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Ed Hamrick

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Jan 13, 2002, 7:38:52 AM1/13/02
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I've attached below a list of the suggestions people have
made in the past few days. If a suggestion has been made
more than once, a count is at the front of the line.

VueScan 7.4 incorporates a real-time (or near real time)
preview update (along with a scan update). I'm guessing
that this will meet most of the needs for the histogram with
sliders, since the histogram updates as well when an
option slider is changed. (It's difficult to explain why
this works better than putting sliders on the histogram,
but the complexities of the options that affect the
histogram make it infeasible to put the sliders directly
on the histogram).

You can download a beta of VueScan 7.4 from:

http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html

Please send e-mail to sup...@hamrick.com if you
find a problem with this beta.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick

6 Histogram with sliders (like Photoshop)
6 Multiple previews (batch previews)
5 More film types (Fuji, Ilford, Agfa, old films)
4 Real-time preview update
4 Custom monitor profiles
3 Curve tool
2 Options for sizing output (different units, different dpi)
2 Multiple IR cleaning levels
3 Better frame offset/auto cropping on LS-4000
2 Root file name for raw and crop files (or make crop take raw root name)
2 Display focus point
2 Use wildcards for raw scan files, put outputs in different directory with
same names
2 Eye dropper for black, white, midtone
2 Better IR dust removal on FS4000 and 2740S
2 Rescan for new devices (i.e. USB devices)
2 Carry .ini files from one version to the next
2 Grain reduction improvements
2 Pause/Resume button (with auto resume after time limit)
Make preview/scan go blank before starting scan (maybe)
Q60 scanner calibration
More scanner resolutions (i.e. intermediate resolutions)
User-generated film profiles
Better IR cleaning on Nikon
More in-depth user's guide
Reset button to reset to defaults and exit button
Up/Down arrows for changes, shift for 10 unit changes, mouse wheel
User's Guide in PDF format
Spinners (up/down clicks)
Preview scan at 100%
File names on index page
Trimming black/white points with mouse
Calibration for Tri-X and Ilford HP5
Automatic registration of multi-pass scans
Descreening (frequency domain)
Show focus point in preview pane
Faster writing of compressed tiff files to disk
File name should stay visible after files written
More detail in user's guide about color balance, media type, black/white
points
Multi-thread VueScan
Remove X/Y window offsets from Prefs tab
Auto rotate (put lightest part of frame at top)
Color sampler to sample pixel values with mouse
Sliders need incremental adjustments (wxSpinCtrl)
Pixel radius for IR cleaning
Map film frame numbers to file numbers
Allow arbitrary color profiles for scanners
Allow arbitrary color space profiles for output files
TWAIN or Photoshop filter
Add non-default option settings to comments field of images
Side by side view of preview, before and after changed option
Some options should be reset when frame number changed
Leave message somewhere saying what last processing option was (or have
log window)
Make sure status window isn't truncated by long file names
Change Output tiff settings when "Device|Bits per pixel" changes

Annika1980

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Jan 13, 2002, 11:12:42 AM1/13/02
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>From: "Ed Hamrick" use...@hamrick.com

>VueScan 7.4 incorporates a real-time (or near real time)
>preview update (along with a scan update). I'm guessing
>that this will meet most of the needs for the histogram with
>sliders, since the histogram updates as well when an
>option slider is changed. (It's difficult to explain why
>this works better than putting sliders on the histogram,
>but the complexities of the options that affect the
>histogram make it infeasible to put the sliders directly
>on the histogram).
>
>You can download a beta of VueScan 7.4 from:
>

> http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
>
>

The new live preview is really great.
At first I thought you forgot the PREVIEW MEM button but then I realized that
it is now unneccessary since the preview updates automatically with any change
of the settings. Way cool!

I didn't notice any new film types in the Beta version, however. I guess
that's coming later today in version 7.4.001.

Also, you do a tremendous job of updating your program .... better than any
other software I've ever used.
But one problem with this is that Vuescan always installs itself over the old
version of my program in the C:/Vuescan" directory.
Is there a way to make Vuescan install in a different directory on a different
drive?

Thanks for all your hard work to make Vuescan the best scanning software
available.


Mac McDougald

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Jan 13, 2002, 11:21:30 AM1/13/02
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In article <20020113111242...@mb-ch.aol.com>,
annik...@aol.com says...

Just MOVE it after installation and set a shortcut to new location.
It doesn't put anything in registry that is location specific.

