To Pterry: If I could write it again, I would...
Ahmad Al-Nusif
If you had the chance to rewrite (revise) some of the older DW novels, what
would you change??
I think EVERYONE will agree that Death in TCoM is different than the current one
so this would be target number one. Any others??
Ahmad
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Ahmad J. Al-Nusif
morp...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw
Computer Engineering Major
Kuwait University
Barny Shergold
morp...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw "Ahmad Al-Nusif" writes:
> Pterry,
> If you had the chance to rewrite (revise) some of the older DW novels, what
> would you change??
> I think EVERYONE will agree that Death in TCoM is different than the current one> so this would be target number one. Any others??
>
> Ahmad
Well he _did_ rewrite the 'Carpet People'. I bought a copy of this 'new' version
and thought, "Hey, I'd like to read the original." Lo and behold I can't find
a copy _anywhere_. Where did they all go? I reckon that Terry has got 'em all
stacked up in the potting shed at the bottom of his garden. So Terry tell us,
"Where are all the copies of the _original_ 'Carpet People'?"
(The public has a right to know)
(Actually - "The public has a right to red hot pokers up the nostrils" - Vetinari)
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Terry Pratchett
morp...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw "Ahmad Al-Nusif" writes:
> Pterry,
> If you had the chance to rewrite (revise) some of the older DW novels, what
> would you change??
> I think EVERYONE will agree that Death in TCoM is different than the current one> so this would be target number one. Any others??
Not a thing. Where would I stop? I'd write Guards! Guards! differently
today. Come to that, I'd rewrite a book six months after publication. You
have to stop somewhere.
I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought there was a
*big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now.
Terry Pratchett
Alan Bellingham
Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk "Terry Pratchett" writes:
But you lost the pictures! They gave it a lot of the atmosphere.
Alan Bellingham
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Obscurity
> I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought there was a
> *big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now.
Err....forgive my ignorance, but does this mean you've re-written The Carpet
People ?
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A spray of red and a glare of white, replaced by black like the darkest night."
Obsc...@burnout.demon.co.uk "It's just like always coming down" - A.E.
Nathan Torkington
> Come to that, I'd rewrite a book six months after publication. You
> have to stop somewhere.
My favourite musician, Bela Fleck, said that an album reflects the
state of compositions at the time the album was made. I guess you
could make a similar argument for books being snapshots of works in
progress. It'd be a stupid argument, mind you, so there's probably a
PhD in it.
Not that I'm sceptical of the quality of literary research at our
institutions of higher learning. Oh deary me, no.
Nat
Alan Robson
: Well he _did_ rewrite the 'Carpet People'. I bought a copy of this 'new' version
: and thought, "Hey, I'd like to read the original." Lo and behold I can't find
: a copy _anywhere_. Where did they all go? I reckon that Terry has got 'em all
: stacked up in the potting shed at the bottom of his garden. So Terry tell us,
: "Where are all the copies of the _original_ 'Carpet People'?"
I've got one. If you want to read it all you have to do is fly 12,500
miles to sit in my library (I don't allow it off the premises).
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Terry Pratchett
Obsc...@burnout.demon.co.uk "Obscurity" writes:
> In article <789047...@unseen.demon.co.uk>
> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk "Terry Pratchett" writes:
>
> > I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought there was a
> > *big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now.
>
> Err....forgive my ignorance, but does this mean you've re-written The Carpet
> People ?
The version that's been out for the last two years or so is V1.1
V2.0 is in beta :-)
Terry Pratchett
Terry Pratchett
sap...@pearwood.demon.co.uk "Barny Shergold" writes:
> Well he _did_ rewrite the 'Carpet People'. I bought a copy of this 'new' version> and thought, "Hey, I'd like to read the original." Lo and behold I can't find
> a copy _anywhere_. Where did they all go? I reckon that Terry has got 'em all
> stacked up in the potting shed at the bottom of his garden. So Terry tell us,
> "Where are all the copies of the _original_ 'Carpet People'?"
Well, most of the ones in public libraries have been stolen. The rest of
them have been changing hands at around gbp250, although I have heard of higher
sums being paid.
Terry Pratchett
David.Black
> Well, most of the ones in public libraries have been stolen. The rest of
> them have been changing hands at around gbp250, although I have heard of higher
> sums being paid.
This is interesting!. Is there a _value_ attached to older books by our
main man?. Anyone out there actually sold a book?. I mean how can anyone
sell a book [short of starvation] its like abandoning kittens, or kicking
a dog!.
> Terry Pratchett
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Rich Holmes
And in other industry news, MicroPratchett CEO Bill Door has announced
that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
Industry analysts blamed the delay on the recent decision to buy
TolkeinWare and incorporate an updated version of the entire text of
The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings as a builtin
feature of Carpets 95.
The rival firm Adams Literature hopes to release Hitchhiker 8.0 in
4Q95, but pundits universally regard this target date as hopelessly
optimistic.
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- Rich Holmes
I'm sure if Vimes were to say 'Jump!', Detritus would say 'What colour?'
- Terry Pratchett
Charles Bishop
In article <789047...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
I received as a Christmas gift a copy of Dickens' _Christmas Carol_, with
a copy of Dickens' manuscript interspersed with the typeset story. It was
interesting to see the changes he had made.
