Apparating/Disapparating
John VanSickle
from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
it?
Old Man
> After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or Disapparate
> from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> it?
Hmmm.
Ten Galleons against it.
"Snape roared, now very close at hand. "YOU CAN'T APPARATE OR DISAPPARATE
INSIDE THIS CASTLE!..." (PoA, chapter 22). There is not only Hermione, who
knows this...
And just by quoting from books, here's another favorite of mine:
"'One day,' said Hermione, sounding thoroughly exasperated, 'you'll read
Hogwarts: A History, and perhaps it will remind you that you can't Apparate
or Disapparate inside Hogwarts...." (OotP, chapter 23).
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Old Man
(re-reading)
"Five more points from Gryffindor for being an insufferable
know-it-all."
[Severus Snape]
Joseph Munzenrider
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> "John VanSickle" <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or Disapparate
> > from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> > it?
>
> Hmmm.
> Ten Galleons against it.
> "Snape roared, now very close at hand. "YOU CAN'T APPARATE OR DISAPPARATE
> INSIDE THIS CASTLE!..." (PoA, chapter 22). There is not only Hermione, who
> knows this...
>
> And just by quoting from books, here's another favorite of mine:
>
> "'One day,' said Hermione, sounding thoroughly exasperated, 'you'll read
> Hogwarts: A History, and perhaps it will remind you that you can't
Apparate
> or Disapparate inside Hogwarts...." (OotP, chapter 23).
>
>
>
You can't apparate/disapparate inside the castle, per se, or even on the
grounds at large, I think, but apparently you can port key in and out of the
school, as shown by dumbledore at the end of OotP, and you can port key
on/off the grounds, as shown by Voldemort and the fake Mad-Eye Moody in
Goblet of Fire. And also, faux's on personal form of teleporting (when he
poofs out of dd's office to keep watch) seems to work.
Unless the no-apparating applies only to going or coming from the school?
Might it be possible to apparate from, say, the dormitory to the great hall?
And aside from that, I'm betting there's a room somewhere at the school that
you can apparate around inside a single room, for teaching purposes.
Not that this has any bearing on someone's ability to escape via apparation,
just food for thought that although it may not be possible for someone to
actually apparate or disapparate inside the castle(or the grounds, or
whatever area the rule covers), there are ways to achieve the same general
effect (that is, seem to disappear from within the castle, or to just appear
inside the castle).
joe
Death Eater Dan
> > After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or Disapparate
> > from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> > it?
>
> Hmmm.
> Ten Galleons against it.
> "Snape roared, now very close at hand. "YOU CAN'T APPARATE OR DISAPPARATE
> INSIDE THIS CASTLE!..." (PoA, chapter 22). There is not only Hermione, who
> knows this...
>
> And just by quoting from books, here's another favorite of mine:
>
> "'One day,' said Hermione, sounding thoroughly exasperated, 'you'll read
> Hogwarts: A History, and perhaps it will remind you that you can't
Apparate
> or Disapparate inside Hogwarts...." (OotP, chapter 23).
>
It also appears that even Dumbledore cannot do it. Hence the reason why he
must constantly travel and can never just appear to help save the day in
PP/CoS.
Quentin Stephens
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> After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or
> Disapparate from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will
> find a way to do it?
Sorry, both Harry and Dumbledore have done it. In OoTP Dumbledore
creates a portkey which transports Harry to the Headmaster's study;
he himself arrives shortly thereafter.
Joseph Munzenrider
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I'd forgotten about that bit of it. DD arrived via floo powder/the floo
network, right? So that's two magical ways (possibly 3, since I'm still not
sure about the phoenix) to get in and out of hogwarts, but nothing about
apparating inside the school(castle or grounds).
DM
I bet it will happen, but I don't think it'll be hermione who figures it
out. My bet is on Voldemort or one of his followers.
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But that's not Apparation, that's using some exterior help. Making a
portkey, if I remember, requires a good deal of magic and needs Ministry
approval, while doing a Floo fire, of course, requires a fireplace at both
ends that are hooked up to the network. And, of course, there's using the
power of Fawkes, but that of course means having him accesable and willing
to trust you. Apparation, which would allow you access to virtually anywhere
in the castle or grounds (or even the lake, should you wish), is not
allowed.
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Efren Irizarry,II
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> After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or Disapparate
> from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> it?
