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Laura F Spira

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Feb 21, 2003, 5:56:11 PM2/21/03
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Boinkers (5) met today at what Garry calls the Walrus Collection. Fran
was early and had inspected the Canalettos so, culture having been dealt
with on behalf of all, Garry led us to a caff where sandwiches with
varied fillings were consumed.

Tootsie's health was drunk in water, fruit juice and beer.

Topics discussed included blood (Graeme had just donated a whole armful
but generously offered Garry the other armful), jokes about internal
auditors (there aren't any), the possibility of confusing Lord Nelson
with Nelson Mandela when passing through Trafalgar Square and the reason
why Sherlock Holmes became so popular. Mention was also made of Des
O'Connor's understudy, Tom Jones, Lulu, chatrooms, baldness and
wrinkles.

Here are some questions to which I learned the answers:

1. Which Nobel Laureate was also a cricketer?
2. Which detective story writer played in goal for Portsmouth?
3. Which aue-er has had Botox treatment? And why?

Garry and Graeme left to tinker with the FAQ, Fran sought retail therapy
and the rest of us had to return to important work.

--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

Jacqui

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:26:52 PM2/21/03
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Laura F Spira wibbled:

> Boinkers (5) met today at what Garry calls the Walrus Collection.
> Fran was early and had inspected the Canalettos so, culture having
> been dealt with on behalf of all, Garry led us to a caff where
> sandwiches with varied fillings were consumed.

Sorry I couldn't be there - appointments with estate agents and
midwives (in that order).

> Here are some questions to which I learned the answers:
>
> 1. Which Nobel Laureate was also a cricketer?

Sam Beckett, innit. He's in Wisden.

Jac

Robert Lieblich

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:37:02 PM2/21/03
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Laura F Spira wrote:

[ ... ]

> Here are some questions to which I learned the answers:
>
> 1. Which Nobel Laureate was also a cricketer?
> 2. Which detective story writer played in goal for Portsmouth?
> 3. Which aue-er has had Botox treatment? And why?

Ahem!



> Garry and Graeme left to tinker with the FAQ, Fran sought retail therapy
> and the rest of us had to return to important work.

Sorry to have missed it. Where shall I mail my armful of blood?

--
Bob Lieblich
Ahem!

PeterD

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:29:25 AM2/22/03
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Jacqui <sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I couldn't be there - appointments with [snip]
> midwives.

Ooh. Is there an impending?

--
Pd
An impending(?) father

Graeme Thomas

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:56:38 PM2/21/03
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In article <3E56AE8B...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com>, Laura F Spira
<la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> writes

>Topics discussed included blood (Graeme had just donated a whole armful
>but generously offered Garry the other armful),

No, no, no! According to the discussion here on AUE, I had just doned
an armful.

--
Graeme Thomas

Padraig Breathnach

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:03:42 AM2/22/03
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Graeme Thomas <gra...@graemet.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Well done, sir!

PB

Jacqui

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Feb 22, 2003, 12:32:44 PM2/22/03
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PeterD wibbled:

> Jacqui wrote:
>
>> Sorry I couldn't be there - appointments with [snip]
>> midwives.
>
> Ooh. Is there an impending?

July. And yours?

Jac

Garry J. Vass

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Feb 22, 2003, 4:12:40 PM2/22/03
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"Laura F Spira" <la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote in message
news:3E56AE8B...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com...

>
> Topics discussed included blood (Graeme had just donated a whole armful
> but generously offered Garry the other armful), jokes about internal
> auditors (there aren't any), the possibility of confusing Lord Nelson
> with Nelson Mandela when passing through Trafalgar Square and the reason
> why Sherlock Holmes became so popular. Mention was also made of Des
> O'Connor's understudy, Tom Jones, Lulu, chatrooms, baldness and
> wrinkles.
>

Just as a side-note with respect to the "chatrooms" piece, something I
forgot to discuss at the boink, but highly on-topic is the erroneous notion
shared by many people that "thee", "thy", and "thou" are archaic.

Sometimes in the "English usage and grammar" chatroom, the use of a
translator becomes necessary. These programs, despite their many failings,
are quite useful in a pinch. One should be aware, however, that the two
questions:

1. Would you provide context for your question?
2. Would thee provide context for thy question?

will often translate with different results (depending upon the quality of
the software). With some sophisticated translators, modal verbs and
compound verbs are inflected correctly in the target language according to
the pronoun used in the source language.