I hope PTerry is keeping his rewriting for future scholars. It must be difficult
since he uses a word processor. While it would be impractical to keep every
change, I hope he keeps copies of the major rewrites.
TTFN,
Charles
Barny Shergold
> > Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk "Terry Pratchett" writes:
> >
> > > I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought there was a
> > > *big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now.
> >
> > Err....forgive my ignorance, but does this mean you've re-written The Carpet
> > People ?
>
> The version that's been out for the last two years or so is V1.1
>
> V2.0 is in beta :-)
>
> Terry Pratchett
>
Hey! Can I be a beta-tester? Or does this mean that V2.0 will be 'beta' than V1.1?
Terry Pratchett
David...@ncl.ac.uk "David.Black" writes:
> This is interesting!. Is there a _value_ attached to older books by our
> main man?. Anyone out there actually sold a book?. I mean how can anyone
> sell a book [short of starvation] its like abandoning kittens, or kicking
> a dog!.
Since I don't buy 'em, I'm not up with the prices, but I know that 1st
editions of the Carpet People have gone for over gbp250, and the earlier
Discworld hardcovers have reached three figures. According to an article
in a collectors' magazine, a 1st edition UK hardover of The Light Fantastic
might fetch gbp750 (this'd be the Colin Smythe edition WITHOUT the UK blurb
pasted over the US one -- loads had to be reimported from the US to meet
demand).
Terry Pratchett
Duncan Gibson
> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk "Terry Pratchett" writes:
>> morp...@access.ods.gulfnet.kw "Ahmad Al-Nusif" writes:
>> > If you had the chance to rewrite (revise) some of the older DW novels, what
>> > would you change??
>> Not a thing.
>> I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought there was a
>> *big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now.
>But you lost the pictures! They gave it a lot of the atmosphere.
Maybe thats what he meant by
"there was a *big* gap between what I could do then and what I can do now".
But I agree, the pictures are a great addition.
Duncan
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Chris E. Becht
: >
: Hey! Can I be a beta-tester? Or does this mean that V2.0 will be 'beta' than V1.1?
Nah! Just means that no-one but Sony will ever make anything to
fit it.
--
Life is like a cow.
You get out of it what you put in. cali...@crl.com
But, umm... different somehow.
Pat & Richard Bryant
In article <RSHOLMES.9...@hydra.syr.EDU>, Rich Holmes (rsho...@hydra.syr.EDU) writes:
>In article <789174...@unseen.demon.co.uk> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
>
>>The version that's been out for the last two years or so is V1.1
>>
>>V2.0 is in beta :-)
>>
>>Terry Pratchett
>
>And in other industry news, MicroPratchett CEO Bill Door has announced
>that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
>literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
>
>Industry analysts blamed the delay on the recent decision to buy
>TolkeinWare and incorporate an updated version of the entire text of
>The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings as a builtin
>feature of Carpets 95.
>
>The rival firm Adams Literature hopes to release Hitchhiker 8.0 in
>4Q95, but pundits universally regard this target date as hopelessly
>optimistic.
>
Is this truly from Rich Holmes, the Merkin Crusader for r*l*v*nc*
in afp?
"Deary, deary me" to quote...er....somebody.
P'Charnkov! the other day upon the stair
i met a man who wasn't there
he wasn't there again today
Bryan i think he's from the CIA
just because i'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me
paranoia means never feeling alone
Duncan Gibson
>Barny Shergold (sap...@pearwood.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: Well he _did_ rewrite the 'Carpet People'. I bought a copy of this 'new' version
>: and thought, "Hey, I'd like to read the original." Lo and behold I can't find
>: a copy _anywhere_. Where did they all go? I reckon that Terry has got 'em all
>: stacked up in the potting shed at the bottom of his garden. So Terry tell us,
>: "Where are all the copies of the _original_ 'Carpet People'?"
>I've got one. If you want to read it all you have to do is fly 12,500
>miles to sit in my library (I don't allow it off the premises).
Just in case 12,500 miles is too far, I've got one too. I'm sure I must
be a good oh 1,000 miles closer. :-)
Unfortunately, I don't have a library, so you'll have to stand up in the
hallway... next to the bookcase.
Terry seems to think they're worth quite a bit. But I think this is a
beat up. Once he's talked the price up far enough, you can all buy one
from his potting shed. :-)
peag...@void.tdcnet.nl
You could stop a lot of that happening if you authorised a paperback
republishing of the original story.
--
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ACUPUNCTURE: A spiteful habit much favoured by the shifty Chinese.
Hugo Rune, The Book of Ultimate Truths
Terry Pratchett
cbi...@netcom.com "Charles Bishop" writes:
>
> I received as a Christmas gift a copy of Dickens' _Christmas Carol_, with
> a copy of Dickens' manuscript interspersed with the typeset story. It was
> interesting to see the changes he had made.
>
> I hope PTerry is keeping his rewriting for future scholars. It must be difficult> since he uses a word processor. While it would be impractical to keep every
> change, I hope he keeps copies of the major rewrites.
>
I save about twenty drafts -- that's ten meg of disc space -- and the last one
contains all the final alterations. Once it has been printed out and
received by the publishers, there's a cry here of 'Tough shit, literary
researchers of the future, try getting a proper job!' and the rest are wiped.