Hmm. Maybe. But somehow this seems more likely. (okay, maybe not, but
still)
(Harry, Ron, Hermione in the Gryffindor common room)
Harry: "Damn! I just realized I left my broom at home!" He swore loudly,
and then kicked the guy who censored his swear, in the face.
Ron: "Blimey...we've got practice tomorrow."
Harry: "I'll have to go back and get it...what would be the quickest way?"
Ron: "You could apparate, can't you?" said Ron as he scratched his head.
At this point, Hermione turned very red in the face. She spoke slowly and
deliberately:
Hermione: "You. Cannot. Apparate. Into. Or out of. Hogwarts."
At this point her demeanor changed.
Hermione: "But you can do this!" she said happily. "Avada Kedavra!"
There was a bright green flash of light, a whooshing sound, and Ron fell
over, with a confused look frozen on his face. He was dead.
At this point, Professor McGonagall burst into the common room, saw Ron on
the floor, and turned white.
McGonagall: "W-who did this? Who is responsible?!"
Hermione tentatively raised her hand into the air.
McGonagall: "Such superb spellcasting! Such technique! Take 50 points for
Gryffindor!"
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Kevin Karpenske
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> McGonagall: "Such superb spellcasting! Such technique! Take 50
> points for Gryffindor!"
Okay, I admit it... I giggled...
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> "Efren Irizarry,II" <iri10...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> > McGonagall: "Such superb spellcasting! Such technique! Take 50
> > points for Gryffindor!"
>
> Okay, I admit it... I giggled...
Rereading my own crap, I realize that I used "at this point..." three times.
I guess McGonagall entered the common room using the secret passage behind
the portrait of the famous witch Deusexina Machina. :)
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DM
Lol, this belongs in the Inebriated Fanfic thread!
Dan
I'm just re-reading HP OOTP, and I'm pretty sure it is possible to
Apparate/Disapparate inside the grounds for certain people, as in OOTP
on page 394 Bloomsbury when Hagrid introduces the Thestrals to the class
"...Course, this lot don' get a lot o' work, it's mainly jus' pullin'
the school carriages unless Dumbledore's takin' a long journey an' don'
want ter Apparate..."
Dan
Ashutosh Iddya
be able to apparate to and from the castle
Dan
grounds to somewhere..
John VanSickle
>
> "John VanSickle" <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or Disapparate
> > from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> > it?
>
> Hmmm.
> Ten Galleons against it.
<snip>
You are merely repeating the common belief that Apparation/
Disapparation is impossible. This doesn't prove that the common
belief is correct.
Regards,
John
Old Man
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SNIP
> >
> > Hmmm.
> > Ten Galleons against it.
>
> <snip>
>
> You are merely repeating the common belief that Apparation/
> Disapparation is impossible. This doesn't prove that the common
> belief is correct.
And I offer ten Galleons for betting on that ...
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Cornelius Fudge
> from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione will find a way to do
> it?
The rules of magic regarding apperating/dissaperating at Hogwarts
must only apply to humans as Dobby apperates into the hospital wing to visit
Harry and the house elfs make the morning, afternoon, and evening feasts
apperate into the main hall from the kitchens.
Mark Evans
Kind of redundant given that most of the students can't Apparate in the
first place. All Dumbledore, or any other staff member, needs do is walk
to the edge of the anti-Apparation wards.
Wonder how many of the teachers can see Thestrals, Hagrid can and it's
implied Dumbledore can.
Troels Forchhammer
>
> Ashutosh Iddya <u251...@anu.edu.au> wrote:
>>
<snip>
>> Maybe the rule applies only to the students of Hogwarts. The staff might
>> be able to apparate to and from the castle
>
> Kind of redundant given that most of the students can't Apparate in the
> first place. All Dumbledore, or any other staff member, needs do is walk
> to the edge of the anti-Apparation wards.
And Snape asserts, quite emphatically, I might add, in PoA that Black, an
adult and fully trained wizard, can't Disapparate from inside Hogwarts.
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Quentin Stephens
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> "Quentin Stephens" <s...@stq.gro.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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>> John VanSickle <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:3F465C0A...@hotmail.com:
>>
>> > After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or
>> > Disapparate from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione
>> > will find a way to do it?
>>
>> Sorry, both Harry and Dumbledore have done it. In OoTP
>> Dumbledore creates a portkey which transports Harry to the
>> Headmaster's study; he himself arrives shortly thereafter.
>
> I'd forgotten about that bit of it. DD arrived via floo
> powder/the floo network, right?
