I have changed my mind
WA8ULX
let the CBplussers have it. How great it will be to have the CBplussers alloyed
on HF and cant talk to anyone. Maybe that was the FCC idea all along, give the
No-Coders HF, and intern with BPL here, they cant talk to anyone. GREAT IDEA..
JJ
WA8ULX wrote in message <20030926211445...@mb-m22.aol.com>...
Just how does one "alloy" the cbplussers on HF? Is there some kind of
chemical process for that?
shephed
"WA8ULX" <wa8...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030926211445...@mb-m22.aol.com...
ARRL Bible, Book of Morse, Chapter 1, Verse 1
Don't worry about it, for it is writter;
And behold, for in the sky I saw a pale rider sat upon a pale horse. The
horse'e name is Codefree, and the rider's name is Capt. Carl.
And it will come to pass that Capt. Carl shall strik down the demon that is
BPL just as had done to the Godless Know-Coders.
As ye shall spend the rest of thy days in peace, without QRM or Morse Code.
WA8ULX
>Don't worry about it, for it is writter;
>And behold, for in the sky I saw a pale rider sat upon a pale horse. The
>horse'e name is Codefree, and the rider's name is Capt. Carl.
>
>And it will come to pass that Capt. Carl shall strik down the demon that is
>BPL just as had done to the Godless Know-Coders.
>
>As ye shall spend the rest of thy days in peace, without QRM or Morse Code.
So true, if Karl the nut is so great, he better hurry up and get busy on
striking down BPL.
It makes you wonder if the FCC in there plan to put BPL in place, saw Karl as
someone they could use to take the attention off of BPL and put it on CW.
shephed
Capt. Carl is just a sock-puppet for the broadband cartel. Now what will all
the "engineers" do when they can't hear shit on HF?
This is too funny.....
WA8ULX
>Capt. Carl is just a sock-puppet for the broadband cartel. Now what will all
>the "engineers" do when they can't hear shit on HF?
>
>This is too funny.....
I think its very funny, I can see it now, Captain Karl and his fruitcakes
finally get HF Phone, then find out they cant talk to anyone unless they use
CW.
Carl R. Stevenson
"shephed" <smo...@twist1up.com> wrote in message
news:8Amdb.81873$xx4.8...@twister.neo.rr.com...
Read "It Seems to Us" (Dave Sumner's editorial) in Oct. QST ...
Read my comments on BPL, either on the FCC ECFS or at
my personal web page at http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c.
Ask Ed Hare if I've been supporting him in the battle against BPL.
Also, I will be lobbying FCC OET and the Commissioners in the
coming weeks against BPL ... and I've been out in the Emmaus, PA
BPL "pilot" area with local reporters SHOWING them just how bad
BPL really is (after showing them what S0-S9 signals sound like on
a quiet band away from the BPL area so that when they see/hear the
"wall to wall" S9+ "hash" from BPL they understand just how bad
it really is.
So don't give me this "sock-puppet for the broadband cartel" crap.
Carl - wk3c
Carl R. Stevenson
And how do you expect CW to get through S9+ noise that's uniform
across all of the HF bands?
Bruce ... normally I simply ignore you, but it is time to tell you
directly that you are a total idiot.
If I gave you an hundred dollars cash and took you to a "rent/buy a clue
store" where clues were 5 cents each, you still wouldn't be able to get a
clue,
so why don't you just go back to CB and stop being such a world-class
AH amongst hams?
Carl - wk3c
WA8ULX
>coming weeks against BPL ... and I've been out in the Emmaus, PA
>BPL "pilot" area with local reporters SHOWING them just how bad
>BPL really is (after showing them what S0-S9 signals sound like on
>a quiet band away from the BPL area so that when they see/hear the
>"wall to wall" S9+ "hash" from BPL they understand just how bad
>it really is.
>
>So don't give me this "sock-puppet for the broadband cartel" crap.
>
>Carl - wk3c
>
Well there it is folks, Karl the Nut is going to save Ham Radio. Just think
Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place. Lets all
bow to Karl the Nut for saving Ham Radio.
WA8ULX
>across all of the HF bands?
I dont, and dont care.
