Help! Triple Sec ....
Tony Cox
A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
(tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute in
a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
Thanks in advance,
Tony
ac2 at sanger dot ac another dot uk
PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
Steven Kitson
>I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
>believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
>(tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
I don't know for sure, but Bottoms Up on Bridge Street (just down from the
Round Church, across the road from the big garden at the side of John's,
near the Rising Bollards) has never failed to have any random spirit I've
been looking for.
--
I actually think there's an element of psychosis involved here.
Martin Read
Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute in
>a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
Dunno about Cointreau; Grand Marnier certainly is, in margaritas at least.
m.
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<snip>
>
>PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
>
pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts to cam.* any
more?
Does anybody know why contributors shouldn't have to phrase questions in
such a way that they do not contain the phrase 'Does anybody know...'?
This is cam.misc after all.
Does anybody know how to get Paul to repeal SNB?
Does anybody know whether the little end or the big end is best?
Er.... that's it. Sorry.
--
Peter Jones
Paul Oldham
Cox) growled:
> I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
> believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
> (tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
Not that central I'm afraid but I think we got out last bottle from the
Majestic Wine Whorehouse, but I can't swear to it.
--
Paul Oldham, Milton villager and telecommuting COBOL hack
The cam.* FAQ ---> http://the-hug.org/paul/camfaq.html
Milton web site -> http://www.miltonvillage.org.uk/
Martin Read
Peter Jones <Pe...@comity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Does anybody know whether the original perpetrator of the extreme
>pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts to cam.* any
>more?
No idea. However, there are plenty of his spiritual kin here :-)
>Does anybody know whether the little end or the big end is best?
Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
read. All else is mere jihaddery.
Hugo 'NOx' Tyson
Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> writes:
> A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
>
> I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
Bitter orange is the important thing - "thrice dry" so to speak.
> believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
> (tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
IME it depends which Threshers - the local mgt chooses what to stock.
ISTR the Jug and Firkin, whatever it's called these days, having some.
Wadsworths at StIves has *everything*, guaranteed.
> Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute in
> a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
Yeah.
- Huge
Paul Oldham
(Peter Jones) growled:
> >PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
> >
> Does anybody know whether the original perpetrator of the extreme
> pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts to cam.* any
> more?
I'm not sure he ever did. It's a GROGGS thing [1]
> Does anybody know why contributors shouldn't have to phrase questions in
> such a way that they do not contain the phrase 'Does anybody know...'?
> This is cam.misc after all.
I think it's because it *is* cam.misc actually.
> Does anybody know how to get Paul to repeal SNB?
Nowt to do with me matey.
> Does anybody know whether the little end or the big end is best?
Little. Definitely. You can't get all of the big end on your mouth at once.
[1] http://the-hug.org/paul/camfaq.html#1.9
Steven Kitson
>Peter Jones <Pe...@comity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Does anybody know whether the original perpetrator of the extreme
>>pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts to cam.* any
>>more?
>No idea. However, there are plenty of his spiritual kin here :-)
More's the pity.
Patrick Gosling
>pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts to cam.* any
>more?
He never did.
-patrick.
Rob Beardwell
>PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
yes
Anthony Frost
Steven Kitson <ski...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> near the Rising Bollards
A vision of the future has just come to me...
"Daddy, Daddy, why is that pub called The Rising Bollards?"...
Anthony
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Anthony Frost <Vu...@vulch.org> writes:
> In message <odn*Vl...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> Steven Kitson <ski...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > near the Rising Bollards
>
> A vision of the future has just come to me...
>
> "Daddy, Daddy, why is that pub called The Rising Bollards?"...
"There is a house, in ... the House of the Rising Bollards..."
Merchant
Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
>
> I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
> believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
> (tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
>
> Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute
in
> a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
Oddbins sells both. My own view is that Cointreau makes for a far superior
Margarita while Triple Sec is an acceptable substitute.
Have fun.
Roger
Mike Pitt
Steven Kitson <ski...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>More's the pity.
Pot. kettle. Black.
(yes, and before he says it me too...)
Mike
Dan Sheppard
>I don't know for sure, but Bottoms Up on Bridge Street (just down from the
>Round Church, across the road from the big garden at the side of John's,
>near the Rising Bollards) has never failed to have any random spirit I've
>been looking for.
