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Denmark--bow to your master ARGENTINA

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Ariel Mazzarelli

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Oct 16, 1993, 1:03:44 PM10/16/93
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I'd just like to remind the whole of rss, for no particularly good reason,
that the match between the European champion Denmark and the American champion
Argentina, played a few months ago, resulted in a victory for Argentina.

Ariel
PS: If Spain beats Ireland 3-1 at Dublin, how can Denmark hope to get a point
in Spain?

Rasmus Lerdorf

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Oct 17, 1993, 2:08:00 AM10/17/93
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mazz...@beirut.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli) writes:

>I'd just like to remind the whole of rss, for no particularly good reason,
>that the match between the European champion Denmark and the American champion
>Argentina, played a few months ago, resulted in a victory for Argentina.

When this becomes a home-and-home series, ok, we can talk about the
significance of that result. But, Denmark goes to Argentina and gets
a tie, but loses in penalty kicks? I would not call that a very masterful
performance by Argentina. If Argentina could only manage a tie at home,
imagine how badly they would be beaten in Copenhagen? Or, do you not
believe in a home-field advantage? If you don't, what the heck is this
next statement about?

>PS: If Spain beats Ireland 3-1 at Dublin, how can Denmark hope to get a point
>in Spain?

Denmark has played 11 WC qualifiers and only given up a single goal. I
think their chances of getting at least a tie in Spain are pretty good.
Heck, they tied Argentina in Argentina just a few short months ago as
you pointed out. Is Argentina really *that* much worse than Spain?

*Rasmus*

Steven Rix

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Oct 18, 1993, 8:52:33 AM10/18/93
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In article <rlerdorfC...@netcom.com>, rler...@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
->mazz...@beirut.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli) writes:
->
->>I'd just like to remind the whole of rss, for no particularly good reason,
->>that the match between the European champion Denmark and the American
->>champion Argentina, played a few months ago, resulted in a victory for ...
->
->When this becomes a home-and-home series, ok, we can talk about the
->significance of that result. But, Denmark goes to Argentina and gets
->a tie, but loses in penalty kicks?

It seems fair enough to me that like should be compared with like. If WC
qualifying matches and friendlies normally end after 90 minutes, then it
is not sensible to include them with results after penalty kicks, because
the "better team" didn't have the same chances of a win.

As Rasmus says, winning at home on PK is really little more than a moral
victory. Particularly for as great a team as the mighty Argentina...

--
Steve Rix,
Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Edinburgh.
E-mail: ste...@chemeng.ed.ac.uk, phone: +44 (31) 650 8565.

pieter_j._mosterman

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Oct 17, 1993, 8:10:13 PM10/17/93
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In article <rlerdorfC...@netcom.com> rler...@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
>Heck, they tied Argentina in Argentina just a few short months ago as
>you pointed out. Is Argentina really *that* much worse than Spain?

Why is a game lost by Denmark on penalty kicks a tie and a game won by
Denmark on penalty kicks a win?


-- Pieter J. Mosterman
"Given that true intellectual and emotional compatibility are at the very
least difficult if not impossible to come by; we could always opt for the
more temporal gratification of sheer physical attraction. That would not
make you a shallow person, would it?"
Lyle Lovett

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