I just can't be bothered anymore......
Will
I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring git without knowing it..
I just can't seem to be arsed to go out and take several pills to keep going all night anymore.
It makes me sad to admit it, because I've had *so* many good times over the past 5 years, but it
doesn't seem the same anymore. I can't get the enthusiasm together - I don't want to do too many more drugs
because I know how I'll feel the next day and I don't think it's worth it. But I used to *love* that feeling - that
cabbaged Sunday feeling when you've done so many bongs you just can't string a sentence together and
you laugh and laugh and laugh...
I'm not the only one, as most of my mates feel the same way. We're in the autumn of our drug-taking years
and it's depressing as f**k. I wanna be young again. I'm 22 going on 42 - next stop: Marriage, mortage, kids,
death.
When I do go out clubbing, even if I am off it I look around at other people and just think it's all just a bit false.
All those endless hours of talking shite - What's your name, where'd you live, whaddya do, what's your name, where'd
you live, whaddya do, what are ya on, how ya doin.... Can I remember any of it? Would it make any difference if I could??
Oh, dear. What I am going to do with myself???
I just want to have as much fun as I used to. Is it me that's changed, or is it everyone else?
Take care out there, you die-hard nutters. I wish I was still one of you.
Willy
ps. What the hell has happened to happy hardcore? It's crap, it really is. It's like techno with extra cheese without the musicality.
Listen to me, I can't even appreciate modern music anymore! Mind you, I'm still a junglist to the core so it's not all doom and gloom.
Jim Cheese
Well try living for the moment don't think about tomorrow at the time.
Those moments on the floor are simply da best. Don't analyse just do!
Take a break of one month. Buy some psychedelic trance and find the
hidden depths to the music. Come to a psychedelic trance night leave out
the e and try 'cid. Experience what brain food music can do not hands in
the air bang, bang, hard, hard predictable stuff. With cid the next day
is just great.
Don't go out every week only one per 3/4 weeks.
That is Jim Cheeses advice.
See you at the next pssubliminal psychedelia in December? hope so!
plur Mark_H
John Graham
In article <1996Oct28.1...@ucl.ac.uk>, uce...@ucl.ac.uk says...
>
>I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring
git without knowing it..
>
Take a break for a few weeks. Try a different style of gig. Concentrate on the
music. Ease up on yourself, it'll be ok.
John
(44 going on 24)
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Phil Torr
In article <1996Oct28.1...@ucl.ac.uk>, Will <uce...@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring git without knowing it..
>
>
well at 30 and having been going out for all my life I say this:
you can't do the same thing repeatedly without getting bored, variety
is the spice of life, travel, take up some sport etc.
don't expect to do the same thing forever---when I first started going
out it was all heavy metal and I would never have dreamed that I would
be listening to "that disco shite".
Actually I find that I get less enthused about raving during the
winter, there is something nice at being at a big outdoor rave like
Exodus as the hot summer sun rises....and the jungle is turned up and up!
But is senseless to speak like you are old when you are 22, plenty of time
to do that when you *are* old! Enjoy life, it is over soon enough!
hope that helps ;-)
Phil
Dan Kings
uce...@ucl.ac.uk (Will) wrote:
>I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring git without knowing it..
hmmm, I think I can relate to how your feeling, I went through a
period about a year ago when I stoped 'enjoying' myself, I don't mean
I was having a bad time, the actual nights were realy good, but it
just didn't feel the same....I dunno...it's a very strange feeling,
feeling like I could touch heaven, and at the same time doubting what
I was feeling. There was always that nagging feeling...god what am I
going to do on monday, I can't go home in this state, is everyone
being freindly because they're off their faces, am I being friendly
cos I'm off my face?.......it's a weird state to be in. Then one day I
went to a club completely straight, the paranoia had got too much, I
just thought if I bosh a pill I'm going to be laughed at....I went,
and sat, and watched...and realised that I had been totaly wrong, the
people that were off their faces (and also the people that weren't)
looked so wonderful, they moved as one, they understood the music. It
was almost a religious experiance, I realised that the 'vibe' was not
something seperate from the people, it was the people. You end up
using exstacy to put you in that 'vibe' but it doesn't work, you have
to put yourself into it. Exstacy and other mind drugs are an extra not
a nessacity, it is Exstacy that pushes you further, but it's you that
gets you there in the first place.
As Jim says, don't analyse just do :)
Hope you can get that PLUR feeling back :)
Dan. K
Gwynne Reddick
Jim Cheese <mar...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>
>Don't go out every week only one per 3/4 weeks.