I would have said the same thing (if you hadn't beaten me to it!).
Bridge Street bottoms up is (afaict) by far the best place for spirits
in Cambridge. It even seems better than the `good' off-licences like
Bachanalia, and so on, which seem to specialise in wine, cider, and
beer.
Dan.
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Tony Cox
> Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> writes:
> > A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
> >
> > I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
>
> Bitter orange is the important thing - "thrice dry" so to speak.
>
Hmmm ... just as well I didn't buy that bottle of Orange Curacao then ...
> > believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
> > (tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
>
> IME it depends which Threshers - the local mgt chooses what to stock.
>
Well the guy at the one on Mill Road didn't even know what the stuff was ...
> ISTR the Jug and Firkin, whatever it's called these days, having some.
>
Now that sounds more promising.
> Wadsworths at StIves has *everything*, guaranteed.
>
No car at the moment unfortunately (to the guy asking about a garage in
another thread, if you fancy a break from driving for a month or so I know
just the place ...)
Cheers to everyone for their replies!
Paul Bolchover
Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
>
>I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
>believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
>(tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
>
>Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute in
>a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
I believe that Cointreau is the brand name, while Triple Sec is the generic
name for the same product (like talking about Bacardi and Rum).
So Cointreau will be more than acceptable...
Paul
Tony J. Ibbs (Tibs)
Paul Bolchover who said:
>I believe that Cointreau is the brand name, while Triple Sec is the generic
>name for the same product (like talking about Bacardi and Rum).
>
>So Cointreau will be more than acceptable...
Hmm. <fx:Google>
http://www.barnonedrinks.com/tips/dictionary/ defines Cointreau as:
A liqueur made from brandy and orange peel,
40 per cent alcohol by volume
and Triple Sec as:
A very refined, white Curacao. Very sweet.
whilst Curacao is:
An orange flavoured liqueur made from dried bitter orange peel.
which is unhelpful to say the least, but then
http://www.1001-cocktails.com/dossiers/curacao.html
says (amongst other things)
Les curaçao oranges sont connus sous les noms de
"Cointreau" et de "Grand Marnier", appelés aussi
"triples secs". La liqueur appelé "Marie Brizard",
est également un triple sec!
so I guess he's at least arguably correct.
Regardless, *I'd* have said that the Triple Sec's I've tasted (yum) were
much drier than Cointreau. Personally I think Cointreau is too icky for a
good margarita, but then I'm hardly likely to be an expert.
Tibs
[who would never have believed that polluting triple sec with tequila would
lead to something tasty, if he hadn't tried it]
--
http://www.tibsnjoan.co.uk/
My views! Mine! Mine! (Unless Laser-Scan ask nicely to borrow them.)
Richard Meredith
mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Martin Read) wrote:
>> >Does anybody know whether the little end or the big end is best?
>
> Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
> read. All else is mere jihaddery.
There is a big inconsistency in a little-endian hex dump: bytes within a
word are printed least significant first, but the two nibbles within a byte
are printed most significant first.
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>
> Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
> read. All else is mere jihaddery.
Sort-of. I've always believed that another advantage of big-endian is that
when two different bits of code have different ideas about the length of the
same variable it crashes sooner than the same code would crash running
little endian, so you get to fix the bug sooner ie cheaper.
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Mark M
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> Martin Read <mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:x3s*tw...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> >
> > Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
> > read. All else is mere jihaddery.
>
> Sort-of. I've always believed that another advantage of big-endian is that
> when two different bits of code have different ideas about the length of
the
> same variable it crashes sooner than the same code would crash running
> little endian, so you get to fix the bug sooner ie cheaper.
...and on that topic, is there anywhere in/near Cambridge that sells Olmeca?
Mark M
PS Notice, didn't ask whether they _stock_ it....
Ben Hutchings
Dan Sheppard <da...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
<snip>
>Bridge Street bottoms up is (afaict) by far the best place for spirits
>in Cambridge. It even seems better than the `good' off-licences like
>Bachanalia, and so on, which seem to specialise in wine, cider, and
>beer.
But in another example of the uselessness of Cambridge city centre,
neither Bottoms Up nor any other offie there sells mead. Bacchanalia
and the Jug and Firkin do.
