Bindings: Burton Custom or Salomon SP4
Steve
I am a new snowboarder (used to ski, never going back), and I'm
looking to choose between Burton Custom or Salomon SP4 Bindings. I
just got a Burton Canyon 68, and Salomon Dialogue boots, size 10.5. Im
planning on keeping this stuff for quite a while. Im also planning on
doing a little of everything, freeriding mostly maybe some jumps. I
couldn't really tell what the difference is between the 2 bindings.
Also would the SP4 be a better fit since I have Salomon boots? Any
help you could give me would be greatly appreciated!
Steve
Git
Can't advise on the bindings, but I can say I have Salomon malamutes and
Custom bindings and they fit just fine.
S
Arvin Chang
Salomon Dialogue boots. This year I have SP4 bindings, I switched
because they fit the Salomon boots better they are a little "wide" for
Burton bindings). Aside from some fitting issues (trouble getting boot
snug against heelcup) the Burton Missions were great.
The SP4s are a bit more beefy (notice the thicker pad on the top
strap) and heavier (lift the two boxes) and it has a slightly quirk
toe strap. Overall I like them, I just wish they were a little lighter
(probably doesn't make that much of a difference).
--Arvin
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Switters
wrote:
> I am a new snowboarder (used to ski, never going back), and I'm
> looking to choose between Burton Custom or Salomon SP4 Bindings. I
One thing to consider is the mounting of the bindings. The Salomons
provide a 3D insert pattern - but the middle hole is a single position,
which means that you cannot move the binding across the board to centre
your toe and heel overhang. With the Customs you will be able to do this.
As much as I like the Salomons (I switched from some old Custom Freestyle
to SP5s), I would say the Customs would give you more flexibility.
However, if they don't fit your boot, then it's a no brainer.
- Dave.
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> As much as I like the Salomons (I switched from some old Custom Freestyle
> to SP5s), I would say the Customs would give you more flexibility.
> However, if they don't fit your boot, then it's a no brainer.
>
> - Dave.
I recently checked out the SP6 bindings, and wasn't terribly
impressed. The main gripe I have is what you pointed out in terms of
a lack of configurability. I don't think is a no brainer at this
point. If the Burtons don't fit and the Salomons are too
feature-poor, then consider Drake, or Ride only to name a couple...
And, FWIW, my size 12 Salmon boots are every bit as bulky as the
Malamute models, and fit into my Ride bindings with room to spare.
Brian.
m*
I have the same setup. Salomon Dialogues and Burton Customs.
I LOVE the Dialogues. I have had em for 3 seasons now, and I
am not even thinking about getting another pair.
The Salomons are wide boots in the heel, and the Buston Customs
are wide, which is nice. The only problem I have with the Customs
is that it is hard to get them off. The strap gets stuck a little.
I have another pair of Burton bindings as well. I don;t know the
model. They are black, steel, with leather pads on the straps, and
a kevlar backing. Very nice *looking* bindings. But, I have had
trouble with the straps breaking. And they are not as wide as
the Customs.
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Mike T
your Burton board. If you choose the Salomons then bring your boots and
board to the stoore, set it up, and make sure your boots can be balanced
properly between toeside and heelside.
I use last year's Salomon SP6. As I've noted before I too find the Salomons
to be feature-poor relative to Ride, Drake and Burton (not as much
adjustability, heavier) but I find the straps to be an order of maginitude
more comfortable on my feet than anything else I've tried to date.
Brian
"Mike T" <mto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I use last year's Salomon SP6. As I've noted before I too find the
Salomons
> to be feature-poor relative to Ride, Drake and Burton (not as much
> adjustability, heavier) but I find the straps to be an order of maginitude
> more comfortable on my feet than anything else I've tried to date.
Comfort, of course, is high priority. I think it is difficult to gauge in
the store though, unless you really spend some time with tools adjusting the
bindings. On my Ride LS bindings, the ankle strap has a contoured padding
to it, which can cause uncomfortable pressure points on my foot in certain
configurations. In fact, at first, I would have to release my front foot
about every hour to let it "rest". However after finding the right screw
hole to attach the strap to the binding through this discomfort disappeared.
Just a little lateral adjustment of the strap changes where the padding
contacts the boot and tightens down on the foot, which can make all the
difference.
Brian.
T Ryan Cleary
Switters <r...@NADA.vpas.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:43:09 GMT, stvs...@aol.com (Steve) allegedly
>wrote:
>
>> I am a new snowboarder (used to ski, never going back), and I'm
>> looking to choose between Burton Custom or Salomon SP4 Bindings. I
>
>One thing to consider is the mounting of the bindings. The Salomons
>provide a 3D insert pattern - but the middle hole is a single position,
>which means that you cannot move the binding across the board to centre
>your toe and heel overhang. With the Customs you will be able to do this.
Really? I have SP-5's, and have been riding them on a Burton
Supermodel for a few months. The 3D middle holes in my mounting discs
are actually slots, like the 4x4 holes, giving 4 different positions,
with an adjustment range of about 1/2".
As for binding recommendations, if you have Salomon boots, definitely
get Salomon bindings. I had Drakes at first, and my Salomon Dialogue
boots didn't get nearly as secure of a fit in them as in my Salomon
bindings.
-Ryan
Switters
allegedly wrote:
> Really? I have SP-5's, and have been riding them on a Burton
> Supermodel for a few months. The 3D middle holes in my mounting discs
> are actually slots, like the 4x4 holes, giving 4 different positions,
> with an adjustment range of about 1/2".
Really. These are last seasons SP5s. As I recall, the pattern goes
something like this (use a fixed width font).
xxxxx xxxxx
xxx xxx
xxxxx xxxxx
So in order to use the middle holes for the 3-D pattern, you have to
have the "slots" run parallel to the edge of the board, giving you no
lateral adjustment. Ordinarily I would have my base plates 90 degrees
round so the "slots" run perpendicular to the rails.
> As for binding recommendations, if you have Salomon boots, definitely
> get Salomon bindings. I had Drakes at first, and my Salomon Dialogue
> boots didn't get nearly as secure of a fit in them as in my Salomon
> bindings.
I tried some Drake F-60s I think... the toe strap used to catch on the
edge of the boot, overtime it would have pushed it off. Not good.
T Ryan Cleary
Switters <r...@NADA.vpas.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:26:34 GMT, T Ryan Cleary <try...@theworld.com>
>allegedly wrote:
>
>> Really? I have SP-5's, and have been riding them on a Burton
>> Supermodel for a few months. The 3D middle holes in my mounting discs
>> are actually slots, like the 4x4 holes, giving 4 different positions,
>> with an adjustment range of about 1/2".
[...]
>So in order to use the middle holes for the 3-D pattern, you have to
>have the "slots" run parallel to the edge of the board, giving you no
>lateral adjustment. Ordinarily I would have my base plates 90 degrees
>round so the "slots" run perpendicular to the rails.
now i see what you mean. i have my oriented the other way, giving me
fore and aft adjustment. but you're right, the way the holes are
oriented, you wouldn't get any lateral adjustment at all...
with my old boots (salomon dialogue), my boots were centered over the
mounting disk, so i didn't need the lateral adjustment. now, with my
new boots (salomon f), i'll probably need it. i wonder of salomon (or
someone else) makes a 3D disk with slots going the right way?
-Ryan