>
>That is Jim Cheeses advice.
That's Gwynne's advice. "Twilight of our drug taking years" - Nonsense.
Gwynne
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John Graham
In article <84670455...@merebrk.demon.co.uk>, D...@merebrk.demon.co.uk
says...
>
[stuff]
>was almost a religious experiance, I realised that the 'vibe' was not
>something seperate from the people, it was the people. You end up
>using exstacy to put you in that 'vibe' but it doesn't work, you have
>to put yourself into it. Exstacy and other mind drugs are an extra not
>a nessacity, it is Exstacy that pushes you further, but it's you that
>gets you there in the first place.
>
>As Jim says, don't analyse just do :)
>
> Hope you can get that PLUR feeling back :)
>
> Dan. K
>
Wish I'd said all that :)
Nice one,
John
Dale Walker
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:49:46 GMT, jo...@rave.co.uk (John Graham) wrote:
>In article <1996Oct28.1...@ucl.ac.uk>, uce...@ucl.ac.uk says...
>>
>>I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring
>git without knowing it..
>>
>[snip]
>
>Take a break for a few weeks.
********
>Try a different style of gig.
********
That's what I do if things start seeming to *REAL*. It just takes a
small change of style to make everything seem new and exciting again!
> Concentrate on the
>music. Ease up on yourself, it'll be ok.
>
>John
>(44 going on 24)
Dale
(31 going on 6)
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Joe Public
>When I do go out clubbing, even if I am off it I look around at other people and just think it's all just a bit false.
>All those endless hours of talking shite - What's your name, where'd you live, whaddya do, what's your name, where'd
>you live, whaddya do, what are ya on, how ya doin.... Can I remember any of it? Would it make any difference if I could??
Thank you for speaking the unspeakable.
Most people who do this for any length of time come to the
same conclusion.
I got into this about 18 months ago, and thought that it was a
heavenly experience, and that I was connecting to some mass
conciouness, and that, next to paradise, there could be no better
experience.
Afterclub saw me mixing with people that I had nothing in
common with, many of whom, god bless 'em, could barely string a
sentence together, nevermind contribute to a conversation with any
cerebral content.
I thought I was having a great time.
Three months into this, I was fortunate enough to meet the
only person who has ever made me feel the emotion "love".
She was 18.
Clubbing and drugging together for the next 3 months seemed to
be all there was worth doing, and it was.
Perhaps it is my capacity for excess, but I did not understand
her when she started speaking the way you have. I couldnt
understand why she pleaded with me to restrain my chemical
indulgences, why we had to go and sit in some unfamilar flat with
a group of automations babbling about nothing in its most violent
form.
" What you on? What you taken? All right? Have a good night ?
Was it good? Any pills mate?" shed reel off mockingly.
I didnt quite get it.
Yet hers were the arms Id be blubbering into come Terrible
Tuesday, or Wet Wednesday.
Weve since drifted and she is now 19, and has very little time
for the club thang, as she sees it as facile, irrelevent,
distracting and ultimately boring.
Will, the point is that, to feel the way you do is not a "old"
thing, its the "real" thing.
It took a baby of 18 to teach me that.
>Oh, dear. What I am going to do with myself???
>I just want to have as much fun as I used to. Is it me that's
>changed, or is it everyone else?
>
Depends what you want.
I now know what I want out the club experience, and meeting
interesting people is not one of them. If it happens, great, but
have other expectations, which, while not being the overwhelming
purpose of the night, is certainly a factor in choosing the venue
for the evening.
Im not saying this is a divine fact, but I believe that
clubbing is a single persons activity, 'tho Im sure you know many
couples that still go clubbing. Perhaps its different in the
trance scene, it has to be as there are very few women there
anyway.
Thats my response to recreating the excitement of Clubbing.
Well what else would you expect from me ;).
Peace,
Joe Public
Jim Cheese
Joe Public wrote: snipped
> Im not saying this is a divine fact, but I believe that
> clubbing is a single persons activity, 'tho Im sure you know many
> couples that still go clubbing. Perhaps its different in the
> trance scene, it has to be as there are very few women there
> anyway.
Me and wife Kim always party together, Kim puts me and friends to shame
with her incredible acid intake at times. More often than not we arrive
together but split up and sometimes bump into each other gurning.....at
various points of the night. We have it good I s'pose in that we don't
need to cling on near to each other. In the morning we swop stories about
what happened etc. Kim is able to move freely without fear of dodgey
people cos we inevitably go to trance nights where everyone is concerned
with the experience not sex.
my 2 rupees worth.