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of a severed limb. - me, 29 June 1999
Jón Fairbairn
> But in another example of the uselessness of Cambridge city centre,
> neither Bottoms Up nor any other offie there sells mead. Bacchanalia
> and the Jug and Firkin do.
H'm. The entire city of Cambridge will fit inside the diameter of
other city centres, so talking about the city centre here is a bit
pointless.
--
Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk
Steven Kitson
>But in another example of the uselessness of Cambridge city centre,
>neither Bottoms Up nor any other offie there sells mead. Bacchanalia
>and the Jug and Firkin do.
Mead is a special interest product, though; I doubt many city centres have
shops that sell it. I'd be more surprised if it turned out that you
couldn't get, for example, something as common as a potato masher.
Ben Hutchings
Steven Kitson <ski...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>Ben Hutchings <b...@decadentplace.org.uk> wrote:
>>But in another example of the uselessness of Cambridge city centre,
>>neither Bottoms Up nor any other offie there sells mead. Bacchanalia
>>and the Jug and Firkin do.
>
>Mead is a special interest product, though; I doubt many city centres have
>shops that sell it. I'd be more surprised if it turned out that you
>couldn't get, for example, something as common as a potato masher.
Sorry, there was an implied smiley there. I was teasing Dan just a
little.
Martin Read
Richard Meredith <rmer...@cix.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <x3s*tw...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
>mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Martin Read) wrote:
>> Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
>> read. All else is mere jihaddery.
>
>There is a big inconsistency in a little-endian hex dump: bytes within a
>word are printed least significant first, but the two nibbles within a byte
>are printed most significant first.
You show me an architecture with LN "Load Nibble" :-)
Richard Meredith
mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Martin Read) wrote:
>
> You show me an architecture with LN "Load Nibble" :-)
TMS1000. Intel 4004 and 4040. Lots of others 4 bit processors. The 8 bit
8048 had a 4 bit I/O instruction (weird, but so was the 8048).
In any case, it doesn't affect the principle that it's inconsistent.
Tony Cox
Hmm. Tequila? Black label? Fancy square bottle? [1] If so, I'm pretty sure
that was the brand I got from Coldhams Lane Sainsburys to go with my Triple
Sec. 11.99 as I recall.
Cheers
Tony
> PS Notice, didn't ask whether they _stock_ it....
>
[1] If I'm wrong, please feel free to post a sarcastic reply featuring the
word `no' after each question, in true cam.misc tradition ;>
Mark M
> "Mark M" <m...@sink.drain> writes:
>
> > "Tim Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:cb4t7.9081$3Q5.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > > Martin Read <mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:x3s*tw...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> > > >
> > > > Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier
to
> > > > read. All else is mere jihaddery.
> > >
> > > Sort-of. I've always believed that another advantage of big-endian is
that
> > > when two different bits of code have different ideas about the length
of
> > the
> > > same variable it crashes sooner than the same code would crash running
> > > little endian, so you get to fix the bug sooner ie cheaper.
> >
> > ...and on that topic, is there anywhere in/near Cambridge that sells
Olmeca?
> >
> > Mark M
> >
>
> Hmm. Tequila? Black label? Fancy square bottle? [1] If so, I'm pretty sure
> that was the brand I got from Coldhams Lane Sainsburys to go with my
Triple
> Sec. 11.99 as I recall.
Thanks for replying, you are the only truly sensitive, educated and cultured
person on this group. (Toby? You've been knocked off your perch.)
I haven't found Olmeca for several years, it didn't look like that last time
though. (Sure it wasn't Jose Cuervo? That's highly inferior to Olmeca.)
Anyway, I'll check it out.
> Cheers
Highly appropriate salutation under the circumstances.
> Tony
>
>
> > PS Notice, didn't ask whether they _stock_ it....
> >
>
> [1] If I'm wrong, please feel free to post a sarcastic reply featuring the
> word `no' after each question, in true cam.misc tradition ;>
Thanks, I will!
Mark M
Toby Speight
0> Peter Jones <URL:mailto:Pe...@comity.demon.co.uk> ("Peter") wrote:
Peter> Does anybody know whether the original perpetrator of the
Peter> extreme pedantry that gave rise to SNB actually reads or posts
Peter> to cam.* any more?
