Problem with .forward

[Tony Lawrence]

5.04, the usual patches. Running fetchmail and MMDF on a
dial up connection triggered by a cron job which establishes
a ppp connection, runs fetchmail to grab a multidrop mailbox
and distribute it, runs deliver, and goes away until next
time. Works fine until:

Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
.forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
other words, the ISP sees that as spam.

I'm not clear on what, if anything, I can do about that.

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[Mike Kenyon]

Tony Lawrence wrote:
> Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
> to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
> .forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
> other words, the ISP sees that as spam.

Is MMDF setup to *always* use a mail relay at the ISP for sending mail into
the Internet? Is it a condition of use that you *must* use said relay? Or can
you get MMDF to send worldnet addresses directly to worldnet?
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Mike Kenyon <mke...@promtek.com> Software Engineer for Promtek Ltd

[Tony Lawrence]

Mike Kenyon wrote:
>
> Tony Lawrence wrote:
> > Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
> > to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
> > .forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
> > other words, the ISP sees that as spam.
>
> Is MMDF setup to *always* use a mail relay at the ISP for sending mail into
> the Internet? Is it a condition of use that you *must* use said relay? Or can
> you get MMDF to send worldnet addresses directly to worldnet?

Not easily. The only way I know to do that is to tell MMDF
to use DNS for mail. That would work fine for deliver, but
unfortunately, it has the side effect of going out and
checking when the mail is originally sent. As this is a
dialup connection, there's no way to get to a DNS server
when the connection isn't up- so if a PC user tried to send
mail, MMDF wants to look it up, and can't, so it rejects it.

[Joe Chasan]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:45:08AM +0000, Tony Lawrence wrote:
> 5.04, the usual patches. Running fetchmail and MMDF on a
> dial up connection triggered by a cron job which establishes
> a ppp connection, runs fetchmail to grab a multidrop mailbox
> and distribute it, runs deliver, and goes away until next
> time. Works fine until:
>

> Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
> to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
> .forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
> other words, the ISP sees that as spam.
>

> I'm not clear on what, if anything, I can do about that.

not that i've tried, but can you forward it through fetchmail instead
of mmdf, maybe with something like username XYZ is b...@worldnet.att.net,
and again maybe with/without the norewrite for address headers?

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[Tom Parsons]

Tony Lawrence enscribed:

| 5.04, the usual patches. Running fetchmail and MMDF on a
| dial up connection triggered by a cron job which establishes
| a ppp connection, runs fetchmail to grab a multidrop mailbox
| and distribute it, runs deliver, and goes away until next
| time. Works fine until:
|
| Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
| to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
| .forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
| other words, the ISP sees that as spam.
|
| I'm not clear on what, if anything, I can do about that.

Is the delay channel properly configured and working? Mail should
wait there until the nameserver becomes available.

Instead of a .forward, you could use a MMDF alias file entry.
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[Tony Lawrence]

Tom Parsons wrote:
>
> Tony Lawrence enscribed:
> | 5.04, the usual patches. Running fetchmail and MMDF on a
> | dial up connection triggered by a cron job which establishes
> | a ppp connection, runs fetchmail to grab a multidrop mailbox
> | and distribute it, runs deliver, and goes away until next
> | time. Works fine until:
> |
> | Somebody new joins the company. Wants their mail forwarded
> | to their worldnet address. So I put that address in their
> | .forward, but the ISP rejects it, saying "sorry, no UCE" -in
> | other words, the ISP sees that as spam.
> |
> | I'm not clear on what, if anything, I can do about that.
>
> Is the delay channel properly configured and working? Mail should
> wait there until the nameserver becomes available.

The delay channel is configured, but it didn't seem to work
that way- it rejected the PC's when they tried to send mail.

>
> Instead of a .forward, you could use a MMDF alias file entry.

I had tried that earlier but it didn't work- possibly for
some other reason (like mistyping the address)- I'll try it
again..