RESULT: comp.lang.java.* reorganization all groups pass
Jani Patokallio
RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.beans passes 284:22
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.databases passes 293:17
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.gui passes 296:20
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.softwaretools passes 293:21
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.help (renames comp.lang.java.setup) passes 286:29
unmoderated group comp.lang.java.machine (renames comp.lang.java.tech) passes 289:22
REMOVE comp.lang.java.misc (renamed to comp.lang.java.programmer) passes 289:22
REMOVE comp.lang.java.api (renamed to comp.lang.java.programmer) passes 289:22
comp.lang.java.* reorg results - 322 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
284 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.beans
293 17 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.databases
296 20 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.gui
286 29 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.help (renames comp.lang.java.setup)
289 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.machine (renames comp.lang.java.tech)
289 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.programmer (renames comp.lang.java.api and comp.lang.java.misc)
293 21 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.lang.java.softwaretools
2 invalid votes
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.java.beans Java software components (JavaBeans).
comp.lang.java.databases Databases, java.sql, JDBC, ODBC.
comp.lang.java.gui GUI toolkits and windowing: AWT, IFC etc.
comp.lang.java.help Set-up problems, catch-all first aid.
comp.lang.java.machine JVM, native methods, hardware.
comp.lang.java.softwaretools IDEs, browsers, compilers, other tools.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Apr 1997.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Peter van der Linden <lin...@sun.com>
Proponent: Alexander Anderson <sa...@almide.demon.co.uk>
Proponent: Emma Kolstad Antunes <em...@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Proponent: Roedy Green <Ro...@bix.com>
Proponent: Marty Hall <ha...@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Proponent: Carl Johnson <carl.j...@nautronix.com.au>
Proponent: David Karr <dk...@bbn.com>
Proponent: Tore Lund <tl...@sn.no>
Proponent: George Paci <gp...@MYPUGS.hlo.dec.com>
Proponent: Thomas Poff <tho...@cs.sonoma.edu>
Proponent: Jeremy Rosenberger <mus...@henge1.henge.com>
Proponent: Kent Sandvik <san...@sgi.com>
Proponent: D'Arcy Smith <DSm...@symantec.com>
Mentor: Russ Allbery <ea...@cyclone.Stanford.EDU>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpat...@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: all groups
There are two main reasons we need a reorganization: too much
cross-posting and too much misposting. In addition we want to add a
couple of groups for discussing emerging areas of Java technology
(databases and software tools).
Cross-posting is now so common in the comp.lang.java.hierarchy that it
defeats the purpose of separate groups. One reason for widespread
cross posting is a lack of meaning in the existing newsgroup names.
When no obvious group suggests itself, posters naturally select several
possible ones. The results tend to blur group definition and reduce
the visibility of other articles.
Posting to the wrong group is the other half of the problem. Besides
making on-topic articles hard to find, this practice in turn encourages
cross-posting from others who find their topic of interest unfolding on
several groups. In other words, cross-posting and misposting reinforce
one another.
Only the truly enthusiastic read the charters when trying to decide
which group to post to. As a result newsgroup names really need to be
very descriptive of their charter, so posters can make their decision
based on the name. The present comp.lang.java hierarchy fails to meet
this standard. This new RFD doesn't try to create a perfect and
unambiguous group structure (assuming such a thing exists). Rather,
the aim is to bring ambiguity down to an acceptable level by creating
a group structure that is more easily understood, and that can be
expanded in a natural way when the need arises.