Terry Pratchett
Terry Pratchett
peag...@void.tdcnet.nl writes:
>
> You could stop a lot of that happening if you authorised a paperback
> republishing of the original story.
Uh...why? The original ones are 'valuable' because they are, well, original --
the actual first edition.
Terry Pratchett
Brad Wallace
>
>In article <RSHOLMES.9...@hydra.syr.EDU>, Rich Holmes (rsho...@hydra.syr.EDU) writes:
>>In article <789174...@unseen.demon.co.uk> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
>>
><snip>
>>>The version that's been out for the last two years or so is V1.1
>>>
>>>V2.0 is in beta :-)
>>>
>>>Terry Pratchett
>>
>>And in other industry news, MicroPratchett CEO Bill Door has announced
>>that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
>>literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
>>
>>Industry analysts blamed the delay on the recent decision to buy
>>TolkeinWare and incorporate an updated version of the entire text of
>>The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings as a builtin
>>feature of Carpets 95.
>>
>>The rival firm Adams Literature hopes to release Hitchhiker 8.0 in
>>4Q95, but pundits universally regard this target date as hopelessly
>>optimistic.
>>
>>- Rich Holmes
>Is this truly from Rich Holmes, the Merkin Crusader for r*l*v*nc*
>in afp?
>"Deary, deary me" to quote...er....somebody.
You missed the "Bill Door" reference, relating the post to
Reaper Man (I'm pretty sure - haven't read it in a while) and thus
making the post more r*l*v*nt than a lot of the stuff in
a.f.p.
On the subject of posts and a.f.p., the relative lull in traffic
over the holidays has induced me to read *all* of the articles
(something I have not been able to do since Sept.). Feels quite nice.
-BRAD- (waiting for the storm after the quiet)
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Rich Holmes
>br...@cornwick.win-uk.net (Pat & Richard Bryant) writes:
>>In article <RSHOLMES.9...@hydra.syr.EDU>, Rich Holmes (rsho...@hydra.syr.EDU) writes:
>>>And in other industry news, MicroPratchett CEO Bill Door has announced
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
>>>that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
>>>literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Industry analysts blamed the delay on the recent decision to buy
>>>TolkeinWare and incorporate an updated version of the entire text of
>>>The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings as a builtin
>>>feature of Carpets 95.
^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>The rival firm Adams Literature hopes to release Hitchhiker 8.0 in
>>>4Q95, but pundits universally regard this target date as hopelessly
>>>optimistic.
>>>
>>>- Rich Holmes
>
>>Is this truly from Rich Holmes, the Merkin Crusader for r*l*v*nc*
>>in afp?
>
>>"Deary, deary me" to quote...er....somebody.
>
>You missed the "Bill Door" reference, relating the post to
>Reaper Man (I'm pretty sure - haven't read it in a while) and thus
>making the post more r*l*v*nt than a lot of the stuff in
>a.f.p.
Pat and/or Richard seems to be confusing the words "irrelevant" and
"irreverent".
He and/or she also seems to be confusing me with someone who thinks
a.f.p ought to contain nothing but sober, informative announcements
and analyses of the deeper underlying meaning of Pratchett's works.
Horseshit.
I'd like to see a.f.p be about, oh, say 85% relevant, about 10%
reverent, and about 0% bozotic. (Percentages may not total 100%
because there is no reason why they should.) It isn't, but I'm
finding an enormous killfile helpful in weeding out the chaff, to mix
a metaphor.
GloHar
work.
Harry C. Brown
Guido tum Suden
Am 02.01.95 schrieb Terryp in der Newsgroup ALT.FAN.PRATCHETT:
TP> I made an exception of The Carpet People because I thought
TP> there was a *big* gap between what I could do then and what I
TP> can do now.
Very nice indeed, but *when* will the story continue?
Es gruesst... Guido tum Suden
Piers Cawley -- System Admin
> This is interesting!. Is there a _value_ attached to older books by our
> main man?. Anyone out there actually sold a book?. I mean how can anyone
> sell a book [short of starvation] its like abandoning kittens, or kicking
> a dog!.
Since I don't buy 'em, I'm not up with the prices, but I know that 1st
editions of the Carpet People have gone for over gbp250, and the earlier
Discworld hardcovers have reached three figures. According to an article
in a collectors' magazine, a 1st edition UK hardover of The Light Fantastic
might fetch gbp750 (this'd be the Colin Smythe edition WITHOUT the UK blurb
pasted over the US one -- loads had to be reimported from the US to meet
demand).
Coo, I think I've got a first edition hardcover for Equal Rites somewhere. I
presume that this is rather less valuable than The Light Fantastic.
--
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Frontier Internet -- Sellers of Web Space and Internet Connectivity
Lars Balker Rasmussen
br...@cornwick.win-uk.net (Pat & Richard Bryant) writes:
>In article <RSHOLMES.9...@hydra.syr.EDU>, Rich Holmes (rsho...@hydra.syr.EDU) writes:
>>that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
>>literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
>Is this truly from Rich Holmes, the Merkin Crusader for r*l*v*nc*
>in afp?
Just because Rich knows the difference between `humour' and `idiocy'?
Nah...