Peter>
Peter> Does anybody know why contributors shouldn't have to phrase
Peter> questions in such a way that they do not contain the phrase
Peter> 'Does anybody know...'? This is cam.misc after all.
Peter>
Peter> Does anybody know how to get Paul to repeal SNB?
Peter>
Peter> Does anybody know whether the little end or the big end is
Peter> best?
Yes, Yes, No, No. HTH.
David Murray
> >
> > Little-endian is more consistent; big-endian makes hex dumps easier to
> > read. All else is mere jihaddery.
>
> There is a big inconsistency in a little-endian hex dump: bytes within a
> word are printed least significant first, but the two nibbles within a
byte
> are printed most significant first.
I've always thought hex dumps should be arranged from right to left so that
whether you're looking at bits, nibbles, bytes, words, or whatever,
addresses all increase in the same direction. Everyone thinks I'm mad.
--
Dave Murray
Tim Ward
news:8l3u7.12141$qi.18...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
>
> I've always thought hex dumps should be arranged from right to left so
that
> whether you're looking at bits, nibbles, bytes, words, or whatever,
> addresses all increase in the same direction. Everyone thinks I'm mad.
Seen it done! (But with the ASCII version of the dump running the other way,
of course.)
Something on a VAX, was it??
David Murray
> David Murray <dave....@nospamplease.virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:8l3u7.12141$qi.18...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >
> > I've always thought hex dumps should be arranged from right to left
>
way,
> of course.)
Hmm; clearly the problem is that as words grow they expand rightwards and as
numbers grow they expand leftwards. I wonder which it would be easier to
reverse. ;-)
--
David Murray
Douglas de Lacey
That's because our number system was designed by Arabs, who wrote
right-to-left, and we never bothered to fix it when we pinched the idea.
Though I believe that someone (Dirac?) once thoroughly confused a
professional audience because he always did his binary in the sensible
way (for someone who writes left-to-right, that is).
HTH
Douglas de Lacey.
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I have to admin I was surprised it took that long to get that (Yes, Yes, No,
No.)
reply - I expected it within minutes (and almost posted it myself)
Malcolm
Mark Ayliffe
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>
> I have to admin I was surprised ...
We're working on his spelling, but it's a slow process, please bear with
us... :-)
Mark
Steven Kitson
>PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
I just don't use it.
Anyone who follows up saying 'yes' or 'no' is obviously an idiot and
there's no point in listening to them -- that's what kill-files are for.
So, yes, drop it. You don't need to ask permission.
--
You can persuade a man to believe almost anything provided he is clever
enough
Tony Cox
> > "Mark M" <m...@sink.drain> writes:
> >
>
> Thanks for replying, you are the only truly sensitive, educated and cultured
> person on this group. (Toby? You've been knocked off your perch.)
>
Aw shucks ....
> I haven't found Olmeca for several years, it didn't look like that last time
> though. (Sure it wasn't Jose Cuervo? That's highly inferior to Olmeca.)
>
Whatever it was it definitely wasn't Jose Cuervo, as that was the only other
brand they had (the yellow Special Reserve stuff, rejected on the grounds
of being 5 quid more expensive)
Good luck with your quest!
Tony
Jón Fairbairn
> David Murray wrote:
> > Hmm; clearly the problem is that as words grow they expand rightwards and as
> > numbers grow they expand leftwards. I wonder which it would be easier to
> > reverse. ;-)
>
> That's because our number system was designed by Arabs, who wrote
> right-to-left, and we never bothered to fix it when we pinched the idea.
> Though I believe that someone (Dirac?) once thoroughly confused a
> professional audience because he always did his binary in the sensible
> way (for someone who writes left-to-right, that is).
Prof Wilkes complained that Turing presented numbers least significant
digit first in some base (eight, sixteen?) without announcing it. And
binary numbers in Okasaki's "Purely Functional Data structures" are
presented that way round.
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Peter Jones
9...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
something.
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Peter Jones
<ski...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>Tony Cox <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
>
>I just don't use it.
>
>Anyone who follows up saying 'yes' or 'no' is obviously an idiot and
>there's no point in listening to them -- that's what kill-files are for.
>
>So, yes, drop it. You don't need to ask permission.