The normal practice should be that most articles are posted to one
single, correct group. We think the changes proposed will provide this
result.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.beans
The proposal adds a group for Java software components. Software
components form an area of expanding interest, and this group is being
formed to give a more public expression to the current JavaBeans mailing
list that has several hundred subscribers. [BEANS...@javasoft.com]
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.databases
The proposal adds a group for Java and databases. Database access
using Java and the Java DataBase Connectivity libraries is a growing
topic of interest in the Java hierarchy. We propose a separate group
for these issues.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.gui
The proposal adds a group for postings related to the GUI framework
and window toolkits in Java. This topic is one of the highest volume
topics in the comp.lang.java.programmer hierarchy, and giving it a
separate group will considerably lessen the volume in .programmer, as
well as making it simpler for those who wish to focus on windows issues.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.help
The proposal renames .setup to .help Many HELP ME articles are hard to
classify in terms of Java newsgroup and are therefore arbitrarily
posted all over comp.lang.java.*. Extending the scope of .setup to
include general first aid and renaming it to .help will resolve these
two problems.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.machine
This group is renamed from .tech to .machine mainly in order to offer a
more descriptive name to people who believe that any programming
problem is a "technical" problem. In addition, some hardware issues
will inevitably be discussed on comp.lang.java.*, and grouping these
with the Java virtual machine and native methods seems the most natural
choice.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.programmer
The proposal merges the .misc group back into comp.lang.java.programmer.
The charter for this group specifically excludes questions relating to
Java as a programming language - a point that is lost on all but a few
of the posters. The charter is, however, unclear as to which topics
clj.misc is meant to cover, just saying effectively "everything else".
We therefore propose to remove this group. The articles that
legitimately belong here can easily be accommodated by .advocacy,
clj.machine and .softwaretools.
Partly as a consequence of this, the charter for .advocacy is modified
to mark it out more clearly as the default group for nontechnical and
nonprogramming issues.
Many articles on .misc are still addressed to comp.lang.java. These
will from now on be forwarded to comp.lang.java.programmer. The May
1996 reorganization of the comp.lang.java.* hierarchy noted that
comp.lang.java.misc was "one of the two best candidates for a no vote"
I.e. for not being created in the first place.
The proposal merges the .api group back into comp.lang.java.programmer.
The charters for .api and .programmer make an unfortunate distinction
between application programming interfaces and language features. These
issues are hard to separate and cross-posting is the main result of
this. Since articles relating to language features only are not very
numerous at present, we propose to merge these two groups into
comp.lang.java.programmer.
The charter for .programmer is revised to include the content of .api
except application programming covered under other groups. The May
1996 reorganization of the comp.lang.java.* hierarchy noted that
comp.lang.java.api was "one of the two best candidates for a no vote"
I.e. for not being created in the first place.
RATIONALE: comp.lang.java.softwaretools
The proposal adds a group for software tools relating to Java.
Software tools - e.g. Integrated Development Environments (IDEs),
browsers, compilers, JDK tools, etc. - are already a major topic. We
propose to create this group in order to relieve other groups and
eliminate cross-posting of such articles.
CHARTER: all groups
The normal practice should be that most articles are posted to one
single, correct group ONLY. Cross-posting is only appropriate when the
problem is hard to categorize or when it legitimately concerns more
than one group. Answers should be posted to a single group only once
the nature of the problem has been ascertained. Many articles of this
sort should go to comp.lang.java.help (only).
It is not appropriate to post binary class files or long (longer than
one or two screenfuls) source listings on any of these groups. Instead,
the post should reference a WWW or FTP site (short source snippets to
demonstrate a particular point or problem are fine).
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.beans
This unmoderated group is for any and all discussion relating to
JavaBeans and software components in Java. This includes the relationship
of Java to platform-dependent component frameworks such as Microsoft's OLE
(ActiveX) and portable but non-Java frameworks such as Apple's OpenDoc.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.databases
This unmoderated group is for any and all discussion relating to
database access in Java. This includes the standard packages JDBC and
JDBC-ODBC, as well as third party products with similar functions.
Questions about ODBC (Object DataBase Connectivity) or other database
concepts are appropriate to the extent that they have a reasonable
connection with Java programming.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.gui
This unmoderated group is for any and all discussion relating to
GUI toolkits or window frameworks in Java. Topics include the AWT,
Netscape's IFC, Microsoft's planned AFC, Visix's Vibe toolkit, among
others. The newsgroup will also be the appropriate place for
discussion of the JDK event model, mouse and keyboard issues,
bugs in windowing code, and graphics programming in Java. If it
concerns something that can be seen on the screen, it belongs in this
group.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.help
This unmoderated group is for immediate help on any Java problem,
especially when the source of the difficulty is hard to pin down in
terms of topics treated on other groups.
