Job - Wolfram Wants Rhapsody Programmer, from MACWAY 872
Jay Riley
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:17:29 -0400
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Subject: Job - Wolfram Wants Rhapsody Programmer
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This job announcement is from:
Colin Rose, <cr...@c2.telstra-mm.net.au>
Thought this job opening might be of interest:
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Macintosh Programmer
Would you like to be part of a cutting-edge technology that not only
demands the highest level of Macintosh programming expertise but also has
the potential to transition to programming and developing the next
generation of Macintosh systems supporting the Rhapsody platform? For the
past decade, Wolfram Research, makers of Mathematica, the world's only
fully integrated technical computing system, has been a state-of-the-art
Macintosh developer. We're looking for engineers with solid Macintosh
programming experience to join our development team. In addition to
strong Macintosh programming skills, knowledge of C or C++ is essential,
and experience with Windows 3.1, 95, and NT as well as with Unix is a
plus. We have immediate openings and offer top benefits and salaries in a
casually dynamic atmosphere.
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For more info, visit:
<http://www.wri.com/wolfram/opportunities/openings.html>
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Marco Scheurer
On 08/13/97, Nathan Urban wrote:
> [...]
> Mathematica was developed for NEXTSTEP originally
> [...]
Is that true!?
The NEXTSTEP "notebook" interface to Mathematica has been available
for quite some time but was Mathematica really developed on NeXT? I
thought the Mac was first.
Note that the NEXTSTEP interface was (is) so good that it was a factor
in having some scientists prefer NeXT computers to others. The best
available Mathematica interface bundled with the best available TeX
interface bundled with the best available development environment
bundled with a fine computer...
--
Marco Scheurer (ma...@sente.ch)
Sen:te
Holger Uhr
Nathan Urban wrote:
> =
> In article <33f1b...@epflnews.epfl.ch>, ma...@sente.ch (Marco Scheure=
r) wrote:
> =
> > The NEXTSTEP "notebook" interface to Mathematica has been available
> > for quite some time but was Mathematica really developed on NeXT? I
> > thought the Mac was first.
> =
> I'm not up on my history, but I'm fairly sure I read that it was develo=
ped
> for NEXTSTEP originally (or at least, the notebook interface was).
> (Anyone else know for sure?)
> =
> > Note that the NEXTSTEP interface was (is) so good that it was a facto=
r
> > in having some scientists prefer NeXT computers to others. The best
> > available Mathematica interface bundled with the best available TeX
> > interface bundled with the best available development environment
> > bundled with a fine computer...
> =
> Indeed. It was well suited for that market originally, except for the
> price..
I think I remember that the name "Mathematica" was invented by Steve
Jobs.
Does anyone know for sure?
Greetings,
Holger
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Thomas McCarthy
Holger Uhr wrote:
>
> I think I remember that the name "Mathematica" was invented by Steve
> Jobs.
>
> Does anyone know for sure?
This is correct. This appears in the Mathematica book that Wolfram
himself wrote.
> Greetings,
>
> Holger
>
> --
> | Holger Uhr
> | Universität-GH Paderborn Phone : +49 5251 60-6623
> | Fürstenallee 11 Fax : +49 5251 60-6619
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> | and follow its advice.
Tom
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Thomas McCarthy
t...@sumoweb.com
Nathan Urban
> Subject: Job - Wolfram Wants Rhapsody Programmer
> Would you like to be part of a cutting-edge technology that not only
> demands the highest level of Macintosh programming expertise but also has
> the potential to transition to programming and developing the next
> generation of Macintosh systems supporting the Rhapsody platform? For the
> past decade, Wolfram Research, makers of Mathematica, the world's only
> fully integrated technical computing system, has been a state-of-the-art
> Macintosh developer. We're looking for engineers with solid Macintosh
> programming experience to join our development team.
Great news! (You'd think, however, that they'd be looking for a NEXTSTEP
programmer, since the programming model of Rhapsody is far closer
to NEXTSTEP than MacOS.. in fact, they _have_ NEXTSTEP programmers,
Mathematica was developed for NEXTSTEP originally and they still have
it available. I find this puzzling.)
Nathan Urban
> On 08/13/97, Nathan Urban wrote:
> > [...]
> > Mathematica was developed for NEXTSTEP originally
> > [...]
> Is that true!?
> The NEXTSTEP "notebook" interface to Mathematica has been available
> for quite some time but was Mathematica really developed on NeXT? I
> thought the Mac was first.
I'm not up on my history, but I'm fairly sure I read that it was developed
for NEXTSTEP originally (or at least, the notebook interface was).
(Anyone else know for sure?)