--
Peter Jones
"Take the attitude that nothing any person does is done for no reason; if you
think it's for no reason, you don't understand the point of view from which it
makes sense."
Malcolm Gray
"Mark Ayliffe" <mark.ayl...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> wrote in
message news:Nrfu7.11$si3.701@psinet-eu-nl...
There is nothing wrong with the spelling, they are just the wrong words :-)
Malcolm
Andrew Bolt
> A question for the many bon viveurs who no doubt frequent cam.misc ....
>
> I'm trying to get hold of a bottle of Triple Sec (an orange liqueur I
> believe). Does anybody know where I can get some in central Cambridge?
> (tried Threshers, tried Sainsburys...)
>
> Failing that, does anybody know if Cointreau is an acceptable substitute in
> a margarita or a Long Island iced tea???
www.webtender.com is a fairly handy resource for cocktails...
A search on 'long island iced tea' shows several mixed with Cointreau
instead of Triple Sec:
http://www.webtender.com/cgi-bin/search?show=15&verbose=on&name=long+island+iced+tea
However, according to their information on 'triple sec', here:
http://www.webtender.com/db/ingred/213
...Curacao, Cointreau and Grand Marnier are all triple secs. And
'triple sec' means 'triple distilled', not 'triple dry'.
> PS SNB ( ... sigh ... can we drop this ...? )
If you feel up to it, you could drop it and just ignore the pedantic
replies.
Or, we could adopt 'SNB' as an abbreviation for 'doeS aNyBody know'.
So 'SNB where I can get some Tripe Sec'.
I can't see that catching on though... people round here don't like
using indecipherable acronyms because they make it hard for new-
comers to understand what's going on. :-)
Andrew
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Mark Ayliffe
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<...>
>
> I can't see that catching on though... people round here don't like
> using indecipherable acronyms because they make it hard for new-
> comers to understand what's going on. :-)
>
ROTFL! UAATAICMUKP5 :-)
HAND
Mark
Colin Rosenstiel
(Peter Jones) wrote:
Nah! It's a side effect of the Nimda worm.
Colin Rosenstiel
Toby Speight
0> Andrew Bolt <URL:mailto:ab...@pc505.cambridge.arm.com> ("Andrew") wrote:
Andrew> 'SNB where I can get some Tripe Sec'.
^^^^^
Boggle.
Ben Hutchings
But admin could be short for administrate or administrator. So
perhaps 'Nimda' means 'backwards administrator' since it only affects
systems that are poorly administrated (administered?)?
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And I in my bed again! | `Western wind, when will thou blow?'
Peter Jones
19...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
Alright, I'll admit to being too stupid and idle to work out what you
mean so please, what do you mean?
--
Peter Jones
Mark Ayliffe
> >
> >ROTFL! UAATAICMUKP5 :-)
Arrgh! YAATAICMUKP5 of course, sorry.
> >
> >HAND
>
> Alright, I'll admit to being too stupid and idle to work out what you
> mean so please, what do you mean?
See
http://www.shartwell.freeserve.co.uk/humor-site/newsgroup-users.htm
and e.g.
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html
See, sometimes we help newcomers. Well, OK, usually. :)
Mark
Peter Jones
7...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
Please say what you mean, I am temporarily unable to follow your links
(mail but no Internet access) and gain the education you already have.
--
Peter Jones
LNR
>In article <SVzu7.6$Un5.493@psinet-eu-nl>, Mark Ayliffe <mark.ayliffe.19
>>
>
>(mail but no Internet access) and gain the education you already have.
Your Are ... And I Claim My 5 pounds. In this case AT probably means "A
Troll" (though I keep reading it as Alan Truelove when on cam.misc,
which is somewhat unfortunate).
I'm afraid the URLs quoted would give you a far better explanation of
where the orginal phrase came from than I am capable of doing from
memory, but suffice to say it's a common one around these parts, which
is probably why you were thought to be a newcomer for not recognising
it.
I don't think it's really Mark's fault that you don't have web access at
the moment (or that he didn't guess this), so if you're complaining at
him for failing to be helpful there I think that's a bit unfair. He did
try to help.
--
l...@lspace.org http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~eleanorb/
Mark Ayliffe
news:p7c*ew...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>
> Your Are ... And I Claim My 5 pounds. In this case AT probably means "A
> Troll" (though I keep reading it as Alan Truelove when on cam.misc,
> which is somewhat unfortunate).