It's so small that I let it go to c drive, but I like to keep a previous
version or two until I'm comfy with the current one. I just rename the
existing directory to VueScan7310 or whatever, and let the new one
install in C:\vuescan, but there's no reason you couldn't move the whole
shebang to another drive with whatever name dir you'd like after
installation.

--
Mac McDougald
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Margaret Wilson

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Jan 13, 2002, 12:22:12 PM1/13/02
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Yes, I move my files into C:\Program Files\VUESCAN every time I do an
update. It gets old, let me tell you. It would be really nice if we could
specify an install directory in Setup.

Regards,

Margaret


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wim wiskerke

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Jan 13, 2002, 12:28:18 PM1/13/02
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 05:38:52 -0700, "Ed Hamrick" <use...@hamrick.com>
wrote:

>VueScan 7.4 incorporates a real-time (or near real time)
>preview update (along with a scan update).

Great!
Though a little too nervous when one only wants to adjust the cropping
a little bit. Or the brightness. It previews on every millimeter / 0.1
point. This causes the sliders to work erratic.
Is this because my machine is too slow?

>I'm guessing
>that this will meet most of the needs for the histogram with
>sliders, since the histogram updates as well when an
>option slider is changed. (It's difficult to explain why
>this works better than putting sliders on the histogram,
>but the complexities of the options that affect the
>histogram make it infeasible to put the sliders directly
>on the histogram).

Why not show a small histogram in the left panel?
Just above the slider. It will be as if one adjusts the histogram
directly. (Imho they all work that way.)

>6 Histogram with sliders (like Photoshop)

This points in that direction.

>5 More film types (Fuji, Ilford, Agfa, old films)

Is there a real need for this? Polaroid was good at this.
In Vs the standard settings do a good job.
Most labs produce different colors for different films. A button for a
calibration scan of only the orange mask will solve most problems.
Calibration on a grey card or color target - with a dropper- would be
ideal. But who incorporates a calibrated target in every shot?

>2 Eye dropper for black, white, midtone

This will not be easy. But it's true: most scanner interfaces have
one.

>2 Carry .ini files from one version to the next

I thought some versions had this?

> Reset button to reset to defaults

There is a general one, is there? Very convenient would be a reset on
every slider or set of sliders (or even a panel).

> Up/Down arrows for changes, shift for 10 unit changes, mouse wheel

Ah you fixed that allready! Great.

> Pixel radius for IR cleaning

Hmm.. maybe not only a max but also a min?

> Map film frame numbers to file numbers

A better solution for this would be great. But how? Point and shoot?
Assume one scans all negatives?
Sometimes negatives are cut in rows of 4; but mostly 6. They seldom
start at #1. All film holders I know can hold 6, but how does your
scanner know how many there are on your strip? Hmm.

> Side by side view of preview, before and after changed option

Yes: ImageReady style. Or even Photoshop Variations style with all
Color Balance settings ;-))
Eventually it will be as large as Photoshop too ;-))

Vuescan is a great program as it is already.

regards, wim

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cra...@mocten.com

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Jan 13, 2002, 1:22:06 PM1/13/02
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 05:38:52 -0700, "Ed Hamrick" <use...@hamrick.com>
wrote:

>3 Better frame offset/auto cropping on LS-4000

Aha! So the terrible auto cropping I am seeing on my (1-day old)
Nikon 4000 isn't my fault for selecting the wrong option?

It's WAY off. I don't even get the whole frame in the preview screen
to set a correct crop point. Was just getting into this after
scanning all slides yesterday.

Ed Hamrick

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Jan 13, 2002, 2:49:45 PM1/13/02
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<cra...@mocten.com> wrote:
> Aha! So the terrible auto cropping I am seeing on my (1-day old)
> Nikon 4000 isn't my fault for selecting the wrong option?

You have to use the "Device|Frame offset" option for this.
It's a kludge, but it works.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick


Tom H

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Jan 13, 2002, 3:11:21 PM1/13/02
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"Margaret Wilson" <gadg...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I move my files into C:\Program Files\VUESCAN every time I do an
> update. It gets old, let me tell you. It would be really nice if we
could
> specify an install directory in Setup.

Add a vote for specifying directory, too. You know Ed, this wouldn't be
such a big problem if you updated your software every 9 months like regular
software companies :-)))))

Tom


Margaret Wilson

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Jan 13, 2002, 5:38:45 PM1/13/02
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You know what would be really great:

1. An option to specify install directory in Setup ... with
2. A check box that tells Setup to NOT overwrite vuescan.ini.

