Thank You,
Bob Hill
---Steve
Could you provide the numbers of people on the mailing list. It will help show
this is justified (having seen this earlier, I believe the list is >100 but you
need to provide some numbers).
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Richard H. Miller Email: ri...@bcm.tmc.edu
Asst. Dir. for Technical Support Voice: (713)798-3532
Baylor College of Medicine US Mail: One Baylor Plaza, 302H
Houston, Texas 77030
> I would like to start a Request for Discussion to create a new group,
> rec.gardens.orchids.
My two cents worth: YES!
Reasoning:
1. Many casual gardeners, around the world, either 'try' orchids or are
thinking about it. These are not the type to probably subscribe to the
mail list.
2. Speaking of the mail list, I finally got on it. I tried in July 93 but
some server somewhere was down and the mail couldn't get through. Never
had trouble getting USENET news.
3. If possible, international readers of USENET, especially those from
lands where most of our cultivated varieties originate, could add
horticultural value to those of us living where orchids don't grow.
Just some thoughts,
Dan
Rob
I think this is a very good idea. I'm also on the orchid net, but this
newsgroup will be helpful.
Roy Eblen,Ph.D.
ebl...@uni.edu
Bob,
I support for RFD and would definitely subscribe.
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John Mather, Greenhouse Manager
Department of Horticulture
University of Wisconsin
I agree wholeheartedly with the need for an orchid group. I subscribed to
the orchid mailserver just one week ago, and I have alredy seen postings
from about five new subscribers. If this was an average week, the mail
server must be becoming unweildy.
Nick
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: Richard H. Miller Email: ri...@bcm.tmc.edu
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: Baylor College of Medicine US Mail: One Baylor Plaza, 302H
: Houston, Texas 77030
Richard,
Although I can't find the exact letter dealing with the number of
subscribers to the mailing list, I believe that it is now 400+. If I find
the exact number I will post it. Needless to say, the mailing list is
getting a little crowded and we could use a news group. In addition,
since I have never seen a flame on the mailing list, I believe that the
signal to noise ratio on rec.gardens.orchids would be high.
Thanks for your consideration.
Alan Lehman
alle...@ucdavis.edu
just my thoughts...
Derek
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Don't worry about exact numbers..the 400+ is enough and is what I was looking
for you to post. I knew it was a large number and was looking for a
confirmation. Your proposal has my support.
>Bob,
Ditto, here. I am no horticulturist, nor an expert orchid grower but
I'll tap in and see what experts have to say.
Guan-Hsong Hsu
Nonlinear Dynamics Group
Information Sciences and Systems Branch (B44)
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dalhgren Division,
10901 New Hampshire Avenue,
Silver Spring, MD 20903-5640, USA
Tel: (301)394-5289, 394-5290
Email: gh...@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Fax: (301)394-4657
: Thank You,
: Bob Hill
I am in support of this group. A yes vote on my part can be counted on. I
shall look for the CFV in a few weeks.
Newsgroups line:
rec.gardens.orchids Growing, hybridizing, and general care of orchids.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <ORC...@SCUACC.SCU.EDU>.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Bob Hill <rober...@amd.com>.
CHARTER
This group is designed to allow orchid hobbyists to discuss orchid
types, cultivation and propagation techniques, and orchid
events. Questions ranging from very simple (what is an orchid?) to
very complex and scientific are welcomed. Discussion should be limited
to orchids, with discussion of bromeliads and other epiphytes also
acceptable. Orchid growing areas (greenhouses, outdoor conditions) are
also an acceptable topic of discussion.
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Send MAIL to: vot...@qualcomm.com
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Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.gardens.orchids
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It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
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CHARTER
HOW TO VOTE
rec.gardens.orchids Bounce List - No need to revote
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No bounced votes at this time
There were 219 YES votes and 31 NO votes, for a total of 250 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains and 1 invalid ballot.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
rec.gardens.orchids Growing, hybridizing, and general care of orchids.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Bob Hill <rober...@amd.com>.
CHARTER
This group is designed to allow orchid hobbyists to discuss orchid
types, cultivation and propagation techniques, and orchid
events. Questions ranging from very simple (what is an orchid?) to
very complex and scientific are welcomed. Discussion should be limited
to orchids, with discussion of bromeliads and other epiphytes also
acceptable. Orchid growing areas (greenhouses, outdoor conditions) are
also an acceptable topic of discussion.
rec.gardens.orchids Final Vote Ack
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interested in receiving email about the subject of the vote, and some
may react rather violently and try to get your account pulled.
Voted Yes
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cjac...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Chris "ASCII Console Monster Man" Jackson
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