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John Winters
: In article <1995Jan4.1...@void.tdcnet.nl>
In Australia you can (or at least, could when I lived there), buy franked
first day covers from the post office before, on, or after the relevant
first day. Similarly, I have seen adverts recently for things made of
"genuine artificial gold" and "real imitation leather". Television news
reports carry the description "Recorded live". Perhaps there would be
money in "guaranteed authentic fake first editions"?
John
Paula Mickevich
In article <789312...@unseen.demon.co.uk> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
I save about twenty drafts -- that's ten meg of disc space -- and the last one
contains all the final alterations. Once it has been printed out and
received by the publishers, there's a cry here of 'Tough shit, literary
researchers of the future, try getting a proper job!' and the rest are wiped.
Terry Pratchett
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Phil
>In article <1995Jan4.1...@void.tdcnet.nl>
> peag...@void.tdcnet.nl writes:
>> You could stop a lot of that happening if you authorised a paperback
>> republishing of the original story.
>
>Uh...why? The original ones are 'valuable' because they are, well, original
>
>Terry Pratchett
Because, IMHO, there are some low-life inconsiderate scum who think that just
because they can't buy something, they should steal it. I certainly can't
afford GBP 250 to read a book, yet am interested in reading early TP work,
and would quite willingly buy a new paperback reprint to supplement my V1.1
How about it for a Spring release to keep us sane [1] ?
Phil Pennock; not very subtle hinter
[1] I _need_ my TP infusions to kep me from cracking up at the world /
hitting someone. They allow me to look on the bright side [2]
[2] Are there any Monty Python references in DW books? I haven't spotted any
David Hazel
Surely, any author builds on past work by writing new stuff, not
by re-writing old stuff? Otherwise, we'd have an endless string of
re-writes (like the re-makes they do in Hollywood, only without the
glitz).
I think the best anyone can do with past efforts of any kind is to
learn from them and use the experience to improve future work. This
applies to all professions, not just to writing. It's called
"developing a career".
--
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D. A. Hazel (Software Systems) Limited,
Long Eaton,
Nottingham
Obscurity
Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk "Terry Pratchett" writes:
> > You could stop a lot of that happening if you authorised a paperback
> > republishing of the original story.
>
> Uh...why? The original ones are 'valuable' because they are, well, original --
> the actual first edition.
I would have thought (well, I *would* if I could...) that a part of the reason
they are more 'valuable' is simply because some people want to own 'the full
set' as it were, and can't get hold of the original version.
For example, the early Sisters Of Mercy singles used to go for horrendous
amounts, until they were re-released as a compilation ('Some Girls Wander By
Mistake'), so that all us sad fans could have the songs without having to pay
100-200 quid for some of 'em . . .
--
Obscurity.
"A flash of steel and a scream of pain. The pain is short and won't come again
A spray of red and a glare of white, replaced by black like the darkest night."
Obsc...@burnout.demon.co.uk "It's just like always coming down" - A.E.
Barny Shergold
> editions of the Carpet People have gone for over gbp250, and the earlier
> Discworld hardcovers have reached three figures. According to an article
> in a collectors' magazine, a 1st edition UK hardover of The Light Fantastic
> might fetch gbp750 (this'd be the Colin Smythe edition WITHOUT the UK blurb
> pasted over the US one -- loads had to be reimported from the US to meet
> demand).
Rites' and 'Sourcery'.
Any ideas how much these are worth?
James Allen
P.D.P....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk "Phil" writes:
> In article <789312...@unseen.demon.co.uk> Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes:
> >
> >Uh...why? The original ones are 'valuable' because they are, well, original
> >- the actual first edition.
> >
> >Terry Pratchett
>
> Because, IMHO, there are some low-life inconsiderate scum who think that just
> because they can't buy something, they should steal it. I certainly can't
> afford GBP 250 to read a book, yet am interested in reading early TP work,
> and would quite willingly buy a new paperback reprint to supplement my V1.1
>
> Phil Pennock; not very subtle hinter
I'd also like to see the original text of The Carpet People, but I appreciate
why it wouldn't be feasible to re-issue the first edition. May I propose a
possible compromise?
Why dosen't someone[1] put together an "Annotated TCP" - that is, a document
which gives the readings in the first edition that differ from the second.
I doubt whether it could be printed, but I'm sure that it could be made
available for download from the Archives - subject, of course, to all the
nasty little copyright thingies being sorted out with Pterry, or whoever's
responsible.
Jim
[1] One of the fortunate mortals[2] with access to both books, of course.
[2] Replace as appropriate. On an *I* matter, are any of my fellow
CompuServers feeling over-awed by the 70004's and 70000's that are descending
from Cori "Columbus" Celesti to address us humble oecumenici[3] about the GIF
controversy? I've been involuntarily genuflecting to my monitor....
[3] Only synonym for "mortal" that I can think of off-hand - sorry.
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Barny Shergold
> I save about twenty drafts -- that's ten meg of disc space -- and the last one
> contains all the final alterations. Once it has been printed out and
> received by the publishers, there's a cry here of 'Tough shit, literary
> researchers of the future, try getting a proper job!' and the rest are wiped.
>
> Terry Pratchett
>
Perhaps you could post extracts from your old versions so we can compare them
to the _real_ books? Then we can discuss _why_ you changed them? Opens up a
whole new can of worms there!
jrw...@ibm.net
>Similarly, I have seen adverts recently for things made of
>"genuine artificial gold" and "real imitation leather". Television news
>reports carry the description "Recorded live". Perhaps there would be
>money in "guaranteed authentic fake first editions"?