>
> I'm afraid the URLs quoted would give you a far better explanation of
> where the orginal phrase came from than I am capable of doing from
> memory, but suffice to say it's a common one around these parts, which
> is probably why you were thought to be a newcomer for not recognising
> it.
>
> I don't think it's really Mark's fault that you don't have web access at
> the moment (or that he didn't guess this), so if you're complaining at
> him for failing to be helpful there I think that's a bit unfair. He did
> try to help.
>
"The Troll
The Troll exists purely to post controversial items and then sit back and
watch the fun. The more people who 'bite' the bait the better. A full-blown
flame-war across multiple newsgroups is better. Unlike the Flamewar Starter,
trolls rarely join in. They just like winding people up and seeing how many
people swallow the bait hook, line and sinker. There's a saying on
newsgroups: YAATAICM5P "You Are A Troll And I Claim My Five Pounds" to
challenge someone who is obviously trolling the group. A good troll builds
up to things. A good troll lurks to see what topics rattle people's cages."
and
ROFFNAR Rolling On the Floor For No Apparent Reason
ROFL Rolling On the Floor Laughing
ROFLAHMSL Rolling On the Floor Laughing And Holding My Sides Laughing
ROFLASC Rolling On the Floor Laughing And Scaring the Cat
ROFLASTC Rolling On the Floor Laughing And Scaring The Cat
ROFLGO Rolling On Floor Laughing Guts Out!
ROFLMAO Rolling On the Floor Laughing My ASCII Off
ROFLOL Rolling On the Floor Laughing Out Loud
ROFLOLVH Rolling On the Floor Laughing Out Loud Very Hard
ROFTTPOF Rolling On the Floor Trying To Put Out Flames
ROTF Rolling On The Floor
ROTFL Rolling On The Floor Laughing
ROTFLAHMS Rolling On The Floor Laughing And Holding My Side
(Less pleasant variants snipped)
HAND Have A Nice Day
NB I _did_ include what appears to be the cam.* irony tag ( :-) )
Mark
Peter Jones
writes
>Peter Jones <Pe...@comity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <SVzu7.6$Un5.493@psinet-eu-nl>, Mark Ayliffe <mark.ayliffe.19
>>>
>>>Arrgh! YAATAICMUKP5 of course, sorry.
>>
>>Please say what you mean, I am temporarily unable to follow your links
>>(mail but no Internet access) and gain the education you already have.
>
>Your Are ... And I Claim My 5 pounds. In this case AT probably means "A
>Troll" (though I keep reading it as Alan Truelove when on cam.misc,
>which is somewhat unfortunate).
Does this imply that I have the same tendencies as the Truetroll? I am
an equal opportunities grouch :).
I believe the ...claim my five pounds... comes from a Daily Mail or
Express (or other 'paper) promotion of many years ago. One of their
representatives, ISTR Lobby Ludd, walked around the streets and any
citizen identifying him and approaching him with the aforementioned
phrase was duly rewarded. I guess five pounds was worth the effort then.
>
>I'm afraid the URLs quoted would give you a far better explanation of
>where the orginal phrase came from than I am capable of doing from
>memory, but suffice to say it's a common one around these parts, which
>is probably why you were thought to be a newcomer for not recognising
>it.
One man (or woman) 's clever shorthand is another's obfuscation. I feel
that folk often hide behind jargon rather than saying what they mean.
>
>I don't think it's really Mark's fault that you don't have web access at
>the moment (or that he didn't guess this), so if you're complaining at
>him for failing to be helpful there I think that's a bit unfair. He did
>try to help.
>
Unless Mark is in league with the evil empire...
No, of course it is not his fault. However I was not being particularly
touchy, I just wanted him to tell me in plain English what he meant.
That is what communication is about.
But then IIAAT then ISIGWID
OK
HIHNMUMOA
or Hope I Have Not Made Up My Own Abbreviations
--
Peter Jones
Grice's Maxims
Make your contribution such as is required, at the stage at which it occurs, by
the accepted purpose or direction of the talk exchange in which you are engaged.
Maxim of quality, that is, make your contribution one that is true, don't say
what you believe to be false and don't say that for which you lack proof.