This is the appropriate group for end-users, programmers and
administrators who are having difficulty installing a system capable of
running Java applets or programs. It is also the right group for
people trying to check their understanding of something in the
language, or to troubleshoot something simple.
Subject lines should include the platform that the problem occurs on,
and the browser or compiler version, e.g. [win95 netscape 2.0], [linux
hotjava 1.0 beta2], etc.
This group renames comp.lang.java.setup.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.machine
This unmoderated group is for all aspects of Java technology that are
below the level of the Java source language. This is mostly the
virtual machine, its implementation, bytecodes, class file format,
performance and optimization, possible extensions, porting, etc.
Questions about Java hardware or the suitability of computers and
operating systems for use with Java are also appropriate. Users should
post here about compiling other languages into Java bytecodes, or
problems with native methods.
This group renames comp.lang.java.tech.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.programmer
This unmoderated group is for problems and discussion relating to Java
as a language, programming in general and the application of libraries
and APIs not covered under other groups.
If traffic is high enough, this group may later be split functionally.
In the meantime, posts specific to a class or package should include
its name at the beginning of the title, for example, [awt], [sun.net],
etc., to facilitate easy filtering.
This group merges (renames) comp.lang.java.misc, comp.lang.java.api
into the already existing comp.lang.java.programmer group.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.lang.java.softwaretools
This unmoderated group is for problems and discussion relating to
development tools for Java programming. This includes Integrated
Development Environments (IDEs), Internet browsers, compilers,
decompilers, debuggers, editors, and other software tools.
END CHARTER.
comp.lang.java.* reorg Final Vote Ack
comp.lang.java.softwaretools ---------+
comp.lang.java.programmer (renames comp.lang.java.api and comp.lang.java.misc) --------+|
comp.lang.java.machine (renames comp.lang.java.tech) -------+||
comp.lang.java.help (renames comp.lang.java.setup) ------+|||
comp.lang.java.gui -----+||||
comp.lang.java.databases ----+|||||
comp.lang.java.beans ---+||||||
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rh...@infinet.com Richard S. Hendershot YYYYYYY
rich...@vcn.bc.ca Richard Songhurst NNNNNNN
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller NNYYYYY
R...@technologist.com Thomas Moll NYYYYYY
r...@agaviion.auto-graphics.com Bob Girard YYYYYYY
r...@mobicom.demon.co.uk Rick Stones YYYYYYY
ro...@bix.com Roedy Green YYYNYNY
rol...@ontos.com Roland McKenney YYYYYYY
Ron_H...@mindlink.bc.ca Ron Hayter YYYYYYY
rosm...@pinkinc.com H. A. Rosman NNNNNNN
rpij...@ic.uva.nl Rene Pijlman YYYNYYY
rr...@accessnv.com Richard Rosenheim YYYYYYY
rse...@netcom.com Russ Selph YYYYYYY
rsu...@mixcom.com Robert G. Sutherland YYYYYYY
r...@notesguy.com Richard T. Dickinson YYYYYYY
