Sony CD Extreme - OT?
Bill
This may be off-topic but I thought I would post it here because of the
recommendations I've seen in this newsgroup wrt Sony CD Extreme. I
downloaded it and want to try it out......but.......should I uninstall Roxio
(Adaptec) Easy CD Creator Platinium first? Does anyone with experience with
these programs know of any potential conflicts from having both installed on
the same computer at the same time?
TIA
Bill
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................ Does anyone with experience with
> these programs know of any potential conflicts from having both installed
on
> the same computer at the same time?
>
> TIA
>
> Bill
CD Extreme (along with RecordnowMax, Prassi primo plus) are about the best
burning software out there. None of them even conflict with Nero
(Impossible, I hear you say) So I don`t think you will have any problems.
However, once you have tried CD Extreme, or the others mentioned -( they are
exactly the same software with a slightly different flavour ) I don`t think
you will want any other on your system.
Hope this Helps.
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> This may be off-topic but I thought I would post it here because of
> the recommendations I've seen in this newsgroup wrt Sony CD Extreme.
> I downloaded it and want to try it out......but.......should I
> uninstall Roxio (Adaptec) Easy CD Creator Platinium first? Does
> anyone with experience with these programs know of any potential
> conflicts from having both installed on the same computer at the same
> time?
I've tried installing Sony CD Extreme next to my Easy CD (v3.5c) and it
worked fine, but I don't think I've tried to run Easy CD as well. I suspect
they can be installed simultaneously (in spite of the bad rep Easy CD has in
this respect).
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ms
I know this is clearly OT, but several people here are familiar with
Easy CD and issues with it.
I will have to start saving files to a CD. Having a slow P166 computer,
small HD and DUN, I don't want to D/L the Sony free program if not
necessary.
I have Easy CD 4 and 5. I have not yet installed in W98SE. My only need
is to save files to a CD, and maybe HD image later.
Is either version 4 or 5 preferable?
What are the typical problems?
Thanks,
Mike Sa
rhexis
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> Is either version 4 or 5 preferable?
I think that 4 will fit your system better since it's less bloated.
There's also the fact that all I've heard about 5 has been negative
comments.
> What are the typical problems?
A toasted system (worst case scenario). I'm not sure if that was a
Windows 2000 (and XP?) problem only though.
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ms
Thanks, rhexis.
That's the info I needed. "Less bloated" is good news.
Mike Sa
Brian
"rick Brown" <thib...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Is CD Extreme free?? URL???? Will it worl with all cd burners????
http://www.sover.net/~whoi/MMedia.html Scan down the list to CD Extreme.
Follow the instructions that are posted.
Brian
Snapper
> Is either version 4 or 5 preferable?
I'm using EasyCD 4.03 on WIN98SE. EasyCD 5 is a useless piece of bloatware
junk best avoided.
> What are the typical problems?
None, unless you happen to install and then uninstall Homesite, in which
case Easy CD won't work at all until you reinstall Homesite.
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Sa
George
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> Is CD Extreme free?? URL???? Will it worl with all cd burners????
I couldn't get it to work with mine, Memorex 32x10x12
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dadiOH
>> I know this is clearly OT, but several people here are familiar with
>> Easy CD and issues with it.
>>
>> I will have to start saving files to a CD. Having a slow P166
>> computer, small HD and DUN, I don't want to D/L the Sony free
>> program if not necessary.
>>
>> I have Easy CD 4 and 5. I have not yet installed in W98SE. My only
>> need is to save files to a CD, and maybe HD image later.
>>
>> Is either version 4 or 5 preferable?
Personally, I prefer 3.5c. Never had any problem with any version though,
currently have 5.1. The problems generally arise, IMO, because of DirectCD
and the failure of people to understand its function, the way it works and
the fact that it is a separate program that need not even be installed.
That said, CD Extreme has several advantages...
1. "Burn proof technology". No idea if EZCD has same
2. Long file names are OK - about twice the normal length
3. Installed size is about 5 megs. Full install of EZCD 5 Platinum is
around 55 megs. In all fairness, EZCD itself is about the same size as
CDExtreme but DirectCD and other goodies bump it way up if you install
them.
My preferance is for CDExtreme and ultimately it will be the only one
living on my box.
dadiOH
ms
Thanks, dadiOH.
What is the installed size of CDExtreme? If 5 MB, my HD will handle it,
but if 55 MB, N/A.
Mike Sa
Brian
"O.G. Oldblood" <dang...@frognet.com> wrote in message
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> CD EXTREME is not freeware even though you can
> download and use it if you know the location of the needed files.
CD Extreme is available in 3 parts, which can be *LEGALLY* obtained for free
from Sony and Veritas. Check Son of Spys website.
>Well a
> person can also download and use the others if you know where they are
> located for download.
Easy CD and Nero can be *ILLEGALLY* obtained for free from warez sites.
