all female. Is there a sex split on this issue? Or
> > is it just the case that most of the male half of the group is
> > automatically disqualifying itself from comment on the assumption that
> > "attractive=sexy"?
> I liked this post a lot. I want to think about it before I respond,
I'd be interested to hear your answers... :-)
[snip]
> Of course the "Snape is sexy" faction
> doesn't disqualify all the men, if you believe the fanfic. :-)
As it happens... having somewhat more free time than usual before
Christmas, I decided to start telling myself a Snape story. Just for
a change.
(Well, Danik doesn't get to go to the South Seas until next year...)
And having spent three days finding out what happened next, it
dawned on me that it was a good one, and worth writing down. You never
can tell, until you get to the end.
Being now in the throes of writing the very end of Day One of three, I
get the feeling there might just be a brand-new Snapefic coming out in a
couple of weeks' time. A bit of understated angst. A few in-jokes. A
worm that turns. A rather nasty monster, and some creative use of the
Dark Arts.
But - sorry, ladies - absolutely no 'shipping' :-)
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> "Fish Eye no Miko" <cath...@feablenm.net> wrote:
> > "Dragon Friend" <dragonNO...@hotmail.com> wrote
<Snape's greasy hair>
> > Maybe he should come in in curlers and... er, I'll stop.
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH my eyes.....
Woo-hoo! I love doing that. ^_^
> sorry that thought even had me scared and I like Severus. Besides
> when he took the curlers out he would have ringlets and we don't want
> to go there........
Hey, I could have said: "He should come in dressed like Frank-N-Furter
from _The Rocky Horror Picture Show_, but that seemed TOO evil.
> > > > Or maybe tea? Can't it stain your teeth, as well?
> > >
> > > Yes it can if you drink it without milk, but not sure how
> > > common that is
> >
> > Few Americans take their tea with milk, actually. I think that's a
> > European thing (I think they do it in Japan, too).
>
> Not sure quite how widespread in Europe, milk in tea may even be
> more of a British thing as I know when I went to Austria it wasn't
> thought of as strange and friends in Sweden tell me it is more common
> there to drink tea and coffee black,
Ok. Here it the States it's usually lemon and sugar, if anything.
> think I may move to Sweden they seem to have better medical treatment,
> better wheelchair access and I wouldn't be treated as a freak for wanting
> my freaking tea and coffee black........
Hey, there ya go. ^_^
> oh and tall men with blue eyes and fair hair seem very appealing LOL
True. ^_^
> > > as I tend to get very strange looks when I request tea without milk
> > > or lemon.
> >
> > In the US, it'd probably be just the opposite, at least the milk.
Lemon
> > is pretty common, though.
>
> Not so anti-lemon in tea just anti-milk :-)
Ok. ^_^
> > > Sorry just really dislike the taste of milk in tea, even though I
like
> > > milk, just don't pollute my tea with it :-)
> >
> > Heh, I know the feeling. I've been known to order burgers without
> > onions--and onion rings. ^_^ You can like two kinds of food without
> > wanting to have them together.
>
> Exactly, why can't people understand that?
I dunno. Baka.
> > > > > may be Severus is addicted to the dreaded nicotine, perhaps
> > > > > they just don't have tooth whitening toothpaste in the Wizarding
> > > > > world..... LOL
> > > >
> > > > Could be. ^_^
> > >
> > > May be we should send him a years supply as his christmas
present.......
> > > Think a delivery like that would take what... 3 Eagle Owls to
deliver?
> > ;-)
> >
> > Ouch!
> > Actually, toothpastes lasts a long time... you wouldn't need that much.
> > ^_^
>
> True, we just need owls with better aim than Erol,
And a little bigger than Pig.
> not sure Severus would like getting his gift dumped in his food.......
> LOL or having owls falling into his coffee........ ROFL
Hehehe...
"Oh, well, I've been meaning to cut down on caffeine anyway..."
> Dragon Friend [Still sniggering at the thopught of Snape having
> to clean his breakfast egg off of his robes after delivery of toothpaste]
I guess he'd have egg on his face.
Ha! Egg! Get it? Get it??