>John
>
Evidently Throat is alive and well. But perhaps even more in the true CMOT spirit is
a brand of cocktail sausage called Kabanos. The packaging of said delicacy carries the
proud boast "minimum 100% meat".
Phil
>I think people spend too much time wishing to change the past.
>Surely, any author builds on past work by writing new stuff, not
>by re-writing old stuff? Otherwise, we'd have an endless string of
>re-writes (like the re-makes they do in Hollywood, only without the
>glitz).
>
>I think the best anyone can do with past efforts of any kind is to
>learn from them and use the experience to improve future work. This
>applies to all professions, not just to writing. It's called
>"developing a career".
True. But, since you've got the same Subject line as my posting, I'll assume
that you're commenting upon my posting & the reply, in which case:
I'm _not_ wanting the past changed; I'm _not_ wanting any books rewritten. I
simply want to be able to read a book which has been published without having
to pay GBP250+ for the privilege. Libraries are there for this purpose, but,
as has already been said, these copies have for the most part been nicked and
I don't have access to a Copyright Library. Laugh away Dave Damerell! [1]
Phil Pennock; if you weren't commenting on what I said, your Subject line is
wrong.
[1] Bitter? Me? Noo. I just wish libraries employed more orangutans to
keep the thieving b@#$%^ds away.
peag...@void.tdcnet.nl
>I save about twenty drafts -- that's ten meg of disc space -- and the last one
>contains all the final alterations. Once it has been printed out and
>received by the publishers, there's a cry here of 'Tough shit, literary
>researchers of the future, try getting a proper job!' and the rest are wiped.
Absolutely no chance of previously unknown manuscripts turning up a century
later (as happened with a Jules Verne ms fairly recently). 8-(
peag...@void.tdcnet.nl
OK, the premise was seriously flawed, but a lot of us are very curious about
the original and would like to compare it to the later version.
Dan Staines
P.D.P....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Phil) wrote:
(large chunks surgically removed)
> True. But, since you've got the same Subject line as my posting, I'll assume
> that you're commenting upon my posting & the reply, in which case:
> I'm _not_ wanting the past changed; I'm _not_ wanting any books rewritten. I
> simply want to be able to read a book which has been published without having
> to pay GBP250+ for the privilege. Libraries are there for this purpose, but,
> as has already been said, these copies have for the most part been nicked and
> I don't have access to a Copyright Library. Laugh away Dave Damerell! [1]
supposedly, all books published since 1977) However, it has NEITHER Carpet
People editions or the Nome series, although all other editions of Pterry's
books are present. Odd that - conspiracy? Or maybe they just don't carry
kiddie-aimed books. Actually, theres no Sandman collections either...
Perhaps the Bodliean or the British Library might? It bloody well should
do...
From: Dan Staines
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Cambridge
Tennis Court Road
Cambridge CB2 1QW
Tel: (0223) 333666
e-mail: d...@molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk
jrw...@ibm.net
>In article <1995Jan7.0...@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>,
>P.D.P....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Phil) wrote:
>(large chunks surgically removed)
>do...
>
Nope. At least, when I last looked (over a year ago), it didn't claim to have anything
except Sourcery and Wyrd Sisters. Personally, I reckon they're all there, but locked
up in special humour-proof rooms which you can only enter after special training and
surgical excision of the funny bone (joining the civil service will do).
What I'd really like to track down is a copy of Vetinari's "The Servant" It should
perhaps be distributed free to the current sad crop of world leaders. :-)
Jase.
Simon Harrowing
In article <dms-0701...@swhbmac9.bioc.cam.ac.uk>
d...@molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk (Dan Staines) writes:
>Actually, I have access to a Copyright library (the main library here has,
>supposedly, all books published since 1977) However, it has NEITHER Carpet
>People editions or the Nome series, although all other editions of Pterry's
>books are present. Odd that - conspiracy? Or maybe they just don't carry
>kiddie-aimed books. Actually, theres no Sandman collections either...
>Perhaps the Bodliean or the British Library might? It bloody well should
>do...
Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen Fry's 'The
Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of pornography in the
basement?
No particular reason, the idea just intrigued me... <g>
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Peter Murray
br...@cornwick.win-uk.net (Pat & Richard Bryant) wrote:
>In article <RSHOLMES.9...@hydra.syr.EDU>, Rich Holmes
>(rsho...@hydra.syr.EDU) writes:
>>And in other industry news, MicroPratchett CEO Bill Door has announced
>>that the shipping date for the "next world standard in fantasy
>>literature", Carpets 95, has slipped to 3Q96.
<snip-snip>
>Is this truly from Rich Holmes, the Merkin Crusader for r*l*v*nc*
>in afp?
Also Rich Holmes, a frequent poster in alt.religion.kibology, the
newsgroup that's _devoted_ to irrelevance!
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Peter Murray
Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) wrote:
>Since I don't buy 'em, I'm not up with the prices, but I know that 1st
>editions of the Carpet People have gone for over gbp250,
Um... this isn't meant to be rude... in Discworld Companion (yay! got it as
a Christmas present!) there's a mention that your books before TCoM weren't
wildly successful... just wondering if some of the first edition Carpet
People were remaindered then.