Huge difference.
Brian
Slash`n`Burn
>> CD EXTREME is not freeware even though you can
>> download and use it if you know the location of the needed files.
Your best bet would be to D/L it directly from the Sony Website. The
only problem you may have is if the software is older than your
burner, in which case the proggy won`t recognise it. This can be cured
by D/L`ing the latest set of ASPI drivers available from the adaptec
website
>
>CD Extreme is available in 3 parts, which can be *LEGALLY* obtained for free
>from Sony and Veritas. Check Son of Spys website.
>
>>Well a
>> person can also download and use the others if you know where they are
>> located for download.
>
>Easy CD and Nero can be *ILLEGALLY* obtained for free from warez sites.
>
>Huge difference.
>
>Brian
>
>
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Lacon Burges
<e-mail....@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>"O.G. Oldblood" <dang...@frognet.com> wrote in message
>news:8Lj69.57167$lP6.3...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com...
>> CD EXTREME is not freeware even though you can
>> download and use it if you know the location of the needed files.
>
>CD Extreme is available in 3 parts, which can be *LEGALLY* obtained for free
>from Sony and Veritas. Check Son of Spys website.
<snip>
Downloading Daddy, contacted Sony and asked if "Sony CD Extreame" was
in fact freeware and was informed that it wasn't. (see the original
posting below).
Therefore, your statement that it can be obtained *LEGALLY* from Sony
is incorrect. In fact once I read Downloading Daddy's posting I
removed the software from my machine.
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From: Downloading Daddy (download...@attbi.com)
Subject: Sony Cd extreme is not freeware!
Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
View: Complete Thread (6 articles) | Original Format
Date: 2002-05-20 16:30:48 PST
I have seen the queastion as to whether or not sony cd extreme is
freeware
or not posted many times in this newsgroup and I have never felt that
there
had been a concrete answer so I took it upon myself to ask sony, here
is
thier response:
Dear Sir,
I'm sorry, but Sony's version of CD Extreme, is not freeware.
Sony does
not write the CD Extreme software, we only bundle it with some of our
drives. For that reason, we are not authorized to post full versions
of the
software for download.
Please include previous e-mails in any replies so we may better assist
you.
Also, you may wish to visit our new website at
www.sony.com/storagesupport .
This website has many FAQ's, a technical assistant (step by step
processes),
downloads, and an e-mail form to contact us.
Thank you,
Ginny
Sony Technical Support
----- Original Message -----
From: <download...@attbi.com>
To: <storage...@am.sony.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 5:15 AM
Subject: CD-RW Support Form
I know that this isn't the answer that most of us were hoping for but
now we
know for sure.
Sincerely, Downloading Daddy
Brian
"Son Of Spy" <SonO...@whatever.net> wrote in message
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> Snort!
>
> Well here is the link to Sony's own support downloads
> page in thailand:
>
> http://www.sony.co.th/servicesupport.asp
>
> All those with eyes functioning in the human visible light spectrum
> will note the download on the right hand side for CD-Extreme.
>
> So far as Sony/Thailand is concerned it can be downloaded.
>
> And exactly who is is little female cipher who claims to speak
> for the entire multinational megacorporation of Sony worldwide.
>
> "Ginny
> Sony Technical Support"
>
> Doesn't exactly make one think of Lear Jets and villas on the riviera does
it?
>
> FYI Sony doesn't even **USE** CD Extreme anymore.
Thanks for your reply.
:-) Brian
Lacon Burges
wrote:
>
>
>Lacon Burges wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Downloading Daddy, contacted Sony and asked if "Sony CD Extreame" was
>> in fact freeware and was informed that it wasn't. (see the original
>> posting below).
>>
>> Therefore, your statement that it can be obtained *LEGALLY* from Sony
>> is incorrect. In fact once I read Downloading Daddy's posting I
>> removed the software from my machine.
>>
>>
>
>Snort!
>
>Well here is the link to Sony's own support downloads
>page in thailand:
>
>asp
>http://www.sony.co.th/servicesupport.
>All those with eyes functioning in the human visible light spectrum
>will note the download on the right hand side for CD-Extreme.
>
>So far as Sony/Thailand is concerned it can be downloaded.
>
>And exactly who is is little female cipher who claims to speak
>for the entire multinational megacorporation of Sony worldwide.
>
>"Ginny
>Sony Technical Support"
>
>Doesn't exactly make one think of Lear Jets and villas on the riviera does it?
>
>FYI Sony doesn't even **USE** CD Extreme anymore.
>
>(sigh)
>
> The link stays up.
>
> Son Of Spy
Had a look at the site and can't find anything to say that the
software is freeware. http://www.sony.co.th/servicesupport.
As for the Ginny the Sony Technical Support person, I can't see
anywhere in her reply to Downloading Daddy where she states she speaks
for the entire multinational megacorporation of Sony worldwide, she
just answered as a Sony representative.