> Note that the NEXTSTEP interface was (is) so good that it was a factor
> in having some scientists prefer NeXT computers to others. The best
> available Mathematica interface bundled with the best available TeX
> interface bundled with the best available development environment
> bundled with a fine computer...
Indeed. It was well suited for that market originally, except for the
price..
jdel...@mailnet.rdc.cl
>On 08/13/97, Nathan Urban wrote:
>> [...]
>> Mathematica was developed for NEXTSTEP originally
>> [...]
>
>Is that true!?
>
I am 99% certain that it is true. Also, the name "Mathematica" was
proposed by Steve Jobs.
--
Javier Delgado
jdel...@mailnet.rdc.cl
Chris Douty
In article <5ssd3j$ef7$1...@sps1.phys.vt.edu>, Nathan Urban <nur...@vt.edu> wrote:
>In article <33f1b...@epflnews.epfl.ch>, ma...@sente.ch (Marco Scheurer) wrote:
>
>> On 08/13/97, Nathan Urban wrote:
>
>> > [...]
>> > Mathematica was developed for NEXTSTEP originally
>> > [...]
>
>> Is that true!?
>
>> for quite some time but was Mathematica really developed on NeXT? I
>> thought the Mac was first.
>
>I'm not up on my history, but I'm fairly sure I read that it was developed
>for NEXTSTEP originally (or at least, the notebook interface was).
>(Anyone else know for sure?)
Not for sure, but I be pretty surprised if the Mathematica kernel was
developed for NeXT. I AM pretty sure that the notebook interface
appeared on NeXT long before any other platform.
Ah. I am no longer surprised at historians arguing over what really
happened. I am more surprised that they agree at all. Of course that's
why it is called "His Story."
-Chris
--
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cdo...@netcom.com
"Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated
according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic
aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
Marco Scheurer
I'm not sure it is an advantage over historians looking at the
pre-Internet history, but we have piles of information to look at. So
I went to www.wolfram.com and I found some articles about the
beginnings of Mathematica. Some nice reminders of the past, such as:
"It is a sumo wrestler of a program, demanding at least two
megabytes of Macintosh memory to run minimally, and requiring at
least a 68020 and 4MB to putter along at an acceptable rare"
(http://www.wolfram.com/s.wolfram/about-mathematica/89-macworld/)
About our question, the same article says:
"Only the Mac edition of Mathematica offers a user-friendly front
end to the computational kernel standard to all versions. Only the
Macintosh version allows users to create "notebooks" that blend
text, graphics, and computations in freeform, to let imagination
race as quickly as the calculations Mathematica produces.
Yet Apple seems to have lost the initiative on this program. Despite
the fact that it is already a strong Macintosh seller and has
garnered a cult of devotees, Mathematica is destined to be
identified strongly not with the Mac but with the NeXT computer.
Early on, Steve Jobs divined the importance of this program, made a
connection with Wolfram, and even gave the program its name. When
Mathematica was introduced, Jobs was on the podium at the press
conference, getting the lion's share of attention. And when the NeXT
machine was unveiled, Jobs confirmed that a copy of Mathematica
would come bundled with each computer. And Jobs got the glory,
despite the fact that the Mac version of Mathematica was already
shipping--but with only tepid support from Apple."
ow...@nospampdnt.com
In article <33F1CC...@uni-paderborn.de>, Holger Uhr
<hu...@uni-paderborn.de> wrote:
>Nathan Urban wrote:
>>
>> In article <33f1b...@epflnews.epfl.ch>, ma...@sente.ch (Marco
Scheurer) wrote:
>>
>> > The NEXTSTEP "notebook" interface to Mathematica has been available
>> > for quite some time but was Mathematica really developed on NeXT? I
>> > thought the Mac was first.
>>
>> I'm not up on my history, but I'm fairly sure I read that it was developed
>> for NEXTSTEP originally (or at least, the notebook interface was).
>> (Anyone else know for sure?)
>>
>> > Note that the NEXTSTEP interface was (is) so good that it was a factor
>> > in having some scientists prefer NeXT computers to others. The best
>> > available Mathematica interface bundled with the best available TeX
>> > interface bundled with the best available development environment
>> > bundled with a fine computer...
>>
>> Indeed. It was well suited for that market originally, except for the
>> price..
Mathematica was first developed on Macintoshes and later ported over to
NeXTSTEP and the other OS's it currently runs on. I knows this from first
hand knowledge, Mathematica is based here in Champaign, Illinois and is
used extensively by the University of Illinois Math department. I attended
the U of I while Mathematica was being developed and was first
commericially available. The U of I had an extensive number of NeXT black
hardware but Mathematica was only available on the Mac's.
Scott Johnson