I don't think it actually says. The inference from the text is that
Dumbledore just appears.
Quentin Stephens
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> Quentin Stephens <s...@stq.gro.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> John VanSickle <evilsna...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:3F465C0A...@hotmail.com:
>>
>>> After hearing umpteen times how one cannot Apparate or
>>> Disapparate from Hogwarts, who's ready to bet that Hermione
>>> will find a way to do it?
>>
>> Sorry, both Harry and Dumbledore have done it. In OoTP
>> Dumbledore creates a portkey which transports Harry to the
>> Headmaster's study; he himself arrives shortly thereafter.
>
> But that's not Apparation, that's using some exterior help.
> Making a portkey, if I remember, requires a good deal of magic
> and needs Ministry approval,
Dumbledore definitely doesn't have that!
> while doing a Floo fire, of course,
> requires a fireplace at both ends that are hooked up to the
> network. And, of course, there's using the power of Fawkes, but
> that of course means having him accesable and willing to trust
> you. Apparation, which would allow you access to virtually
> anywhere in the castle or grounds (or even the lake, should you
> wish), is not allowed.
But in either case someone is teleporting to Hogwarts.
Markku Uttula
>>> Sorry, both Harry and Dumbledore have done it. In OoTP
>>> Dumbledore creates a portkey which transports Harry to the
>>> Headmaster's study; he himself arrives shortly thereafter.
>>
>> I'd forgotten about that bit of it. DD arrived via floo
>> powder/the floo network, right?
>
> I don't think it actually says. The inference from the text is that
> Dumbledore just appears.
...from a fireplace with green flames if I don't remember totally wrong.
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Quentin Stephens
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> Quentin Stephens wrote:
>>>> Sorry, both Harry and Dumbledore have done it. In OoTP
>>>> Dumbledore creates a portkey which transports Harry to the
>>>> Headmaster's study; he himself arrives shortly thereafter.
>>>
>>> I'd forgotten about that bit of it. DD arrived via floo
>>> powder/the floo network, right?
>>
>> I don't think it actually says. The inference from the text is
>> that Dumbledore just appears.
>
> ...from a fireplace with green flames if I don't remember
> totally wrong.
You are quite correct and I am mistaken. P724 of my edition.
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i presume hagrid can see thestrals because of the death of his father (is
his mother dead?)
and i reckon snape probably can see them too- he must have seen a bad DE get
done if not a muggle being baited.
one thing i forget as if you have to see a death directly (thats what i'm
presuming otherwise more people would be able to see them) or if it just has
to be some one you care about strongly or are closely related to dies.
i can't remember which it is and i don't remember if it even says much about
the specifics. can anyone fill me in on this?
a thought occurs suddenly that if it was tied to simply close relation (and
didn't rely on you knowing them spcifically or having seen them or them die)
then it would put the other weasley brother theory out of the water because
ron can't see thestrals.
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> i presume hagrid can see thestrals because of the death of his father
Very possible.
> (is his mother dead?)
Yeah, but she died after getting back to the giants, so there is no way
Hagrid could have seen that.
> and i reckon snape probably can see them too-
Agreed - he must have seen someone die as a DE.
> one thing i forget as if you have to see a death directly (thats what i'm
> presuming otherwise more people would be able to see them) or if it just has
> to be some one you care about strongly or are closely related to dies.
I think, but I can't remember what it actually says, that you have to
actually witness the moment of death, though you apparently don't have
to look at the dying person directly (Harry wasn't watching Cedric when
he was killed).
> i can't remember which it is and i don't remember if it even says much about
> the specifics. can anyone fill me in on this?
I don't remember if we hear anything better than Hermione's comment during
the Care of Magical Creatures Lesson in OotP-21 'The Eye of the Snake'
" 'The only people who can see Thestrals,' she said, 'are
people who have seen death.' "
(p. 394, Bloomsbury)
> a thought occurs suddenly that if it was tied to simply close relation
[...]
> then it would put the other weasley brother theory out of the water
> because ron can't see thestrals.
Well - as it apparently does require that the person has 'seen death'
(whatever that might mean exactly) there is the possibility that Ron (and
any of the other Weasley siblings) just didn't see that. This brother would
also have to be born before Ron and he might have died as a baby and Ron
could even be ignorant of him.
(No, I don't seriously think that such a brother has existed, but it's a
funny speculation anyway and it should be allowed to live ;-)
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