This would make upgrading Vuescan much less of a chore. And since we
upgrade practically every other day ... sometimes more ... it would very
handy.

Thanks for a great program and wonderful support, Ed! :-)

Regards,

Margaret

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cra...@mocten.com

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Jan 13, 2002, 7:36:51 PM1/13/02
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:49:45 -0700, "Ed Hamrick" <use...@hamrick.com>
wrote:

>You have to use the "Device|Frame offset" option for this.


>It's a kludge, but it works.

That's what I am trying now. An offset of 9.75-10mm gets me close,
but I think I still lose the bottom of the frame. Why is identifying
the frame location so far off on one particular scanner model?

cra...@mocten.com

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Jan 13, 2002, 7:40:39 PM1/13/02
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:36:51 GMT, cra...@mocten.com wrote:

>An offset of 9.75-10mm gets me close,
>but I think I still lose the bottom of the frame.

And for me, an offset of 12mm seems to get the desired frame centered
in the preview window.

xander

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Jan 14, 2002, 5:21:32 AM1/14/02
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Q60 calibration this would be the most fantastic item to see in Vuescan!
Yes, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xander

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Erik Krause

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Jan 14, 2002, 5:34:53 AM1/14/02
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Hi, Ed Hamrick
you wrote...

> VueScan 7.4 incorporates a real-time (or near real time)
> preview update (along with a scan update). I'm guessing
> that this will meet most of the needs for the histogram with
> sliders, since the histogram updates as well when an
> option slider is changed.

Sorry, but it is not near "real time", far from the preview in
Photoshop. Tried beta 3 now it takes several seconds an a 1300 MHz AMD.
Think you should optimize the algorithm. It seems as if Photoshop uses
some simplified algorithms to do the preview, since sometimes the
calculated result is a bit different from preview.

I don't think it is necessary to update the preview when changing file
color space.

I don't like the sliders. They stay same size while the number boxes
vanish if I make the option panel smaller than 250. Since the sliders
are limited in range, the spinbuttons would do IMHO.

--
Erik Krause

Jeff Randall

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Jan 14, 2002, 11:13:34 AM1/14/02
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wim wiskerke <wisk...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Why not show a small histogram in the left panel?
> Just above the slider. It will be as if one adjusts the histogram
> directly. (Imho they all work that way.)
>
> >6 Histogram with sliders (like Photoshop)
>
> This points in that direction.
>

The curves/histogram function of Picture Windows is IMO far superior
to Photoshop or its clones. I hope Ed will not follow the PS hurd on
this one.

Thanks.

Jeff Randall

Ed Hamrick

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Jan 14, 2002, 3:16:31 PM1/14/02
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"Erik Krause" <erik....@gmx.de> wrote:
> I don't like the sliders. They stay same size while the number boxes
> vanish if I make the option panel smaller than 250. Since the sliders
> are limited in range, the spinbuttons would do IMHO.

You can turn off the sliders and spin buttons in VueScan 7.4 beta 4.
It's in the Prefs tab when you turn on advanced options.

You can download it from:

http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html

Regards,
Ed Hamrick


Erik Krause

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Jan 14, 2002, 3:26:48 PM1/14/02
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I wrote myself...

> I don't like the sliders. They stay same size while the number boxes
> vanish if I make the option panel smaller than 250. Since the sliders
> are limited in range, the spinbuttons would do IMHO.

Sliders can be disabled in beta 4.

Thanks, Ed!
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Erik Krause

Tom Harrison

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Jan 14, 2002, 10:00:01 PM1/14/02
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"Erik Krause" <erik....@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hi, Ed Hamrick
> you wrote...
>
> > VueScan 7.4 incorporates a real-time (or near real time)
> > preview update (along with a scan update). I'm guessing
> > that this will meet most of the needs for the histogram with
> > sliders, since the histogram updates as well when an
> > option slider is changed.
>
> Sorry, but it is not near "real time", far from the preview in
> Photoshop. Tried beta 3 now it takes several seconds an a 1300 MHz AMD.

I have to agree with Erik (I made the same basic point on a different thread
here). With a big image, updates are not real-time enough to prevent things
from being a little jumpy. I have the same complaint with PaintShop Pro but
not with Photoshop 6 -- this single element of real real-time updating makes
PS6 much, much more usable than PSP for me (which it had better be, for 10x
the price :-)

Tom


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