Where to get a honorary doctorate?
John Bear, Ph.D.
The least-expensive honorary doctorate about which I have certain
knowledge would have cost the buyer a $50,000 "donation." This from a
regionally accredited and highly respectable university in California.
(I was present at the 'negotiations.' I say "would have" because the
potential buyer decided to reject the offer, since it had some strings
attached, one of which being that the award would be presented privately
so he would not be 'on stage' at the same time as, and potentially
embarrass, Nancy Reagan.) (There are times when I can hardly wait for
the posthumous edition of my book to come out, where I get to tell all
these stories. But I like to think that is at least 30 years away.)
When Spy Magazine did a "sting" operation a couple of years ago, to see
if various universities accredited by the same unrecognized accreditor
would sell them degrees, all of them agreed, at prices (as I recall)
between $5,000 and $10,000. This was reported in an article in their
February 1995 issue.
John Bear, Ph.D. (Michigan State University, 1966)
http://www.degree.net
DR_WETSCH
fallang...@hotmail.com (Andreas Guehl) writes: > Well, I'll be more frank now. This is my question:
> Imagine someone left university in Germany without any degree (we
> don't have BAs here), he is in the midst of his thirties and doesn't
> plan a career at the university or in the academic field, of course.
> Instead he wants a job at an advertising agency, for example, where
> they hesitate to take him because he was unemployed for a while and
> doesn't have any paper qualification. Now he is willing to pay for a
> honorary doctorate and can even show some work, let's say a
> translation e.g., of some hundreds of pages, and he is the first one
> to have done it. That explains what he has done in the past and
> instead of the MA exams. It may really help him getting a job by
> convincing the boss of his activity. Now, which university would give
> him the honorary doctorate easily AND cheap (how much?) AND be
> accepted/accredited? Please don't suggest things like churches, they
> look ridiculous in Germany. Something that sounds good, please,
> anywhere in the world. Something that won't be ridiculous.
>
Why don't you pursue a U.S. accredited earned degree as a BA or BS.
What is the need for the doctorate to work for an advertising agency.
Foreign university credits can be evaluated in the U.S. and applied
towards a degree. Additional requirements can be completed through
indepdnent study, exams (if they are accesible to you), and additional
coursework. From reading the above it looks like you have are looking
for that paper credential. I am not sure how an honorary doctorate
would help in this case?
John R. Wetsch, Ph.D.
Andreas Guehl
DR_WETSCH <DR_W...@Prodigy.Net> wrot
>Why don't you pursue a U.S. accredited earned degree as a BA or BS.
>What is the need for the doctorate to work for an advertising agency.
>Foreign university credits can be evaluated in the U.S. and applied
>towards a degree. Additional requirements can be completed through
>indepdnent study, exams (if they are accesible to you), and additional
>coursework. From reading the above it looks like you have are looking
>for that paper credential. I am not sure how an honorary doctorate
>would help in this case?
A BA to justify what was done in the meantime? My friend is already 35
years old, and a BA means almost nothing in Germany. Whereas a
honorary doctorate could somehow justify his private work within the
past years. That's all. He only wants to convince them that he is not
the lazy type.
Ian Johnston
Andreas Guehl (fallang...@hotmail.com) wrote:
: A BA to justify what was done in the meantime? My friend is already 35
: years old, and a BA means almost nothing in Germany. Whereas a
: honorary doctorate could somehow justify his private work within the
: past years. That's all. He only wants to convince them that he is not
: the lazy type.
Anyone who wants to buy a fake doctorate (an honorary doctorate is a
symbolic reward for real merit) is by definition "the lazy type". He might
as well print off a convincing certificate himself, because the slightest
investigation is going to turn up the real nature of the fake degree.
In this country it would probably lose him his job and get a criminal
prosecution for attempting to gain money by fraud.
Tell your "friend" not to be so bloody stupid.
Ian
Dan Satori
Farelston and Nova Colleges offer both earned and honorary doctorates for
about 500usd. Earned degrees are granted via research and life experience.
You can reach them at:
Farelston & Nova Colleges
PO Box 67004
Northland Village Post Office
Calgary, AB T2L 2L2
Canada
I would suggest that you purchase John Bear's book. There are many
unaccredited institutions with flexible programs. Keep in mind that
unaccredited awards never have the same recognition as accredited awards.
Sometimes it's immaterial. I work with many technicians who went to
non-degreed technical schools. Their skills are in high demand and they
are well paid. They don't have the time to go on for traditional degrees,
so non-traditional, unaccredited institutions offering credit for life
experience is acceptable for them since their employment will be based on
their work skills and not their academic experience.
Andreas Guehl <fallang...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<6aipkb$s2g$1...@grapool30.rz.uni-frankfurt.de>...
Andreas Guehl
"Dan Satori" <sato...@juno.com> wrote:
>Farelston and Nova Colleges offer both earned and honorary doctorates for
>about 500usd. Earned degrees are granted via research and life experience.