ruf...@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus YYYYYYY
ru...@td.org.uit.no Rune Braathen YYYYY-Y
ry...@geoworks.com Ryan Hamilton YYYYYYY
r_sh...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Robert Sheehan YYYYYYY
samer...@cimlinc.com Samer Kanjo YYYYYYY
Sandor...@let.ruu.nl Sandor Spruit YYYYYYY
Sandy.G...@gsfc.nasa.gov Sandy Grosvenor YYYYYYY
sa...@almide.demon.co.uk Alexander "Sandy" Anderson YYYYYYY
sch...@andrew.cmu.edu Sandeep Chand YYYYYYY
sch...@cs.ucsb.edu Steve Chapel YYY-YYY
sch...@radius.mae.cornell.edu Peter Schmidt YYYYYYY
sch...@nightlife.escape.de Hansjoerg Oppermann YYYYYYY
sdos...@cs.columbia.edu Steve Dossick YYYYYYY
sd...@mmts.eds.com Sean Dowd YYYYYYY
see.m...@epk.ericsson.se Anders Olsson YYYYYYY
sha...@cam.org Justin F Knotzke YYYYYYY
sidb...@synapse.net Sidney Beauchamp YYYYYYY
sim...@cig.mot.com Rick Simkin -YYYYYY
sk...@pacbell.net Simon K. Barrow YYYYYYY
sk...@visix.com Skip Sauls YYYYYYY
sk...@rumms.uni-mannheim.de Stefan Koch YYYYYYY
skov...@metrowerks.dot.com Scott Kovatch YYYYYYY
sla...@worldnet.att.net Sean Lamb YY-Y--Y
s...@karpes.stu.rpi.edu Simon Karpen YYYYYYY
so...@mail.utexas.edu Soon Y. Choi YYYYYYY
S...@tntv3.ntrs.com Steve Bonine YYYYY-Y
sri...@iss.nus.sg SRIDHARAN RANGARAJAN YYYYYYY
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown NNNNNNN
stei...@primenet.com Jason and Heather NNNNNNN
ste...@magenta.com STella YYYYYYY
st...@Watt.COM Steve Watt -- KD6GGD YY-YY-Y
ste...@compcat.com STEVEN HILL YYYY-YY
stu...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz stuart yeates YYYYYYY
stu...@gol.com Stuart Woodward YYYYYYY
svi...@saratoga.compassnet.com Stephen Victor YYYYNYN
sz...@well.com Mark Szpakowski YYYYYYY
tc...@bellcore.com Ta Chen YYYYYYY
td...@cat.syr.edu Thorsten Daum YYYYYYY
t...@zombie.ncsc.mil Terry Suitor YYYYYYY
tho...@mayo.dircon.co.uk Thomas O'Donohoe YYYYYYY
th...@themall.net Thornton Prime YYNNYNY
tip...@ibm.net Jim Tipping YYYYYYY
tkr...@acm.org Thomas K. Riley YYYYYYY
tl...@sn.no Tore Lund YYYYYYY
tla...@amug.org Todd C. Lawson NNNNNNN
tor...@ponton.uni-hannover.de Torsten Rueger YYYYYYY
tro...@redwood.dn.hac.com Tricia Roush YYYYNYY
t...@netgate.net Theodore Leung YYYYYYY
umgo...@cc.umanitoba.ca Kenneth Brian Gomez. --Y--Y-
urb...@tir.com Avis Rouge YYYYYYY
Urs.E...@ubs.ch Urs Eberle YYYYYYY
vel...@pobox.com Manny Veloso YYYYYYY
viktor....@i-dial.de Viktor Ransmayr Y-Y-YYY
vi...@geom.helsinki.fi Ville Hakulinen YYYYYYY
vis...@halcyon.com Andy Kriger YYYYYYY
vne...@zems.fer.hr Vjekoslav Nesek YYYYYYY
vos...@csn.net Roger Vossler YYYYYYY
vson...@pvv.ntnu.no Vidar Sonerud YYYYYYY
wak...@pinn.net Tom Wakelyn NYNNNYN
walte...@sni.de Walter van Iterson Y-YYYYY
war...@it.uq.edu.au Warwick Allison YYYYYYY
wat...@CEBAF.GOV Chip Watson YYYYYYY
wdie...@rmi.net William Dieterich YYYYYYY
Wer...@axioma.co.at Werner Punz YYYYYYY
who...@pniltd.com Wes Hodges YYYYYYY
wil...@msmail.carsinfo.com William L. Harris YYYYYYY
xant...@well.com Kent Paul Dolan YYYYYYY
z...@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming YYYYYYY
zorz...@dcc.unicamp.br Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella YYYYYYY
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