Sometimes [1] is appropriate; sometimes [2] is appropriate. Hence, "thee",
"thy", and "thou" are still useful, at least in terms of internet chatrooms.

With respect to the *other* thing I forget to mention, I have a small photo
gallery about London's new congestion charging scheme. It's at
http://www.londonelegance.com/cc

Kind regards,
GJV


PS - Internal auditor joke:
Two internal auditors were sitting next to each other on a plane. The first
one asks the second, "Are you going to eat your peanuts?". The second says,
"No. Would you like to have them?" The first one replies, "Good heavens,
no, I was merely curious." The second one says, "If you should change your
mind, just say the word."


Simon R. Hughes

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:39:57 PM2/22/03
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Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:

> 2. Would thee provide context for thy question?

2: "Wouldst thee [...] ?".

But I'm not sure that the syntax would appear like that in the early
modern period (books packed away -- can't check).
--
Simon R. Hughes
"I often think there should exist a special typographical
sign for a smile -- some sort of concave mark, a supine
round bracket" -- Vladimir Nabokov, _Strong Opinions_.

Padraig Breathnach

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Feb 22, 2003, 8:12:21 PM2/22/03
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Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:

>Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:
>
>> 2. Would thee provide context for thy question?
>
>2: "Wouldst thee [...] ?".
>
>But I'm not sure that the syntax would appear like that in the early
>modern period (books packed away -- can't check).

I would say "wouldst thou" if I would use "wouldst".

PB

Simon R. Hughes

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Feb 23, 2003, 8:35:47 AM2/23/03
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Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

It sounded better to my ear, too, but it was late, and I managed to
convince myself that "thee" was the nominative.

It's a good job I'm not a native speaker.

Don Aitken

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:45:09 AM2/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:35:47 +0100, Simon R. Hughes
<shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:

>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
>> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
>>
>> >Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:
>> >
>> >> 2. Would thee provide context for thy question?
>> >
>> >2: "Wouldst thee [...] ?".
>> >
>> >But I'm not sure that the syntax would appear like that in the early
>> >modern period (books packed away -- can't check).
>>
>> I would say "wouldst thou" if I would use "wouldst".
>
>It sounded better to my ear, too, but it was late, and I managed to
>convince myself that "thee" was the nominative.
>
>It's a good job I'm not a native speaker.

It was, for 19th century Quakers at least, and their usage is no more
(or less) obsolete than any other.

--
Don Aitken

M. J. Powell

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:16:29 AM2/23/03
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In message <MPG.18c2c7948...@news.online.no>, Simon R. Hughes
<shu...@tromso.online.no> writes

>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
>> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
>>
>> >Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:
>> >
>> >> 2. Would thee provide context for thy question?
>> >
>> >2: "Wouldst thee [...] ?".
>> >
>> >But I'm not sure that the syntax would appear like that in the early
>> >modern period (books packed away -- can't check).
>>
>> I would say "wouldst thou" if I would use "wouldst".
>
>It sounded better to my ear, too, but it was late, and I managed to
>convince myself that "thee" was the nominative.
>
>It's a good job I'm not a native speaker.

The bloke next to me in the lab at Stoke-on-Trent college said:
'Would'st thou lend me thy slide-rule?'
I thought he was extracting the Michael but many locals spoke that way.
(In '49, anyway)

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Graeme Thomas

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Feb 25, 2003, 5:43:32 AM2/25/03
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In article <me2iwPC2...@graemet.demon.co.uk>, Graeme Thomas
<gra...@graemet.demon.co.uk> writes

For some reason the process has left me with a nasty-looking, albeit
completely painless, bruise. Were I American I would sue.

--
Graeme Thomas

sage

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Feb 25, 2003, 4:54:19 PM2/25/03
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M. J. Powell <mi...@pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mDZipFGd...@pickmere.demon.co.uk...

> The bloke next to me in the lab at Stoke-on-Trent college said:
> 'Would'st thou lend me thy slide-rule?'
> I thought he was extracting the Michael but many locals spoke that way.
> (In '49, anyway)
>
> Mike
> --
> M.J.Powell

He probably still would. They probably still do. (Haven't been back for a
while. Nice folks in The Potteries.)