> You can reach them at:
> Farelston & Nova Colleges
> PO Box 67004
> Northland Village Post Office
> Calgary, AB T2L 2L2
> Canada
>I would suggest that you purchase John Bear's book.
I'll do, thanks, he was sending me comments already via email, I see
he is an expert in this.
About the above - it is no mill? Accredited or not? There is of course
work my friend can present, done by himself, a paper of some hundred
pages, the only thing is that he hasn't got any BA or MA and that he
doesn't want to attend any seminars or pass any exams. He was at the
university for about nine years. Would that be enough for a honorary
doctorate?
Ian Johnston
Andreas Guehl (fallang...@hotmail.com) wrote:
: "Dan Satori" <sato...@juno.com> wrote:
: >Farelston and Nova Colleges offer both earned and honorary doctorates for
: >about 500usd.
: About the above - it is no mill? Accredited or not?
Oh come on! If the pplace is willing to flog "doctorates" for 500 dollars
it obviously has nothing to do with academia.
: There is of course
: work my friend can present, done by himself, a paper of some hundred
: pages, the only thing is that he hasn't got any BA or MA and that he
: doesn't want to attend any seminars or pass any exams.
Your "friend" and every other student. Tough. Getting degrees means doing
work and passing exams.
: He was at the
: university for about nine years. Would that be enough for a honorary
: doctorate?
If it wasn't enough for him to graduate in the first place why on earth
should it merit a doctorate. Not that the dodgy outfit recommended will
care about any qualification more sophisticated than "does the cheque bounce".
What get's my goat is the assumption that the distance learning world is
the place to go for these crooked rip-offs. It demeans the whole sector.
Ian
Dan Satori
You need to contact the school for additional information. They will
evaluate your academic and work experience. Depending on your definition,
they are not a degree mill--you have to do more than send a check.
However, there are some people in this group who believe that every
unaccredited institution is a degree mill. You may want to wait until they
open their medical college next week. Then you can get your CMD (Doctor of
Canukian Medicine) <grin>
Andreas Guehl <fallang...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<6anvim$t7k$1...@grapool30.rz.uni-frankfurt.de>...
> "Dan Satori" <sato...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Farelston and Nova Colleges offer both earned and honorary doctorates
for
> >about 500usd. Earned degrees are granted via research and life
experience.
> > You can reach them at:
> > Farelston & Nova Colleges
> > PO Box 67004
> > Northland Village Post Office
> > Calgary, AB T2L 2L2
> > Canada
>
> >I would suggest that you purchase John Bear's book.
>
> I'll do, thanks, he was sending me comments already via email, I see
> he is an expert in this.
> About the above - it is no mill? Accredited or not? There is of course
> work my friend can present, done by himself, a paper of some hundred
> pages, the only thing is that he hasn't got any BA or MA and that he
> doesn't want to attend any seminars or pass any exams. He was at the
John Bear, Ph.D.
Ah, yes, Farelston & Nova College -- perhaps the world's only
educational institution without a telephone.
(I've just phoned information in the 403 area code, to see if this is
still the case, and it is)
No connection, of course, with the accredited Nova Southeastern
University (formerly Nova) or the unaccredited Faraston Theological
Seminary in Washington.
Andreas Guehl
engs...@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) wrote:
>Oh come on! If the pplace is willing to flog "doctorates" for 500 dollars
>it obviously has nothing to do with academia.
Well, I am new in this area. I imagined that at least in some third
world country even for an accredited institution 500 dollars could be
enough/ a lot of money. Anything about Cambodia e.g.?
>What get's my goat is the assumption that the distance learning world is
>the place to go for these crooked rip-offs. It demeans the whole sector.
Yes, of course. But right now our social welfare and pension system is
breaking down. Some people are just desperate to get a job. Which
means: they are willing to work. If they don't interfere with
academics, it should be okay.
DR_WETSCH
fallang...@hotmail.com (Andreas Guehl) writes: > DR_WETSCH <DR_W...@Prodigy.Net> wrot
>
>
> >Why don't you pursue a U.S. accredited earned degree as a BA or BS.
> >What is the need for the doctorate to work for an advertising agency.
> >Foreign university credits can be evaluated in the U.S. and applied
> >towards a degree. Additional requirements can be completed through
> >indepdnent study, exams (if they are accesible to you), and additional
> >coursework. From reading the above it looks like you have are looking
> >for that paper credential. I am not sure how an honorary doctorate
> >would help in this case?
>
> years old, and a BA means almost nothing in Germany. Whereas a
> honorary doctorate could somehow justify his private work within the
> past years. That's all. He only wants to convince them that he is not
> the lazy type.
>
programs at the bachelors level. I do not understand why the
bachelors degree means almost nothing in Germany. I have met German
students who have pursued American degrees and I would think that it
must mean something. It is the completion of a university education
usually with a major or concentration in a particular field.
John R. Wetsch, Ph.D.