>Bruce ... normally I simply ignore you, but it is time to tell you
>directly that you are a total idiot.
>
Karl do you think I, or anyone except your LOONEY followers care what you say.
Get real Karl, you are a Fruit Cake
>so why don't you just go back to CB and stop being such a world-class
Oh Im already there, with you and all your CB Buddies, who now Claim to be REAL
HAMS, but we all know there just WELFARE HAMS, better know as CBplussers.
JJ
WA8ULX wrote in message >
>Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place. Lets
all
>bow to Karl the Nut for saving Ham Radio.
You mean "in their" as in "in their place" instead of "there" as in put it
over "there". Nothing like a third grade education.
WA8ULX
>over "there". Nothing like a third grade education.
>
Its sure good to know your good for something other than Ham Radio.
N2EY
(WA8ULX) writes:
>>Also, I will be lobbying FCC OET and the Commissioners in the
>>coming weeks against BPL ... and I've been out in the Emmaus, PA
>>BPL "pilot" area with local reporters SHOWING them just how bad
>>BPL really is (after showing them what S0-S9 signals sound like on
>>a quiet band away from the BPL area so that when they see/hear the
>>"wall to wall" S9+ "hash" from BPL they understand just how bad
>>it really is.
>>
>>So don't give me this "sock-puppet for the broadband cartel" crap.
>>
>>Carl - wk3c
>>
>
> Well there it is folks, Karl the Nut is going to save Ham Radio.
Did you read his comments to the FCC? I did. Lots of good, sound, rational
stuff against BPL. Including actual firsthand accounts of the noise.
Hardly the work of a "nut", I'd say.
>Just think
>Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place.
Not by himself. But his stuff will surely help.
I filed comments against BPL, Carl filed comments, ARRL filed comments, lots of
folks filed comments - did you file comments, Bruce?
WA8ULX
>
No I dont care
Carl R. Stevenson
"N2EY" <n2...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030928081040...@mb-m24.aol.com...
> In article <20030927204249...@mb-m11.aol.com>, wa8...@aol.com
> (WA8ULX) writes:
>
> >>Also, I will be lobbying FCC OET and the Commissioners in the
> >>coming weeks against BPL ... and I've been out in the Emmaus, PA
> >>BPL "pilot" area with local reporters SHOWING them just how bad
> >>BPL really is (after showing them what S0-S9 signals sound like on
> >>a quiet band away from the BPL area so that when they see/hear the
> >>"wall to wall" S9+ "hash" from BPL they understand just how bad
> >>it really is.
> >>
> >>So don't give me this "sock-puppet for the broadband cartel" crap.
> >>
> >>Carl - wk3c
> >>
> >
> > Well there it is folks, Karl the Nut is going to save Ham Radio.
>
> Did you read his comments to the FCC? I did. Lots of good, sound, rational
> stuff against BPL. Including actual firsthand accounts of the noise.
>
> Hardly the work of a "nut", I'd say.
Thanks Jim ... while we continue to disagree on the code/nocode
issue, your sense of fairness in this unrelated matter is appreciated.
> >Just think
> >Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place.
>
> Not by himself. But his stuff will surely help.
>
> I filed comments against BPL, Carl filed comments, ARRL filed comments,
lots of
> folks filed comments - did you file comments, Bruce?
I can hardly wait to hear Bruce's excuse ... on the other hand, the way
he comes across, we'd be better off if the FCC never, ever, heard from
him.
Carl - wk3c
WA8ULX
>he comes across, we'd be better off if the FCC never, ever, heard from
>him.
>
>Carl - wk3c
>
We you say we, I hope you are referring to your CBplusser Buddies, because you
sure dont speak for REAL HAMS.
N2EY
(WA8ULX) writes:
On the issue of BPL, Carl sure does speak for me. I agree with everyhting he
wrote in his comments on BPL. Does that mean I'm not a "real ham", Bruce?
N2EY
<wk3...@wk3c.com> writes:
>"N2EY" <n2...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20030928081040...@mb-m24.aol.com...