Cheers, Sage


M. J. Powell

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Feb 25, 2003, 5:44:58 PM2/25/03
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In message <JwR6a.473$945....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, sage <sa...@netcom.ca>
writes

Agreed. Though it would have been nice to have seen some of them through
the smoke...

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

david56

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Feb 25, 2003, 6:40:49 PM2/25/03
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This is leakage of blood beneath the skin. I doned plasma for about 10
years - this involves the leaking of blood into a machine which spins it
and returns the red blood cells back up the same tube. It takes about
four or five cycles and 40 minutes or so. Occasionally some blood would
leak out around the catheter. Once I had a purple, yellow and red
bruise up and down about half of my arm; the kindly doctor put a wet
bandage on it. I asked what good this did - she admitted that although
it might do some good it was essentially a "distraction bandage" to take
my mind off the fact that it looked awful.

--
David
I say what it occurs to me to say.
=====
The address is valid today, but I will change it to keep ahead of the
spammers.

Larry Phillips

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Feb 26, 2003, 2:46:24 AM2/26/03
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:40:49 +0000, david56
<bass.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>This is leakage of blood beneath the skin. I doned plasma for about 10
>years - this involves the leaking of blood into a machine which spins it
>and returns the red blood cells back up the same tube.

May I take this opportunity to thank you? My wife's life was saved via
plasmapheresis, and platelet transfusions, using donated plasma and
platelets, of course. Ever since then, I have been resgistered as a
cell-separator donor for any blood products as well as marrow. They
have called me for platelets, mostly.

Larry
---
There are 10 kinds of people --
those who understand binary, and those who don't.
-- Uncle Phil

david56

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Feb 26, 2003, 4:45:06 AM2/26/03
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Larry Phillips wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:40:49 +0000, david56
> <bass.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>This is leakage of blood beneath the skin. I doned plasma for about 10
>>years - this involves the leaking of blood into a machine which spins it
>>and returns the red blood cells back up the same tube.
>
> May I take this opportunity to thank you? My wife's life was saved via
> plasmapheresis, and platelet transfusions, using donated plasma and
> platelets, of course. Ever since then, I have been resgistered as a
> cell-separator donor for any blood products as well as marrow. They
> have called me for platelets, mostly.

You and your wife are very welcome. It's good to hear that all that
leaking into bags has some real effects - it's all a bit clinical and
remote from the benefits while you are giving.

Graeme Thomas

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Feb 26, 2003, 12:41:59 PM2/26/03
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In article <3E5BFF01...@ntlworld.com>, david56
<bass.b...@ntlworld.com> writes

>> For some reason the process has left me with a nasty-looking, albeit
>> completely painless, bruise. Were I American I would sue.
>
>This is leakage of blood beneath the skin.

Yes, I know. I have been doning blood for about 27 years now, and
occasionally such bruises have appeared.

>Once I had a purple, yellow and red
>bruise up and down about half of my arm; the kindly doctor put a wet
>bandage on it. I asked what good this did - she admitted that although
>it might do some good it was essentially a "distraction bandage" to take
>my mind off the fact that it looked awful.

I had that happen to me once! I wonder if they teach distraction
bandage techniques in medical school?

--
Graeme Thomas

Dena Jo

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Mar 1, 2003, 2:20:55 AM3/1/03
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Larry Phillips <sa...@non.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:40:49 +0000, david56
> <bass.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>This is leakage of blood beneath the skin. I doned plasma for about 10
>>years - this involves the leaking of blood into a machine which spins it
>>and returns the red blood cells back up the same tube.
>
> May I take this opportunity to thank you?

That's very sweet.

--
Dena Jo

Linz

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Mar 3, 2003, 9:44:48 AM3/3/03
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"Graeme Thomas" <gra...@graemet.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:+qwkdiDn...@graemet.demon.co.uk...

> In article <3E5BFF01...@ntlworld.com>, david56
> <bass.b...@ntlworld.com> writes

> >Once I had a purple, yellow and red


> >bruise up and down about half of my arm; the kindly doctor put a wet
> >bandage on it. I asked what good this did - she admitted that although
> >it might do some good it was essentially a "distraction bandage" to take
> >my mind off the fact that it looked awful.
>
> I had that happen to me once! I wonder if they teach distraction
> bandage techniques in medical school?

In medical school and nursing college, for what it's worth.


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