Even though I installed and used this software for quite sometime, I
always had this little niggle that suspected that the software wasn't
freeware. That is why I uninstalled the software after reading the
reply from Sony support person to Downloading Daddy.
Brian
> >from Sony and Veritas. Check Son of Spys website.
> Therefore, your statement that it can be obtained *LEGALLY* from Sony
> is incorrect. In fact once I read Downloading Daddy's posting I
> removed the software from my machine.
I have to agree...
from Sony website (in America):
IMPORTANT - READ BEFORE DOWNLOADING ANY PROGRAM OR ACCOMPANYING
DOCUMENTATION ONLINE.
BY DOWNLOADING ANY PROGRAM OR ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENTATION, YOU AGREE TO
THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS AGREEMENT,
YOU MAY NOT DOWNLOAD ANY PROGRAM OR ACCOMPANYING ONLINE DOCUMENTATION.
<snip>
LICENSE
Under this Agreement, Sony and its licensors grant you a limited
license to use the programs, installation information, technical
support information, software, device drivers, firmware upgrades, pdf
files, integration and troubleshooting tips and/or documentation for
use only with the Sony products and not for resale (the "Program").
The only with the Sony products part is what does it for me. -
BrianInMaine
Harry Ohrn
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> Even though I installed and used this software for quite sometime, I
> always had this little niggle that suspected that the software wasn't
> freeware. That is why I uninstalled the software after reading the
> reply from Sony support person to Downloading Daddy.
>
CD Extreme is not freeware. If anything it more closely meets the definition
of orphanware even though it is still on the Sony site and downloadable for
free. If one is a purist (I am not implying that there is anything wrong
with that) then one should not use orphanware as it is not freeware.
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Harry Ohrn
www.webtree.ca
Matt
<dang...@frognet.com> wrote:
>Strange but I had not taken a look at the post here for a while and came
>across this post right away and I just removed Sony Cd Extreme. I used it
>just last night to burn a couple of music CDs using mp3 files and then
>repeated the process with Easy Cd and there was no doubt in my mind that the
>CDs burned with Easy Cd sounded much better then the ones created with CD
>Extreme. At first I thought maybe the mp3 files were at fault but after
>burning the same ones using Easy Cd I figure that on my computer Easy CD
>does the better job. I suggest folks try Easy Cd, Nero and CD Extreme and
>then listen to the results and decide which is best on their system.
For WAV files, I'd need a lot of convincing as to how it couold be
different (bits are bits, and if recorded and read accurately, should
be the same)
But for MP3, the choice of decoder can make a difference, particulatly
if the encoder used is LAME at full options, as it can plough areas
that others don't.
If you have space, expand to WAV using a competent decoder - WINLAME,
using "MAD", or any program that uses a Franhofer decoder.
Try FEURIO (nagware) - as that has an internal Fraunhofer decode and
can write on the fly - or EAC - if you insist on full
free(postcard)ware - I believe it may use the MPGLIB decompression
from LAME
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Lacon Burges
I'm hardly a purist Harry, I use Ad-Aware, ZoneAlarm, and Mailwasher
daily and used FreeAgent and PowerDesk for quite awhile before getting
the full versions.
I have no problem with posters giving information in regards
crippleware, lite versions, or magazine CD's or any of the other
variations of software that can be downloaded or had from magazine
CD's.
However, I feel that Sony CD Extreame doesn't come within *my*
definition of freeware, even in the most liberal sense of the word. As
far as I'm concerned Sony CD Extreame is commercial software for
owners of Sony drives which can still be updated by using the Prassi
update on the Veritas site. (See below)
**************************************************************************************8
The Px Engine update provides product updates, fixes, and new CD and
DVD recorder support. Use this download to update these products.
RecordNow, RecordNow DX, & RecordNow Max
MyCD & MyCD Pro
PrimoCD & PrimoCD Plus, PrimoCD Pro8, PrimoCD Pro16, PrimoCD Pro64 &
PrimoDVD
Click'N Burn Plus & Click'N Burn Pro
SonicBurn, CD Extreme, Spressa Play & Record
Release date: August 01, 2002
Version: 1.1.342
File size: 566 kb
Download Time: ~2 minutes at 28.8
Requirements: Application that supports the Px Engine (i.e. RecordNow
Max)
Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP
************************************************************************************
This doesn't sound like the software is orphanware, or been abandoned,
or being giving away for free in my opinion.
However, if anyone can prove that Sony CD Extreame is free to use for
everyone, regardless of the drive used, and give the details where
this information can be accessed, I will gladly download and use
again.
In the mean time I will still continue to classify Sony CD Extreame as
commercial software.
dadiOH
assure that your audio CDs always have the sound you like _regardless_ of
what program burns them, decode them to wave with a decoder you like and
burn the waves rather than letting the burning program decode to wave as it
writes.
dadiOH
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