Shame you can't get royalties on the 250 pounds.
John Winters
> Evidently Throat is alive and well. But perhaps even more in
> the true CMOT spirit is a brand of cocktail sausage called
> Kabanos. The packaging of said delicacy carries the proud
> boast "minimum 100% meat".
An old girl friend of mine had a job marketing dog food. Their product
claimed to be "at least 100% meat", and her argument justifying it was
that if you take meat and add water the result is less than 100% meat, so
if you take meat and boil it up, removing some of the water, the result
is more than 100% meat. Mind you, their definition of "meat" would have
suited CMOT as well - it included skin, claws, beaks, bones and trotters
- basically all the bits that you couldn't sell in a butchers.
John
Daniel Barlow
before some witless cretin from either Oxford or Cambridge (which
includes me -- this Warwick persona is a fake) will start boasting
about some aspect of their/our university. Please don't.
In article <dms-0701...@swhbmac9.bioc.cam.ac.uk>,
d...@molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk (Dan Staines) writes:
>Actually, I have access to a Copyright library (the main library here has,
>supposedly, all books published since 1977) However, it has NEITHER Carpet
>People editions or the Nome series, although all other editions of Pterry's
The Bodleian computer catalogue (telnet library.ox.ac.uk) has the
second edition only. It does have the Nome books, but I've got them
anyway ...
The library itself may have the first edition -- I'll take a look if
they ever get around to sending me a new card -- as the computer
catalogue only contains recent books for the most part.
Daniel
Phil
>[snipped]
>Also Rich Holmes, a frequent poster in alt.religion.kibology, the
>newsgroup that's _devoted_ to irrelevance!
So? Everything in its place. Rich complained about afp being unusable for
something officially devoted to a specific author. I only disagreed with him
before because I think that him reforms would be difficult (!) to implement.
The reasoning _behind_ them is OK. I'm in favour of a.f.mended-drum. If
alt.fan.kibology is _supposed_ to be irrelevant, then there's nothing wrong
with posting irrelevancy to it. Rich's comments [1] were irrelevant, _but_
more or less TP based; not about roundabouts. Give me an a.f.m-d to post to
and I will, though it would probably involve a gradual weaning away from afp
via cross-posting.
In this instance, I support Rich.
Phil Pennock; some people may be slightly surprised...
[1] The ones that spawned these attacks.
Cian O Kiersey
>In article <dms-0701...@swhbmac9.bioc.cam.ac.uk>,
> d...@molecular-studies.biology.cambridge.ac.uk (Dan Staines) writes:
>>Actually, I have access to a Copyright library (the main library here has,
>>supposedly, all books published since 1977) However, it has NEITHER Carpet
>>People editions or the Nome series, although all other editions of Pterry's
This could bebecause the Carpet People was first published in 1971.
hmm.. we have 3 editions of TCP, 4 of Truckers, and 2 (each) of wings
and wossname. (at Trinity Colege Dublin, I might add)
Cian.
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>
> In <D1zrG...@cix.compulink.co.uk>, j...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("John
> Winters") writes:
> >"genuine artificial gold" and "real imitation leather". Television news
> >reports carry the description "Recorded live". Perhaps there would be
> >money in "guaranteed authentic fake first editions"?
> >John
> >
>
> CMOT spirit is a brand of cocktail sausage called Kabanos. The packaging
> of said delicacy carries the proud boast "minimum 100% meat".
We've been here before. I think we came to the conclusion that if the
sodium nitrite or whatever was ommitted, the result would be allowed to
call itself 102% meat.
And since when has a Kabanos been a *cocktail* sausage? The things should
be half as large as your forearm!
Alan Bellingham
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S I Langridge
: > == si...@harrowng.demon.co.uk (Simon Harrowing)
: > Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen
: > Fry's 'The Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of
: > pornography in the basement?
: The University Libraries at Cambridge, Oxford and Dublin have been
: Copyright libraries for Quite Some Time... other universities have them
: also, but IIRC not for as long a time...
: And yes, we do have stacks and stacks of pornography... and stacks and
: stacks of just about everything else... my favourite book title in
: Trinity's catalogue is "Vampire Lesbians of Sodom" :)
What, you mean the Bod etc. really do have things like 'Clingfilm
Fantasies' and all that? I thought Fry had made it up! Excellent...
Aq - wondering how much the train fare to Oxford is.....
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Emmet Obrien
Colm Buckley (cbuc...@tcd.ie) wrote:
: > == si...@harrowng.demon.co.uk (Simon Harrowing)
: > Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen
: > Fry's 'The Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of
: > pornography in the basement?
: The University Libraries at Cambridge, Oxford and Dublin have been
: Copyright libraries for Quite Some Time... other universities have them
: also, but IIRC not for as long a time...
: And yes, we do have stacks and stacks of pornography... and stacks and
: stacks of just about everything else... my favourite book title in
: Trinity's catalogue is "Vampire Lesbians of Sodom" :)
What, you mean the Bod etc. really do have things like 'Clingfilm
Fantasies' and all that? I thought Fry had made it up! Excellent...
Aq - wondering how much the train fare to Oxford is.....
has been stolen.. BTW, Vampire Lesbians of Sodom is a play, not a bad one
either.. no, I'm not going to tell you what it's about, but it's not what
you think..