>> In article <20030927204249...@mb-m11.aol.com>, wa8...@aol.com
>> (WA8ULX) writes:
>>
>> >>Also, I will be lobbying FCC OET and the Commissioners in the
>> >>coming weeks against BPL ... and I've been out in the Emmaus, PA
>> >>BPL "pilot" area with local reporters SHOWING them just how bad
>> >>BPL really is (after showing them what S0-S9 signals sound like on
>> >>a quiet band away from the BPL area so that when they see/hear the
>> >>"wall to wall" S9+ "hash" from BPL they understand just how bad
>> >>it really is.
>> >>
>> >>So don't give me this "sock-puppet for the broadband cartel" crap.
>> >>
>> >>Carl - wk3c
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well there it is folks, Karl the Nut is going to save Ham Radio.
>>
>> Did you read his comments to the FCC? I did. Lots of good, sound, rational
>> stuff against BPL. Including actual firsthand accounts of the noise.
>>
>> Hardly the work of a "nut", I'd say.
And if those comments and firsthand observations are the work of a "nut", then
we need lots more "nuts"....
>
>Thanks Jim ... while we continue to disagree on the code/nocode
>issue, your sense of fairness in this unrelated matter is appreciated.
No thanks necessary, Carl, you did a very good thing. I hope it has some
effect.
The code *test* debate pales in insignificance besides the threat of widespread
implementation of BPL. What good is any license or test for same if the bands
are so full of digital noise that they are mostly useless?
Also, having been without electricity for over 38 hours in the wake of
Hurricane Isabel, it seems to me that the electric energy utilities need to
focus more on their core business of providing juice and not further complicate
the operation and maintenance of their distribution systems by trying to use
them as a "broadband" data network.
(Hurricane Isabel was hardly a hurricane by the time it got here [Radnor
Township] and damage other than electrical outages was very minimal. The
electrical outages, however, were widespread and longlived.)
>
>> >Just think
>> >Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place.
>>
>> Not by himself. But his stuff will surely help.
>>
>> I filed comments against BPL, Carl filed comments, ARRL filed comments,
>> lots of folks filed comments - did you file comments, Bruce?
>
>I can hardly wait to hear Bruce's excuse ...
Don't hold yer breath, he's too full of nonsense to actually do anything
serious like comment on BPL. But don't be too hard on Bruce, Carl - according
to qrz.com, he's 305 years old.
>on the other hand, the way
>he comes across, we'd be better off if the FCC never, ever, heard from
>him.
AGREED! (shouting intentional)
The BPL battle is only beginning. Given Com, Abernathy's comments, the whole
thing is obviously being driven more by misguided business interests and
technically-ignorant investment than by sound engineering principles.
While we're on the subject, check out this bit of info:
"regarding the current BPL discussions you might well be interested to
visit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/
where whp067 (meaning "White Paper" no 67) has just appeared
providing a hell lot of the infos regarding the impacts BPL (or PLT
or PLC as it is called in Europe) does have on HF reception in a
typcal suburban or downtown area. The above web site also provides a
bulk of audio files taken within such an area where BPL was / is in
use. While the experiments were made using HF broadcast band
reception (with those really big signals there...) it is all to easy
and obvious what that would mean for any ham band reception ( you can
bet it's gonna be damn worse...)
Also, I put some files (both audio and video ones) on my web site at
http://www.qsl.net/dl5qe
regarding BPL (PLC, PLT) interferences.
The (British) Radiocommunacations Agency has a report on PLT measurements
made at Crieff at:
http://www.radio.gov.uk/topics/research/topics/emc/edcrie_2.pdf
(thanks to G0CLV for the above)
73 es tnx for your anti-BPL efforts
Jim, N2EY
shephed
The only reason Capt. Carl is "lobbying" is for his loyal Freeband minions.
WA8ULX
>
Capt Karl just hates to see his CBplussers loose out. He knows his constant
complaining to the FCC has let them sneak this end. While Karl and his
CBplusser Buddies, have been diverting the attention to giving all his
CBplussers buddies a FREE RIDE.
I think what really makes Karl upset is the fact that he now knows he has been
used by the FCC. The FCC played Karl like a fiddle.
Come on BPL let me be the first customer.
THANK GOD FOR BPL.. How about us starting a "No-Code BPL Group"?
Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
>> did you file comments, Bruce?
>>
>
>No I dont care
Why does that not surprise me one bit?