Maxim of quantity, that is, make your contribution as informative (but not more)
as is required for the current purposes of the exchange.
Maxim of relevance, that is, make your contribution appropriate, given the
user's query.
Maxim of manner, that is, avoid obscurity and ambiguity, be brief and orderly.
Peter Jones
7...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
connection to the Internet). Thank you for your clarification. I am
afraid I do not have five pounds to give you.
Enjoy your day.
--
Peter Jones
Mark Ayliffe
> Our posts crossed (as you may realise I do not have a permanent
> connection to the Internet). Thank you for your clarification. I am
> afraid I do not have five pounds to give you.
>
> Enjoy your day.
Cheers!
Mark
Andrew Bolt
> "The Troll
>
> The Troll exists purely to post controversial items and then sit back and
> watch the fun. The more people who 'bite' the bait the better. A full-blown
> flame-war across multiple newsgroups is better. Unlike the Flamewar Starter,
> trolls rarely join in. They just like winding people up and seeing how many
> people swallow the bait hook, line and sinker. There's a saying on
> newsgroups: YAATAICM5P "You Are A Troll And I Claim My Five Pounds" to
> challenge someone who is obviously trolling the group. A good troll builds
> up to things. A good troll lurks to see what topics rattle people's cages."
Hmm... Does anyone know of any newsgroups other than cam.misc where
making a comment to the effect of 'everyone on this newsgroup is kind
and helpful to newbies' would result in accusations of trolling?
Oh, and sorry about the 'tripe sec'. I originally typo'd 'trile sec',
corrected it, then decided that 'tripe sec' would make a better typo.
I guess Toby wins the other 5 pounds for spotting it...
Mark Ayliffe
>
> Hmm... Does anyone know of any newsgroups other than cam.misc where
> making a comment to the effect of 'everyone on this newsgroup is kind
> and helpful to newbies' would result in accusations of trolling?
>
Yes.
Malcolm suggests I stop there, but I'm more helpful than that:
alt.sysadmin.recovery
;-)
Mark
Mark M
> Our posts crossed (as you may realise I do not have a permanent
> connection to the Internet). Thank you for your clarification. I am
> afraid I do not have five pounds to give you.
Please don't cross post.
Mark Ayliffe
news:SZ3v7.5780$GT3.7...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
>
> Please don't cross post.
Probably better than posting when cross :-) OK, maybe not.
Mark
Chris Keating
> In article <p7c*ew...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, LNR <l...@lspace.org>
> writes
> >Peter Jones <Pe...@comity.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>In article <SVzu7.6$Un5.493@psinet-eu-nl>, Mark Ayliffe <mark.ayliffe.19
> >>>
> >>>Arrgh! YAATAICMUKP5 of course, sorry.
> >>
> >>Please say what you mean, I am temporarily unable to follow your links
> >>(mail but no Internet access) and gain the education you already have.
> >
> >Your Are ... And I Claim My 5 pounds. In this case AT probably means "A
> >Troll" (though I keep reading it as Alan Truelove when on cam.misc,
> >which is somewhat unfortunate).
>
> Does this imply that I have the same tendencies as the Truetroll? I am
> an equal opportunities grouch :).
>
> I believe the ...claim my five pounds... comes from a Daily Mail or
> Express (or other 'paper) promotion of many years ago. One of their
> representatives, ISTR Lobby Ludd, walked around the streets and any
> citizen identifying him and approaching him with the aforementioned
> phrase was duly rewarded. I guess five pounds was worth the effort then.
>
As featured in Graham Greene's first novel 'Brighton Rock' - the papers sent
journalists for this purpose to the south coast when there wasn't any news
in London. In Greene's case the poor guy is a former gangster who gets
murdered, thus starting the novel...
Chris
David Damerell
>In article <2SZu7.10$ib.994@psinet-eu-nl>, Mark Ayliffe <mark.ayliffe.19
>7...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
>Our posts crossed (as you may realise I do not have a permanent
>connection to the Internet). Thank you for your clarification. I am
>afraid I do not have five pounds to give you.
Sheesh. Does the phrase 'trim the quoted text' convey anything at all?
--
David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> flcl?
Peter Jones
7...@nospam.pem.removethis.cam.ac.uk> writes
OK, feel better now. :)
--
Peter Jones