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(snick-snack)
> : > Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen
> : > Fry's 'The Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of
> : > pornography in the basement?
> : And yes, we do have stacks and stacks of pornography... and stacks and
> : stacks of just about everything else... my favourite book title in
> : Trinity's catalogue is "Vampire Lesbians of Sodom" :)
>
> What, you mean the Bod etc. really do have things like 'Clingfilm
> Fantasies' and all that? I thought Fry had made it up! Excellent...
I am reliably informed by my house-mate (a philosopher, or so he claims)
that there are huge amounts of pornography - mostly Victorian - in the
basements of the UL (as Fry claims) but that they are highly restricted and
you need a VERY good excuse to go down there - i.e. being a dirty-minded
old fellow with lots of time (is that a euphemism?) on his hands.
Colm Buckley
> Don't bother, if Dublin is anything to go by, anything along those
> lines has been stolen.. BTW, Vampire Lesbians of Sodom is a play, not
> a bad one either.. no, I'm not going to tell you what it's about, but
> it's not what you think..
Why Emmet... however would you know :-)
Colm "fresh from a cheap beer promotion at the Pav, so don't expect
too much sense from me" Buckley
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S I Langridge
: > Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen
: > Fry's 'The Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of
: > pornography in the basement?
: The University Libraries at Cambridge, Oxford and Dublin have been
: Copyright libraries for Quite Some Time... other universities have them
: also, but IIRC not for as long a time...
: And yes, we do have stacks and stacks of pornography... and stacks and
: stacks of just about everything else... my favourite book title in
: Trinity's catalogue is "Vampire Lesbians of Sodom" :)
What, you mean the Bod etc. really do have things like 'Clingfilm
Fantasies' and all that? I thought Fry had made it up! Excellent...
Aq - wondering how much the train fare to Oxford is.....
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> P.D.P....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Phil) wrote:
> (large chunks surgically removed)
> Actually, I have access to a Copyright library (the main library here has,
> supposedly, all books published since 1977) However, it has NEITHER Carpet
> People editions or the Nome series, although all other editions of Pterry's
> books are present. Odd that - conspiracy? Or maybe they just don't carry
> kiddie-aimed books. Actually, theres no Sandman collections either...
> Perhaps the Bodliean or the British Library might? It bloody well should
> do...
Rev. Ed. (it does have all TPs other works though as well as the Sandman
collections, so yar boo sucks Fen dwellers :) ). I've heard of the missing
chapter, but this is ridiculous, the only reported copy of the non-Rev. Ed.
Carpet People was stolen from a library, did it ever actually exist or is it a
conspiracy by the CIA, FBI, the oil companies and the wash room attendant at
the white house?
Mike
>
Dan Staines
(Daniel Barlow) wrote:
>
> It being the start of the new term, I make it approx. ten minutes
> before some witless cretin from either Oxford or Cambridge (which
> includes me -- this Warwick persona is a fake) will start boasting
> about some aspect of their/our university. Please don't.
Besides, term doesn't start till next week here - undergrads have bloody
long holidays here (that was not a signal for abuse from Cambridge
undergrads by the way...)
From: Dan Staines (did his first degree in Leicester for the record...)
Department of Biochemistry (not an undergrad)
University of Cambridge (nice place but not a patch on Leicester)
Tennis Court Road
Cambridge CB2 1QW
(0223) 333666
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John Leith
>... Mind you, their definition of "meat" would have suited CMOT as well -
>it included ... all the bits that you couldn't sell in a butchers.
Have you seen what goes into sausages?
Iain McKerchar
jle...@dircon.co.uk "John Leith" writes:
>
> >... Mind you, their definition of "meat" would have suited CMOT as well -
> >it included ... all the bits that you couldn't sell in a butchers.
>
> Have you seen what goes into sausages?
Seen it? The carnivores amongst you have actually eaten it :-( Apart
from all the bits of a cow that you wouldn't want to mention, I seem to
remember that some butchers were accused of putting sawdust into their
sausages instead of bran. Still it was probably the most palatable part
anyway [ud]
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Frugal
>>... Mind you, their definition of "meat" would have suited CMOT as well -
>>it included ... all the bits that you couldn't sell in a butchers.
>Have you seen what goes into sausages?
Yes - Everytime I eat a sausage :O)
I heard somewhere that Pork sausages have to have more meat in them than
Beef, any truth to this rumour...
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Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes :
: In article <1995Jan4.1...@void.tdcnet.nl>
: peag...@void.tdcnet.nl writes:
: > : > You could stop a lot of that happening if you authorised a
paperback
: > republishing of the original story.
: Uh...why? The original ones are 'valuable' because they are, well,
: original -- the actual first edition.
In Australia you can (or at least, could when I lived there), buy franked
first day covers from the post office before, on, or after the relevant
first day. Similarly, I have seen adverts recently for things made of
"genuine artificial gold" and "real imitation leather". Television news
reports carry the description "Recorded live". Perhaps there would be
money in "guaranteed authentic fake first editions"?
And then there were those wonderful signs you used to see on London street
markets: "As advertised on Police 5"
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Simon Harrowing
In article <1995Jan11....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> C.D....@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
(Frugal) writes:
>I heard somewhere that Pork sausages have to have more meat in them than
>Beef, any truth to this rumour...