73 DE John, KC2HMZ
Tonawanda, New York
Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
> Well there it is folks, Karl the Nut is going to save Ham Radio. Just think
>Karl is going to put these Billion dollar companies in there place. Lets all
>bow to Karl the Nut for saving Ham Radio.
Well, Carl just told us what he's doing to work against the threat of
BPL. Now, what are YOU doing, Bruce? Anything at all? Or are you too
busy typing "CBplusser" into what passes for an NNTP client on AOL
interface to the newsgroups to be bothered addressing anything that's
actually important to the future of ham radio?
Your personal attack on Carl is really pathetic. Next time you decide
to bite someone's head off like that, at least swallow, that way
you'll have more brains in your stomach than you seem to have inside
of your head.
Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
> We you say we, I hope you are referring to your CBplusser Buddies, because you
>sure dont speak for REAL HAMS.
At least he can come up with an intelligent comment, rather than
resorting to nothing more than insults and personal attacks like a
certain guy in Covington, LA.
Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
>>The only reason Capt. Carl is "lobbying" is for his loyal Freeband minions.
And what are you lobbying for? Anything in particular? Or are you like
the other trolls on AOL and just get off on being able to insult
people without getting a punch in the nose?
> Capt Karl just hates to see his CBplussers loose
Do you mean "lose" maybe?
>out. He knows his constant
>complaining to the FCC has let them sneak this end.
Do you mean "sneak this in" or are you talking about football now
instead of ham radio?
>While Karl and his
>CBplusser Buddies, have been diverting the attention to giving all his
>CBplussers buddies a FREE RIDE.
If so, you fell for it big time, didn't you?
P.T. Barnum was right, there's a sucker born every minute.
> I think what really makes Karl upset is the fact that he now knows he has been
>used by the FCC. The FCC played Karl like a fiddle.
> Come on BPL let me be the first customer.
You'd sign up in a heartbeat, too, I'm sure. After all, you signed up
for AOL...
> THANK GOD FOR BPL.. How about us starting a "No-Code BPL Group"?
Go ahead, Bruce, start one. You can be the President, CEO, chief cook
and bottlewasher, and primary spokesperson of the largest ham radio
organization in support of BPL in the entire world! Why, with your
writing skills and well-demonstarted talent for public relations,
there's no doubt in my mind that you'll manage to get BPL accorded
every bit of the acclaim it so richly deserves.
Don't forget to start a BPL conference on AOL while you're at it,
Bruce - I'm sure the pre-pubescent chatroom dwellers on AOL will grow
up at a severe disadvantage unless they have you around to lead them,
and to teach them proper spelling and grammar skills, too.
In fact, you're a shining example of the finest that ham radio has to
offer, Bruce. I'm sure everyone who reads your posts to this newsgroup
is inspired to go out and get a ham ticket just on the off chance that
someday they might be able to put your call in their logbook. If
you're an ARRL member, perhaps you should run for section manager next
time around. I'm sure the ranks of ARRL members in your section will
swell to unprecedented numbers with your leadership.
In the seven years I've been on Usenet before now, I have only
killfiled two persons. Congratulations on being the third.
WA8ULX
>
Your right, its called NCI members
>You'd sign up in a heartbeat, too, I'm sure. After all, you signed up
>for AOL...
Damn straight I would be the first if I could be.
>In fact, you're a shining example of the finest that ham radio has to
>offer, Bruce. I'm sure everyone who reads your posts to this newsgroup
>is inspired to go out and get a ham ticket
I hope they dont
>In the seven years I've been on Usenet before now, I have only
>killfiled two persons. Congratulations on being the third.
>
>73 DE John, KC2HMZ
Thank you sissy boy, but thats like most of you Sissy Boys, when you cant
handle the truth you run and hide.
WA8ULX
Nothing Im all for BPL, they dont need my help they can do it all by
themselves.
WA8ULX
>
>
>73 DE John, KC2HMZ
>Tonawanda, New York
Because I think BPL is a good thing.
Carl R. Stevenson
"Radio Amateur KC2HMZ" <kc2...@aa-mail.removespamkiller.net> wrote in
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ROTFLMAO!
Carl - wk3c