Mark_H
Jeff Calvert
In uk.music.rave uce...@ucl.ac.uk (Will) said:
>I just want to have as much fun as I used to. Is it me that's changed, or
is it
>everyone else?
>
>
>Willy
uk that my mates are starting to burn out a bit. caning it every weekend
takes its toll - even getting it together to get to work monday becomes
iffy...
over here in canada where we aren't blessed with wicked stuff to do every
weekend, we generally get it together & screw it on about once a month. at
that frequency, it's a blast. & i've always found that less gear is better
than more (avoids come downs and wasted sundays) & that at home with
freinds is a better place to take pharmecuticals than clubs (even though
clubs can be really great).
good luck.
jeff
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Fred Kruse-Fautsch
Dale Walker <da...@mimir.com> wrote:
>Dale
>
>(31 going on 6)
Does that mean you'll be going through puberty again in 7 years' time?
:)
Fred
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Jeff Calvert
In uk.music.rave D...@merebrk.demon.co.uk (Dan Kings) said:
> it is Exstacy that pushes you further, but it's you that gets you there
in the
>first place.
answer was until now beleived to be 42.
blessings jeff
Steve
In article: <84670455...@merebrk.demon.co.uk> D...@merebrk.demon.co.uk (Dan Kings) writes:
>
> uce...@ucl.ac.uk (Will) wrote:
>
> >I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring git without knowing it..
>
> period about a year ago when I stoped 'enjoying' myself, I don't mean
> I was having a bad time, the actual nights were realy good, but it
> just didn't feel the same....I dunno...it's a very strange feeling,
> feeling like I could touch heaven, and at the same time doubting what
> I was feeling.
I always find it useful to try and connect the things that I experience back to nature. It maybe sounds a bit of a
cliched expression, but it's easy to get disconnected from what's actually real with some of the stuff that happens
in clubs.
This wasn't a problem when parties were mostly outdoors, as all the energy that built up had a direct connection
to the planet. With clubs being artificial environments, it's easy for the energy to build up without having an outlet,
and that seems to be when the doubts and the weirdness can start.
If you do start to doubt whether it's worth it just find a quiet place in the countryside to sit and chill out for a while. It
always helps me to keep things in perspective and gets me looking forward to the next party :-)
plur
Steve
Gregory R. Block
Fred Kruse-Fautsch (f...@ecs.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: Does that mean you'll be going through puberty again in 7 years' time?
Heaven help us all. :)
Greg
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Dale Walker
On 1 Nov 1996 16:04:49 GMT, f...@ecs.ox.ac.uk (Fred Kruse-Fautsch)
wrote:
>
>Dale Walker <da...@mimir.com> wrote:
>
>>Dale
>>
>>(31 going on 6)
>
>Does that mean you'll be going through puberty again in 7 years' time?
Bloody hope not! I don't think I could cope with another round of
vicious mood swings, swollen glands and bits of body that would decide
to spring into action at the most embarrassing moments.
Si
Dale Walker wrote:
> swollen glands and bits of body that would decide
> to spring into action at the most embarrassing moments.
>
One and the same thing!
CATH
Will wrote:
>
> I don't know what's happened to me, but I seem to have turned into a boring git without knowing it..
>
>
> doesn't seem the same anymore. I can't get the enthusiasm together - I don't want to do too many more drugs
> because I know how I'll feel the next day and I don't think it's worth it. But I used to *love* that feeling - that
> cabbaged Sunday feeling when you've done so many bongs you just can't string a sentence together and
> you laugh and laugh and laugh...
>
> I'm not the only one, as most of my mates feel the same way. We're in the autumn of our drug-taking years
> and it's depressing as f**k. I wanna be young again. I'm 22 going on 42 - next stop: Marriage, mortage, kids,
> death.
>
> All those endless hours of talking shite - What's your name, where'd you live, whaddya do, what's your name, where'd
> you live, whaddya do, what are ya on, how ya doin.... Can I remember any of it? Would it make any difference if I could??
>
>
>
> Take care out there, you die-hard nutters. I wish I was still one of you.
>
> Willy
>
OO another retired one!! I know exactly where you're coming from!! Still
try and make the effort once in a while but I reckon my body has taken
nuff abuse & proper hates me now on a Sunday after a night out!! Too
much hassle & all that & where did I used to get the money from to get
trashed every Friday & Saturday???
Wishing I was 15 again.............sad!!!
Gregory R. Block
Si (Simon....@jwt.co.uk) wrote:
: Dale Walker wrote:
You mean that part goes away? :)
PLUR,
Greg
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