Yes, it's a little known fact that beef actually has only a trace amount of
meat in it. Therefore it is quite suitable for vegetarians, as long as you
don't use gravy.
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Dan Staines
Chaos) wrote:
>
> S I Langridge (S.I.La...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : Colm Buckley (cbuc...@tcd.ie) wrote:
> : : > == si...@harrowng.demon.co.uk (Simon Harrowing)
>
> : : > Is this the same Cambridge copyright library as mentioned in Stephen
> : : > Fry's 'The Liar'? If so, do they *really* have stacks and stacks of
> : : > pornography in the basement?
>
> : : The University Libraries at Cambridge, Oxford and Dublin have been
> : : Copyright libraries for Quite Some Time... other universities have them
> : : also, but IIRC not for as long a time...
>
> copyright libraries originally, with Cambridge/Oxford/Dublin being made
> the official ones at a later date...
Just thought I'd let you know - Cambridge University Library (ul.cam.ac.uk)
is a copyright library, but does not stock every book ever published - it
merely has a free option of every book published, but generally is fairly
selective and doesn't go for kiddies books like the Carpet People. Boo.
Graham Spicer
Graham Spicer
Jeremy Johnson
and burn them to stay warm of a night..
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D.J.S. Damerell
Jeremy Johnson <jd...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>That's Nowt. When I were a lad, we used to 'ave to catch swans off t'cam
>and burn them to stay warm of a night..
Arrr, but at least thou can run across surface of t'cam to catch them. [1]
[1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
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djs...@cus.cam.ac.uk "D.J.S. Damerell" writes:
> In article <jdj11-16019...@mystdemon.sucon.cam.ac.uk>,
> Jeremy Johnson <jd...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >That's Nowt. When I were a lad, we used to 'ave to catch swans off t'cam
> >and burn them to stay warm of a night..
>
> Arrr, but at least thou can run across surface of t'cam to catch them. [1]
Why bother? The ducks come to you.
> [1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
Except you sink in it. Which is colder.
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Vivek Dasmohapatra
>From: jd...@cam.ac.uk (Jeremy Johnson)
>Subject: Re: *I* Term starts (was *Marginally R* 1st Ed Carpet People)
>Date: 16 Jan 1995 09:39:57 GMT
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>From: djs...@cus.cam.ac.uk (D.J.S. Damerell)
>Subject: Re: *I* Term starts (was *Marginally R* 1st Ed Carpet People)
[sever]
>>That's Nowt. When I were a lad, we used to 'ave to catch swans off t'cam
>>and burn them to stay warm of a night..
[decapitate]
>Arrr, but at least thou can run across surface of t'cam to catch them. [1]
>[1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
I wouldn't say 'like' the ankh... I don't think it's nearly as, well,
viscous, but I'm pretty sure it IS corrosive. Not to mention the
contamination by Weil's (sp?) Disease, Cam fever (like W's disease only the
symptoms are you feel like you're coming down with a cold, and then you
die), and rats' urine.
Sometimes I wonder if we ought to tell the tourists we see idling down the
cam in a hired punt, trailing their hands or feet in the water...
Incidentally, how do the ducks and swans manage to survive? Are they members
of some sort of Avian Kamikazi (sp?) Squad or what?
Rocky Frisco
VD> I wouldn't say 'like' the ankh... I don't think it's nearly as,
VD> well, viscous, but I'm pretty sure it IS corrosive. Not to mention
VD> the contamination by Weil's (sp?) Disease, Cam fever (like W's
VD> disease only the symptoms are you feel like you're coming down with
VD> a cold, and then you die), and rats' urine.
VD> Sometimes I wonder if we ought to tell the tourists we see idling
VD> down the cam in a hired punt, trailing their hands or feet in the
VD> water...
This is, without question, the funniest couple of paragraphs I have read
in the last two weeks. May I paraphrase that in one of my stories or do
you wanna hang onto it?
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>In <vd10002.17...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> vd1...@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Vivek Dasmohapatra) writes:
>VD>>> VD> >[1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
>VD>Erm...excuse me... Only I'd prefer it if my initials didn't sort of go right
>VD>>on to the beginning of each line. It's sort of, well...
COK>...catching?
COK>Cian. <sorry I couldn't resist>
You were saying ?
:-) :-) :-) :-)
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VD>>> VD> >[1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
VD>Erm...excuse me... Only I'd prefer it if my initials didn't sort of go right
VD>>on to the beginning of each line. It's sort of, well...
...catching?
Cian. <sorry I couldn't resist>
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>> VD> >[1] the Cam is very like the Ankh.
Erm...excuse me... Only I'd prefer it if my initials didn't sort of go right
on to the beginning of each line. It's sort of, well...
Never Mind.
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>
Just for the second time then? :-)
> (For those unfamiliar with the Cambridge/Romsey marches, the Bosphorus
> is a kebab shop. It has even attracted the custom of vegetarian afpers)
>
Where else can you get baclava at 3am in Cambridge when you've got
the raging munchies?
> "Not very addled" Alan Bellingham
Jon S Green
Dan Staines
wrote:
Terrific place for a spot of food poisoning, and directly between my house
and Clare College, for those late-night MCR sessions...
From: Dan Staines
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Cambridge
Tennis Court Road
Cambridge CB2 1QW
Tel: (0223) 333666
e-mail: d...@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk
http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~dms/